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DrakePegasus posted:Poor Old Paint. That greenskin is going to take his jerb! I haven't kept up with DF in a while. Is this an actual thing in the game now that your own fortress can have some effect on what happens in other fortresses?
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Pozzo posted:Haha, I haven't really played DF for months, and just hearing your dulcet tones again, Captain, has brought enough of a flash of nostalgia from when I learnt it that I'm going to go and fire up Fortress Mode for the first time in 2012 Hah well it was worth posting that link then  . I yesterday finally got around to trying the legends viewer thanks to leperflesh 's awesome history post. I've never bothered with it before and by the looks of it it's drat awesome. I'll have to make a video with that in the future.
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Just got caught up. I'm looking forward to the horrific downfall of this fort! 
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 Chapter 4 27th Hematite While returning to outdoors to fish (still no fishery) Internet Kraken is surprised at the butchery by a kangaroo.   There is a brief scuffle and then the kangaroo flees while Kraken returns to the fortress to report mayhem.  Thereafter he descends to dig with Nettle Soup. He professes mining is not shirking.  1st Malachite The smelter is finished. I order mechanisms built. In the afternoon there is excitement and loud declarations as dwarves are sighted from the west. Migrants have come! They gather on the hill, perhaps awaiting welcome or not spotting the entrance for Bad Munki is in kitchen and not patrolling while Internet Kraken is digging below.  I felt relief of burden I had not known I hauled that Sankis has been faithful. She was not only words and a bag of tourmalines if dwarves traveled to find Bronzestabbed. Nine dwarves have come! But there must be caution. Strangers should be shown due honor but not undue faith until proven. 3rd Malachite The migrants were hailed and have slowly filed in. Each checks in at my office where I record details in the records. They have the 'alias' given by Sankis and so I write this. The subterfuge I thought was clever when Sankis first explained but now it puzzles. But I will not overrule because it is not a great trouble and Sankis represents royal will.   Asehujiko Gosmermeng “Umbralashed” is married to Teim Utharzulban and is of middle age. She smiled nervously and drummed fingers on my desk and reported skill at potash making which is useless but she has smoothed floors and cut stone before thus she will stonework. Additionally Asehujiko complemented my organization.    Teim Utharzulban “Firstbanners” is husband to Asehujiko and is of middle age. He reports substantial engraving talent. Additionally he has worked many small jobs and understands the crossbow. He was nervous but made joke about nervousness that was amusing but crude regarding bodily function. An engraver will carve history in the great hall but until then Teim will perform many small jobs.    PublicOpinion Necikakrul “Singetin” is married to Koorisch Idenzuglar and is blushing youth recently brided. She protested recordkeeping and claimed one month apprenticeship at hunting at Cavepacks. Internet Kraken is one hunter too many presently therefore PublicOpinion will perform many small jobs and perhaps eventually recruit for crossbow militia or perhaps fashion stone crafts.    Koorisch Idenzuglar “Paddleships” is husband to PublicOpinion and is of short-bearded youth recently groomed. He placated wife over paperwork and claimed experience farming. Crops are destined for this year therefore Koorisch will farm but until then Koorisch will perform many small jobs.    Crackmaster Sodelimush “Shielddikes” is married to Kelli Telingcerol and is of middle age. She was slow to answer questions and behaved guardedly but is well spoken. Crackmaster professes great skill at gem setting and can wield a mace with efficiency. She has also performed several small jobs and brought a beloved keet named Geshud Uzrigoth that is a small brown game bird and is male therefore no small eggs. Crackmaster will carve and set pyrites unless required for militia duty.     Kelli Telingcerol “Coastlens” is husband to Crackmaster and is of middle age. He answered questions with single words and claimed long experience operating pumps at Mirrorgorged. Additionally he desired fishing which I allow on premise that perhaps Kelli will construct a fishery.    