Courts say DUI suspects can run but can't hide

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Jun 1, 2006 3:17 pm US/Pacific

Justices: DUI Suspects Can Run But Can't Hide

Police can now enter homes of DUI suspects without a warrant.
(AP) SAN FRANCISCO Police may enter Californians' homes without
warrants to arrest those suspected of driving under the influence, the
California Supreme Court ruled Thursday in a case testing the scope of
the Fourth Amendment right to be free from unreasonable searches and
seizures.

The 6-1 decision follows similar rulings in about a dozen other
states. A dissenting justice said the majority handed authorities a
"free pass" to unlawfully enter private homes and arrest people
without warrants.

Under the Fourth Amendment, authorities are prohibited from entering a
home and making an arrest without a warrant unless so-called "exigent"
circumstances are present. Those include "hot pursuit" of a fleeing
felon, imminent destruction of evidence and the risk of danger to the
police or other persons inside or outside of a house, among others.

In this case, Justice Marvin Baxter wrote that the loss of evidence at
issue was obtaining a measurement of the suspect's blood-alcohol
level. Baxter added that a contrary ruling would allow "the corruption
of evidence that occurs when the suspect takes advantage of any delay
to ingest more alcohol -- or to claim to have done so -- or when the
suspect evades police capture until he or she is no longer
intoxicated."

Baxter and the majority was cautious in saying the decision would not
give police carte blanche powers.

"In holding that exigent circumstances justified the warrantless entry
here, we need not decide, and do not hold, that the police may enter a
home without a warrant to effect an arrest of a DUI suspect in every
case," Baxter wrote.

This isn't surprising. The CA courts are full of nutcase judges and
couldn't care less about Constitutional rights, unless it's for smoking
pot, of course.

And so falls the home jaybird. Not quite the way I thought, but close
enough.

Drive home at the speed limit when everyone else speeds, you must
be drunk and trying to avoid law enforcement. Drive home like everyone
else, you're a violator and suspected speeding drunk for that turn that
looked a little sloppy to the cop. So much for constitutional
protection.

The link between home and car has been made, which is what I previously
wrote would happen, just in a different manner. The slippery
slope is alive and well.

And just got a bit steeper....

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"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little
Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
--Benjamin Franklin

Stop being a criminal coddler. Why should killer DUIs have any
rights?

I always drive under the SL and i've never been pulled over as a DUI
suspect. THINK

That's a lie.

Look on the bright side, guys! If we can just get some legislation
prohibiting idiotic intransigent internet trolling passed ... buh-bye,
Judy!
--
C.R. Krieger
(It's what I do)

Liar.

You've been caught admitting to speeding (twice), running red lights and
voting republican. It's no stretch to believe that you are a serial DUI
also.

> THINK

STFU.

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"> Have you ever driven a car faster than the legal speed limit?

Yes, but never deliberately. In fact i got a speeding ticket about 5
years ago for doing 41 in a 25. I just about kicked the cops teeth in
cause i was sure he was lying. No way the SL on this wide open
stretch could be 25, i thought."

Pride of America (c.k.a. "laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMOCIDE), 10/3/2002
Message-ID: <3c1753f7.02100...@posting.google.com>
http://tinyurl.com/5u4wg

Connecting POA to LBMHB/lbVH:
See the following: http://tinyurl.com/ahphj

There was such proposed legislation. The way it read however it could be
used to simply stamp out whatever the government did not like. Too
dangerous. My kill file does a better job filtering the trolls than the
government could ever hope to do.

Same for GA. Except they won't pull you over for too slow per se. It
will be for some bullshit thing like a burned out tag light or following
too closely (with too closely being defined as within 1/2 mile of the
car ahead of you). Especially if you are southbound...

It makes sense. They are probably restricted to situations where they
follow someone home that they suspect of drinking. If they park outside
and wait for a warrant, the suspect could claim to have had a couple of
drinks once at home.

If someone makes it home unobserved, the warrantless entry wouldn't make
sense, since the time factor would already make a subsequent test
meaningless. In that case, there would be nothing to be saved by
immediate entry, so it wouldn't be justified.

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Paul Hovnanian mailto:Pa...@Hovnanian.com
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Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum
immane mittam. (Translation from Latin: "I have a catapult. Give me
all the money, or I will fling an enormous rock at your head.")

Doesn't matter. Within a year it'll be stretched to the point where
the police can kick down anyone's door and claim there was an
anonymous tip that the person was driving drunk.

Furthermore, any sort of driving can be interepeted as supporting a
suspicion of drunk driving given the underposted speed limits and general
lack of people minding the details (turn signals, etc) while driving. (do
everything perfect you're a drunk trying to avoid the cops, make
mistakes or just ignore things like most people, it's because you're
drunk)

Because they get elected to the US Senate by the fine retards, er,
citizens of Massachusetts?

What do you expect at the Left Coast?

