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John Charity Spring posted:It's great to get a proper overview of the fortress again - as a layperson, it was getting a little impenetrable. Good updates so far, Jazzimus. Yeah, I agree with this. I had completely lost all idea of what the thing liked like overall. (Also I think you should drain the water! I have no idea how one does this, but I'd like to see anyway!)
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I am all for churning out high-quality steel armor for everyone. EVERYONE. Is there any downside to laydwarves faffing about in full plate? If so, let me know so I can immediately disregard it and continue to lobby for turning everyone into a tank. A pot helmet in every... uh, pot.
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 14th Granite 243 Several dwarves have come to me and offered some useful suggestions to improve the fortress. Some have suggested completing the siege-breaker started by Thadius. Although Thadius is no longer at the fortress to give us instructions on how to do this, his design seems intuitive enough and should be easy to complete. Others have suggested pumping dry the subterranean ocean that surrounds the forges. I'm not sure whether this is possible, as the ocean extends farther than we can see in most directions, and would probably refill faster than we could possibly pump it out. Still, it's something to consider. Other suggestions include pumping magma to the surface, building a surface pit to freeze captured goblins in ice, crafting enough armor for all of the militia AND the civilians here at Bronzestabbed, and constructing a historical museum of the fortress. I particularly like this last suggestion. For the moment, however, almost all of the dwarves of the fortress are busy with the orders I've already given, which include exploration, mining, and the usual day-to-day operations of the fortress. Everything else will have to wait for now. I visit the adamantine mining operations. Having exercised a great deal of caution, the miners Slick Slinky, The GoBotSodomizer, and OrangeSoda have safely completed the extraction of an additional small quantity of adamantine, to supplement what we already have.  "You know, I've heard that these adamantine veins aren't always hollow, or at least not hollow all the way to the top," says OrangeSoda. "It might be possible to mine the rest of this here, especially if we're high above the magma sea." "Just because something might be possible doesn't mean it's worth risking the fortress," I reply. "I know, I know. I was just sayin'." "And besides," I continue, "we don't actually know just how high above the magma sea we are, anyway. But I have the other miners working on that right now." 19th Granite 243 As I sit in my office, reviewing a report from the Walled Skies military squad, the fortress manager Kaishai enters. I look up. "Yes?" I ask. "I've been informed that Queen Sankis has requested that we produce more ballista ammunition. Shall I get the engineers to work on it for you?  "Yes, if you could please, that would be great," I reply. "Very well, I'll put Juc and Benagain to work on the Queen's mandate then." He leaves. I look back to the report from the Walled Skies. Their patrols have searched the eastern half of the cavern, and found nothing except for a couple of troglodytes that fled when the soldiers came close. Captain Kerrhyphen expects to have the western half of the cavern searched by the end of the month. 25th Granite 243 I step outside for a moment to survey the outdoor farms of Bronzestabbed. Farmers Aesop Poprock, Boing, Koorish, Ohtsam, and Arrhythmia are planting seeds in the fields. Once the seeds are planted, the farmers all walk back to the fortress entrance. "Are you already finished planting for the season?" I ask. "No," says Koorish. "We're just going back into the fortress to get some more seeds." I think for a moment. "Would your work go faster if we stored the seeds out here, closer to the farms?" The farmers look at one another. "Yes, it would," says Arrhythmia, "but nobody's ever offered to build a stockpile out here for us." "Alright then, I'll get the masons to work on building a shelter out here to store the outdoor seeds," I say.   I then climb to the top of the nearby archery tower to get a good view of the surrounding wilderness. Something catches my eye to the distance in the southwest.  "Hey! There's a green cloud over there in the distance!" I call out to the farmers, as they head back to the fortress. "Have any of you seen anything like that around here before?" Boing turns back to me. "The green clouds? Yeah, that's a long story. You might want to give everyone the order to stay away from that area for awhile." 28th Granite 243 Only one part of the first cavern layer has yet to be searched for threats. Vaga42bond and Iunnrais are preparing to go out to patrol this area. I decide to accompany them so that I can get a better idea of both the layout of the cavern, and of what mineral wealth might be present. "You know," says Iunnrais, "we can't really just declare the caverns safe once we finish this patrol. New creatures are always wandering through here from Gods-only-know-where." I look around. The mineral wealth of this cavern is proving to be disappointing. The cavern layer is composed almost entirely of diorite, and the only ore present appears to be a couple of veins of nickel. Small clusters of semiprecious gems, such as pyrite and spinel, can be seen in a few places. Eventually we come to the edge of a subterranean lake. It is large, but not as large as the ocean that surrounds the forges deeper within the earth.  The soldiers pause at the edge of the lake and turn to me.  Vaga42bond shakes his head and speaks. "Like Iunnrais said, something might always come through these caves later. But there's nothing alive down here right now. Unless it's living down in that lake." And then something stirs in the lake. And then something leaps out of the lake. 