Fitzy Fitz Bardumiden “Foughtpaddles” is a widower of late middle age. He has lived at Shottome, and is an ardent worshipper of Ugath Muckcrypts. He stared at the floor while elaborating about his lost spouse. His wife Fikod Shiptowns was a beast hunter who famously battled a brush titan in The Humorous Plain who ambushed and struck her down. Fitzy Fitz recalls every detail of history he knows with perfectness. Fitzy Fitz has performed minor acts of crafting but has no other talent. Fitzy Fitz will perform minor tasks unless Bad Munki needs a recruit with historical knowledge. His first task is bone greaves.    Nomikos Berinal “Earthenlulled” is married to i poo poo trains Lekkeskal and is a blushing youth recently brided. She stuttered answer that she is from Shottome and can stab well with a spear. Having tracking skills also but no domestic skill Nomikos will join the militia and hopefully not immediately produce a baby.    i poo poo trains Lekkeskal “Bristleshot” is husband to Nomikos and is of short-bearded youth recently groomed. He clicked tongue and was impatient of recordkeeping. i poo poo trains has dabbled with a few small jobs but is mighty and of strapping health therefore Bad Munki will train him for combat alongside his bride.    It is a motley group of four married couples (two very young and two of middle age) and a lone widower Ugath-fanatic. I do not surmise what Sankis sought or found in these dwarves but our number is more than doubled which more than doubles chances for survival although immediately also more than doubles mouths to feed. The first smelted metal will make another pick to speed digging.  5th Malachite Fiendish Murk. Kelli is fishing and has not been adequately warned. However he has obeyed restrictions of fishing holes and is not close. Writhing limbs of dusk drape over grass and trees southwest of the stream bend.      6th Malachite It is passed. Newcomer dwarves are uproared. Vox Nihili pastures a keet with the turkey hen and I instruct Tiem to make an anmial trap. Internet Kraken and Nettle Soup carve limestone. Markus_cz, Bad Munki and I calm dwarves and warn no loitering near Glumpwrongs. Fitzy Fitz cancels bone greaves due to insufficient bones despite two entire horses of bones, instead making bone gauntlets.   7th Malachite I am reported PublicOpinion is in possession a bronze crossbow and stacks of steel bolts with which she hunts without permission. Reviewing records I find hunting was not forbidden but PublicOpinion did not report ownership of metal bolts. Preservation of steel for war is the superior policy at Bronzestabbed. But PublicOpinion will not know until she returns.  9th Malachite Kelli constructs the fishery then fetches raw turtles for preparation. Internet Kraken successfully shirked fishery but only by laboring with the pick.  The wood furnace is also complete. I order stacks of charcoal. PublicOpinion is spotted distantly hunting among glumpwrongs near haunted stream. I will not risk another dwarf to go fetch her.  11th Malachite PublicOpinion can be seen expending steel bolts on a weasel. It is slain with one shot showing superior marksdwarfship.  12th Malachite Having returned her kill PublicOpinion obeys restrictions and relinquishes steel bolts. There is no blame for misunderstanding. I will be more careful with instructions. I order construction of rock mechanisms for use and trade.  14th Malachite I discussed with Bad Munki. I ordered doors for Dirtpractices that drilling does not disturb sleep at The Noble Rest. Bad Munki organized his recruits but had discouragement.  “I spent days out there in the grass looking for weasels” he told me and I reminded of nearby goblin fortresses. “You will have to do what you can with the new recruits, Bad Munki,” I told him. “I will have bronze for weapons and armor soon. The burden is on you therefore be steadfast,” I consoled. Bad Munki is not pleased but he is dutiful.   I ordered trees cut and berries gathered for brewing will be needed soon as only 30 drinks remain and charcoal making will use the remaining cut wood. There is a farmer for indoor crops but an eating hall should be finished before I devote miners to other tasks. 19th Malachite I told Koorisch to learn mechanics. Vox Nihili must work furnaces and therefore cannot always make mechanisms. Crackmaster and scamtank gather plants. I assign i poo poo trains also because he is idle and a farmer should know of plants.  21st Malachite Several dwarves gather to drink at the stockpiles. Bad Munki joins and I overhear recounting of Ripewhips. Newcomers will ponder alongside veterans so better to understand when I explain Bronzestabbed.  