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Is Quality of Life Actually Increasing?

phattonez

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Often, this question is answered simply with a reference to material wealth. Yes, we are materially far wealthier than any past generation. Outside of arguments of inequality, I don't think this is disputable. However, is this all that determines quality of life? Of course not. So, what about out everyday lives? Are our social interactions getting better, and more peaceful? Well . . .

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True Economics: 10/1/17: Losing Trust and Social Capital: U.S. and Europe

With constant demographics, we've gone from more than 60% saying that people can be generally trusted in the 1970s to today, where only about 20% say so. That's a massive decline. This represents a coarser, more isolated existence devoid of the community engagement that was standard in the past.

Given this, can we quickly make reference to GDP to say that quality of life has increased over the past few decades? I don't think so.
 
Often, this question is answered simply with a reference to material wealth. Yes, we are materially far wealthier than any past generation....However, is this all that determines quality of life? Of course not....we've gone from more than 60% saying that people can be generally trusted in the 1970s to today, where only about 20% say so.

Are you're asserting that quality of life is a function of multiple factors, one of which being trust, but of those factors trust is singularly controlling? It sure seems that way because trust the only factor you've identified as the basis for your assertion about the etiology of decline in life quality, and your OP begins by removing wealth from consideration; moreover, in your conclusion, you expressly reject the role of wealth in the determination of quality of life.

Furthermore, your thesis suffers from multiple material inferential flaws:
  • The paper having the research findings you reference notes in the first sentence of the paper that trust is a component, one "indicator" of what the authors call "social capital," distinguishing it from economic capital (i.e., individual and national/collective wealth, the latter being GDP). "There has been a sharp decline in the extent to which individuals trust one another, and othersocial capital indicators, over the past forty years in the United States"

    In their conclusion, the authors reiterate that they "analyzed the effect of inequality on an individual’s level of trust in others, as wellas various other measures of social capital" and state unequivocally that heir analysis found that "inequality at the bottom of the distribution lowers an individual’ssense of trust in others – in the United States and in Europe."

    You, however, have disregarded those other social capital indicators, not so much as mentioning or alluding to them and their role in determining quality of life.
  • Your claim relies upon not only elevating the germanity of trust as an element of social capital, but also on reversing the etiological relationship between income inequality and trust, which you then use to infer that the decline in trust is causally controlling.

    In their abstract the authors write, "this paper examines whether the downward trend in social capital is responding to the increasing gaps in income. Put another way, the paper examines whether "increasing gaps in income" drive the downward trend in social capital."
  • For the most part, I think most laymen generally assess quality of life in terms of wealth, until they (or a loved one) reach their dotage, at which point they construe quality of life to be controlled far less by wealth and more by physiological and mental capacities. So while most people acknowledge a diminution in their ability to trust others, I think that it does not follow from that observation that trust is the controlling determinant of quality of life.
Given the above, I'm not at all inclined to accept your thesis/conclusion that we cannot "make reference to GDP to say that quality of life has increased over the past few decades." Indeed, to the extent your thesis relies on Gould and Hijzen's findings, they are completely unfounded, save for on your own abductive reasoning.
 
Are you're asserting that quality of life is a function of multiple factors, one of which being trust, but of those factors trust is singularly controlling?

I would argue that trust is more important than material wealth, that community and social interactions matter more to quality of life than things.

It sure seems that way because trust the only factor you've identified as the basis for your assertion about the etiology of decline in life quality, and your OP begins by removing wealth from consideration; moreover, in your conclusion, you expressly reject the role of wealth in the determination of quality of life.

I'm of accord with Aristotle on this issue: "The life of money-making is one undertaken under compulsion, and wealth is evidently not the good we are seeking; for it is merely useful and for the sake of something else."

You, however, have disregarded those other social capital indicators, not so much as mentioning or alluding to them and their role in determining quality of life.

Because they've all gone down, or are you not aware of Robert Putnam's work in this field?
 
I must respond to you in multiple posts due to the character limits.

Yes I am.

I am astounded that you have the "woody" you do....

Where did you get your Asian data? How is social trust measured?
Read the paper. This is data collected by Robert Putnam, who is no conservative.

