My life the past three months, continued...

I am a college graduate of Northern Arizona University in Flagstaff,
Arizona. My major was Sociology. I graduated in December 2002. Between
December 2000 and March 2003, I was engaged to be married to a woman
who turned out to be a narsassistic, conceited, psychotic headcase.

After breaking up with my psychotic headcase of a fiance in March, I
was admitted to a psychiatric ward on 03/03/03 for suicidal tendencies
and ideations (whatever, can't spell today). I overdosed on 1600mg of
Luvox which...didn't do much (made me very tired, sort of drunk, etc.)
I wanted to suicide properly and the darn Luvox didn't work. Damn
Luvox.

Anyway, I spent three days at Scottsdale Behavorial Health Center in
Scottsdale, Arizona. This facility houses SMI patients and CDs. Not a
bad place, the food was decent, and the caregivers were top notch.

I met a female college student who overdosed on Tylonel (because her
boyfriend cheated on her). She had her own problems, but she seemed
much nicer than my dipstick of a fiance. So she and I got along well,
and she more or less convinced me to break up with my fiance (which I
wanted to anyway). So I broke up with my fiance on March 6th, and
spent the next two or three weeks in and out of the same psychiatric
facility for suicical tendencies.

On March 29th, I received an e-mail from my now ex-fiance saying that
"it was impossible" for a future relationship with her, and that she
"didn't see a future for us" (well, duh). This was obvious so I just
deleted it.

I spent April and May of 2003 missing my fiance (even though I thought
she was a nutcase) and thinking of going back to her. She was my first
love; I learned everything a man could learn from a woman from her.
And I missed the cuddling, the nice conversations, and the love
making. God, I missed the love making.

I got a job over at Pier 1 Imports in Phoenix (near the mall) around
May 9th or 10th. This was cool, well, for two reasons: a) It was next
to Best Buy and b) All the hotties that shopped there. I needed a
girlfriend and Pier 1 Imports was a likely way to find one. At $6.50
an hour, it wasn't much of a job for a technically-minded,
computer-literate college graduate, but it was better than "Do you
want fries with that?". Reminded that the job market nationwide was in
the toilet, I took the job part time for 25 or so hours per week.

On Memorial Day (May 26th), I got into an argument with my mother and
father (but mostly my father) because they wanted to know why people
from #rgvc were calling their house at 9:30pm at night. It turns out
some prick named Mercury Hess snagged my dad's phone number and
address off the internet and began calling just to be a prick.

Well, anyway, long and short of it, my father and I got into a
screaming match, and I told my father (who I have disliked all of my
life) to "Fuck off". This made him mad, so IN FRONT OF my mother, he
punches me hard in the face. Yeah, I deserved it, but I hated the guy
anyway.

So I start yelling at him and told him repeatedly, "You're going to
fucking jail, bitch!". I wanted that son-of-a-bitch in handcuffs and
behind bars for that bullshit. I understand I'm 26 and it's his
property, and he was letting me stay there for a short while while I
found my own place, but he shouldn't have decked me anyway (even if I
did deserve it). A grown man does not punch his own son. Period.

So he disconnects the telephone (thinking I'm going to call the cops)
and I wait until he reconnects the telephone and I dial 9-1-1. I tell
them my father has punched me, and they send over two police officers.

They all interview us, and I'm waiting outside with one of the
officers while he interviews me. He seems cool, has a mustache, and
can probably drink more than his share of beers. The other guy, an
ex-marine, seemed a bit of a hard ass. I don't know. He seemed very
stern and rigid.

So the ex-marine officer comes out and they determine that "no one is
going to jail". He then lectures me for 10 minutes about yelling at my
parents, how I reminded him of Dustin Hoffman, and how he wanted my
"ass in the back of his squad car" for some form of Disorderly
Conduct.

I'm thinking, okay, this is fucked up. My father punches me (because I
yelled at him) and the cop wanted to arrest ME (but my parents refused
to press charges). So he gives me an ultimatum: I can go to jail for
tresspass (which is also bullshit) or I can stay the night in a motel
and come back tomorrow afternoon. No charges would then be filed.
Obviously, I chose the motel.

