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Tias
May 25, 2008

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Bad Munki posted:

Wood is a remarkably plentiful resource, you're just not going about the gathering process right.

1) Build trade depot
2) Wait for elves to show up
3) Seize all logs
4) Make charcoal

You forgot:

3b) Stab all elf traders and their beardless guards in the kidneys till death comes on swift rocky wings for the cheek of coming here with their voluntarily shaped magic-forged wood items and then refusing our stout lumbercraft in return!


Anyway, fantastic stuff Leperfish! I hope to contribute more in this fortress than Gemclod, being conscripted and spitting myself on a goblin blade days after arriving :(

Tias fucked around with this message at 16:13 on Jul 3, 2012

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Antitonic
Sep 24, 2011

Invented By Gandhi

Black Griffon posted:

That's the ironic hipster drink of the dwarves. Pabst Blue Ribbon, Red Stripe, all that poo poo. When you've tasted the subtleties of limestone with a hint of native gold, and dolomite, you'll change your mind. Or imagine the exquisite taste of mead, kept in an adamantine barrel for five years, infused with shavings of steel and bronze and poured in flasks of perfect obsidian. Toady, get the gently caress on this right now.

I was just trying to draw a dwarf with a monocle, holding a brandy glass filled with sparkly bits and a severed elves' ear, but my tablet skills are quite outclassed by the vision. I'll have to come up with another way to contribute...

Rurik
Mar 5, 2010

Thief
Warrior
Gladiator
Grand Prince
Making fun of elves is fun, but I'm seconding the request that we don't piss elves off on purpose. I want to have the exotic animals they bring (so they can run off into the murk...)

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused

markus_cz posted:

Hooray for Leperfish, long live the next overseer!

Can we make wishes now?

Because I think the LP is ripe for a big change of pace now. While I did love Leperfish's updates, I don't think another year of the same would be entertaining. I can only spend so much time reading about day-to-ady workings of the fortress, designating stockpiles, ordering poo poo from traders, building fisheries and making roasts. Leperfish made it sound interesting thanks to his writing, but I'm afraid it would soon get boring now.

So whoever ends up being the new overseer, my advice is - do NOT write about menial things AT ALL, unless they're really important. We've seen it so many times already, both in other LPs and in our own games. Find other stuff to write about.

Fortunately, there seems to be some drama conveniently looming just above the fortress.

What exactly do you expect people to write about then? That's what happens most of the time in DF. Obviously when an enemy shows up you should focus on that but I don't see how explaining what goes on in the fort is bad. Obviously I'm not talking about reporting everytime Urist McCook makes a plump helmet roast ubt I
d like to know what things the overseer is planning to build/dig out/etc.

Vault Vanderhuge
Aug 11, 2011
Behold Chunder Road

Rurik posted:

Making fun of elves is fun, but I'm seconding the request that we don't piss elves off on purpose. I want to have the exotic animals they bring (so they can run off into the murk...)

This. How will we get all these exciting new undead hellbeasts if we don't have exciting new beasts to run off into the nasty crap?

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
So, to catalog the requests for the next overseer, what I'm seeing a lot of is:

1. Streamline the "basics". No need to explain every order of boots and stews.

2. Don't piss off the elves if at all possible.

3. Buy lots of exotic animals, and get up to hilarious shenanigans with them.

4. Do something cool. This first year was pretty mundane.

5. Come up with a way to sterilize the dwarves of the dust the fiendish murk leaves behind, otherwise there will be an inevitable and unsurvivable zombie apocalypse.

girl dick energy fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Jul 3, 2012

Nettle Soup
Jan 30, 2010

Oh, and Jones was there too.

I'm happy with us pissing off the elves. :) It takes ages to get them really upset anyway. Honestly I don't mind what the next overseer does, so long as they keep up the pace.

Nettle Soup fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Jul 3, 2012

White-Devil
Aug 15, 2009

Colon V posted:

So, to catalog the requests for the next overseer, what I'm seeing a lot of is:

1. Streamline the "basics". No need to explain every order of boots and stews.

2. Don't piss off the elves if at all possible.

3. Buy lots of exotic animals, and get up to hilarious shenanigans with them.

4. Do something cool. This first year was pretty mundane.

5. Come up with a way to sterilize the dwarves of the dust the fiendish murk leaves behind, otherwise there will be an inevitable and unsurvivable zombie apocalypse.


6. Minecart rollercoaster/transportation system.

Also, I hope that bird leaves the area soon. Truly these are dangerous times.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Thrown my name in the hat for next year. I've run a few forts in the latest update, but I accept I'm probably not as experienced as the other names on the list (I suspect only Toady is more experienced than those)

markus_cz
May 10, 2009

Internet Kraken posted:

What exactly do you expect people to write about then? That's what happens most of the time in DF. Obviously when an enemy shows up you should focus on that but I don't see how explaining what goes on in the fort is bad. Obviously I'm not talking about reporting everytime Urist McCook makes a plump helmet roast ubt I
d like to know what things the overseer is planning to build/dig out/etc.

Well, I've always upheld the theory that in order to write a good Dwarf Fortress LP - or any LP, come to think of it - it isn't enough just to write about what happens in the game, but you need to actively make the game interesting and then write about it. This is especially true with Dwarf Fortress which can get, let's face it, pretty boring and repetitive easily.

I'm not saying you should never write about normal day-to-day occurences in the fortress. Do write about them. But use them as the foundation that you use to build something thrilling and exciting. If menial stuff becomes the main part of overseer updates, though, then unless you're a really good writer the LP will get boring and die off.