Idiot. You don't even understand the issue. The cops were not
accusing anyone of DUI. That's why they wanted to conduct the test -
to find out if the driver was drunk or not. THINK

I never admitted to any of that stuff, you lying moron.

Prove it.

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--
Loco Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend admits
to being a deadly speeder:

"There's a 55mph freeway near where i live and
if i do 50, everybody passes me. But if i do
60 very few do."
--Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend, 12/17/2004
ref: http://tinyurl.com/np3y6
Message ID: <1103257015....@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>

--
Loco Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend admits to being a red light
runner:

"The cameras don't catch everyone. I have never been nailed for this."

Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend, 5/9/06
Ref: http://tinyurl.com/ee4wq
Message ID: 9nb162p1idam39jhm...@4ax.com

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You lose, yet again, Cupcake. Oh, yeah and I forgot to mention how you
have admitted to driving an unsafe vehicle numerous times, so it is no
stretch to believe that you vote republican regularly inaddition to
being a serial drunk driver like your buddy kennedy. SIEG HEIL!

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Get back under your bridge, troll!

"Hey stupid - I've tried to fix it and i can't. The cable adjusting
nuts are rusted solid."
--Laura Bush - Vehicular Homicide (a.k.a. Laura Bush murdered her
boyfriend, Pride of America, aunt millie and Judy Dairya,
among others. See: http://tinyurl.com/ahphj),
6 Apr 2005 11:05:54 -0700
Ref: or9851dpb7a4s8fduf7bf83gab02t9u...@4ax.com
Ref: http://tinyurl.com/8exv3

But if we did that, then your butt buddy tubby kennedy would have to
give up his senate seat. You lose.

--
Aunt Judy defends a known *drunk driver*:

"Almost all vehicle 'accidents' are due to driver
recklessness but the Chappaquidick incident is one
instance where it may really have been no ones
fault except the idiot who built the bridge."
--"Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend," 11/10/2005
Ref: http://tinyurl.com/9jtjt
Msg ID: 1131599968.2...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com

When we have a drunk driver on the road we're all at risk. They
shouldn't have a right to drive to their homes, hunker down in them and
not answer the door to avoid being caught. The cops should be able to
grab the criminal, after warning that the door is about to be
forcefully entered if they don't open it themselves.

As far as the heart attack goes. It's a good thing they will bust down
the door, to do as they would for the drunk driver and get them the
help they need.

Best rule. When a cop coms a knockin' on your door, better open the
door and see what the problem is and don't be playing any games cause
if they don't get you today, they can always get you tomorrow.

Keep in mind. In our country a cop can just shoot you dead, throw a
.22 by you or a water pistol and say you pointed it at him and show up
for duty the next morning. Balance that thought in your self proclaimed
rights you feel you have as a drunk or one that protects them.

And when they break down your door after I (or someone with my
mentality) have phoned in an anonymous tip that you were seen weaving
and driving erratically, don't come complaining here.

Oh, yeah right. Do your bangs cover up the lobotomy scars?

Best rules are to remember your 5th ammendment rights and demand a
lawyer.

Just goes to show the sorry state of affairs in the USA...

It sounds like you're supporting this suspension of civil rights if I'm
interpreting your comment correctly. I can't tell from your post, do
you live in the US or elsewhere?

nate

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replace "fly" with "com" to reply.
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If the driver, drunk or NOT, made it home, they are on PRIVATE property
and the criminal terrorist cops have no business or right to break and
enter onto private property unless the owner of the property explicitlt
permits them to.

That's the way it should be anyway.

Very true, and it applies to DWB and DWW offenses equally.

They won't pull you over for driving too slow. They will see you driving
slower than the prevailing traffic and otherwise making an effort to
stay within the law and you fit the profile of a "drug courrier." Being
of a minority persuasion adds to the "profile," but is not a
requirement. And then they will look for any little thing to pull you
over for - usually shit like a loose license tag or a burned out tag
light or side marker. All you have to do is drive down I-95 some night
and you can spot the DWB patrols easily. They will be set up
perpendicular to the road and if at night, will have their spot lights
shining across the road looking for cars driven by minorities. There is
no such thing as a law abiding citizen on I-95 in Fl or GA.

Obviously because in the United States, people are innocent until
proven guilty.

So much for innocent until proven guilty, eh comrade?

They do this on I-10 as well

So why hasn't this every happened to me?. I've driven under the SL
for years and never get pulled over. THINK

>

You're not thinking. If the cops are pursuing a robbery suspect and he
runs into his house, the cops are allowed to follow even without a
search warrant. Same thing with the drunk drivers.

so how did you get that ticket for 40-whatever in a 25, you lying sack
of crap?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Nice grammar, fucknuckle.

It hasn't happened to you, because your piece of shit is so full of
violations and your driving habits are such (speeding, rlr, etc...) that
no cop in his right mind would put you in the profile.

That's not what you said here:

Caught lying, yet again.....

