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Posted: 7/18/2009 12:53:48 PM EDT

I have never heard such a loud noise followed by such an eerie silence.

Negligent Discharge at the Salem VA gunshow. It happened two rows over directly behind me, about 40 feet away. Some guy that was working on guns was changing the buttstock on an HK91 .308 rifle when BOOOOM. For some reason everytime something wierd/crazy happens I immediately look at my watch/phone to see what time it is. It said 2:17 p.m..

Everybody dropped down about a foot then all eyes were on him as he went down behind his table. The way he went down it looked like he was shot but apparantly the bullet went straight down through the table into the concrete. That shot concrete up into his forhead and made him drop down.

State troopers surrounded him then he started packing up.

If it would have happened 60 seconds(mabey less) earlier I would have only been about eight feet away. I had stood right there at the table across from his for about ten minutes filling out paper work. I handed it to the guy I was dealing with and then B-lined it over to a table with MRE/Moutian House stuff. I walked up to the table and as soon as I said hello, the SHTF.

Posted: 7/18/2009 12:56:48 PM EDT

[#1]

what an idiot...stupid is as stupid does

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Posted: 7/18/2009 12:59:11 PM EDT

[#2]

Thank God no one was hurt.

Posted: 7/18/2009 12:59:15 PM EDT

[#3]

people are fucking stupid.

Posted: 7/18/2009 1:01:41 PM EDT

[#4]

Posted: 7/18/2009 1:03:48 PM EDT

[#5]

Damn this gun show ND is way too common. Surprised people don't get shot more during them.

Posted: 7/18/2009 1:04:15 PM EDT

[#6]

.308 at that

Posted: 7/18/2009 1:04:52 PM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:
Thank God no one was hurt.

+1 !

NDs happen. There but for the grace of God go I (and maybe a bit of diligence).

Posted: 7/18/2009 1:05:14 PM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:

Damn this gun show ND is way too common. Surprised people don't get shot more during them.

At least people are holding them in a safe direction?

Posted: 7/18/2009 1:05:28 PM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:

Damn this gun show ND is way too common. Surprised people don't get shot more during them.

+1

All it's going to take is a kid getting hurt because someone wasn't paying attention and they will be gone forever.

Posted: 7/18/2009 1:06:07 PM EDT

[#10]

Dam glad ever1 is okie!

Posted: 7/18/2009 1:09:14 PM EDT

[#11]

Dumbass.

Posted: 7/18/2009 1:10:14 PM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Damn this gun show ND is way too common. Surprised people don't get shot more during them.

+1

All it's going to take is a kid getting hurt because someone wasn't paying attention and they will be gone forever.

At least one kid has been killed by an ND at a gun show.

Posted: 7/18/2009 1:12:09 PM EDT

[#13]

You also have to watch out for people fondling guns as they can insert a round in the chamber to fuck with people...

Posted: 7/18/2009 1:12:53 PM EDT

[#14]

Damn.

Posted: 7/18/2009 1:14:12 PM EDT

[#15]

I hope the show operator bans that guy for life.

On the same subject wasn't there some story a few years ago about anti-gun people sneaking ammo in to gun shows and secretly loading guns?

Posted: 7/18/2009 1:16:46 PM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:

I hope the show operator bans that guy for life.

On the same subject wasn't there some story a few years ago about anti-gun people sneaking ammo in to gun shows and secretly loading guns?

If I saw somebody doing that the beat down wouldn't be pretty.

Posted: 7/18/2009 1:17:15 PM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:

I hope the show operator bans that guy for life.

On the same subject wasn't there some story a few years ago about anti-gun people sneaking ammo in to gun shows and secretly loading guns?

Motherfuckers

Posted: 7/18/2009 1:17:31 PM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:
people are fucking stupid.

Handle enough firearms, and you'll do something stupid, too. That's why there are three safety rules, not just one. He missed, one, probably two, but not three.

Posted: 7/18/2009 1:18:16 PM EDT

[#19]

He should have been arrested, or at the very least given a massive fine.

Posted: 7/18/2009 1:19:53 PM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:
I hope the show operator bans that guy for life.

On the same subject wasn't there some story a few years ago about anti-gun people sneaking ammo in to gun shows and secretly loading guns?

Interesting. I don't know.