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Cliffhanger! To make matters worse, they both use crossbows. This should be
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apostateCourier posted:Cliffhanger! To make matters worse, they both use crossbows. This should be It's only made of Snow - One good hit should do it in. Or I'll be proven wrong and it'll go slaughtering all it gazes upon.
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Oct 18, 2012 04:53
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On the one hand, forgotten beasts made of snow are incredibly easy to kill. One the other hand, if it's just those two dwarfs, it could just web them up and beat them to death before help comes to 1-shot it. So, like everything else in DF, it's sort of a RNG crapshoot.
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Oct 18, 2012 04:56
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Wasn't there another forgotten beast a while ago that was also just a huge snowball?
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Oct 18, 2012 05:59
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I thought this was the same beast since I think the other one fell into some water and never returned.
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Oct 18, 2012 06:30
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Wall it off! If the problem is that random dickholes may come in from unexplored areas of the caverns, just wall off at the points where it's inconvenient for us to go further. Then we can mine the stone or use the water or generally do whatever with that big area instead of keeping it locked. Turn that cavern level into a walled garden!
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Oct 18, 2012 06:35
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Arglebargle III posted:Wall it off! If the problem is that random dickholes may come in from unexplored areas of the caverns, just wall off at the points where it's inconvenient for us to go further. Then we can mine the stone or use the water or generally do whatever with that big area instead of keeping it locked. With statues..and caged animals for a zoo! I also suggest building a misting waterfall somewhere appropriate. Actually, is it possible to make it a fountain? edit: To expand even further...Water Funpark! Vadoc fucked around with this message at 06:54 on Oct 18, 2012 |
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Oct 18, 2012 06:50
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Are the beasts that may be hiding in Adamantite vulnerable to water. Or lava? Or, perhaps, Obsidianisation?
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Veloxyll posted:Are the beasts that may be hiding in Adamantite vulnerable to water. Or lava? Or, perhaps, Obsidianisation? They are easy to deal with now. You just keep the stairway leading down to them covered with hatches, and if you do a bad thing you lock the hatches and they can't come up because they can't break hatches from the floor below. Sometimes you even have enough time to build a wall/floor over the breach before they come up, which feels more secure than mere hatches. The problem is that when you reveal the creatures and their habitat, your FPS goes to poo poo. Walling them off doesn't change that. Once they are active they will try to path to your dwarfs, and eat all the FPS. All of it. Your dwarfs are safe, but the game isn't fun anymore.
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Angela Christine posted:The problem is that when you reveal the creatures and their habitat, your FPS goes to poo poo. Walling them off doesn't change that. Once they are active they will try to path to your dwarfs, and eat all the FPS. All of it. Your dwarfs are safe, but the game isn't fun anymore. And when Dwarf Fortress stops being fun, you may as well roll out the red carpet for the HFS. Actually any colored carpet will do, since it's gonna look red soon anyways 
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I wouldn't say the forgotten beast leaps. More like rolls. ...Actually, considering it only has a body and tail of snow, what does it use to spin those supposedly deadly webs?!
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1st Slate 243 I jump back at the sight of the great white blob, and it immediately fires several webs from various orifices. Iunnrais and I both suddenly find ourselves helpless, stuck fast to the cavern floor. While it is distracted by us, however, Vaga42Bond has just enough time to fire his crossbow at the creature. A bolt shoots cleanly through the thing, and there is a blinding white flash as snow is sent in all directions by the force of the impact.  Once it all settles, there is a big pile of snow on the ground where the abomination had used to be.  Vaga42Bond cuts us free from the webs. I now have a new respect for the dangers of the caverns. Worse things than giant rodents can be found here. 5th Slate 243 Miners Ardeem and InwardChaos inform me that during the process of digging shafts to explore the magma sea, they have discovered a pocket of marble in the depths of the earth. This is good. More flux stone for steelmaking is always useful, and marble is valuable in its own right as a material for trade goods.  9th Slate 243 The mason Peas enters my office. "Jazzimus, I would like to report that the outdoor seed warehouse you had commissioned has been completed. Would you like to see it?" I nod, and he leads me out to the finished structure.   Excellent! This should make our farming operations more efficient. In fact, the farmers are already beginning to make use of it. 13th Slate 243 There are far too many useless animals taking up space and resources in our fortress. I order the butchers Hudlinkin and Immoral Hamster to stop any other duties they might have, and to begin slaughtering the animals that we do not need. They begin with the excess cats.  17th Slate 243 Clothiers Fitzy Fitz and woytaz report that the clothing industry has used up all of the cloth we have available. It looks as though I will need to build more farmers' workshops to spin our stocks of pig tails and rope reeds into thread and cloth to keep the fortress clothed.  21st Slate 243 I am approached in my office by two of the fortress's most important masons, the legendary Tunicate and his twice-legendary wife, The Archivist.   Their faces are pale with worry. "Jazzimus," asks The Archivist, "you haven't seen our daughter Antitonic anywhere by chance, have you?" I shake my head. "No. When did you last see her?" 