23rd Malachite Vox Nihili relieved of making mechanisms cuts trees. I assign Crackmaster and Kelli tree-hewing and relieve Vox of this labor. There is only one axe besides Bad Munki's so newcomers must share. Fitzy Fitz who has dabbled woodcrafting will also carpent while Nettle Soup is busy mining. Inferior bins will store ammunition no worse than fine bins. 1st Galena Bad Munki relieves Nomikos to train i poo poo trains.  The dining hall nears completion and a chair and table are placed. Malachite ore is plentiful but prospecting for more cassiterite will be required because cassiterite is not a vein stone rather found as small clusters.  Horse bone gauntlets are assigned to Bad Munki.  I update records to find sufficient berries for brewing. There are biscuits and stews to last for months but more brews are needed soon.    Bronzestabbed hums. I feel satisfaction. I know satisfaction is temporary due to the purpose of The Noble Work, but temporary satisfaction is still to be cherished.
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Awesome update, I'm excited to see newcomers! Also I'm starting to think Ugath is somewhat our patron deity.
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Jun 27, 2012 19:07
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That poor normal sized kangaroo, even the pet keet is huge.
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Jun 27, 2012 19:31
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I was considering applying for an overseership, but now I pretty much have to. Bright young weasel-slayer vs. stodgy old beard. The narrative practically writes itself!
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Jun 27, 2012 19:37
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This was the best lunch break ever!
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Hah, going to try my hand at writing a journal entry. A husband and wife with their freshly hatched Guinea Fowl. Apparently this is what a keet looks like: 
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Jun 27, 2012 19:52
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Ha! Hope you can keep that up when you get 50 dwarves at once. Also drat is my dwarf a real downer. He's a cultist with a dead wife and he makes things out of bones.
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Jun 27, 2012 19:55
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Fitzy Fitz posted:He's a cultist with a dead wife and he makes things out of bones. That actually sounds kind of awesome.
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Any chance I can get the file off of you Leperflesh? During the overseer switch maybe? Trying to do measurements with screenshots is aggravating, and I want to convert the entire map over. E: I just found a sizing mistake in that picture. drat it. Nidhhogg fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Jun 27, 2012 |
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5th Malachite Having traveled for many months, we have finally finished the trek to our new home, Bronzestabbed. Instead of being built into the stone like a proper mountainhome, it is instead dug into the dirt like the den of a feral animal. The expedition leader Leperfish claims that the dirt is called a hill and rises from the land like a mountain and is thus a proper home for a dwarf, but I do not believe him. Opposite from the den entrance is a flat plain which all are forbidden to walk upon (which I agree with heartily as a plain is no place for a dwarf) but it is forbidden for the wrong reason. The founding dwarves claim of an evil murk that will turn animals upside down, but I asked why they could not then turn themselves rightside up again, and I further added that infants can turn themselves rightside up again so why couldn't a grown dwarf do it, but for saying that I was chastised and called young and called a fool. I made conversation with fellow migrant Fitzy Fitz (who is rather old and yet has no wife) and we learned of our mutual devoted worship Ugath Muckcrypts, yet he chastised me for joining the militia at such a young age as reckless and chastised me again but in a graver tone when he learned that my wife also was joining the militia. I tried to explain but he was not interested and said he had workings to do with horse bones. I do not understand Fitzy Fitz.
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Am I the only one who laughed every time "i poo poo trains'" name was mentioned? It's just jarring against the stately dwarven narrative.