I then moved out of my parents house the following day and now live
over near my work.

This has been the past three months. This has sucked.

Sincerely,

Paul Panks
dun...@yahoo.com

Tim

"Paul Allen Panks" <ppa...@juno.com> wrote in message
news:cb0ed86a.0306...@posting.google.com...

: On Memorial Day (May 26th), I got into an argument with my mother and

You included the phone number when you posted the last chapter of your
idiotic biography.

Message-ID: <cb0ed86a.03052...@posting.google.com>

Don't blame Mercury for your own stupidity.

Man, if SHE'S the nutcase of the two. . .

~~~
eBay stuff I'm selling:
http://tinyurl.com/304q

Top quality arcade reproduction art:
http://arcaderenovations.com

My Atari 2600 & 5200 collections:
http://members.aol.com/rushpage/5200nh.htm
http://members.aol.com/rushpage/nh2600.htm

You posted the number yourself, on your "This is interesting..." post.

Bummer... Try a bit harder to control anger.. you seem to want to vent
on people (your ex and your dad) - not all the fault lies with the other
parties.

To Paul,

While I agree with metallik about your anger, I am impressed that you
seem to be keepin' on keepin' on with life, hard as you often find it. I
hope you continue your therapy, and that you occasionally let us in on how
you're doing (the grumps to the contrary notwithstanding :-) ).

However, I also agree with those who have noted that you may have opened
yourself to abuse by posting your phone number and address. It's sometimes
hard to know how open to be with others, in "real life" and on-line. I'm
sure you've learned from this something about self-protection. Perhaps you
could talk with someone you trust about other ways to balance being open
with being safe.

I continue to wish you well, and pray for your success in your
continuing struggle to be sane. It is impressive.

Tom McDonald

A grown man does not feel sorry for himself, puts his worries behind him and
continues with his life after every setback.

What would you have liked your parents to do? Give you a roadmap on how to
lead your life? Damn man, freedom does not mean "everything's gonna be
allright", freedom means "you have the chance to do things right". If you
fuck up your life because you won't take responsibility for yourself, it's
your own fault. Period. Nothing more to it. Now turn your back to the past
and try again, just like everyone else does. You're not better than anybody
else, your life is not the most important thing on this earth. Even you will
die of old age. The one thing you want to avoid in life is to die with
hundreds of dreams that are unfilfilled because you were to preoccupied with
your past during your whole life. The past is gone, it's not gonna come
back. Good times come and go, and if they're gone, create new good times.
Don't linger on old good times. Reminisce, but don't linger.

And don't bother with telling your life story to anyone. Everybody has a
life story, everybody gets their share of good times and bad times, and
people will only think "So what? That's not worse than my life.".

PeterV

blah blah blah everything is someone elses fault, nobody loves me, I want
attention blah blah

Quit your whining and get your shit sorted out FFS.

The only thing I read in your words is that you were scared shitless of
leaving your elderly house and having to stand on your own two feet. Well,
getting to stand on your own two feet isn't easy, but everybody's gotta go
through it. Even the people who stay with their parents their whole life.
When their parents die of old age, they too are forced to stand on their own
two feet, just like everybody else.

Damn man, you've got a job, you can stand on your own two feet, you even
found a house within *3 goddamn weeks*! Stop complaining and feeling sorry
for yourself. Kick yourself in the ass, tell yourself to shut up, go live
your life, and don't bother with trying to find the meaning of life: there
is no meaning to it. Well, possibly having and raising kids... At least
that's what Nature wants any living being to do. But having kids is the
easiest thing in the world, and for *raising* kids, you're already on the
right track: you've got a job and a house, and you found out in time that
you and your former fiance don't fit together. What more do you want? You
want security? *Nobody* has security, security is an illusuon. If security
were true, nothing unexpected would happen to anyone. Well, for one having
nothing unexpected happen to you would mean that your life is going to be
the dullest experience ever, and you could just as well kill yourself