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Yay, I got mentioned! 
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Wow, The Archivist is double-legendary? Make her Militia!
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Huh. I didn't realize being made of snow made it quite *that* fragile. I was expecting it to take clubbing, at least.
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22nd Slate 243 The miners Teddles and Slick Slinky enter my office with some parchments marked with charcoal. Teddles speaks. "Jazzimus, our exploratory mining has uncovered all of the northern magma sea. There is still more to explore farther to the south, but first we wanted to let you know that we've found a second adamantine spire, far to the west of the first spire." They show me the parchments.  View descending from the forges to the bottom of the magma sea 24th Slate 243 The search for Antitonic continues.  Rurik, who has been leading a search party for Antitonic, enters my office. Although Rurik has been unable to walk for a long time, he is still able to move around the fortress faster than most ambulatory dwarves can.  "Have you found Antitonic?" I ask. "I'm sorry to report this, sir. We found a body near the magma pipe that was burned beyond all recognition, and the clothes were badly charred. Only the shoes were intact, and the shoes were recognized as Antitonic's by her parents."  My heart sinks. "Are there any leads as to how this could have happened?" I ask. "The scorch marks around the site were consistent with thrown fireballs from magma creatures. We think it was most likely a fire imp, as they have been seen in that area occasionally."   Note that the double exclamation marks indicate that her trousers are on fire. I just happened to notice that Antitonic was on fire from the Units list before she died, so I took this screenshot, but none of the dwarves actually saw it happen. I think I may need to seal all of the exits to the caverns before another tragedy can strike. 27th Slate 243 Two dwarves now have died under my watch here. I suppose that in a large fortress like this one, such things can happen, even in peacetime. Sometimes it almost seems like there are just too many dwarves here for one dwarf such as myself to manage.  Two hundred dwarves is more than plenty for a fortress. I can't imagine that any more could ever possibly want to move into such a crowded place. As I am thinking to myself, Three Phase the Neurotic, who had been guarding the front gate, comes into my office with news. 
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You know how you were asking for projects overseer? Yeah, I have a project for you. The Antitonic Memorial Statue Garden. And I'm mandating the construction of Fire Imp Skull Totems for the statue garden. Stick them on obsidian pedestals. That'll show them. You can put in statues of dwarves striking down fire imps if you really want - I'm not picky.
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That's a whole lot of recoverable adamantium in the magma sea. Look at all those one-tile-wide spurs sticking out.
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Drain the magma sea and dump it into hell, you say?
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Slashrat posted:Drain the magma sea and dump it into hell, you say? I know how to do this. And kill the entire demon rush that occurs upon hellbreach with one simple dwarf-built device. I'll explain only with the general permission of the thread. Neddy Seagoon fucked around with this message at 09:23 on Oct 19, 2012 |
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27th Slate 243 I stand on the drawbridge of Bronzestabbed, flanked by hammerer Vox Nihili and Leperfish, looking out upon the assembled throng outside the gates. Dear sweet Armok, this is going to be a pain in the rear end, I think to myself. I clear my throat. The dwarves outside continue to chatter amongst themselves. I clear my throat again, in a more obvious attempt to get everyone's attention. This seems to have no effect. I turn to Leperfish. He simply rolls his eyes. "Dwarves? Dwarves. My fellow dwarves," I shout. Still no effect. I turn to Vox Nihili, standing beside me on the drawbridge. "Can you help me out here?" I ask him under my breath. Vox Nihili nods, then takes several purposeful steps forward, before slamming his huge steel warhammer onto the bridge itself. A circular imprint is left upon the stone bridge, and small cracks radiate outward from it, making it look almost like an imprint of a child's caricature of the Sun. "SHUT THE gently caress UP! YOUR FUTURE OVERSEER, JAZZIMUS, IS SPEAKING!" shouts Vox Nihili. The crowd quiets abruptly. With renewed confidence, I cheerfully shout, "Migrants! Welcome to Bronzestabbed, the new Mountainhome of the Rare Ship! Queen Sankis has approved your applications to immigrate, and has assigned each of you an alias, which henceforth will be your identity here in Bronzestabbed. So, without further ado..." I walk forward from the drawbridge and address each dwarf in turn, by what will for all intents and purposes be his or her new name going forward. "LLSix, Shukaro, sharktamer, Steve, DorfXaos, Wulles, Nidhhogg, Donkringel, JollyPubJerk, UseBees, Segway Rave, Potato Jones, Nemo2342, Debonaire Dwarf, Larz, Esme, Kennel, Volmarias, Dr Tough, Lazy Trebuchet, Schir, Penguingo, Sighence, Viper, Doctore Appel, Danilh, ProfessorGroove, HUNDREDHOGS, and TheGroove," I address them. "Within this fortress, our bookkeeper Leperfish, standing on the bridge," I say with a gesture towards him, "will assess your skills, relationships, and other relevant information. Please queue up into a single file and follow him into the fortress proper." The dwarves form a line and follow Leperfish into the fortress. Once they have all passed us by, Vox Nihili turns to me. "There's no way in hell Jazzimus was your real name when you got here," he says. "No, it was Nil Dumatromlam, but Sankis had instructed me to take the alias Jazzimus. So that's who I am now." We turn and walk back into the fortress together. Jazzimus Prime fucked around with this message at 10:31 on Oct 19, 2012 |
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Oct 19, 2012 10:28
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Wow! I made it to the fort and wasn't immediately drafted to fight a forgotten beast!
