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Zaodai posted:I hold no ill-will to the players themselves, but I'm glad the Wobbies aren't just having a traditional "players steamroll the mission" run of it. Lose, you daft religious bastards! 
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Grizzwold posted:I assume the wobbie mechs have some sort of self-destruct built in to prevent, say, the Davion techs having a field day with that headcapped giant spider robot? The armor fails after the stress of one battle and aside from the computer systems there's nothing particularly unusual about anything else they're carrying. A self-destruct looks very suspicious, some dead Mechwarriors and Clantech not so much.
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Gwaihir posted:This is how I picture it making sense. That's what I always thought too, so I'd say it only gets the x2 when it hits structure but I can see it going the other way.
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Chronojam posted:[It's ok for Machine Guns to be good] This is a very compelling argument.
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Giant Spider Invasion 9 “Looks like they’re not content to let me take potshots at them so I can play the hero for the holovids later,” Ian smiled wryly as an enemy Gauss Rifle round glanced off the BattleMaster’s armored prow. The silvery streak vanished upwards, its pace and trajectory stalling almost immediately, but the watermelon-sized projectile had done its job, flaking away ablative sheets of the BattleMaster’s mirrored armor. If the sheer shininess of laser reflective armor wasn’t so visually compelling, Ian would’ve preferred something more impact or artillery resistant. “Get us moving, Malcom,” he called back, but his pilot was already bringing the BattleMaster up to speed. It may have behooved him to give his bodyguards some direct orders, but they were handling themselves well enough. That an enemy had come to take his life hardly phased him: that was part of the job, after a fashion; but that didn’t mean Ian was obliged to make things easy for them. If someone wanted him dead, they’d have to commit to it, and with so many of his forces at their backs they’d be cut down wholesale as long as he managed to hold out. “Circle around, and keep your distance.” He advised calmly. It might have been easier to withdraw, but with so many civilian eyes on him running from the battle would be far worse press than lingering. Ian hated that thought the instant it popped into his head, but his father had taught him to be mindful of political concerns. He was the First Prince of the Federated Suns first, and a Mechwarrior—perhaps not dead last, but somewhere around 80th. “Keep us in cover,” He advised, “and don’t worry about getting me good shots. The safer we are, the more freely Conner and the others can work. We’ll assist where and if we can.” “Aye, sir.” Malcom’s reply was calm. That was another point in his favor, even the best soldiers could crack under fire and to Ian’s knowledge Malcom had only seen battle against pirates. Dangerous as they could be, pirates were a far cry from trained and competent opponents. If Malcom had been the bloodthirsty sort an order to keep out of the fighting might have been unbearable for him. Ian smiled. Conner knew a cold-blooded, methodical thinker would be more to Ian’s liking than any of the battle maniacs he’d trained with at the Sun Zhang academy. Passion was a useful weapon in small doses, but Ian had never found the warrior’s spirit to be particularly beneficial.    