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For those how want to know before watching the video, the fighter wings are claw + 3 warthog.

Legions are dope, and have great weapon slots for taking advantage of the current over-tuned weapons! I've always preferred the weapon layout of the normal over the XIV, even though the XIV has better stats, and having medium missiles this version for PCLs is a strong boost.

My "usual" build for Legions is Mjolnir + Mk IX, but between Ordinance Expertise and Tech it really does have the flux to run double Mjolnir! I often don't have the points to have tech on top of my combat skills - especially as you are running industry 5 as well! I'll see if I can get it to work out, but I can put a lot more caps on without needing flux distributor (or even max vents tbh!). I really like armored weapon mounts for the recoil reduction (and armor), but its less needed with gunnery implants.

[Edit] Oh wow the shield arcs from S mod extended shields are really nice there! I should try that on my Onslaught build...

[Second edit] And I know you dislike PD, but I think 2 more of your legions would have lived with even light PD! A single reaper to overload and another to kill for one of them, and shooting down even some of the hammer barrages from the other. It wasn't really a saturation missile attack, just the PCLs being out of ammo not sweeping the sky. (Between ballistic mastery, CR, and S mod ATG, you're already looking at +45% damage to missiles, so even a pair of wing vulcans, leaving the dlacs in place, might have done it!)

Thanks for showing! You could even buff the fleet immediately for yourself by shifting your +officers (unused) into more fighter speed. Not a huge boost, but every bit helps!

Dropping gunnery implants would be such a shame! I might even take the CR hit to keep it! Otoh, if combat endurance is in the build eliting it for the hull regen could be nice (though honestly the ships are strong enough that they don't need it until the end, and at that point the regen speed might be too slow vs radiants, though maybe not!).

Wow, very impressive! I didn't think that you could solo 5 ordos with Legions. Just going off of DP, the Executor / Paragons / Astrals / Invictus were all 60-50 DP. I wonder if this opens the door to other 40-45 DP ships ordo'ing or if the Onslaught lacks the force projection from the fighters and the battlecruisers are too fragile.

I feel like smod advanced gyros on capitals is just so good as to be nearly mandatory.

Onslaught can mount dual LACs + proximity charges and has an XIV version with more OP to play around with, so it has that going for it.

Maybe double autopulse + S-Mags on the Oddy could do some work, but they're just so fragile (slightly more effective shield HP as a Conquest at max cap, otherwise worse) and the 700 range means knife-fighting Radiants. I'm not sure being the fastest (human) capital makes up for that. At least Conquests can run away instead of charging forward and can mount ballistics.

I like sumpf's suggestions, and I was also wondering about EMR since I didn't find it necessary on my AI Legion. It didn't seem like you were in danger of running out of PCLs in the video, but I did skip around a bit. Anyway this would be my take on the Legion in the OP:

Posted a more effective loadout later in the thread

That makes sense but an overfluxed Legion with no caps doesn't have the shield to tank 2+ reapers at will, so PD is still a useful insurance

Dunno about PCL, this is just Legion being Legion
It's naturally good against all types of ships

Except Shades/Afflictors

That Legion XIV looks really good, definitely gonna try that. CapnHector I was wondering how your weapon groups are set up on your Legion?