straight away. For two, 'unexpected' does not necessarily mean something
negative.

Dammit man, somebody put you on this earth, you might as well make something
out of it.

PeterV

Hey Paul,

It sounds like you have made some real progress. Of course there are
setbacks, but you are dealing with them pretty well.

For the rest of you who responded without a shred of compassion, Paul posts
on T.O. sometimes, and it seems to be a therapeutic or venting thing.
Before you start giving him a raft of trouble about what he writes, why not
Google up some past posts of his and look at the history. If you think he
hasn't been getting on with life, you're sadly mistaken. And you need to be
a little less quick off the mark to condemn someone who is dealing with more
serious problems than you are ever likely to face.

Chris

This story mentions overdosing on Tylenol. On the tiny chance this
mention sticks in someone's head and years down the road they get
depressed and contemplate suicide via Tylenol overdose: DON'T. It
almost certainly won't kill you. It will destroy your liver leading to
very nasty consequences. Not that trying to kill yourself is ever a
good thing, but this is perhaps the absolute worst possible common way
to attempt it.

<snip>

Reminds me of the guy who tried to kill himself by jumping off the railroad
bridge across the San Pedro River outside of Benson, Arizona. Anyone who
knows the San Pedro knows that nowehere along its 150 mile length is it more
than about 8 inches deep. So this guy doesn't drown, of course, but he does
get stuck up to his chest in mud. Two days later someone passing by hears
his moans and they dig him out.

You would have to take a lot of Tylenol to kill yourself, man.

Frank

<snip>

Paul is clearly mentally ill. Trying very hard (which he seems to
be doing) is just not sufficient.

--

Matt Silberstein TBC HRL OMM

We are not here to judge other people,
we are just here to be better than they are.

Got any other simplistic advice? Gonna solve all mental illnesses
with a victorian "Keep your chin up"?

[snip]

And while we are on the subject, avoid Tylenol et. al. and
alcohol. It is A Bad Thing.

...or will ever let anybody know I face.

PeterV

Ah, let me see if I understand this properly. If you have similar problems,
that gives you license to stop (or complain about) someone else dealing with
them in a way that helps them, but not you.

I didn't find that under any definition of "empathy".

Chris

PS: Unless I am badly mistaken about your social situation, no one forces
you to read Usenet posts.

Having problems of whatever kind doesn't belong to *this* newsgroup, unless
they are related to CBM computers.

Unless I'm badly mistaken the thematic classification of usenet groups serves
a certain purpose. This may not so obvious in this group with our two notoric
steamblowers, but that should be no excuse for anyone to dump their completely
off-topic blogging into here, no matter what illness they are suffering from.

And since you didn't understand Peter's point: In case you suffer, keep it
for yourself or tell it your counselor instead of publicly whining around
about how miserable your life is.

Especially not in completely unrelated groups.

Rainer

Since when are technical people empathetic? I don't know about the other
groups, but here in comp.sys.cbm, we're fairly technically-minded, which
means "figure out your problem domain and solve it".

--
White Flame (aka David Holz)
http://www.white-flame.com/
(spamblock in effect)

If the kid's got it comin' and is an adult - sure he does. :)

Very interesting quote. However, if you draw fond memories from the past, there
is nothing wrong with re-living them. But yes, you should not relive BAD
things.

http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/lcsboots
And here we go again, we know the start, we know the end
Masters of the scene
We've done it all before and now we're back to get some more
You know what I mean -ABBA

You had no business being in your parents house at 26 years old in the first
place.

Indeed it is not.

BULLSHIT. THOSE PEOPLE NEVER STAND ON THIER OWN FEET.

BULLSHIT AGAIN. If they inherit the house, they are on easy street and you know
it. If you own your own home free and clear, you've got it MADE. Period. Now,
if the parents are renting, then you are quite correct.

Ah, you must not know what "offtopic" means. One of the groups (if you
actually look at your headers) he posted this into is comp.sys.cbm.
Comp.sys.cbm is a (very) technical discussion newsgroup for computers