Movement Phase Annihilator - Attempts to antagonize Sun Spider (5 guts + 3 piloting = 8): rolled 9, margin of success 1! Sun Spider (Player) - Sets BattleMaster as Blood Stalker target! - Must pass a guts test to resist Antagonizer (4 guts + 5 piloting + 1 MoS = 10): rolled 9, fails! Annihilator replaces BattleMaster as primary target! Shooting Phase Sun Spider (Player) - Torso-twists to threaten hex 2404! - Fires Autocannon/10 (Ultra, AP) at Annihilator (4 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 0 enemy movement + 1 woods + 1 not blood stalker target = 8): rolled 6, miss! - Fires Large Heavy Laser at Annihilator (4 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 0 enemy movement + 1 woods + 1 not blood stalker target - 1 laser = 7): rolled 7, hit Right Arm (25/31 armor remaining)! - Fires SRM-4 (HE) at Annihilator (4 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 0 enemy movement + 1 woods + 1 not blood stalker target = 8): rolled 12 with a cluster roll of (12 + 2 = 12): 4 missiles hit Right Torso (30/32 armor remaining), Left Leg (38/40 armor remaining), Left Torso (30/32 armor remaining), Right Torso (28/32 armor remaining)! - Fires SRM-4 (HE) at Annihilator (4 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 0 enemy movement + 1 woods + 1 not blood stalker target = 8): rolled 5, miss! - Fires Rocket Launcher 10 at Annihilator (4 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 0 enemy movement + 1 woods + 1 not blood stalker target = 8): rolled 12 with a cluster roll of 5: 6 missiles hit Left Leg (33/40 armor remaining), Left Arm (30/31 armor remaining)! - Fires Rocket Launcher 10 at Annihilator (4 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 0 enemy movement + 1 woods + 1 not blood stalker target = 8): rolled 7, miss! - Fires Rocket Launcher 10 at Annihilator (4 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 0 enemy movement + 1 woods + 1 not blood stalker target = 8): rolled 5, miss! - Gains 34 heat, sinks 15! Overheating! Black Heart (Player) - Fires Gauss Rifle at BattleMaster (3 base + 2 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement + 2 woods - 1 Medium Range Master = 9): rolled 6, miss! - Fires Gauss Rifle at BattleMaster (3 base + 2 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement + 2 woods - 1 Medium Range Master = 9): rolled 10, hit Center Torso (25/40 armor remaining)! - Fires SRM-4 (Streak) at Javelin (3 base + 0 range + 2 movement + [2] enemy movement + 1 secondary target = 8): rolled 7, fails to lock-on! - Fires SRM-4 (Streak) at Javelin (3 base + 0 range + 2 movement + [2] enemy movement + 1 secondary target = 8): rolled 6, fails to lock-on! - Fires Gauss SMG at Javelin (3 base + 0 range + 2 movement + [2] enemy movement + 1 secondary target = 8): rolled 7, miss! - Fires Gauss SMG at Javelin (3 base + 0 range + 2 movement + [2] enemy movement + 1 secondary target = 8): rolled 3, miss! - Gains 10 heat, sinks 10! Wildcat (Player) - Torso-twists to threaten hex 2220! - Fires LRM-6 (Hotshot) at Wight (4 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 2 enemy movement = 8): rolled 6, miss! - Fires LRM-6 (Hotshot) at Wight (4 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 2 enemy movement = 8): rolled 12 with a cluster roll of (10 + 2 = 12): 6 missiles hit Left Leg (11/16 armor remaining), Right Leg (11/16 armor remaining), Right Arm (7/12 armor remaining (TAC!)), Center Torso (13/18 armor remaining), Right Leg (6/16 armor remaining), Left Arm (7/12 armor remaining)! - Gains 19 heat, sinks 14! Overheating! Hellcat (Player) - Cannon weapons disabled due to heat! - Gains 4 heat, sinks 14! Overheating! Bearcat (Player) - Pilot unconscious! - Gains 0 heat, sinks 11! Cobalt Tarantula (Ally) - Shut down! - Gains - heat, sinks 11! BattleMaster - Fires PPC at Black Heart (3 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement + 3 woods - 1 focus = 8): rolled 9, hit Left Leg (17/27 armor remaining)! - Gains 10 heat, sinks 19! Annihilator - Torso-twists to threaten hex 2507! - Fires Autocannon/10 (Single, Tracer) at Black Heart (3 base + 2 range + 0 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 woods = 7): rolled 2, miss! - Fires Autocannon/10 (Single, HE) at Black Heart (3 base + 2 range + 0 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 woods - 1 tracer = 6): rolled 6, hit Center Torso (24/35 armor remaining)! - Fires Autocannon/10 (Single, HE) at Black Heart (3 base + 2 range + 0 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 woods - 1 tracer = 6): rolled 9, hit Center Torso (14/35 armor remaining)! - Fires Autocannon/10 (Ultra, HE) at Black Heart (3 base + 2 range + 0 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 woods - 1 tracer = 6): rolled 5, miss! - Gains 15 heat, sinks 14! Overheating! Roughneck - Torso-twists