.... for Bowling Alone. While the book is entertaining, perhaps bias affirming, it's hardly probative.

Okay, Padre (I presume by your signature that you're a Jesuit)....

Introduction:
Social capital theory departs heterodoxically from the social science analytical model of focusing on how individuals make purposeful, self-interest choices to understanding how social norms and social structures emerge and determine individual behaviors, aiming to treated as a “missing link” in explaining why different communities and even societies succeed or fail. Among social capital authors, Putnam has been perhaps the most vigorous advocate of the its paradigm, asserting that a substantial component of fluctuations for phenomena ranging from voting to crime to philanthropy derives from changes in the stock of social capital. In Bowling Alone Putnam expands that notion, expressed initially in "The Strange Disappearance of Civic America," to the whole of modern American culture.

Putnam's treatise compellingly animates emotional assent with the claim that Americans, in the past jubilee, have withdrawn progressively from voluntary involvement in social organizations. Despite exhaustive documentation of this trend, Putnam's effort to amplify upon it suffers from a lack of rigor and analytical gravitas by dint of his failure, perhaps because he sought to obtain popular accessibility for his ideas, to subject his musings to a careful analysis of their causes or their outcomes. Consequently, his book (thus the ideas in it) exists not as a scholarly exposition of existential trends but as a "feel good" affirmation of a host of ill conceived notions posited by a disaffected polity craving cocktail-party explanations for the seeming increase in disturbing (to them) behaviors they observe.

The specific lacunae of rigor in Bowling Alone's 500+ pages include conceptual vagueness/ambiguity, etiology, consequentiality, incompleteness, insubstantiveness as a guide to policy making. The book, like the rest of social capital literature, is entertaining, but nothing more.

Conceptualvagueness/ambiguity:
The book lacks clarity on what constitutes social capital. It is inconsistent in the various substantive definitions of social capital which appear in various places in the book. For example, Putnamopens stating "social capital refers to connections among individuals—social networks and the norms of reciprocity and trustworthiness that arise from them." (p. 19) Later, he equates social capital to labor market connections (p. 319 - 322), yet he supports that definition citing studies that depict those networks as information flow conduits devoid of reciprocity or trust. In other words, Putnam ignores the context of the research he cites. Just a few pages later, Putnam asserts, "Fraternity, as the French democrats intended it, was another name for what I term “social capital.” (French notion of fraternity, eh? Girondist or Jacobin?)

Reciprocity and trust, taken together, differ materially from information flows. From the perspective of economic modeling, one obvious reason for this difference is that behaviors undertaken due to reciprocal altruism, trust, or some other formulation can only be understood as the volitional decisions of purposeful actors. Information flows on the other hand, require no such understanding.While one may model norms and information using networks of some stripe, doingso does not make phenomena be natural behaviors.

(continued...)
 
Part II of III (Continued from post #6)

In Bowling Alone, social capital is defined functionally: when social groups exhibit “good behaviors,” social capital is present. This functional definition unsatisfactory and that is is can been seen in Putnam’s discussions of types of social capital. Putnam distinguishes between bridging social capital, which builds links between groups and bonding social capital, which solidifies links within groups. Notice that this is not a natural dichotomy, for one would expect various forms of social networks to concurrently do both. To wit, consider national identity. Identification with one’s country, and the attendant loyalties it induces towards other citizens, can act to bridge different ethnic groups within a country and bond citizens to foment hostility to foreigners. Does national identity, then, increase or decrease a country’s stock of social capital? Putnam's theory of social capital, as expressed in Bowling Alone, is quiescently vague/ambiguous in response to that question. (Putnam is not alone among social capital theorists; the discipline's thought routinely deviates from the use of constructor definitions of individual and societal comportment.)