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 The sound of picks. Muscled arms sweat from labour, toiling endlessly amid the depths of the earth. Ever deeper they plunge, ceasing not for thirst nor fatigue, for there is no prize greater than the riches beneath.  (Disclaimer: This is the first actual song I've ever composed, I have literally no formal music training, I haven't a clue how to write for other instruments, I don't know the first thing about how to make MIDIs sound good and failed spectacularly at trying to export it as an mp3. But all that aside, I hope someone likes it!) edit: Updated, now with 100% less midi Boing fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Jun 27, 2012 |
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Jun 27, 2012 21:23
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The only thing I don't like it how it is ever so slightly out of phase with your avatar which is making my brain hurt. edit: Clocks posted:Am I the only one who laughed every time "i poo poo trains'" name was mentioned? It's just jarring against the stately dwarven narrative. You were not. TehKeen fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Jun 27, 2012 |
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Jun 27, 2012 21:33
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Boing posted:
Fear not, this is good. Could probably use a little polish but I'm not sure whether it's the raw MIDI-ness of it or your lack of training, but it still sounds good, entertaining and dwarfy. I don't know how to export some of my .mid files as MP3s because the program I use doesn't really have an option for that. Short of using Audacity and some audio cable trickery. Which if you'd like I'll do that for you. gently caress it, where's my Soundsense? I'm making a Bronzestabbed pack, and I'll keep adding to it as everyone composes stuff. Maybe once I get back from vacation I can play with my new MIDI Keyboard and make something too.
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The elf was sent scurrying with a hail of small rocks, discarded trinkets and broken goblets. They should have known something was not quite right about this so-called engraver when he arrived carrying neither chisel nor hammer. One of the dwarves picked up the stiff, brittle cloths left behind by the elf; "Hey, Scamtank - I think this one is supposed to be you" Scoffing loudly, Scamtank muttered "Weill, it could have been worse, it could have been a goblin engraver - I will never forget the time one of them made his artwork in one of the main passageways back home, the stench lasted for weeks.." Scamtank  Vox Nihili  (my attention was drifting here, so his nose seems to have been broken at some point, lets put it down to "dwarven affections")
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Owns. Pretty bare, could've used some low backing, but owns. LotionMan posted:Scoff Also owns. I really like how I look ready to let loose another grumbling series of complaints. scamtank fucked around with this message at 21:47 on Jun 27, 2012 |
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Jun 27, 2012 21:44
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5th Malachite I don't like that cloud out there.. Some say that as long as we don't go near it we should be safe, but I am not sure. I heard others talking by the food stockpile that it turns dwarves upside down. I am not sure what that means, will we walk on our hands if it engulfs us? This queer, elfish weather makes me nervous... I need a sewer brew.
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If i poo poo trains could at some point form a sparring school called i poo poo trainees I cannot overstate how happy I would be. Superb update. Was really looking forward to the first migrant wave. It's all fun from here!
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Jun 27, 2012 22:13
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Do we need to wait until we get dwarfed to post journal entries, or can we post stuff from where we are currently (i.e. Ripewhips)?
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Jun 27, 2012 22:47
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Woah, my description was pretty apt, it's very similar to my personality and behavior! 
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Jun 27, 2012 22:49
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I bet you also have a great need for people to like and admire you, and you tend to be critical of yourself.Flavius Belisarius posted:Do we need to wait until we get dwarfed to post journal entries, or can we post stuff from where we are currently (i.e. Ripewhips)? I don't think anyone will hold it against you if you jump the gun. Nothing wrong with journal entries even if you won't ever be dwarfed.
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FinalSin posted:If i poo poo trains could at some point form a sparring school called i poo poo trainees I cannot overstate how happy I would be. You made me cackle on the train, people looked at me funny.
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Boing posted:I bet you also have a great need for people to like and admire you, and you tend to be critical of yourself. Not sure if that really applies to the dwarf personalities. They tend to be more specific than horoscope-type descriptions and often pretty extreme, "He is not easily moved to pity" and the like.