to threaten hex 2306 (Serene Grace)! - Fires Autocannon/10 (Ultra, AP) at Sun Spider (3 base + 0 range + 1 movement + 3 enemy movement + 1 woods = 8): rolled 6, miss! - Fires SRM-6 (Streak) at Sun Spider (3 base + 0 range + 1 movement + 3 enemy movement + 1 woods = 8): rolled 8, 6 missiles hit Right Leg (14/26 armor remaining), Left Leg (19/26 armor remaining), Left Leg (17/26 armor remaining), Head (0/9 armor remaining (Pilot hit!)), Left Leg (15/26 armor remaining), Left Arm (3/20 armor remaining)! - Fires Heavy Machine Gun at Sun Spider (3 base + 0 range + 1 movement + 3 enemy movement + 1 woods = 8): rolled 10, hit Right Torso (17/22 armor remaining)! 2x TAC! - Fires Heavy Machine Gun at Sun Spider (3 base + 0 range + 1 movement + 3 enemy movement + 1 woods = 8): rolled 7, miss! - Gains 11 heat, sinks 11! Hound - Fires Light PPC at Black Heart (4 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 woods = 8): rolled 10, hit Left Arm (2/22 armor remaining)! - Fires Light PPC at Black Heart (4 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 woods = 8): rolled 9, hit Left Torso (7/22 armor remaining)! - Gains 12 heat, sinks 10! Overheating! Blackjack Prime - Fires Medium Laser at Bearcat’s Right Torso (3 base + 0 range + 1 movement - 4 immobile target = 0): automatically hit, rolled 7 to confirm, hit Right Torso (0/24 armor, 6/16 structure remaining)! Crit! - Gains 8 heat, sinks 10! Argus - Fires LRM-4 (Hotshot) at Hellcat (3 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 0 enemy movement + 1 woods = 6): rolled 9 with a cluster roll of (8 + 2 = 10): 3 missiles hit Right Arm (21/24 armor remaining), Left Arm (18/24 armor remaining), Left Torso (18/24 armor remaining)! - Fires LRM-4 (Hotshot) at Hellcat (3 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 0 enemy movement + 1 woods = 6): rolled 7 with a cluster roll of (2 + 2 = 4): 2 missiles hit Left Arm (13/24 armor remaining), Right Arm (16/21 armor remaining)! - Gains 12 heat, sinks 12! JagerMech - Holds fire! - Gains 2 heat, sinks 4! Hanse MBT #1 - Fires Plasma Rifle at Black Heart (3 base + 2 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 woods = 9): rolled 7, miss! - Fires Plasma Rifle at Black Heart (3 base + 2 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 woods = 9): rolled 6, miss! Hanse MBT #2 - Fires Plasma Rifle at Wildcat (3 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 woods = 7): rolled 12, hit Rear Center Torso (0/12 armor, 22/23 structure remaining)! Crit! Target gains 4 heat! - Fires Plasma Rifle at Wildcat (3 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 woods = 7): rolled 7, hit Right Arm (0/10 shield armor, 22/24 armor remaining)! Target gains 1 heat! MHI Warthog - Holds fire! Glory Heavy FSV - Fires LRM-4 (HE) at Black Heart (3 base + 2 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement + 2 woods = 10): rolled 8, miss! - Fires LRM-4 (HE) at Black Heart (3 base + 2 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement + 2 woods = 10): rolled 8, miss! Owens Prime - Torso-twists to threaten hex 2207! - Fires LRM-2 at Black Heart (3 base + 2 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 woods = 9): rolled 7, miss! - Fires LRM-2 at Black Heart (3 base + 2 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 woods = 9): rolled 9 with a cluster roll of (10 + 2 = 12): 2 missiles hit Center Torso (9/35 armor remaining), Center Torso (4/35 armor remaining)! - Gains 10 heat, sinks 11! Valkyrie - Fires Medium Laser at Wildcat (3 base + 0 range + 3 movement + 1 enemy movement - 1 laser - 1 focus = 5): rolled 6, hit Center Torso (23/30 shield armor remaining)! - Gains 12 heat, sinks 11! Javelin - Fires SRM-6 (Streak) at Black Heart (3 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 woods = 7): rolled 3, miss! - Fires SRM-6 (Microbomb) at Black Heart (3 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 woods = 7): rolled 6, miss! - Gains 10 heat, sinks 10! Wight - Fires Small Laser at Wildcat (3 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement - 1 laser = 5): rolled 11, hit Left Torso (7/15 shield armor remaining)! - Fires Small Laser at Wildcat (3 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement - 1 laser = 5): rolled 6, hit Left Leg (5/10 shield armor remaining)! - Gains 12 heat, sinks 13! Crusader B - Fires LRM-6 (HE) at Black Heart (3 base + 4 range + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement + 3 woods = 13): automatic miss! - Gains 8 heat, sinks 16! Enfield - Fires Large Laser at Hellcat (3 base + 0 range + 2 movement + 0 enemy movement + 1 woods + 2 smoke - 1 laser - 1 focus = 6): rolled 9, hit Right Leg (2/29 armor remaining)! - Gains 12 heat, sinks 12! Stalker II - Holds fire! - Gains 2 heat, sinks 25! Thanatos - Fires Plasma Rifle at Hellcat (3 base + 2 range + 2 movement + 0 enemy movement + 1 woods + 2 smoke - 1 focus = 9): rolled 7, miss! - Gains 12 heat, sinks 15! Aeron #1 - Holds fire! Aeron #2 - Holds fire! Aeron #3 - Holds fire! Aeron #4 - Holds fire! End Phase: Wight - Through-armor critical chance in Right Arm: rolled 5, no critical hits sustained! Sun Spider (Player) - Must pass a 7+ consciousness test: rolled 5, fails! - Through-armor critical chance in Right Torso: rolled 10, 2 critical hits sustained! - - Autocannon/10 (AP) ammo hit! - - XXL Engine hit! - Through-armor critical chance in Right Torso: rolled 4, no critical hits sustained! - Sun Spider suffers 10 damage in an ammo explosion to Rear Right Torso (3/8 armor remaining (2x Pilot Hits!))! Remaining damage vented harmlessly by Integral C.A.S.E.! Bearcat (Player) - Critical chance in Right Torso: rolled 6, no critical hits sustained! Wildcat (Player) - Critical chance in Center Torso: rolled 5, no critical hits sustained! Physical Combat Phase: Black Heart (Player) - Kicks Javelin (4 base + 2 movement + [2] enemy movement = 8): rolled 12, hit Left Leg (3/10 armor remaining)! Wildcat (Player) - Punches Wight (4 base + 2 movement + 2 enemy movement = 8): rolled 8, hit Center Torso (0/18 armor, 9/11 structure remaining)! Crit! Hellcat (Player) - Punches Argus with Barrel Fist (3 base + 1 movement + 2 enemy movement + 1 smoke = 7): rolled 7, hit Left Torso (0/18 armor remaining)! Blackjack - Pushes Bearcat (4 base + 1 movement - 4 immobile target = 1): automatically hit! Argus - Kicks Hellcat (4 base + 2 movement + 0 enemy movement + 1 smoke = 7): rolled 8, hit Right Leg (0/29 armor, 6/16 structure remaining)! Armor stripped! Crit! Javelin - Punches Black heart (4 base + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement + 1 woods = 8): rolled 9, hit Center Torso (1/35 armor remaining)! Wight - Punches Wildcat (4 base + 2 movement + 1 enemy movement = 7): rolled 8, hit Head! Riot Shield redirects hit to Center Torso! (19/30 armor remaining)! End Phase: Javelin - Must pass a piloting test or fall (4 base + 1 leg damaged in melee = 5): rolled 8, succeeds! Wight - Critical chance in Center Torso: rolled 5, no critical hits sustained! Bearcat (Player) - Displaced into hex 1914! - Must pass a piloting test or fall (pilot unconscious): automatic failure! - Suffers 14 damage in the fall to Left Arm (17/24 armor remaining), Left Arm (12/24 armor remaining), Left Arm (7/24 armor remaining)! - Must pass a piloting test to avoid pilot damage (pilot unconscious): automatic failure! Pilot killed! Hellcat (Player) - Must pass a piloting test or fall (3 base + 1 leg damaged in melee = 4): rolled 3, fails on its front side facing hex 1622! - Suffers 7 damage in the fall to Left Arm (8/24 armor remaining (Armor reduced below half! TAC!)), Center Torso (33/36 armor remaining)! - Must pass a piloting test to avoid pilot damage (3 base + 1 leg damaged in melee + 2 avoiding pilot damage = 6): rolled 9, succeeds! - Through-armor critical chance in Left Arm: rolled 2, no critical hits sustained! Turn End Phase: Tactical Network Computer - Network capacity reduced, targeting computer reduced to basic level! Sun Spider - Must pass a 10+ test to avoid engine shutdown: Pilot unconscious, automatic failure! Hellcat (Player) - Must pass a 6+ test to avoid engine shutdown: rolled (10 + 1 Hot Dog = 11), succeeds! - Regains 1d6 (6) armor in Center Torso (35/36 armor remaining)! excess armor regen lost! - Regains 1d6 (1) armor in Left Torso (19/24 armor remaining)! - Regains 1d6 (2) armor in Right Arm (10/24 armor remaining)! - Regains 1d6 (1) armor in Left Arm (17/24 armor remaining)! - Regains 1d6 (1) armor in Right Leg (1/29 armor remaining)!   