Posted: 7/18/2009 1:23:01 PM EDT

[#21]

Quoted:

Quoted:
people are fucking stupid.

Handle enough firearms, and you'll do something stupid, too. That's why there are three safety rules, not just one. He missed, one, probably two, but not three.

Not saying people are stupid except for me. I understand it was an accident, but I have nothing to say in defense for this guy.

Just saying, it's hard to imagine getting a rifle all the way into a gun show without visually inspecting the chamber so much as once.

Posted: 7/18/2009 1:23:09 PM EDT

[#22]

Quoted:
You also have to watch out for people fondling guns as they can insert a round in the chamber to fuck with people...

Not if you have a zip tie thru the barrel i see that quite often on hand guns.

Posted: 7/18/2009 1:25:03 PM EDT

[#23]

Glad no one was hurt. Wow, that must've been loud. At the local range, someone "accidently" fired a 5.56 round ~15 seconds after the ranger master called a cease fired and I wasn't wearing my hearing protection.

Posted: 7/18/2009 1:31:33 PM EDT

[#24]

Loosing a round of .308 into a crowded arena would be very, very bad.
Even into the floor, a ricochet or the spalling could cause a lot of damage.

Bad scene.

Posted: 7/18/2009 1:32:55 PM EDT

[#25]

Some gun nut felt like he just needed to be armed at the gun show

Posted: 7/18/2009 1:35:28 PM EDT

[#26]

Quoted:

Quoted:

people are fucking stupid.

Handle enough firearms, and you'll do something stupid, too.

I'd tell you how fucking stupid that statement is, but I don't waste time refuting this kind of idiocy any longer.

Posted: 7/18/2009 1:36:57 PM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Damn this gun show ND is way too common. Surprised people don't get shot more during them.

+1

All it's going to take is a kid getting hurt because someone wasn't paying attention and they will be gone forever.

that has already happend a couple of years ago

Posted: 7/18/2009 1:42:16 PM EDT

[#28]

I was in the line today to check in guns at the gun show this morning. The guy in front of me had a lever action rifle that was loaded to capacity. The cop unloaded it, put the cartridges in a plastic cup, and let him in.

Posted: 7/18/2009 1:44:58 PM EDT

[#29]

Quoted:
I was in the line today to check in guns at the gun show this morning. The guy in front of me had a lever action rifle that was loaded to capacity. The cop unloaded it, put the cartridges in a plastic cup, and let him in.

Posted: 7/18/2009 1:51:13 PM EDT

[#30]

Oh shit that sucks

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Posted: 7/18/2009 1:53:46 PM EDT

[#31]

Quoted:

Quoted:
people are fucking stupid.

Handle enough firearms, and you'll do something stupid, too.

I'd tell you how fucking stupid that statement is, but I don't waste time refuting this kind of idiocy any longer.

denial of the truth makes complacency.

people get tired, distracted... shit happens. It's how you have trained to prepare for the shit that makes the difference. ALWAYS pointed in a safe direction. You shoot enough it most likely WILL happen to you one day. i have had one, many shooters i trained and competed with have had them, some more than once. The difference is they ALL practiced enough common sence that no one was injured.

Posted: 7/18/2009 1:53:58 PM EDT

[#32]

Glad no one was hurt.

Always check chamber when handling a firearm, dddduuuuuhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: 7/18/2009 2:01:02 PM EDT

[#33]

A cop had an ND at a Nashville show a few years ago. He was showing his pop gun to someone and he pulled the trigger. Projectile went into a case of SKS' under a vendors table.
Funny to see a cop escorted out of a show.

Posted: 7/18/2009 2:01:37 PM EDT

[#34]

I fired one 20 gauge shell outdoors without any hearing protection once. I can't imagine how loud a .308 round indoors would be.

Posted: 7/18/2009 2:04:38 PM EDT

[#35]

Quoted:

I hope the show operator bans that guy for life.

On the same subject wasn't there some story a few years ago about anti-gun people sneaking ammo in to gun shows and secretly loading guns?

Sounds more like an urban legend, but you never know.

I would be REALLY interested to hear about that, if there's anything to it.

Posted: 7/18/2009 2:08:26 PM EDT

[#36]

Wow, I heard a .22 ND at a gunshow I can't imagine what .308 was like.