made by Commodore.

Now, personal issues like his have no place here and are _very_
offtopic. If he needs help then he needs to go somewhere else and find
it.

This has _nothing_ to do with "empathy".

Jason

--
E-mail #1: jkr[at]westol.com
E-mail #2: jk...@juno.com
(Use E-mail #1 for a quicker response.)
Web site : http://www.westol.com/~jkr/
--

So, you have a cure for schizophrenia or bipolar disorder? Millions of
people will thank you for the discovery.

Jesus Christ, I really thought this self-help claptrap about mental
illness went out in the nineteenth century. I shared a house with a
fellow once who was paranoid schizophrenic. Despite a will of iron, and
compliance with his meds, he could still go into a delusional state, and
what is worse, *he knew it was delusional at the time*; he just could
not control it.

It is about time that neo-Victorians realised that the world is *not*
controlled by strong-willed people, and that there *are* things outside
the control of ordinary and well-meaning people. This really pisses me
off.
--
John Wilkins
Some people are just dumb as wet chalk; this is a response to one

Having known people with serious mental problems, but lacking teh
ability to put it anywhere near as succintly, I'll just say "Me
too."

--Leon

P.S. Hey, psst, gamer d00dz, j00 4m 0wned, grow up now, plskthnx.

Sal,

Agreed, and reinforced. I have counseled many folks, a number of whom
have tried suicide. I have read studies about suicide, and spoken with many
psychiatrists and psychologist on the issue. I have been involved in more
than a dozen emergency calls from police and rescue where I had the
opportunity to talk with people planning suicide at that moment.

All of this has led me to the conclusion that most people who attempt
suicide change their minds soon after. The person who overdoses, especially
on OTC medications, is especially prone to this change of mind.

For this reason, acetominophen (the generic name for Tylenol), is, as
you say, "the absolute worst possible common way to attempt it". (I
personally would take away the qualifier "perhaps" that you used.)

Tylenol/acetominophen overdose will shut down your liver shortly after
you decide that you didn't really want to die after all. From a distance,
this is ironic. From close-up, it is tragic. From any point of view it is
stupid.

Tom McDonald

Frank,

NO! (Sorry for the caps, but this is important.)

There is a much smaller difference between a normal, therapeutic dose of
Tylenol/acetominophen and a potentially lethal overdose than for nearly any
other OTC drug.

While the initial overdose might not be lethal immediately, it often
leads to liver failure some time after the initial effects wear off. Liver
failure, for those who don't know, is quite often fatal. When not fatal, it
requires an extremely unpleasant and prolonged treatment to regain some
(often not all) liver function.

It's nasty, and it is easier than most folks think. While
Tylenol/acetominophen is relatively free of the side effects of other OTC
pain medication at normal dosages, overdosage is a true bitch.

Tom McDonald

Now lets not be so judgemental! With the economy the way it is, lots of
hard-working folks are finding themselves laid off. Many of these people live
"paycheck-to-paycheck" , and cannot find another job soon enough to continue
living on their own. Under those circumstances, I could understand being 26
(or 36) and living at home.

I, myself, am 26. I am fortunate enough to have a decent job and a fair amount
of savings, so I have no need to live at home. But many people are not as
fortunate as me.

Ivan

Would you mind telling me, in detail, about these delusional states? You may
Email me if you like but I would really be interested in hearing exactly what
his delusions were.

Agreed.

Agreed. But anyone lucky enough to have parents that will take them back in,
and then STUPID enough to tell your father to "Fuck Off" is beyond me. And that
man will - one day, maybe not for a long time - very much regret having spoken
to his father that way, trust me.

In article <20030604013549...@mb-m18.aol.com>, drsmith666
@aol.com says...

--
__
Chuck Whitby, the Intv-sama
Too Many Games
Buy - Sell - Trade
(484) 529-1449

Intellivision Gaming Network
http://intvgn.roarvgm.com

WHAT DOES "SAMA" MEAN? You never answered the question please.

I am in control, you are not. Therefore, I order you to stop off-topic
crossposting, and you are powerless to do anything but comply.

</jedi>