Map Link Player Status:      OpForce Status:       Primary Objectives - Kill Prince Ian Yorinaga Kurita-Davion (0/1) - Die a Glorious Death (1/5) Secondary Objectives - Protect the Cobalt Tarantula (failed!) - Protect Disruption Pylons (succeeded!) Special Rules SPA: Die Hard A unit with Die Hard is immune to guts rolls and never tests for forced withdrawal. Units with ‘Die Hard’ that withdraw or are otherwise forced off the map are captured by the enemy. SPA: Blood Stalker A unit with Blood Stalker may chose a target at the start of a turn. Receive a -1 bonus ToHit that target, and a +1 penalty to hit all other targets until the selected target is defeated. SPA: Demoralizer Instead of making a weapon attack, a Demoralizer may make an opposed test (Piloting vs. Guts) against one unit within 10 hexes. If the target fails the test, it enters forced withdrawal. SPA: Cluster Hitter +1 to cluster table rolls. A unit with cluster hitter may remain stationary to make an aimed attack with cluster table weapons. If the attack is successful all shots from the cluster attack strike the same location SPA: Hot Dog -1 bonus to avoid automatic shutdown due to heat SPA: Dodge +1 evasion bonus vs. melee attacks SPA: Tactical Genius Swift advice grants 1 allied unit ACE status as long as this unit is on the field and capable of communication. SPA: Antagonizer Instead of making a weapon attack, an Antagonizer may make an opposed test (Piloting vs. Guts) against one unit within 10 hexes. If the target fails the test, it engages the Antagonizer instead of its declared target. SPA: Sandblaster A unit with Sandblaster gains a +2 bonus to the cluster hit roll SPA: Serene Grace A unit with Serene Grace moves so precisely it expands its firing arc by one increment. It can fire front weapons into the arm arcs, and arm weapons into the rear arcs before taking a torso-twist into account. SPA: Melee Specialist A melee specialist receives a -1 bonus to hit in Melee SPA: Forward Observer A forward observer may spot for indirect fire and attack a target in the same turn with no penalty Tactical Network Computer The TacNet Computer is a targeting computer than gains abilities the more units there are attached to the network. At 1-2 functioning units, a TacNet Computer provides no benefit. At 3-4 functioning units, a TacNet Computer functions as a basic targeting computer. At 5-6 functioning units, a TacNet Computer functions as an advanced targeting computer. Additionally, networked units receive a non-stacking -1 Crossfire bonus to hit any unit another member of their network has already attacked. Shattered Armor Undamaged sections of shattered armor resist all damage types. Damaged shattered armor functions as laser reflective armor, resisting energy damage. Unstable Armor Undamaged sections of unstable armor resist all damage types. Damaged unstable armor functions as kinetic resistant armor, resisting kinetic damage. Explosive Armor Undamaged sections of explosive armor resist all damage types. Damaged unstable armor functions as ablative-reactive armor, resisting explosive damage. Molten Armor Undamaged sections of molten armor resist all damage types. Molten armor regenerates damage as the carrying ‘Mech’s heat rises. At 6 points of heat, a ‘Mech with molten armor regains 1d6 armor in a random damaged location. At 16 heat, a ‘Mech with molten armor regains 1d6 armor in all damaged locations. At 26 heat, a ‘Mech with molten armor regains 6 armor in all damaged locations. A ‘Mech with molten armor does not gain bonus heat dissipation and cannot fully restore damaged armor, but has a chance to regain 1 point of armor even if all the armor on a section is depleted. ECM Mode: Reinforcements Disruption As long as the Cobalt Tarantula remains within 6 hexes of an undamaged Disruption Pylon, enemy reinforcements are prevented from entering the map. Orders Due: Any Time On Saturday! PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 02:45 on Jan 30, 2020 |
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That's one Wobbie down, and it looks like another is poised to join him next turn.