The one I heard, the guy was coming in the door and to show his pistol was empty he pointed it at the ceiling and pulled the trigger.

The MC got on the PA and said, "Folks, don't be an idiot like this guy, he's going to jail!"

Posted: 7/18/2009 3:20:18 PM EDT

[#37]

Zip tie through barrel or magazine well. Problem solved.

Posted: 7/18/2009 3:23:23 PM EDT

[#38]

Quoted:
Zip tie through barrel or magazine well. Problem solved.

Thats what they do here. Also through the cylinder in any revolvers.

Posted: 7/18/2009 3:57:51 PM EDT

[#39]

ND at a gunshow in VA?

Color me surprised...

Way too common when I lived there.

The three times I went to the Richmond Speedway/Fairgrounds Gunshow all had NDs.

On one instance it was twice in one show:
The one I remember the most was a dealer who had a loaded bolt-action on his table.
A potential customer had his finger on the trigger as he picked it up and the rifle discharged.
The .270 took out two very expensive shotguns on the next dealer's table and I took out a stack of
gun boxes as I dove underneath the closest table.

My buddy laughed his ass off at me until about thirty minutes later when yet another dealer
decided to show someone his CCW piece and deftly put a round into the ceiling.

Time to leave.

To top it off this was a show where they couldn't sell ammo inside the main building.
Imagine the carnage that it would have been were it otherwise.

The Hampton Gunshow was pretty dangeous also. A couple there too.

The best there was a dealer showing a customer a revolver that had been on a theft prevention loop.
Handing it to the customer, the customer pulling a live round out of his pocket to see if the ammo he
had at home 'would fit', sighting it on one of the overhead lights. The dealer managed to take
it away from the customer but also managed to fire it into the bleachers as soon as he had it in
his hands.

BTW: Do they still have some of those shady gunshows at a showplace out in the middle of nowhere?
IRRC it was out west of Richmond.

Posted: 7/18/2009 4:02:18 PM EDT

[#40]

Pics of mk3? I love mine!

Posted: 7/18/2009 4:06:08 PM EDT

[#41]

Quoted:

Zip tie through barrel or magazine well. Problem solved.

They do that here––even CCW weapons must be unloaded and tied shut. Then some people complain about the gun show organizers being anti-gun.

Can't win, apparently.

Posted: 7/18/2009 4:11:24 PM EDT

[#42]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Zip tie through barrel or magazine well. Problem solved.

They do that here––even CCW weapons must be unloaded and tied shut. Then some people complain about the gun show organizers being anti-gun.

Can't win, apparently.

I don't finger fuck my CCW or tell people I CCW. There would be no zip tie in my CCW as it stays holstered and concealed.

Posted: 7/18/2009 4:23:14 PM EDT

[#43]

And people bitch about the show zip-tie-ing guns as they come into the show's in VA

Posted: 7/18/2009 4:23:43 PM EDT

[#44]

Quoted:
.308 at that

Posted: 7/18/2009 4:24:44 PM EDT

[#45]

The first gunshow at the then new Expo Center in Fredericksburg, Virginia was very close to being the last as an unknown man picked up and shouldered a rifle chambered in .308 Win., aiming from basically one corner of the very crowded show to diagonally opposite corner, he promptly shot a hole through the roof of the far corner. I was maybe 30 feet away at the time and as the OP stated all in attendance ducked about a foot and the silence was perfect. Within a minute at least a dozen plainclothed and uniformed officers were at the dealers table. However the customer who fired the weapon immediately tossed it into the dealers hands and fled, never to be seen again. His get away will always strike me as strange. I was close enough to look right at the table it came from and know one was running away. There was plenty of speculation that it was a intentional act.

Posted: 7/18/2009 4:29:14 PM EDT

[#46]

one reason I wear a vest to the gun show and range.

heard a blackpowder go off at a fun show.holy shiite!

Posted: 7/18/2009 4:31:23 PM EDT

[#47]

Play stupid games...

Posted: 7/18/2009 4:36:50 PM EDT

[#48]

A couple of years ago I was in the same room as a Home Guard soldier who had a ND with a G3. It was a blank but the blank firing adapter had been removed so the wooden projectile hit the wall. It was loud as hell and no-one in the room had hearing protection on.

Some people are too stupid to handle guns.