Nope, I understood perfectly, that some people have large objects inserted
into various spots that most of the rest of us would find uncomfortable.
This attempt to make oneself the iron-man also seems to lead to a pathetic
rigidity wrt Usenet posts and topicality. Unless it's different in c.s.c or
r.g.v.c, Panks puts out about 1 post every three months. If that bugs you,
killfile him. Killfile me, I enjoy it. But cut the guy some slack- he
isn't a net.kook like Ed Conrad who regurgiposts the same crapola 30 times,
all completely unchanged from 4 years ago or more. Learn the difference.

Chris

In article <20030604034733...@mb-m18.aol.com>, drsmith666
@aol.com says...

--

Chuck,

I am not sure what dictionary you may be basing your definition of
"sama" on, but "sama" is more accurately defined as "Mr./Mrs./Miss"
(depending on the person's gender). It is a more formal honorific
than the more typical "san". The best translation for "god" (note the
small "g") would be "kami". Anyhow, I still like your use of it.

[I studied Japanese language and culture for several years and taught
English over there for one year.]

In article <77e43741.03060...@posting.google.com>,
pringpr...@yahoo.com says...

--

<monotone> I will stop crossposting. I am powerless to do anything but
comply. </monotone>
--
John Wilkins
I am weak minded

The force be with you! ;-)

Ivan

This isn't the newsgroup you're looking for. ::waves hand:: Move along..

--
Jason

Dude, I've noticed that you post quite a bit. Almost 30+ posts a day,
to various groups with about a 50% signal to noise ratio. You have
strong opinions on things you've never experienced (eg. #RGVC, or at
least I've never seen you there). I wish I had the free time during
the day to make the kind of contribution to the sum of humanity that
you are making.

With the kind of effort you put to talking about abso-fucking-nothing
harnessed into something meaningful we could be reaching Jupiter by
2006. ;-)

Regards,
Rob S.
(Sutekh on #RGVC)

You'll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.

Which brings us nicely back on topic for talk.origins
--
John Wilkins
"And this is a damnable doctrine" - Charles Darwin, Autobiography

Learn something new every day here on t.o....

COOL!!!!!!!! I actually thought it meant like a Yogi or Swami from India or
something - at least that's what my mind conjured up but I didn't want to say
it till I knew for sure.

http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/lcsboots

"I am the strongest woman in the world!" - Chun Li, Street Fighter II

I picture you with your arms crossed in a lotus position hovering a few inches
off the ground with 2 INTV II's at your feet, and smoke from billowing incense
around you.

I was 27 when I left house. I had to finish school first. Left my parental
house as soon as I had a job and could afford my own house. Am I a wuss?

PeterV

No, you're not fortunate, unless you got everything thrown in your lap...

PeterV

The problem with mental ilnesses is that the people having it have a too
complicated look on life. It's not for nothing that it's mostly
*intelligent* people who get mental problems.

I'm of course not speaking of the people who get mental problems from
drinking or using drugs...

Actually, there are two choices in life: keep your chin up or kill yourself.
The latter is plain stupid, so actually you only have *one* choice.

PeterV

What I meant was that Paul has two choices:

- Deal with his problems this way and take the flack.
- Deal with his problems in a more constructive way and talk to people who
really care about him.

Empathy does not necessarily mean 'care about someone'.

PeterV

I have two friends who are schizophrenic (*friends*, not simply room-mates).
What would YOU want a schizophrenic to do? Sit in some corner, nursing his
sorrow? Or have him accept that he'll slip into a delusion once in a while,
but that it will also go over after some time?

Feeling sorry for oneself has *never* helped anyone.

PeterV

If I let you be in control, you really will be in control.

If I won't let you be in control, it does not mean that I am in control. I
will never know if it really is me who is in control or you, because you
might want me to fight it.

Being in control is *allways* a delusion.

An example: all those people who died in the WTC Towers on 9/11 thought they
were in control, especially the people higher up in rank. How deluded they
were...

Don't use the word 'control' as if it is something that really exists.

Now, you might think that I'm rambling, but is that really the truth? Do you
