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anon...@discussions.microsoft.com

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Apr 18, 2004, 2:23:39 PM4/18/04
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Dear Sir/Miss,

I be willing torequest you for some information regarding
the different betwwen Windows XP PRO OEM and Windows XP
PRO.

I'm working with Windows XP Home Edition, and before I
purchase the PRO System, I want to have the information
which system the is best system between the PRO OEM and
the PRO System and there for I need your help to have
these information.

Thank you forward for your support, cooperation and
understanding,

Sincerely,

Buddy Simon.

Ken Blake, MVP

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Apr 18, 2004, 2:31:27 PM4/18/04
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bu...@bsimon.nl <anon...@discussions.microsoft.com> typed:

>
> I be willing torequest you for some information regarding
> the different betwwen Windows XP PRO OEM and Windows XP
> PRO.
>
> I'm working with Windows XP Home Edition, and before I
> purchase the PRO System, I want to have the information
> which system the is best system between the PRO OEM and
> the PRO System and there for I need your help to have
> these information.


Neither is *best*. XP Professional and XP Home are exactly the
same in all respects, except that Professional has a few features
(mostly related to networking and security) missing from Home.
For most (but not all) home users, these features aren't needed,
would never be used, and buying Professional instead of Home is a
waste of money.

For details go to

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/windowsxp_home_pro.asp

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/whichxp.asp

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/howtobuy/choosing2.asp

Also note that Professional allows ten concurrent network
connections, and Home only five.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup


Phil (a.k.a. purplehaz)

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Apr 18, 2004, 2:36:22 PM4/18/04
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Stay away from oem computers, have one built if you can afford the extra few
hundred. Not only are most oem computers cheaply built and under powered,
but most give you only a recovery cd that formats and restores the computer
to day one. Usually you do not get an xp cd.

OEM versions:

-- cannot upgrade over an existing Windows installation
-- must be installed on a "clean" drive
-- cannot be transferred to a new or different computer in the future
-- are not eligible for any free technical support from Microsoft
-- must be sold with some type of computer hardware
-- cost less because of the above limitations

If you want to be able to transfer XP to a new computer in the future,
then a "retail version" is your only logical choice.

anon...@discussions.microsoft.com

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Apr 18, 2004, 2:41:45 PM4/18/04
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OEM is given to you by a manufacturer. You can use it only
on that machine and sometimes only on the hardware that
came with that machine. You can not move it to any other
system. Tech support will usually go thru the oem
manufacturer not microsoft. Sometimes you will not be
given a windows disc by the manufacturer, instead they
will place a hidden partition with system restore
information.

The XP pro you would buy in the store is exactly the same
except its fully yours. You can move it to another computer
(but remeber 1 windows license per 1 computer). You have
the disc in hand. Microsoft support.

And if I missed anything I am sure someone else will post
more.

>.
>

Bruce Chambers

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Apr 18, 2004, 2:49:11 PM4/18/04
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Greetings --

There are some very important reasons that an OEM license costs so
much less than a retail license. OEM licenses are very limited:

1) OEM versions must be sold with a piece of hardware (normally
a motherboard or hard drive, if not an entire PC, although Microsoft
has greatly relaxed the hardware criteria for WinXP) and are
_permanently_ bound to the first PC on which they are installed. An
OEM license, once installed, is not legally transferable to another
computer under any circumstances. This is the main reason some people
avoid OEM versions; if the PC dies or is otherwise disposed of (even
stolen), you cannot re-use your OEM license on a new PC. The only
legitimate way to transfer the ownership of an installed OEM license
is to transfer ownership of the entire PC.

2) Microsoft provides no free support for OEM versions. If you
have any problems that require outside assistance, your only recourse
is to contact the manufacturer/builder of the PC or the vendor of the
OEM license. This would include such issues as lost a Product Key or
replacing damaged installation media. (Microsoft does make allowances
for those instances when you can prove that the OEM has gone out of
business.) This doesn't mean that you can't download patches and
service packs from Microsoft -- just no free telephone or email
support for problems with the OS.

3) An OEM CD cannot be used to perform an upgrade of an earlier
OS, as it was designed to be installed _only_ upon an empty hard
drive. It can still be used to perform a repair installation (a.k.a.
an in-place upgrade) of an existing WinXP installation.