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on the one hand i want goon lance to win, on the other, gently caress the wobbies
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What's the movement cost for going up a hill? Also we've had some awful luck with head hits. I'm just going to have to try and keep moving and pray for a gauss headcap before my entire mech explodes.
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Remember, die Shiny AND Chrome.
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PoptartsNinja posted:I did not expect this mission to be this hard on player pilots. I did nerf pilot toughness a little but I can't remember the last time player pilots were in serious danger of being killed before their 'Mechs. I may downgrade ammo explosions to a single pilot hit after this mission. I think it has more to do with the number of enemies vs players, with turn based games, the side that has the most turns tends to come out ahead because the odds of rolling high is statically in favor for that side even when handicapped; pretty sure it's called action economy. You had them out gunned and outnumbered right out of the gate, but the all the reinforcements pushed everything disproportionately to one side.
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hooman posted:What's the movement cost for going up a hill? +1 MP per height you are going up
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PoptartsNinja posted:I did not expect this mission to be this hard on player pilots. I did nerf pilot toughness a little but I can't remember the last time player pilots were in serious danger of being killed before their 'Mechs. I may downgrade ammo explosions to a single pilot hit after this mission. This round's machines were especially tough which gives more chances for freak accidents. Our lab grown hamburger experiment took a number of head hits and 2 falls to get that way, not just an freak explosion from what was otherwise a zombie.
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Really though, the reinforcement was not a factor- they mostly haven't even fired until this turn. I think 80% of the fast fold is just dice headshots, and those tanks being giant brick shithouses of armor that we couldn't blast past with the Cobalt Tarantula's slow movent. The other portion I think is mismatched speeds on our parts- it's one thing if we're all 5/8/5 with masc heavies, but a mixed speed Lance is way more vulnerable to getting separated and being unable to concentrate fire. (To be clear I'm not giving ptn a hard time about this, I think the scenario is awesome. I'm just sorta sad a rad as gently caress mech like the Bearcat only really got 3-4 turns of action to show off before going down pretty ignominiously.)
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dis astranagant posted:This round's machines were especially tough which gives more chances for freak accidents. That is a good point. Even with the caps on how much armor they can regenerate the molten armor 'Mechs can still soak an incredible amount of damage. PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 02:16 on Jan 30, 2020 |
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I'm still rooting for the player's achievements but PoptartsNinja posted:Bearcat (Player)  It rocks how this fight has descended into a giant brawl. Curious about the giant spider though; will it burst open to unleash a horde of baby spiders suddenly? Actually, what happened with the Jav and Wight? Chronojam fucked around with this message at 02:31 on Jan 30, 2020 |
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Chronojam posted:Actually, what happened with the Jav and Wight? Whoops. The answer was nothing.
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Chronojam posted:I'm still rooting for the player's achievements but Think of it this way: Now they can't be taken alive.
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Dropping pilot health from 6 to 5 probably didn't help any, but at the same time a player isn't particularly likely to wake-up if they need an 11.
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As for the machinegun crit thing, I would let them be good.
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Zaodai posted:I hold no ill-will to the players themselves, but I'm glad the Wobbies aren't just having a traditional "players steamroll the mission" run of it. Lose, you daft religious bastards! I mean I completely understand where you're coming from but I'd be lying if I said waiting a couple of years for a mission and having half the thread go "I hope you eat it you fucks" wasn't a little discouraging. Like, sometimes you lose, and that's fine, but c'mon. Mind, I might feel differently if I didn't also feel like I haven't done a great job pulling my weight real well in this mission but c'est la guerre. Anyways I'm in full-on "gently caress it I'mma at least get a kill on that goddamn Argus before I die so I'm taking someone to Wobbie Hell with me" mode
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Don't worry, you've got me and my army of no-name posters at your back. Shed the blood of the Prince and it will be our first step to finally scrubbing the Clan mess from the game.