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This is great stuff, fan works and overseer updates alike. I feel like this might be a very good LP.
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Flavius Belisarius posted:Do we need to wait until we get dwarfed to post journal entries, or can we post stuff from where we are currently (i.e. Ripewhips)? You can, the only problem that I could see is that your personality may not match your dwarfs personality. That being said, you can always come up with something I suppose between the last journal entry and your actual dwarfing to explain why the change if they dont match up very well.
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Worst case scenario is that you're dwarfed as a native born baby.
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All these journal entries add so much flavour, and they are pretty well written. Keep up the good work people! I'm also loving the speed the lp moves at. Of course it's Leperfish doing them, guess we'll see how it goes once others start taking over. PublicOpinion posted:Worst case scenario is that you're dwarfed as a native born baby. Goo go gaga bpplll me wan bweer Darval fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Jun 27, 2012 |
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Vox Nihili posted:Not sure if that really applies to the dwarf personalities. They tend to be more specific than horoscope-type descriptions and often pretty extreme, "He is not easily moved to pity" and the like. Personality traits are generated on a 0-100 scale for each factor and are normally distributed around a mean of 50. Those that fall in the completely neutral segment of a given personality factor aren't mentioned at all in the description, but nonetheless the majority of things that get included are fairly mild. "Calm demeanour", "self-conscious", "can handle stress". You get a few that are extreme, like you say, but most will fall within a reasonable error distribution for any average response on personality questionnaire items. 
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I love how new migrants differ in age and prior life experience. Fitzy Fitz is the best migrant. For some reason, this migrant wave felt like a group of actual people coming to the fortress, rather than a bunch of anonymous numbers. It's Leperflesh doing, of course. Good job with that. I don't think it'll be possible to keep this up once we have hundres dwarves and migrant waves of dozens, but you did set the mood quite nicely. I felt like if I were actually there with you, interviewing all the newcomers.
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Boing posted:
Makes me miss my C64 :'(
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Boing posted:Personality traits are generated on a 0-100 scale for each factor and are normally distributed around a mean of 50. Those that fall in the completely neutral segment of a given personality factor aren't mentioned at all in the description, but nonetheless the majority of things that get included are fairly mild. "Calm demeanour", "self-conscious", "can handle stress". You get a few that are extreme, like you say, but most will fall within a reasonable error distribution for any average response on personality questionnaire items. Normal distribution rolling on the dozens of available traits mean that you're more than likely to average a couple outliers per dwarf.  Reading the list of possible trait descriptions is pretty amusing, by the way. "would never let an objective judgement be tempered by mercy or pity" "would never deny (his) own needs just to compromise with somebody else"
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Hey everyone! I'm glad we're all having fun.i poo poo trains posted:journal entry This is pretty great and I definitely don't want to discourage anyone from contributing. That said, there is an inaccuracy (the savanna is actually very hilly, not a flat plain), and, perhaps more tricky, you've dictated something Leperfish has said. To some extent that's unavoidable when anyone writes a journal entry that includes interactions with others. But when it's the Overseer in particular, you risk contradicting something the person writing the narrative has already written (but not yet posted). In this case it's pretty borderline. You may decide, eventually based on later update(s), that Leperfish would not have actually claimed Bronzestabbed is a fit home for a dwarf at all. Or, perhaps i poo poo trains just wasn't paying attention, or misunderstood, or is paraphrasing, or is even lying in his journal. I don't mean to pick on you in particular (I already had a brief exchange with Markus on this subject), I'm more trying to give everyone a heads-up. Because, here's the deal: you're free to write whatever you want, and I really really want everyone to participate as much as they feel inspired to: but ultimately the Overseer updates are "canon" and the journal entries are secondary. If there's a conflict, the Overseer update wins, no question. Overseers are free to incorporate journal stuff if they want, but