4) If the OEM CD was designed by a specific manufacturer, such as
eMachines, Sony, Dell, Gateway, etc., it will most likely only install
on the same brand/model of PC, as an additional anti-piracy feature.
Further, such CDs are often severely customized to contain only the
minimum of device drivers, and a lot of extra nonsense, that the
manufacturer feels necessary for the specific model of PC for which
the CD was designed. (To be honest, such CDs should _not_ be
available on the open market; but, if you're shopping someplace like
eBay, eastern European web sites, swap meets, or computer fairs,
there's often no telling what you're buying until it's too late.) The
"generic" OEM CDs, such as are manufactured by Microsoft and sold to
small systems builders, don't have this particular problem, though,
and are pretty much the same as their retail counterparts, apart from
the licensing, support, and upgrading restrictions.


Bruce Chambers

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> In news:09f601c42572$455d7a30$a501...@phx.gbl,
> bu...@bsimon.nl <anon...@discussions.microsoft.com> typed:
>
> >
> > I be willing torequest you for some information regarding
> > the different betwwen Windows XP PRO OEM and Windows XP
> > PRO.

Ken,
he wanted to know the differance between XP Pro and XP Pro OEM.

Ken Blake, MVP

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Apr 18, 2004, 3:11:45 PM4/18/04
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Ken Blake, MVP <kbl...@this.is.an.invalid.domain> typed:

> In news:09f601c42572$455d7a30$a501...@phx.gbl,
> bu...@bsimon.nl <anon...@discussions.microsoft.com> typed:
>
>>
>> I be willing torequest you for some information regarding
>> the different betwwen Windows XP PRO OEM and Windows XP
>> PRO.
>>
>> I'm working with Windows XP Home Edition, and before I
>> purchase the PRO System, I want to have the information
>> which system the is best system between the PRO OEM and
>> the PRO System and there for I need your help to have
>> these information.
>
>
> Neither is *best*. XP Professional and XP Home are exactly the
> same in all respects, except that Professional has a few
features
> (mostly related to networking and security) missing from Home.
> For most (but not all) home users, these features aren't
needed,
> would never be used, and buying Professional instead of Home is
a
> waste of money.


Sorry, I misread your question. Ignore the answer above.

The OEM version can only legally be sold with hardware, although
these days, any piece of hardware, even a power cord, qualifies.
Although if you get a complete generic OEM version, it contains
the same software, it has the following disadvantages as compared
with the retail version:

1. Its license ties it permanently to the first computer it's
installed on. It can never legally be moved to another computer,
sold, or given away.

2. It can only do a clean installation, not an upgrade.

3. Microsoft provides no support for OEM versions. You can't call
them with a problem, but instead have to get any needed support
from your OEM; that support may range anywhere between good and
non-existent. Or you can get support elsewhere, such as in these
newsgroups.

Ken Blake, MVP

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Apr 18, 2004, 3:12:53 PM4/18/04
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> news:u5UceNXJ...@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> In news:09f601c42572$455d7a30$a501...@phx.gbl,
>> bu...@bsimon.nl <anon...@discussions.microsoft.com> typed:
>>
>> >
>> > I be willing torequest you for some information regarding
>> > the different betwwen Windows XP PRO OEM and Windows XP
>> > PRO.
>
> Ken,
> he wanted to know the differance between XP Pro and XP Pro OEM.


Yes, thanks. I misread his question, and just sent a more
appropriate answer.

David Candy

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Apr 18, 2004, 3:18:53 PM4/18/04
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4. SOFTWARE DISTRIBUTION

4.1 If the enclosed Software Unit consists of a desktop operating system, Microsoft grants to you a

nonexclusive right to distribute each Software Unit, provided it is distributed accompanied with either a fully

assembled computer system or nonperipheral computer hardware component (that will be an integral part of

the computer system on which the Software Unit will be installed). A fully assembled computer system shall

consist of at least a central processing unit, a motherboard, a hard drive, a power supply, and a case.

.

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http://www.g2mil.com/Dec2003.htm

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> > "Ken Blake, MVP" <kbl...@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in
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> > news:u5UceNXJ...@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >> In news:09f601c42572$455d7a30$a501...@phx.gbl,
> >> bu...@bsimon.nl <anon...@discussions.microsoft.com> typed:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > I be willing torequest you for some information regarding
> >> > the different betwwen Windows XP PRO OEM and Windows XP
> >> > PRO.
> >
> > Ken,
> > he wanted to know the differance between XP Pro and XP Pro OEM.
>
>
> Yes, thanks. I misread his question, and just sent a more
> appropriate answer.

I thought so.
Your answers are useally right on the money. ;-)

Ken Blake, MVP

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Spinner <spi...@web.cor> typed:

>> > Ken,
>> > he wanted to know the differance between XP Pro and XP Pro
OEM.
>>
>>
>> Yes, thanks. I misread his question, and just sent a more
>> appropriate answer.
>
> I thought so.
> Your answers are useally right on the money. ;-)


Thanks for the kind words.

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