Ruby Ridge and the FBI License to Kill

 

 

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Today is the 29th anniversary of FBI sniper Lon Horiuchi killing Vicki Weaver as she stood in the door of a cabin at Ruby Ridge, Idaho, holding her baby.  The FBI initially claimed that killing Mrs. Weaver was justified and then later covered up key details and claimed it was accidental.  FBI chief Louis Freeh pretended his agents had done nothing seriously wrong.  After an Idaho prosecutor indicted Horiuchi for manslaughter, the Clinton administration Justice Department swayed a federal court to dismiss the case  based on the “supremacy clause” of the Constitution.   But the Founding Fathers never intended for “federal supremacy” to nullify all of the Bill of Rights. Federal judge captured the soul of the case in a dissent that warned of the new  James Bond “007 standard for the use of deadly force” against American citizens. Kozinski summarized the case: “A group of FBI agents formulated rules of engagement that permitted their colleagues to hide in the bushes and gun down men who posed no immediate threat.  Such wartime rules are patently unconstitutional for a police action.”

Though the FBI insisted its agents had behaved impeccably, the feds paid a $3 million wrongful death settlement to the Weaver family. A top FBI official was sent to prison for destroying key evidence in the case.

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Keeping Score

For those keeping score, this has not been America since Randy Weaver’s Ruby Ridge home was invaded by the FBI and/or U.S. Marshals in 1992, killing his wife Vickie and son Sam. For which, the U.S. Government, i.e., the U.S. taxpayer, paid $3.1 million dollars in damages. The settlement signaled that government agents were liable for the unwarranted deaths, but no one was held responsible.

The fabricated excuse was that Weaver had agreed to sell a sawed-off shotgun to a federal agent. To turn the gun-grabber narrative on its head, selling a sawed-off shotgun does not warrant execution. Shooting an unarmed woman and a boy however, does, but not where government agents are guilty.

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The Branch Davidians

 Via David

 

 

.......the ATF decided to flex its muscles live on CNN to make Bill Clinton and Janet Reno look like tough and abused every rule crafted for the war on drugs to raid the Davidians’ compound like they were invading Iraq.

The result was 76 people including 25 children being burned to death as the news cameras rolled.

The Waco seige and Ruby Ridge the year before caused the Oklahoma City bombing and the rise of the anti-government militia movement of the 90s.

So with Biden threatening to take our guns, an ideological purge of the military,and armed troops and barbed wire in DC, maybe the ATF can just quietly let this one not be remembered.

Because right now it really looks like military, US government is gearing up to go Waco on the rest of America.

"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.”

 Via Greg

Hey Brock

Hope this finds you well. After seeing this "news" story

Defying Trump, Attorney General Barr says the DOJ and the FBI didn't discover any evidence of widespread voter fraud in the 2020 election 

I can't forget just how far and wide the "swamp" really is.

 

William Barr is and has been nothing but a "creature " of the swamp. The second article explains that view point.

 

Your northern Copperhead Friend, 

 

~~Greg

William Barr’s Connection to Ruby Ridge, Defending FBI Snipers

History of the ATF: How the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms Became Corrupt & Abusive

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It’s unlikely that there is a single federal alphabet organization less popular among the readership of this website than the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. These are the people who gave us both the Siege at Ruby Ridge and the Siege of Waco. What’s more, they may well be engaged in an entirely unconstitutional exercise: monitoring and patrolling the gun ownership of law-abiding citizens.

There’s also a solid case to be made that the ATF is a rogue organization, the most corrupt of the federal alphabet agencies. This can be seen through a number of scandals beginning with Ruby Ridge, threading through the siege at Mount Carmel in Waco, and continuing to the notorious “Fast and Furious” scandal.

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The Waco Siege: What Happened When the Feds Laid Siege to the Branch Davidian Compound

 

“The record of the Waco incident documents mistakes. What the record from Waco does not evidence, however, is any improper motive or intent on the part of law enforcement.”

Joseph Biden, U.S. Senator, Delaware (D) and member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, which issued the Waco Investigation Report

 

The siege of the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas, is an important event in American history because it directly led to one of the biggest terrorist attacks on American soil – the bombing of the Oklahoma City Federal Building. It’s not necessary to defend this act of terrorism to understand why the entire freedom movement of the time was so incensed by it. Indeed, it stood as a symbol of federal overreach and the corruption of the Clinton Administration.