> THINK

QUIT LYING, fuckwit!!

Ditto I-75, even though its not really germane to this discussion.

I doubt that Loco Laura's POS would even make it out of CO, much less
over to the East Coast.

A raving idiot like Loco Laura could only be 100% White Anglo Saxon
Protestant...

A robbery suspect will be chased to the finish, regardless of whos
property he happens to be at or chance upon. The officer will do
everything in their control and power to assure that innocents are not
harmed in the process of getting the bad guy.

Fact of life.

The drunk is a criminal, someone that doesn't care about their safety
or the safety or others. Like the robber, he's armed and is a danger
to public safety. Collectively, the Drunk Drivers of our society
slaughter people by the hundreds.

I'll bet more people die at their hands, than that of robbers!

Fact of Life.

Actually, the resident troll makes sense here (which I imagine means
plaigerism was involved). The problem is applying it to drunk drivers
who weren't being pursued -- as in the case the court considered.

No question about that. DUIs are much more harmful to society than
robbers and of course the cops have the right to pursue them even in
to their own homes. Lots of people don't want to allow that because
they are drunk drivers themselves.

What are you babbling about?. I don't speed period.

>

YOUSTUPIDWORTHLESSPOS. How many times do i have to explain that? It
was an experiment not a crime, you morn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What's the matter, sweet heart? Don't like being caught in a lie and
getting a huge taste of your own medicine?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

"You morn???" Noce spelling! Damn, I'm really getting to you, aren't I??
I think I see a new .sig coming on..... ROTFLMAO!!!!!

Was this (your admission to red light running) an "experiment," also???

Of course the suspected DUI was being pursued. THINK

I say he should tell it to the judge.

I think that Loco Laura is starting to crack under the pressure of the
facts that it has been confronted with.

--
Loco Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend admits - yet again -
to being a deadly speeder (spelling and gramatical errors
(and hissy fit) left intact):

Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend/laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE,
6/4/06
Ref: http://tinyurl.com/rue7x
Message ID: 5n0682p1t9ohhdauh...@4ax.com

WRONG! The Facts and the TRUTH beat you down again!

And the judge can "experiment," when he tosses Loco Laura into the can
for a year or a hundred. :)

--
Loco Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend admits to endangering the lives
of others on the road:

"Hey stupid - I've tried to fix it and i can't. The cable adjusting
nuts are rusted solid."
--Laura Bush - Vehicular Homicide (a.k.a. Laura Bush murdered her
boyfriend, Pride of America, aunt millie and Judy Dairya,
among others. See: http://tinyurl.com/ahphj),
6 Apr 2005 11:05:54 -0700
Ref: or9851dpb7a4s8fduf7bf83gab02t9u...@4ax.com
Ref: http://tinyurl.com/8exv3

Tell me where you are again and what you drive? I just want to know so I
can call in to one of those anonymous tip lines and tell the cops I saw
you driving erratically and weaving down the road, so they can come
busting down *your* door.

Fact of Life.

Of course, he wasn't. READ.

Your lack of response is deafening, honeybun. I guess that's to be
expected when you have been exposed as a liar and a hypocrite. Sucks to
be you, don't it?

By the way, luscious lips, I see you are posting from earthlink now.
Google Groups finally get their head out of their ass and terminate your
(and your sockpuppets) accounts?

<remainder of post left intact to remind Loco Laura of its admissions.>

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Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend/laurs bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE,

> to being a deadly speeder:

> Message ID: <1103257015....@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>
>
> --

> --
>
> You lose, yet again, Cupcake. Oh, yeah and I forgot to mention how you
> have admitted to driving an unsafe vehicle numerous times, so it is no
> stretch to believe that you vote republican regularly inaddition to
> being a serial drunk driver like your buddy kennedy. SIEG HEIL!
>
>

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Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend/laurs bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE, 6/4/06

That's not me, you idiot. Tha'ts some doofus called Proud of America.
Gawd but you're dumb.

Bullshit. That's you, moron.

^^^^^^^^^^^ Nice Gramar, fuckwit!

Look who's talking...

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Proof that POA is LBMHB/lbVH:

Drunks are habitual criminals just like sex criminals, they should have
to register for life as well!!!

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I've been saying that for years but since DUI is a crime popular with
rich white men ( like congressmen), not much chance of that..The
coddling of deadly drunk drivers will no doubt last forever.

HAHAHAHA. Now that is really stupid, even for you. Kids are killed and
maimed by DUIs every day in america but this nut says drunk drivers
don't endanger kids!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Particularly as long as a Kennedy is in the senate.

ROTFLMAO. When you lie, you should try not to be so transparent,
retard.

And convicted DUI bush in the WH.

And it just shows the character that Bush has; he took the rap like a
man. Not like that pussy Tubby Kennedy...

Of course, considering you're a pussy too, I can see how you would
idolize old fat boy. He sorta looks like your mom, doesn't he?