they're not required to do so, and in fact I encourage overseers to freely ignore any journal content that goes against the characterization they're doing in their story. Events obviously flow mostly from what happens in-game so that's a bit easier, but conversations are almost nonexistent in actual gameplay (with the exception of interactions with the trade liaison, and instances where an upset dwarf complains to the mayor about lack of work or something and the log reports they were consoled (or not)) so dialog is pretty much always an invented event. So, if you're writing a journal entry, try to find the areas where its possible to expand the setting, elaborate on your own dwarf's personal feelings, report dialog, but - especially - react to what's already posted in the game. Just be ready to potentially be overruled whenever you create an interaction or event that might wind up contradicted in an Overseer post. Nidhhogg posted:Any chance I can get the file off of you Leperflesh? During the overseer switch maybe? Trying to do measurements with screenshots is aggravating, and I want to convert the entire map over. In theory I could send you the save, but I think it would break unless you had all the raws and stuff too. Essentially we share the entire DF install when we do these things. And I'm not quite ready to post the entire thing. If you can hold out for a couple more days, I'll have the first save packaged up and ready for the next Overseer and at that time you can grab it too. Naturally anyone who grabs the save is exposed to massive spoilers and is strictly forbidden from ruining the fun by posting details or even oblique hints about anything in the game that hasn't been explicitly exposed by Overseers. No "oh ho ho just you guys wait" or "oh man Leperfish really did a number" or "OMG I can't wait till what happens next month". That poo poo is really really annoying to the audience. Boing posted:
Not sure I actually believe you, because this is excellent. Bare, not that complicated, but quite fun to listen to. I love musical contributions! Flavius Belisarius posted:Do we need to wait until we get dwarfed to post journal entries, or can we post stuff from where we are currently (i.e. Ripewhips)? You don't need to wait for your dwarf to show up, but, you should not predict a specific, actually-exists place that your dwarf comes from (and especially not Ripewhips). Because, with the exception of the Starting 7, everydwarf that shows up as a migrant is actually from somewhere, their past is recorded in the Legends, overseers can look them up and build upon them, and there's even hints as to where they're from in their Thoughts screen. So you will almost certainly wind up with a dwarf who is provably not from Ripewhips. And yeah, you could wind up being a newborn. Leaving that aside, I have got more to say about Ripewhips in the future and like I explained above I'm going to ride roughshod over whatever folks make up about the place. When I'm done you'll all get what I mean and it'll be safer to make things up especially before the next Overseer starts composing their own updates. One option if your dwarf hasn't arrived yet is to compose a vignette about anonymous dwarfs in the world. Legends doesn't account for every single dwarf that ever lived - only those who do something "notable" get mentioned (but notability does include everydwarf who ever takes up a profession at any fortress). As an example, some of the migrants shown in the latest update have large families detailed, but some don't even have parents. Obviously they had parents, but their names are "lost to history." You can freely write about any unknown dwarf without fear of contradicting Legends... but, none of those dwarfs will ever migrate to Bronzestabbed because we're not going to run out of notable dwarves of The Rare Ship. Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 02:01 on Jun 28, 2012 |
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I still say http://mkv25.net/dfma/ would be really useful for maps, you could always black out things that people don't want added to the map or something. it doesn't show unexplored areas like caves and poo poo, so it's not like we're gonna get major spoilers. You can even then download the map in a tiny file and reconvert it into a png. 100 HOGS AGREE fucked around with this message at 02:06 on Jun 28, 2012 |
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Leperflesh posted:In theory I could send you the save, but I think it would break unless you had all the raws and stuff too. Essentially we share the entire DF install when we do these things. And I'm not quite ready to post the entire thing. If you can hold out for a couple more days, I'll have the first save packaged up and ready for the next Overseer and at that time you can grab it too. You can find them in, as an example, df_34_10_win\data\save\region1\raw
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I've always wanted to do a DF LP and tell the story from a perspective of a unreliable narrator. Liar dwarves sound fun.
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