simply don't understand what I am saying and I'm just more intelligent than
you? And who is judging how intelligent you are: you yourself? Are you sure
you are not deluding yourself in that you think you are more intelligent
than you really are?

I'm not flaming you, I'm simply asking you to think about what I wrote here.
Maybe it will open your eyes about some things in life. In short, I am
holding a mirror in front of you, something people should do more often to
themselves.

PeterV

In article <20030606015628...@mb-m13.aol.com>, drsmith666
@aol.com says...

--

Hm, looking at my C64 keyboard there's a key clearly labeled with
'CONTROL'. And now you tell me CONTROL doesn't exist!? If it doesn't
exist, how should I enter control codes in a BASIC listing? ;o)

Ciao,
Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch

OMG, I'VE GOT A "CONTROL" KEY ON MY COMPUTER AS WELL, THIS IS GREAT!!!!

When you leave your house be very careful to lock all of the doors and
windows. We don't want anyone to slip in and take away your CONTROL key.
If that were to happen you would only have 8 colors left (unless you use
CHR$(x) codes to get the other 8 back.) ;-)

Best regards,

Sam Gillett aka Mars Probe @ Starship Intrepid 1-972-221-4088
Last 8-bit BBS in the Dallas area. Commodore lives!

You do not have a clue, do you? If you put yourself in the way of a
little education on the subject of mental illness, you'd more than likely
realize how erroneous and simplistic your post was.

It's not too late. Take a little time to educate yourself. It might
well save you from making a fool of yourself in real life.

Tom McDonald

Paul Panks has taken the route of which you seem to most approve. I,
for one, am impressed with both his struggle, and with his openness about
it. I find it refreshing that someone with his difficulties, and is coping
pretty well with them, _very_ occasionally lets us in on his life. In terms
of off-topic posts, I think a once-a-quarter post barely counts. (Think of
the numerous "puns" posts, and the creationist plagerized regurgiposts in
this regard.)

I'm glad to hear that you have some friends with schizophrenia. In a
previous post, you appeared to me to be pig-ignorant of mental illness. I
wrote a post to you about that. I was, it turns out, wrong about that.
Sorry.

Tom McDonald

>Would you all do us a favor and STOP CROSS POSTING THIS CRAP INTO
>REC.GAMES.VIDEO.CLASSIC Christ...

And, you could do the other two newsgroups a favor by not quoting 40 lines
to make a two line comment. Thank you! >:-p

I hate to tell you Paul, but you seem to forget that you posted your
phone number to the channel after a fair ammount of heckling from the
guys to prove a point (I don't remember what, but it was rather
stupid) two days before your ban from the #rgvc. Having called the
number posted, I was hung up on by someone who you claimed was your
'driver' (who I now assume was your father or brother) because it was
too late to call.

Don't instantly assume that Merc is a prick; however, assume that
you're rather stupid since you were the one who posted your phone
number to an internet chat room and then conviently 'forgot' once you
were banned for stupidity.

Also, try and grow up and don't think that the cops are going to come
to your rescue after being punched by your father. Yes, it may be
wrong on some levels, but I'm sure that you had it coming after
watching all of the bullshit that has been spewed from your keyboard.

May you keep this on the right list. This is comp.sys.cbm that you cross-
posted to. Thank You. I do not care.

Stop crossposting to comp.sys.cbm. Quit posting this stuff here. It is
simple. Make sure comp.sys.cbm is not in the newgroup: text box/field in
your newsgroup reader. That is simple, delete the text "comp.sys.cbm". I
will like you to quit crossposting this junk. Anymore of this, we will
contact your ISP. (I assume that is a college or educational institute in
Australia.) We have some friends in Australia that can take care of this.

I must be missing something here but what is the problem Paul Panks is
having ?
I have a few of his programs. Can someone fill me in, privately (personal
email) ?

Listen sport, you don't rule the internet (who's this "we" exactly?).
Try and get me barred from my [commercial] ISP and see how far you get -
I'll bet my contacts are more influential than yours; and try to have my
work account removed and see if you get 1 micron - I am of equal
organisational rank with the ITS manager in my institute. Such threats
