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An overheating Shadow Hawk's punch becomes a headcapper by design. Easily-achievable heat neutrality was a problem.
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Orders are in. Running to 1811 and firing on the GS, with a token LRM at the fleeing Wulfen, to hopefully encourage it to keep running. Contingency fire on the Hel.
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Xarbala posted:I think he goes by Xabungle Thanks Xabungle 
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OniPanda posted:Thanks Xabungle Thanks Xarbama. 
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Zaodai posted:Thanks Xarbama. Come back to us Xarbama! I made you muffins!
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whoever this mystery man is he sounds very handsome
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He frequently posts pretty pictures he drew also!
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He and Leperfish are pals
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Strangely despite being familiar with said fellow from many other threads I have never seen his artwork. Thanks Xarbama.
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Hexenritter posted:Strangely despite being familiar with said fellow from many other threads I have never seen his artwork. Thanks Xarbama.  Xarbala's responsible for my PC Desktop background. Orders are due Saturday night, for the one player who didn't get them in before Wednesday. I hope all the Americans in the thread had a safe 4th. Now that my company's gone we're back to business as usual.
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PoptartsNinja posted:
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Typo, sorry. I meant Raiden.
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Him and me both. e: It's crazy to think I'm in the center of PTN's desktop wallpaper Defiance Industries fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Jul 7, 2018 |
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That is some hrrrngh inducingly good art
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Hexenritter posted:That is some hrrrngh inducingly good art That's ROLLING THUNDER, BAY-BAY!!!
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What mechs are there exactly on that picture? I can recognize the Orion and Awesome, but the two leftmost ones elude me.
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Armar posted:What mechs are there exactly on that picture? I can recognize the Orion and Awesome, but the two leftmost ones elude me.
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:I think the leftmost is an Assassin, but I am not sure. For the other one, I cannot think of any mechs with JJs and a Right Arm mounted PPC, but I am rusty. It's an Ost of some kind. The jumper is a Gladiator.
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Strobe posted:It's an Ost of some kind. The jumper is a Gladiator. Looking up the mission in question, it was an Ostroc. Link to beginning of said mission:https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3383329&pagenumber=462#post397265943
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I much prefer Xarb's Ostroc to the "terrible pseudo-battlepod" version that's traditional. I don't think there's any question why of all the Unseen, the Ost- series is the one no one remembers...or wants to remember.
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jng2058 posted:I much prefer Xarb's Ostroc to the "terrible pseudo-battlepod" version that's traditional. I don't think there's any question why of all the Unseen, the Ost- series is the one no one remembers...or wants to remember. I remember them as annoying as gently caress to tell apart. They're all identical, so I could never remember if I should be worried about the heavy with a bunch of lasers or ignore some pissant scout mech.
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jng2058 posted:I much prefer Xarb's Ostroc to the "terrible pseudo-battlepod" version that's traditional. I don't think there's any question why of all the Unseen, the Ost- series is the one no one remembers...or wants to remember. The Ost series - Not Unseen, just Unwanted.
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The reseen versions were the one time I never heard a single person bitch about the art. Yes, someone complained about the new Griffin and P-Hawk.
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The Ostsol was the best 60 tonner in 3025 play, which isn't saying much, but it owed that distinction to fully committing to the laser gimmick. It's probably the Ost- people most remember. The Ostroc's the one everyone forgets, but it (and the Quickdraw) make for decent heavy mooks in a campaign since they're not that threatening and tend to explode. The Ostscout's actually been redesigned twice, the latest version's really good. It's the Ost- people are next most likely to remember, probably for all the times they misused it and it died instantly but possibly for that one time their jerk of an opponent used it and it was an invincible spotter for indirect LRM attacks. Seriously the Ostscout's really good.  The Ostwar wasn't introduced until 3076 (even though it's older than the others by far) so nobody knows it exists.
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It's worth noting that once you get to the pre-Jihad/early Jihad era, all three of the original Osts all get insane variants. The Ostroc remains the least impressive of the bunch, but the c3i Ostscouts and the TSM Ostsols are really, really good. The Ostsol-6D might actually be my favorite non-jumpjet mech of all time, with the Excalibur-CS the only other real contender for that title. And the upgraded Ostscouts take "insane indirect fire spotter" up a few notches to "my entire network will fire at short range forever and there is nothing you can ever do about it."