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:I mean I completely understand where you're coming from but I'd be lying if I said waiting a couple of years for a mission and having half the thread go "I hope you eat it you fucks" wasn't a little discouraging. Like, sometimes you lose, and that's fine, but c'mon. It doesn't bother me in this case at least because I get it that we're not our characters, and i think ptn has consciously not done a bunch of pov writing from our pilots, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't just a bit disappointed with our dice luck. If we were playing some of the other characters that have been really well written and turned in to thread favorites I'd definitely feel differently.
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I have no strong feelings about this plot inasfar as it should succeed or fail. That said, with no hard feelings, it's really refreshing to see Goonlance not just trample all over the hapless OpFor for 15 turns like it feels like the last few games have been.
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:I mean I completely understand where you're coming from but I'd be lying if I said waiting a couple of years for a mission and having half the thread go "I hope you eat it you fucks" wasn't a little discouraging. I will be taking this into account.
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Gwaihir posted:It doesn't bother me in this case at least because I get it that we're not our characters, and i think ptn has consciously not done a bunch of pov writing from our pilots, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't just a bit disappointed with our dice luck. Oh absolutely. The dice have not been kind, and that ain't in anyone's control. I'm just saying there's definitely a part of me thinking "quit cheering when I fail, you assholes!" Heh. But I can take solace in the fact that Carlos Marik is still alive and still awesome and we helped make that happen so that takes out a lot of sting. 
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I always want to see the players win. Largely because I think it gives PTN an excuse to deviate even more wildly from the really bad canon timeline. I don't know enough about the actual universe to have carryover stuff like "ugh wobbies/clanners bad" or whatever, I just like Clandads doing a pickup game against the neighbors. Basically I assume that anything PTN has presented as a mission is an option to really push stuff further from the norm and I like that.
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I, for one, am rooting for GoonLevelII. I used to run the Wobbie faction on Legends when the clans weren’t available, and retain a soft spot for the mad nuke-happy bastards with the cool cyborgs and advanced interfaces. It’s okay to be the villain, both of my opportunities in the old thread were against the Clans, and I wish you every success in your objectives. We, the thread, elected this mission. If we wanted an Archon or Coordinator dead we had our chance, but we chose the First Prince. Wipe him off the face of New Avalon.
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OTOH the players have won the overwhelming majority of missions across both threads (in fact I only remember one that the opfor won outright: the second mission of the first thread. Maybe a couple more that were only partial victories where the players held the field but failed a primary objective.) Having the players at serious risk of failure adds some tension that I feel has been largely missing from the narrative. I’m not so much rooting for these players in particular to lose after waiting two years for a go (although PTN’s fantastic writing has made me quite sympathetic towards the Prince) as just wanting players (in general) to lose occasionally.
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Wafflecopper posted:OTOH the players have won the overwhelming majority of missions across both threads (in fact I only remember one that the opfor won outright: the second mission of the first thread. Maybe a couple more that were only partial victories where the players held the field but failed a primary objective.) Having the players at serious risk of failure adds some tension that I feel has been largely missing from the narrative. I’m not so much rooting for these players in particular to lose after waiting two years for a go (although PTN’s fantastic writing has made me quite sympathetic towards the Prince) as just wanting players (in general) to lose occasionally. I think you mean the third here: the second was the Caballeros versus the Death Commandos, and while the Colonel’s wife didn’t get out of that one, it counted as a victory because they won the field. The third was one the one where the Clans first showed, and Steiner Rules dueling was invented (and led us on the wild ride we’ve had so far with Bondsman Caesar and Task Force Serpent in Kerenskye). I can also think of the first time REDACTED showed up against C* on the surface of the Dropship, and that vehicle only salvage mission PTN tried at the end of the last thread, which didn’t really go anywhere as ones that Goons outright lost.
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Jan 30, 2020 04:31
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Personally, I am pro-goonlevel because I want the enormous chaos and consequences to be even more so. Just plink the prince in the face with one of those gauss rifles and
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Jan 30, 2020 04:36
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I have a feeling the different variables that have been in the last several political votes might start showing results after this, which intrigues me.