It’s important to separate fact from fiction when it comes to the siege of Waco, just as it is important to do so with the siege of Ruby Ridge or the attack on the American consolate in Benghazi. With every event, it is important to stick to the facts and what can be extrapolated from them to make the strongest argument about what went wrong and why, and what could be done differently in the future.

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The Guns of Ruby Ridge: America Teeters at the Precipice

 

 Where are you, my dear friend?

 

In the summer of 1992, a violent confrontation between Randy Weaver and federal Law Enforcement agencies led to three needless deaths and an 11-day standoff. The repercussions of this horrible event still resonate today.

The very mention of Ruby Ridge still elicits powerful emotions. In 1992 with a Republican in the White House, the full might of the US government was unleashed on an American citizen and his family. I’ll not debate the man’s politics or the righteousness of the investigation. What is indisputable, however, is that a 14-year-old boy, an unarmed mother holding an infant, and a US Marshal died violently in a miserably botched Law Enforcement operation.

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Siege at Ruby Ridge: The Forgotten History of the ATF Shootout That Started a Militia Movement

Tomorrow is the anniversary of Ruby Ridge. Thought you might like this. 

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Ruby Ridge Massacre

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The Siege at Ruby Ridge is often considered a pivotal date in American history. The shootout between Randy Weaver and his family and federal agents on August 21, 1992, is one that kicked off the Constitutional Militia Movement and left America with a deep distrust of its leadership – in particular then-President Bill Clinton and Attorney General Janet Reno.

 

 The short version is this: Randy Weaver and his wife Vicki moved with their four kids to the Idaho Panhandle, near the Canadian border, to escape what they thought was an increasingly corrupt world. The Weavers held racial separatist beliefs, but were not involved in any violent activity or rhetoric. They were peaceful Christians who simply wanted to be left alone.

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UPDATE: Waco “Twin Peaks” Shootout – All Charges Dropped, Not a Single Successful Prosecution…

Via Knuckledraggin' My Life Away

Every government individual involved in this should be charged with  murder. Waco and Ruby Ridge to boot.

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While the criminal cases will be dismissed, more than 130 of the bikers have civil rights lawsuits pending against Reyna, former Waco Police Chief Brent Stroman, the city of Waco, McLennan County and individual local and state officers who were involved in the arrest.

Here’s an update to a story we covered in detail for quite a while.  [All Rsearch Backstory Threads Available Here] After four years of seriously sketchy prosecutorial conduct, likely trying to cover up the number of people killed by police and SWAT units as they shot into the crowd, the McLennen county district attorney has dropped all charges against the bikers involved in the Waco “Twin Peaks” brawl.

That means the old DA and the new DA were not able to achieve a single successful prosecution of any of the 177 bike club members, after the entire group was originally rounded up and locked in jail on $1 million bonds.

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William Barr’s Connection to Ruby Ridge, Defending FBI Snipers

Via Richard

Trump's AG pick was top cop during the federal siege and killing murder of Randy Weaver's wife and son.

This cements it as far as I'm concerned. Where is Horiuchi ?

The Senate Judiciary Committee hearings for Attorney General nominee William Barr have focused heavily on Barr’s views on Special Counsel Robert Mueller. But nobody is asking about Barr’s legal crusade for blanket immunity for federal agents who killed American citizens. 

Barr received a routine questionnaire from the Judiciary Committee asking him to disclose his past work including pro bono activities “serving the disadvantaged.” The “disadvantaged” that Barr spent the most time helping was an FBI agent who slayed an Idaho mother holding her baby in 1992. Barr spent two weeks organizing former Attorneys General and others to support “an FBI sniper in defending against criminal charges in connection with the Ruby Ridge incident.” Barr also “assisted in framing legal arguments advanced… in the district court and the subsequent appeal to the Ninth Circuit,” he told the committee.

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Of Patriots and Ethnic Nationalists

Via David

I have been a long time reader and occasional commentator on a wide variety of right-wing web sites since the mid 1990s. The first, and for a long time the largest right-wing forums were run for, and populated by. self-described “patriots”.   These people self-identified with the US flag, the US Constitution, the US military, US history and the disappearing Mayberry America of a bygone era.

