We’ll now close tonight’s live blog. All eyes to Tuesday’s crucial vote.
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Caroline Lucas, James Cleverly, Barry Gardiner and Jacob Rees-Mogg to argue their case over what should happen
We’ll now close tonight’s live blog. All eyes to Tuesday’s crucial vote.
Thanks for joining us!
James Cleverly is back on social media already, reiterating the divisions among opponents to the deal – a strategy that Downing Street have been seen to increasingly pursue.
However, he stopped short of claiming victory. The hastiness of the debate allowed for few direct political points to be scored, with Cleverly, Gardiner, Lucas, and Rees-Mogg largely speaking rhetorically rather than addressing each other’s points (although at one stage the debate was temporarily reduced to a head-to-head between Lucas and Rees-Mogg).
Nonetheless, tonight’s format gave the panel scant time to articulate a comprehensive alternative to Theresa May’s proposed deal. However, Channel 4 was congratulated for providing “much needed reflection of the main strands of parliamentary problem ahead”.
My overriding thought right now is reminiscent of many following the general election debate in 2017, in which Theresa May abstained. It feels that somehow - yet again - our leaders are not subjecting themselves to adequate scrutiny.
Here are more highlights from the hour long event:
Labour has posted a video of Barry Gardiner’s opening statement:
As have the Tories for their man:
Caroline Lucas’s is here:
And, Rees-Mogg:
Here are the closing statements:
Theresa May’s deal would rip the country in half, Gardiner says, suggesting that it would satisfy nobody. “Labour’s deal secures your job and your future.”
Cleverly criticises the positions of the other three panellists on by one and says “Lets just take the deal and get out,” as the debate ends.
Guru-Murthy thanks the four debaters for attending, lamenting that May and Corbyn were absent.
I’ll post more comprehensive quotes from the debate shortly.
“The only honourable thing to do [if the government loses Tuesday’s vote] would be to hold a general election and step aside,” says Gardiner.
Theresa May will have ceased to function as a prime minister in such a case, the Labour shadow minister claims.
Rees-Mogg reiterates that the Tories and Labour both said they would implement the result of the referendum in their 2017 manifestos. He has continually criticised the people’s vote campaign, directing his ire towards Lucas.
“This is all about trust,” he says. “Across Europe politicians are distrusted - there are riots in France and troubles in Italy.
“Everybody agreed to accept the result of the referendum. Now Theresa May has said one thing and come back with a deal that does another.”
Guru-Murthy then speaks to an audience member who is in favour of a WTO set of rules, under a no deal. Another says such a course would be an “absolute tragedy”, Theresa May’s deal would be better.
A final audience member says we need a people’s vote, and the debate comes to an end!
Time to revisit the New Statesman’s profile of Jacob Rees-Mogg, says the magazines political editor.
Gardiner says that we need another general election, but Lucas says that Labour’s position would not be all that dissimilar to the Conservatives’.
A people’s vote would be the best way to tackle the grotesque inequalities in the UK, Lucas says.
Rees-Mogg asks whether she would then want a third or fourth referendum, presumably if the result did not go in the direction she preferred.
Lucas then highlights historic hypocrisy on Rees-Mogg’s part. This is turning into a bit of an argument between the two.
The younger generation will be more betrayed than anyone else, says Lucas in response
“One thing that is already clear by tonight is that this decision cannot be left to the politicians. We simply can’t agree.
“This not a parlour game or debating society. These are real people with real lives”
That’s why the people need to have their say, she says. “A people’s vote would be your first chance to vote upon the facts.
“Don’t leave it to the Westminster elite to decide for you,” she says to whoops and cheers.
Earlier she suggested that people campaigning for a no-deal are only doing so because they would be insulated from the ramifications of that course of action.
Everyone poses for a selfie taken by tonight’s host.
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