are childish. I've been on the internet, and Usenet groups in
particular, since 1983 (sometime *after* I sold my beloved C64 and
started using Unix at college). When you were still wetting the bed?

I'm sorry for the crossposting, but Panks or someone quoting him
crossposted first and nothing I have posted is anything but a follow-on
from that first post. Paul is an old t.o regular, and his lucid moments
are of interest to any group of which *he* chooses to be part of. Live
with the fact that Usenet is uncontrolled, and make good use of
killfiles. And chill; try to control yourself. Or take the meds,
whatever.

And by the way, *I* don't use a pseudonym through a free mail account.
What have *you* got to hide exactly?

Hey shut up guys! We're pissing off the neighbors. If we're not careful,
this guy is going to get talk.origins banned from Usenet, and maybe even
Australia...

On second thought, whoop it up!

--
A. Clausen

maureen-t...@alberni.net

Put your internet badge away for a moment.

--Decimal Cat

"wildstar128" <wilds...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ve2j1jp...@corp.supernews.com...

Careful there Wildstar. For all you know John may have friends in Oregon!

No, the problem with mental illnesses is all these other nutcases who think
they're an expert and The Final Word(tm) on the subject, and can't accept
any sort of opinion or actual experience that doesn't neatly fit in the box
they've religiously created around the subject. Plus, they crosspost
off-topic messages on usenet and therefore must be hunted down and fed to
hungry fire ants.

--

http://www.white-flame.com/
(spamblock in effect)

Don't be for sure man. There was an individual who was on misc.rural that
almost got terminated because someone made a complaint to the guy's ISP
complaints & abuse service. The ISP warned the individual that if they
received one more complaint - his service will be terminated. Now the guy
did nothing of signifigance. All that was required was a complaint.

There is other options to dealing with a newsgroup altogether.

Found out what it is all about.

Could but then which parts of Oregon ????? Anyway, I think the guy gets the
point. Anyway, I think he understands to major concerns.

You may never know, but I do, because I am in control. Now heed my command,
mortals!

</deity>

He's probably upset that he has to plug a mouse into his computer?

Lets see if I understand this, you do not like to plug a mouse into your
computer? Could that have anything to do with your hamster fetish? :-)

I really do not want to know where that hamster spends the night.

I always knew his pet's health was, er, well... at stake.

"Thomas McDonald" <ts...@wwt.net> wrote in message news:<33cDa.374$2U1....@reggie.win.bright.net>...
> "Frank Reichenbacher" <fr...@bio-con.com> wrote in message
> news:GumcnZ2qtbu...@speakeasy.net...
> >
> > "Paul Allen Panks" <ppa...@juno.com> wrote in message
> > news:cb0ed86a.0306...@posting.google.com...
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > > I met a female college student who overdosed on Tylonel (because her
> > > boyfriend cheated on her).
> >
> > Reminds me of the guy who tried to kill himself by jumping off the
> railroad
> > bridge across the San Pedro River outside of Benson, Arizona. Anyone who
> > knows the San Pedro knows that nowehere along its 150 mile length is it
> more
> > than about 8 inches deep. So this guy doesn't drown, of course, but he
> does
> > get stuck up to his chest in mud. Two days later someone passing by hears
> > his moans and they dig him out.
> >
> > You would have to take a lot of Tylenol to kill yourself, man.
> >
> > Frank
> >
> > <snip>
>
> Frank,
>
> NO! (Sorry for the caps, but this is important.)
>
> There is a much smaller difference between a normal, therapeutic dose of
> Tylenol/acetominophen and a potentially lethal overdose than for nearly any
> other OTC drug.
>
> While the initial overdose might not be lethal immediately, it often
> leads to liver failure some time after the initial effects wear off. Liver
> failure, for those who don't know, is quite often fatal. When not fatal, it
> requires an extremely unpleasant and prolonged treatment to regain some
> (often not all) liver function.
>
> It's nasty, and it is easier than most folks think. While
> Tylenol/acetominophen is relatively free of the side effects of other OTC
> pain medication at normal dosages, overdosage is a true bitch.
>
> Tom McDonald

... does that mean I can ask John to finally shoot weirdo* and mad Matt?
--
cul8er,

Paul
paul.f...@gmx.net