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Jan 30, 2020 04:41
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Defiance Industries posted:I have a feeling the different variables that have been in the last several political votes might start showing results after this, which intrigues me. ^^
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Jan 30, 2020 04:42
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:I mean I completely understand where you're coming from but I'd be lying if I said waiting a couple of years for a mission and having half the thread go "I hope you eat it you fucks" wasn't a little discouraging. Like, sometimes you lose, and that's fine, but c'mon. We're not necessarily out of this yet, but the odds are very long, and I'm likely going down this turn or next, just from the sheer numbers of mechs that will be shooting at me. At 4/6 and with AC20's you're likely to be cut down before you get to within useful range of the battlemaster. Especially with Narsham being Antagonised (unlucky) and knocked out (unlucky twice) now in the backline, the sunspider was our best hope of hurting the Battlemaster by firing from up close and spotting for Sheep Dodger's LRMs while I drew fire by Looking Threatening With Gauss TM. I'll be trying to find somewhere to stand where the battlemaster can't deny line of sight, and firing with gauss again this turn. GG Narsham and Gwaihir. I thought you both played well 
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Jan 30, 2020 05:00
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hooman posted:We're not necessarily out of this yet, but the odds are very long, and I'm likely going down this turn or next, just from the sheer numbers of mechs that will be shooting at me. At 4/6 and with AC20's you're likely to be cut down before you get to within useful range of the battlemaster. Oh I have wholly abandoned any hope of getting any attacks off on the Battlemaster, I did that around turn 4 when it became apparent that the mission target wasn't moving and I was slow as hell with short-ranged weaponry. My plan rapidly became "gently caress around in the backfield so that maybe, just maybe, some of the reinforcements have to take a turn or two paying attention to me and give the rest of you a chance to close ground." And I've gotta say, Molten Armor has done a lot to keep me up and moving at least two turns past I expected to be mission-killed. Luckily our victory objective also includes "die like a badass" and I have faith we're all gonna accomplish that.
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I'll be honest and say I was rooting against the goons more than I initially wanted to admit because we've been following some of the major characters in the PTNverse for literal years at this point and I'm a bit invested in them.
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I think that its about having a good time and making a good showing; and PTN is more than fair about drawing a line where if someone didn't get a chance to make a difference, they get another round. (like some early eliminations we've seen) I know its different when you're in the driver's seat, but I almost feel like the goonlance showings have been (a little, forgivably) too on-point for the last few missions. Its just a hint refreshing to see things not going smoothly, but i also think it was innately set up like a boss rush/arena where you've got to get the objective before you get swarmed, and it was a deliberately different styling, not overtuning enemies that contributed to a bad turn. Personally, this is one where I'm hoping the defenders win, so that comstar can eat rude stuff and throw wrenches in their plans! Edit: at the same time, for heroes to shine, there need to be villians to struggle against. If the prince makes it, I'm already wondering what the speech is going to be like. TheParadigm fucked around with this message at 05:47 on Jan 30, 2020 |
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hooman posted:We're not necessarily out of this yet, but the odds are very long, and I'm likely going down this turn or next, just from the sheer numbers of mechs that will be shooting at me. At 4/6 and with AC20's you're likely to be cut down before you get to within useful range of the battlemaster. I had a feeling this was going to be the Sun Spider’s last round, but I did expect to take about three times as much fire in the process of getting dropped, not two shots and another head hit followed by a double pilot hit when the ammo went off. Firing uselessly on top of that thanks to the Antagonizer was just icing on the cake. I do look forward to the day when I’m not playing a Blakist. In retrospect, it was when the Opforce started destroying pylons and we ignored them that things started to go wrong, although given the terrible luck associated with the Tarantula it might not have made much difference in any case. I invite someone with more time to do the math on the number of headshots against us vs headshots we landed on the Opforce.
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Narsham posted:I invite someone with more time to do the math on the number of headshots against us vs headshots we landed on the Opforce. That way lies madness. My thread debut was coming in as a sub and eating a CERPPC to the head: Headcaps happen, there is little edifying or comforting to be found in asking why 2 per cent chances come up when there were over forty potential enemy rolls for it this turn alone. Besides, one headcap with the right weapon on the Prince and everything swings massively back towards GoonLII.
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