After a while, and in response to the continued misbehavior of the Federal government at the Waco and Ruby Ridge atrocities, a more radical subset of the patriot right came into existence, and created their own sites.  The “Three Percent” or “Threeper” sites were some of the first supporting this tendency.  The long-running Western Rifle Shooters Association (WRSA) has became,  over time,  home-base for the “armed patriot” right faction, in the same way that Free Republic has long been the home for the less militant patriots.

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Why Ruby Ridge Still Matters

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After violence in Charlottesville last August, a Washington Post article asserted that alienated right-wingers had “sparked the deadly standoff in Ruby Ridge, Idaho” in 1992.  Ruby Ridge has recently been invoked by many people to show the need for federal crackdowns on dangerous extremists.  Unfortunately, the mainstream media has largely forgotten – or expunged – the federal misconduct and deception that permeated that showdown.   But it is difficult to comprehend the fear that many Americans have of the government without reconsidering Ruby Ridge.

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Fed's misconduct in Cliven Bundy case stems from Ruby Ridge

Via Billy

Federal judge Gloria Navarro slammed the FBI and Justice Department on Monday, Jan. 8, for “outrageous” abuses and “flagrant misconduct” in the prosecution of Cliven Bundy and sons, the Nevada ranchers who spurred a high-profile standoff with the FBI and Bureau of Land Management in 2014. Navarro condemned the "grossly shocking” withholding of evidence from defense counsel in a case that could have landed the Bundys in prison for the rest of their lives. Navarro, who had declared a mistrial last month, dismissed all charges against the Bundys.

Navarro was especially riled because the FBI spent three years covering up or lying about the role of their snipers in the 2014 standoff.

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No end To Coverups

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Paul Craig Roberts

Craig Roberts (yes, there are two of us) is a former US Marine and a 27-year veteran of the Tulsa, Oklahoma, police force. He is a capable and committed person. Since 1989 he has written 13 books. His latest, just published, Medusa File II, consists essentially of his volumnious files of the investigation of the bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City on April 19th, 1995, known as “the Oklahoma City Bombing.”

The FBI, appreciative of Roberts’ capabilities, requested his service in the investigation. As officially part of the investigation, he took the investigation seriously. The investigation proceeded rapidly, developing many leads. Numerous witnesses saw Timothy McVeigh with many dark complexioned men prior to and just after the bombing. Leads were also developed to militias in Elohim City, to the German, Strassmeir, and others.

Before any of these leads could be developed, the investigation was taken over by President Bill Clinton’s Attorney General, Janet Reno. Once Washington took over, the investigation stopped. In its place was Washington’s theory that it was Tim McVeigh’s lonely protest. The volumnious evidence of McVeigh’s accomplices or controllers, as might have been the case, was in the way of the official story that imposed itself on the investigation. Many people resisted the coverup that descended on the case, including local journalists who eventually lost their jobs or moved on.

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Ruby Ridge: Lessons learned from the killing of innocent people

Via 4 Branch

 

When the government tries to squash anti-American ideas it doesn't like, the results are often destructive of American ideals.

Once the FBI committed to subverting “dissident speech,” its crackdowns became a bureaucratic growth industry that eventually included even women’s liberation movements. Nixon aide Tom Charles Huston testified in 1975 of COINTELPRO’s tendency “to move from the kid with a bomb to the kid with a picket sign, and from the kid with the picket sign to the kid with the bumper sticker of the opposing candidate. And you just keep going down the line.”

The best known case of federal right-wing ideological targeting climaxed 25 years ago at Ruby Ridge. Randy Weaver and his family lived in an isolated cabin in the mountains or northern Idaho. 

Weaver was a white separatist who believed races should live apart; he had no record of violence against other races — or anyone else. Undercover federal agents targeted him and entrapped him into selling a sawed-off shotgun. The feds sought to pressure Weaver, who often indulged in antigovernment bluster, to become an informant against the Aryan Nation but he refused.

After Weaver was sent the wrong court date and (understandably) failed to show up, the feds used any and all means to take him down.