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Weird as they are the Ostmechs are leagues ahead of their contemporaries. They're only "bad" because A) the heavies are on the low end of their weight class but compared to the other 60 tonners they're pretty great; and B) the Ostscout got derided once in fiction by an idiot because it can't do a thing an honest-to-god scout shouldn't be doing anyway: dueling with other 'Mechs. Not bad considering the whole series is almost certainly named the way it is because someone thought the Macross battle pods looked like Ostriches. PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Jul 7, 2018 |
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PoptartsNinja posted:Weird as they are the Ostmechs are leagues ahead of their contemporaries. They're only "bad" because Wasn't B where it was part of a command lance, and the commander not only knew that it should be in the back keeping an eye out for ambushes and the like but when they were attacked knew enough to have him hide behind the heavies because it was way too valuable to risk in heavy combat? Or was there a different time? I've been rereading the novels for some unknown reason, and I remember that happening in one of the earlier novels but I can't remember which one.
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seaborgium posted:I've been rereading the novels for some unknown reason, and I remember that happening in one of the earlier novels but I can't remember which one. Wolves on the border, it was being escorted by Panthers and possibly a Jenner and never once used its Jump Jets. Dechan Frasier mocked it but made it his primary target anyway because Suffer Not a TAG to Live in 3025 play.
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"It was being escorted by Panthers and possibly a Jenner" is boilerplate text from every LIC report on Combine targets ever written, btw
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Arent they meant to somehow be based off the Macross battlepods? Allegedly. I can maybe believe that if I squint
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Synthbuttrange posted:Arent they meant to somehow be based off the Macross battlepods? Allegedly. I can maybe believe that if I squint That's why they were brought back, you really can't tell what the gently caress they're supposed to be.
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PoptartsNinja posted:Wolves on the border, it was being escorted by Panthers and possibly a Jenner and never once used its Jump Jets. Dechan Frasier mocked it but made it his primary target anyway because Suffer Not a TAG to Live in 3025 play. I thought it was part of the Dragoon forces and Tetsuhara disabled it in his opening salvo? Gatlin was the pilot.
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You could be right, I vaguely remember it being Kuritan but the combat scenes in Wolves on the Border were a little rough around the edges (see also: any time the Bounty Hunter was mentioned).
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White Sands 7 “It looks like a komainu. Are those the Smoke Jaguars?” “I don’t think so. Symbol’s all wrong. Assuming they haven’t changed it,” Hiro admitted. He’d gotten a clear enough view of the Clan symbol. It might’ve been a unit marking, but he didn’t think so. It was too prominently displayed, too central, and the machines had born no other markings. The Clans were growing increasingly cautious about revealing information that would let the Inner Sphere easily track their troop rotations, but they were still prideful. They generally wanted their enemies to know who’d beaten them, even if they didn’t know precisely which unit had done the deed. “Head in the fight, princess,” Koralia shook Hiro out of his musing. Almost casually, he raised his Shadow Hawk’s right arm and shot the charging Clan light ‘Mech in the chest. Impacts from its machine guns kicked up a shower of sand around the legs of Koralia’s Ryujo, but even the guns fell silent as the caress of Shiro’s high-powered energy beam cut the little scout ‘Mech cleanly in half. “Princess,” Bonsai cackled. “Motion to change the Lieutenant’s callsign.” “Seconded,” the other two chimed in nearly in unison. They were in good spirits, at least. It may have been their first outing as a lance, but they were working together like they’d been doing it for years. Hiro uttered a dramatic sigh, and rewarded them with a frustrated-sounding “God drat it!”    