This vagueness contrasts with economics' approach to studying social interactions, one of which is game theory. For example, the basic ideas behind the Folk theorem come down to the recognition that in repeated interactions, cooperation is possible; Binmore’s description is particularly apt for this context.
... all interesting outcomes in the cooperative region of a one-shot game are also available as equilibria in an indefinitely repeated version of the game. (p. 265) ... for indefinitely repeated games, the Folk theorem, tells us that we do not need to rely on anything but the enlightened self-interest of sufficiently forward-looking players to maintain the full panoply of cooperative possibilities. (p. 293)
The basic intuition underlying the Folk theorem is that if individuals are punished in the future for presently acting uncollaboratively, then cooperation can be sustained over time. In "Social Norms and Community Enforcement," Kandori shows how this idea can be generalized to approximate a social norm whereof each group member punishes noncooperative behavior, even when he has not directly suffered from it. This shows how the idea of social sanctions can be formalized.

From the perspective of Bowling Alone, the Folk theorem has two implications. First, it illustrates that it is possible to supplement the text's casual theorizing of the book with a more rigorous and coherent alternative. Second, it suggests that in equating social capital with reciprocity and trust, Putnam conflates disparate concepts. The cooperative behavior which can occur in repeated games is consistent with the narrowest form of one's economic decision making process in that cooperative behavior derives from self-interest defined with respect to standard notions of utility. In this respect, one can think of the Folk theorem as describing the emergence of a form of generalized reciprocity among selfish agents.

Etiology:
Bowling Alone lacks a well-delineated theory about the relationship between the underlying social norms which embody social capital, and the various activities which the book alleges signal its presence or absence. This omission reflects Putnam’s lack of attention to the nature of individual decision-making. An understanding of purposeful behaviors such as voting or the decision to join the Elks, requires an explicit formulation of the constraints, preferences, and beliefs that determine an individual’s choice. This choice-based perspective can then be used to ask how individuals are influenced by the choices of others or by the past behaviors of a given individual. Without going through this type of analytical exercise, one cannot develop a satisfactory causal theory of the relationship between social capital and observed behavioral patterns.
 
Part II of III (Continued from post #7)

To illustrate how a choice-based perspective alters the interpretation of evidence, Putnam describes the large decline in membership for the Roanoke chapter of the NAACP. One can imagine many possible explanations that have nothing to do with social capital per se. To wit:

  • If the issues facing the NAACP were less significant in 1990 than 1960, one would expect a large reduction in membership solely from this fact. Certainly, the elimination of de jure segregation laws is on a different moral level than the issue of affirmative action.
  • Another reason might be the increase in economic opportunities for African Americans; as Putnam recognizes, participation in organizations takes time, so trade-offs will occur. Again, this shift is consistent with a constant “stock” of social capital in the Roanoke community
Furthermore, Putnam’s analysis focuses almost exclusively on a search for large exogenous events such as television or the passing of the World War II generation. This approach, however, fails to account for the ways in which trust in a society is an endogenous outcome of social relations. Again, drawing on analogies from economic theory, a complete theory of trust requires an explanation of how trustworthy behavior and trusting attitudes coevolve; a natural way of doing this would be to posit a learning dynamic in which encounters with trustworthy behavior lead to trusting attitudes, and vice versa. One could then explore, using standard ideas from the theories of learning and rational expectations, conditions under which self-consistent levels of trust and trustworthiness emerge.

The modern economic literature on complementarities (see also: Coordination Games) makes clear how such feedbacks alter the way one thinks about causal analysis. Suppose that at some time T the level of trust in a society depends on a set of exogenous factors as well as the level of trustworthiness that existed at T −1. In this case, there can exist large social multipliers whereby a small change in the exogenous factors induces large changes in the steady state trust level. In an extreme version of this type of relationship, multiple trust level equilibria can exist. From this perspective, large differences in the levels of societal trust can exist for small differences in the exogenous factors. (The case of multiple equilibria, there can in principle be shifts across these equilibria. This would allow for changes in the level of societal trust without any of the sorts of exogenous changes that Putnam discusses.) Nothing in Bowling Alone addresses the possibility that the large changes documented reflect these feedback effects rather than large exogenous changes per se.

This absence of any well-developed endogenous mechanisms for social capital formation highlights a curious gap in the exhaustive empirical analysis of Bowling Alone. While there is extensive discussion of the time trends for various social capital measures, there is very little discussion of why cross-section variations in social capital exist. To be fair, there is some discussion of the role of social isolation in explaining the lack of labor market connections of the poor, but for a phenomenon such as state-level differences, no explanation is given.
 
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