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Donkringel posted:Wow! I made it to the fort and wasn't immediately drafted to fight a forgotten beast! Immediately draft this guy and make him fight a forgotten beast
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Boing posted:Immediately draft this guy and make him fight a forgotten beast I say he's as good a candidate to be our next test subject in project MURK. 
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Neddy Seagoon posted:I know how to do this. And kill the entire demon rush that occurs upon hellbreach with one simple dwarf-built device. I'll explain only with the general permission of the thread. I would honestly love to know, but I'll understand if that's not something for the thread (though what a glorious project it would be!). Is there a link elsewhere with the knowledge?
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StrangeAeon posted:I would honestly love to know, but I'll understand if that's not something for the thread (though what a glorious project it would be!). Is there a link elsewhere with the knowledge? Yeah, I wasn't actually sure if it'd be appropriate for here, hence why I thought I'd wait for permission from everyone. I might see if it's okay to share it in the general DF megathread otherwise.
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Boing posted:Immediately draft this guy and make him fight a forgotten beast My dwarf also always makes an expensive artifact, so wait for me to do that first. 
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I'm glad he's dead. The last thing this place needs is a liar liar pants on fire.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Yeah, I wasn't actually sure if it'd be appropriate for here, hence why I thought I'd wait for permission from everyone. I might see if it's okay to share it in the general DF megathread otherwise. I'd say that's more of a thing for the general DF thread personally, efficiency sucks for DF LPs. Unless you'll be suggesting something that backfires hilariously, in which case go for it.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Whatwhatwhatwhatwhatwhat?!??! Are people even allowed to double up on Goonery like this? I thought Lowtax sacrificed Harry Secombe to fire up the SA servers back in 1999. I'm sure I heard that this sort of thing causes the sort of anti-matter cataclysm that lead to Milligans death as well
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Pozzo posted:Are people even allowed to double up on Goonery like this? I thought Lowtax sacrificed Harry Secombe to fire up the SA servers back in 1999. I'm sure I heard that this sort of thing causes the sort of anti-matter cataclysm that lead to Milligans death as well You silly, twisted boy. If I was going to be a goon, I was going to take the best goon as my username Grittybeard posted:I'd say that's more of a thing for the general DF thread personally, efficiency sucks for DF LPs. Unless you'll be suggesting something that backfires hilariously, in which case go for it. It's simple and effective  . I shared it in the general megathread for anyone interested.
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My hammer is at the ready if we need to thin a few "criminals" from the writhing, ever-growing mass of dwarves. I mean, how can we support both a "ProfessorGroove" and a "TheGroove" at once? Best to preempt any confusion with a bit of legally-mandated bloodshed.
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Vox Nihili posted:My hammer is at the ready if we need to thin a few "criminals" from the writhing, ever-growing mass of dwarves. Which is the right one to eliminate? Whichever one your hammer finds first!
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Vox Nihili posted:My hammer is at the ready if we need to thin a few "criminals" from the writhing, ever-growing mass of dwarves. Speaking of which, is Vox Nihil in this game as well?
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Teddles posted:Every now and then, I check back to see if my dwarf is dead yet. He never is I know the feeling. My dwarf vanished into the crowd the moment she arrived. No idea what she's up to now, but given her starting skills she's probably a hauler. Eh. It's a living.
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JosephWongKS posted:Speaking of which, is Vox Nihil in this game as well? He hasn't posted in over a year, it seems. Too bad, could have had some shenanigans.
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