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25 Years Ago Today the Federal Govt Changed its Rules to Launch a Sniper Attack on Off-Grid Family

Via Iver

Randall and Vicki Weaver and their children wanted nothing more than to be left to live an isolated life in peace in their cabin enclave on a northern Idaho mountaintop called Ruby Ridge. Untrusting of the federal government and of the belief society had taken an insurmountable turn for the worse, the Weavers — as many residents in the remote and breathtaking area — taught their children to be self-sufficient and defend themselves with firearms from unwanted intrusions onto the family’s property.

But the Weaver’s seemingly idyllic life came to an appallingly violent end over several hours from August 21 to 22, 1992, in a horrendously botched federal raid that would also profoundly alter perceptions about the U.S. government in the minds of even ordinary Americans.

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Another Day, Another Wray

 

Watching Chris Wray answering questions before the Senate confirmation hearing gave me flashbacks to every other piece of work to sit in that chair.  Mueller, Freeh and Comey come to mind.  Who was the FBI Director during Fast and Furious? Mueller.  Who was the FBI Director during the subsequent investigation of the siege at Waco? Freeh. So, we look at that astounding record of incompetence or outright malfeasance and Chris Wray looks no different.

I don't know Wray's history, nor do I care.  The enduring fact is that the FBI is a cesspool filled with cover-ups, withheld information and obstruction of justice.  They have never successfully brought the truth to the American people through all of the scandals that have taken place, it has always been a court of law where wrongful deaths had been adjudicated that brought forth the truth of the Ruby Ridge incident. It was the wrongful deaths being adjudicated that brought out the truth of the Waco siege.  None of this was revealed due to a rigorous FBI investigation.

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On Resistance

 

History shows that all successful revolutions established an alternate 'shadow' government
during the uprising.  Many of those unsuccessful also did, but weaker, less competent, or
just as corrupt as that which they opposed.  It was and is, a hallmark of the Communists.

The noise of the internet shows no such activity among the 'Patriot' or 'Freedom Forces'.
Lots of gabble about local resistance, and resisting Mil/LEO oppression, all of which sounds
great over a beer and a bag of wings, but not so pretty good the deeper we get into this
morass. 

The Confederacy established, from the get go, a legitimate central government, with legal
authority to act in defence of the Southern States.  Unfortunately, as a confederation of
sovereign states, it lacked the power to make its laws stick.  Lesson there for would be
secessionists.  Common cause is insufficient to ensure common effort.  Various States
went their own way, leaving Richmond to scrounge, scrabble, and root hog or die.
North Carolina and Georgia were two that withheld critical supplies from troops of other
states, in dire need. 

Appomattox saw thousands of starving, ragged, barefoot rebels stack arms, while tons of
supplies were held back, including 80,000 pairs of shoes, thousands of uniform jackets,
and rations were left to be taken up by Yankee soldiers or freed slaves.  Lee had to beg
rations of Grant while warehouses in certain states were full.

In the American Revolution, New England, once the English were removed from Boston,
pretty much forgot about the war, busy selling foods and produce to the enemy; and handed
it off to Southern States to fight.  Royal Navy ships had no difficulty receiving water, meat,
vegetables or grain from the Yankee 'rebels'.  At Valley Forge, the Army starved while good
Pennsylvania farmers supplied the British with beef, poultry, and all the sustenance needed.  
The occupying forces of Philadelphia and New York never went hungry.

So, from our own history, we have key lessons in the conduct of a War for Independence.

Not everybody on your side is on your side.  Beware the convenient "Patriot".  Beware of the
personal jealousies, selfishness, and downright ignorance of your 'fellow patriots'.  Know that
better than two thirds of Americans did not participate in the Revolution.  Know that more than
a few 'Southern Gentlemen'  avoided service with the Armies.  Know that many just up and left
for Europe or Mexico, to save their precious skins.  Know also that the war against Dixie was 
largely fought by Irish and German immigrants, recruited for the purpose by Lincoln's agents.