Shooting Phase Shadow Hawk (Player) - Torso-twists to threaten hex 1609! - Fires Autocannon/5 (Ultra, HE) at Red Piranha ([3] base + 0 range + 3 movement + [2] enemy movement = 8): rolled 6, miss! - Fires Medium Laser at Red Piranha ([3] base + 0 range + 3 movement + [2] enemy movement - 1 laser = 7): rolled 9, hit Center Torso (0/3 structure remaining)! ’Mech destroyed! - Fires LRM-1 at Hel Prime ([3] base + 2 range + 3 movement + [2] enemy movement + 1 secondary target = 11): rolled 10, miss! - Gains 16 heat, sinks 13! Shiro (Player) - Fires LRM-4 (Standard) at Grand Summoner Prime ([3] base + 0 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement = 6): rolled 10, rolled (5 + 0 ECM = 5): 2 missiles hit Left Arm (17/22 armor remaining), Right Leg (22/27 armor remaining)! - Fires LRM-4 (Standard) at Grand Summoner Prime ([3] base + 0 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement = 6): rolled 8, rolled (7+ 0 ECM = 7): 3 missiles hit Head (4/9 armor remaining (Pilot hit!)), Left Arm (12/22 armor remaining), Left Leg (22/27 armor remaining)! - Gains 12 heat, sinks 11! Ryujo (Player) - Fires Autocannon/5 (Ultra, AP) at Grand Summoner Prime ([3] base + 0 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 partial cover = 7): rolled 9, rolled 6: 1 shell hit Left Leg (damage blocked)! - Fires LRM-2 (Standard) at Grand Summoner Prime ([3] base + 0 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 partial cover + 2 minimum range = 9): rolled 7, miss! - Secondary target already destroyed! - Gains 8 heat, sinks 13! Daikyu (Player) - Torso-twists to threaten hex 1810! - Fires Autocannon/5 (Ultra, AP) at Grand Summoner Prime ([3] base + 0 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 partial cover - 1 accurate weapon = 6): rolled 10, rolled 11: 2 shells hit Right Leg (damage blocked), Left Torso (17/22 armor remaining)! - Fires Autocannon/5 (Ultra, AP) at Grand Summoner Prime ([3] base + 0 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 partial cover - 1 accurate weapon = 6): rolled 8, rolled 7: 1 shell hits Right Torso (12/22 armor remaining)! - Fires Light PPC at Grand Summoner Prime ([3] base + 0 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 partial cover + 1 minimum range = 8): rolled 10, hit Right Leg (damage blocked)! - Fires Light PPC at Grand Summoner Prime ([3] base + 0 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 partial cover + 1 minimum range = 8): rolled 8, hit Right Arm (17/22 armor remaining)! - Fires LRM-1 at Wulfen C: No Line of Sight to secondary target! - Gains 17 heat, sinks 16! Grand Summoner Prime - Fires Autocannon/5 (Ultra, AP) at Daikyu (4 base + 0 range + 1 movement + 2 enemy movement = 7): rolled 5, miss! - Fires Autocannon/5 (Ultra, AP) at Daikyu (4 base + 0 range + 1 movement + 2 enemy movement = 7): rolled 7, rolled 6: 1 shell hit Right Arm (14/19 armor remaining)! - Fires ATM-9 (HE) at Daikyu (4 base + 0 range + 1 movement + 2 enemy movement = 7): rolled 8, rolled 9: 7 missiles hit Left Torso (15/20 armor remaining), Right Leg (21/26 armor remaining), Center Torso (22/27 armor remaining), Right Leg (16/26 armor remaining), Right Leg (15/26 armor remaining)! - Fires Small Heavy Laser at Daikyu (4 base + 0 range + 1 movement + 2 enemy movement - 1 laser = 6): rolled 5, miss! - Fires Small Heavy Laser at Daikyu (4 base + 0 range + 1 movement + 2 enemy movement - 1 laser = 6): rolled 9, hit Right Leg (10/26 armor remaining)! - Fires Machine Gun at Daikyu (4 base + 0 range + 1 movement + 2 enemy movement = 7): rolled 11, hit Right Arm (11/19 armor remaining)! - Fires Machine Gun at Daikyu (4 base + 0 range + 1 movement + 2 enemy movement = 7): rolled 4, miss! - Gains 20 heat, sinks 10! Overheating! Hel Prime - Torso-twists to threaten hex 1404! - Fires Gauss Rifle at Shadow Hawk (4 base + 2 range + 0 movement + 3 enemy movement = 9): rolled 4, miss! - Fires Gauss Rifle at Shadow Hawk (4 base + 2 range + 0 movement + 3 enemy movement = 9): rolled 7, miss! - Fires Medium Heavy Laser at Shadow Hawk (4 base + 2 range + 0 movement + 3 enemy movement - 1 laser = 8): rolled 8, hit Right Leg (13/16 armor remaining)! - Gains 9 heat, sinks 10! Wulfen Prime - Torso-twists to threaten hex 0509! - Fires Autocannon/2 (Ultra, HE) at Shiro (4 base + 2 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement = 9): rolled 7, miss! - Gains 2 heat, sinks 10! Wulfen C - Holds fire! - Gains 12 heat, sinks 14! Red Piranha - Fires Machine Gun at Ryujo (4 base + 2 range + 2 movement + 3 enemy movement = 10): rolled 11, hit Right Leg (19/22 armor remaining)! - Fires Machine Gun at Ryujo (4 base + 2 range + 2 movement + 3 enemy movement = 10): rolled 4, miss! - Fires Machine Gun at Ryujo (4 base + 2 range + 2 movement + 3 enemy movement = 10): rolled 4, miss! - Fires Machine Gun at Ryujo (4 base + 2 range + 2 movement + 3 enemy movement = 10): rolled 8, miss! - Fires Machine Gun at Ryujo (4 base + 2 range + 2 movement + 3 enemy movement = 10): rolled 7, miss! - Fires Machine Gun at Ryujo (4 base + 2 range + 2 movement + 3 enemy movement = 10): rolled 3, miss! - Gains 2 heat, sinks 10! End Phase: Grand Summoner Prime - Must pass a 3+ consciousness test: rolled 7, succeeds! - Must pass a piloting test or fall (4 base + 1 massive damage = 5): rolled 6, succeeds! Physical Combat Phase: Shadow Hawk (Player) - Kicks Grand Summoner Prime (4 base + 3 movement + 1 enemy movement - 1 battle fists = 7): rolled 9, hit Center Torso (21/32 armor remaining)! - Fires SRM-2 at Grand Summoner Prime (4 base + 3 movement + 1 enemy movement - 1 point blank attack = 7): rolled 7, rolled 4: 1 missile hits Left Arm (10/22 armor remaining)! - Fires SRM-2 at Grand Summoner Prime (4 base + 3 movement + 1 enemy movement - 1 point blank attack = 7): rolled 9, rolled 4: 1 missile hits Left Torso (15/22 armor remaining)! - Gains [16 + 4 = 20] heat, sinks 13! Overheating! End Phase: Turn End Phase: Wulfen C - Must pass a guts test to avoid forced withdrawal (5 base + 1 center torso breached + 1 side torso destroyed + 2 engine damage - 2 successfully disengaged = 7): rolled 6, fails! Grand Summoner - Must pass a guts test to avoid forced withdrawal (5 base + 1 pilot damage - 1 heated battle = 5): rolled 11, succeeds!   Map Link Player Status:  OpForce Status:  Special Rules [N/A] Primary Objectives - Drive off or destroy Clan raiders - (2/5) Secondary Objectives - Drive off or destroy Clan decoys - (Complete) - Identify Clan Raiders - (Complete) Orders Due: Midnight Tuesday! PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Jul 9, 2018 |
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PTN, Partial Cover is removed regardless of where the target is as long as the attacker has valid LOS and is above the target. All of those hits to the GS's legs should have done damage. Since that's a solid 15 damage, it felt like worth mentioning. (If that's a house rule you've been running with for years ignore me)
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Well so much for that Piranha's return to the fight.
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There's a lot about the standard LOS rules I don't particularly like. I feel a lot of them are echoes of the days when Partial Cover was extremely bad for the defending unit, so they found as many reasons as they could to negate it. For those not in the know: Partial Cover used to provide a +1 to-hit penalty as it does now, but any successful attacks were made on the Punch Hit location table. The current version is a little powerful but since it requires adjacent terrain or water (which grants no other defensive bonuses) I don't mind. It's usually harder to get partial cover than it is to find a heavy woods hex to malinger in. It's easy enough to negate just by moving adjacent to (or otherwise outmaneuvering) the target. VVV That was a genuine mistake. Fortunately the Shiro hits regardless. PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Jul 9, 2018 |
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It used to be +3  But it was still really bad, because Punch table.I'm mostly confused why the Shiro ignored the partial cover but the Daikyu didn't.
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Artificer posted:Well so much for that Piranha's return to the fight. Piranha had the right idea in the first place.
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