The idea of the Noble American, brave and true, is mostly a *fiction created after the fact. Yankee
states recruited ex- slaves in occupied territories and counted them against their quotas for draftees
Yankees bought 'substitutes' in Europe rather than get down and dirty in Southern mud and blood.
Draft dodging didn't start with Bill Clinton.*I disagree.The War Didn’t End At Appomattox

So, all this leads to this . . . my fear is that somebody somewhere will start a fire he can't put out.
Unprepared, unplanned, unorganized, unsupported, unwanted, the rising will be crushed locally,
and the result will pogroms against anyone suspected of harboring dissident ideas.  And America
will cheer the slaughter.  We don't need another Shay's Rebellion, nor another Whiskey war, nor
another Appomattox. 

The Bundy Ranch incident was heartening, after a fashion, but know that DotGov is rounding up anyone they can identify for punishment.  The Refuge seige is getting the same treatment.  Neither were Lexington or Concord, nor Manassas.  DotGov demonstrated at Waco that they will kill anyone, anytime with no reason at all.  Ruby Ridge demonstrated that they will manufacture a reason if necessary, and get away with it.

I think that we'd be better off establishing a shadow government to assume control once the whole bankster  bomb explodes.  When the federal government expires of its own weight and criminality, somebody will pick up the pieces.  Somebody better have a revenue plan ready to implement, a plan to pay the emergency services, and the troops they take under command.  A plan to secure territory and resources.  Someone will be doing that, the question is, "Who do you WANT doing that?" 

Maybe Trump can pull this rabbit out of the hat, but I doubt it.  I wish him all the best and pray for my country. But all the will in the world didn't keep 'Titanic' afloat; all the will and prayers didn't save the Confederacy. We too long ago let that wildcat out of the bag and nobody's gonna get him stuffed back in.

--Dick

Burns Chronicles No 8 Active Patriots v. Passive Patriots

 

“…As to the history of the revolution, my ideas may be peculiar, perhaps singular. What do we mean by revolution? The war? That was no part of the revolution’ it was only an effect and consequence of it. The revolution was in the minds of the people, and this was effected from 1760 to 1775, in the course of fifteen years, before a drop of blood was drawn at Lexington. The records of the thirteen legislatures, the pamphlets, newspapers in all the colonies ought to be consulted during that period, to ascertain the steps by which the public opinion was enlightened and informed concerning the authority of parliament over the colonies”.

John Adams to Thomas Jefferson      August 24, 1815.

I believe that Adams’s description of the Revolution, being the period in which the populace transitioned from faith in government to distrust of government, is probably appropriate for the 18th century as well as today.

Since Ruby Ridge, Idaho and Waco, Texas, we have seen a very substantial change in the attitude of large portions of our people, with regard to the government. The recent murder of LaVoy Finicum, with the full knowledge that those who murdered him will have absolute and complete protection from the government, is indicative of that distrust. The question, however, is not about that distrust, rather, which of us are truly Patriots, and which are only pretend patriots?

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Murder on America's Hands

Via Cousin John

 

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Preston James comment. The reporter mentioned in the article is Santilli. Came from VT written by the POS,Gordon Duff who is aiding abetting the FBI.

Preston James, Ph.D January 27, 2016 at 4:41 pm

The Select Few that really run things (the folks that really run the KM hierarchy) need to provoke a total civil war between their DHS, local militarized, dumbed-down mind-kontrolled police versus the patriots, Constitutionalists and everyone who is anti-NWO. This whole event in Oregon is a provocation set up to help produce this total and new American Civil War. The local cops are stupid, the FBI HRT are mind-kontrolled murderers that have a proven track record of murdering innocent women and children in cold blood (Waco and Ruby Ridge). Anyone who has met an HRT sniper knows they are mind-kontrolled and constantly brag, “we are honed to kill”). It was an HRT sniper in a black helicopter that shot two BATF agents through the head which exited the jaws bone on all.

 These murders were blamed on the Davidians just like the fed murdered at Ruby Ridge who was back shot by an HRT sniper). What these soulless scum don’t realize that when the select Few are done using them as Cutout they will be quickly disposed of. It’s too soon to know what really happened but normally the FBI needs to murder at least one to get the full machinery of the US Dept of Just-us moving they way they want, so it wouldn’t surprise me if they murdered someone in cold blood. sad that the protesters were themselves conned, misled and provoked. And yes, one of the media guys (arrested too as cover) is a definite FBI undercover who was previously entrapped for mortgage fraud.