There's a reason why people only remember and quote the same four SA DF LPs all over, even though we've had about a dozen of them already.

Loden Taylor
Aug 11, 2003

Leperflesh really did a great job with building a believable and coherent foundation for this fort's story. That's going to be a tough act to follow, though if past DF LPs have taught me anything, it's that successive overseers are good at ramping up the excitement/madness.

Also, I'm really glad the murk does horrible things; it would've been a bit of an anti-climax at this point if it just made things nauseous. Although flocks of nauseous birds vomiting on the fortress from far above would have been pretty funny.

mtrc
Mar 29, 2011

THE FUTURE, YOU GUYS

White-Devil posted:

Also, I hope that bird leaves the area soon. Truly these are dangerous times.

I'm kind of hoping the opposite. That way in the film version it can be used as an opening/closing motif, and easy promotional material stuff.

I'm thinking TwoFace from Batman crossed with that CG movie about owls.

Boing
Jul 12, 2005

trapped in custom title factory, send help

Leperflesh posted:

It was a momentous occasion and I had all of their attention.

A dwarf cannot mistake a moment of history being made. I beheld their faces and saw in their eyes commitment to this singular revelation of dwarfhood. Can there be any greater privilege in life, than to be a part of such an event? I felt the presence of Etest, god of fortresses, metals, and war. Igest Nestethkurol inspired my words. All the true gods heard me in that moment, and I aspired to make my words worthy.

“In the annals of our people, it will forevermore be written that in the Early Spring of 236, in The Hill of Rewarding, Ritholducim founded for the glory of all Akrelzuglar the fortress Kilrudzat: Bronzestabbed. Strike the earth!”

Year One (Leperfish)


(maybe if I do this enough I'll get decent at it)

Boing fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Jul 3, 2012

Clocks
Oct 2, 2007



I decided to check out and play DF thanks to this LP (I had tried it once before and played for a couple of hours, but it was hard to get a grip on) and I can agree that elves are dicks.

An elven caravan arrived and I had my goods dragged to the depo. I selected all the bins but then I paused. Thanks to DF LPs and previous knowledge, well, elves are kind of finnicky about wood (even though they build poo poo out of it themselves? what?), so I went and checked the wiki. "Don't trade anything wooden!" it said. Whoops, all right. I went through and de-selected the bins and manually selected the couple hundred crafts or whatever I had to trade. Chose the stuff I wanted to buy from the elves, hit trade and... "WE'RE NOT TRADING WITH YOU WAAAH"

What?? Apparently I had forgotten to deselect a bin with ONE item in it. And that hosed me over for that year. Goddamn it.

Anyway, that epilogue was great, and I'm curious to see what direction the next overseer takes. It'll be hard to top the writing, I think!

Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008
Yeah, elves are finicky. Offer them just one wooden item (or one item created through the use of wood, if I remember right) and off they gently caress, leading their caravans of cloth, seeds, and angry caged animals away.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
For what it's worth, due to a bug(?) which may or may not still exist, elves tend to bring more savage animals and other such things when they're mad at you. So pissing them off one year can actually pay off.

Loden Taylor
Aug 11, 2003

Boing posted:

Year One (Leperfish)


(maybe if I do this enough I'll get decent at it)

This is cool. It conveys the feel of the first year of a fortress; mining, building, and relentless labor.

Black Griffon
Mar 12, 2005

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are. You are destiny.


Boing posted:

(maybe if I do this enough I'll get decent at it)

You will! This one is better than the last one, so never stop making them.

Pickled Tink
Apr 28, 2012

Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.



Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.
Fun Shoe

White-Devil posted:

Also, I hope that bird leaves the area soon. Truly these are dangerous times.
It will not. Undead created on a map will never leave. You have to kill them.

This makes necromantic regions particularly dangerous, since everything that wanders in and gets clobbered by your dwarves will become a permanent resident, so you'll be swiftly overrun unless you figure out a way to dispose of them forever.

As this is a murk, and not a cloud of ash, It is quite likely we will not have the doomsday scenario of infectious undead to deal with. Since we never got a look at the kestrel, our attempts to study the undead are understandably hindered.

Request for next overseer: Provide screenshot of undead kestrels description.

Black Griffon
Mar 12, 2005

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are. You are destiny.


Well, I'm hoping one the overseers will devise a magma related plan to take care of the undead creatures. Not only does it have the potential to completely destroy the fortress, but it won't do squat about the birds!

The best kind of Dwarf Fortress plans.

Woozey
Feb 20, 2011

RIGHT NOW MY POTENTIAL IS LITERALLY THAT OF A WORM
Well, the goal sorta is to battle the land itself, not the monsters is produces, and what better way for that than burning it clean with the purifying fire of magma?

Triskelli
Sep 27, 2011

I AM A SKELETON
WITH VERY HIGH
STANDARDS


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_03F49thJ6s



2nd Granite

I have seen fiendish kestrel which now plagues Bronzestabbed.

I saw it for only a moment, but was filled with more dread than in all my hundred years. My expert comedy fails me, there was no joy in what I saw.

The kestrel... hung. It did not fly, it did not soar. It did not flit, flirt nor hover as birds do. It hung over the savanna lands, as an omen placed by a vengeful god. Its feathers falling out, its eyes milky white. And yet it stared, head downward and still no matter how its body was buffeted by cold winter gust.

Kraken intends to slay it. I hold doubts. This is no slavering beast, but a spry omenbird. It will not be easily pierced by arrow or hewn by sword. It watches us now, eyes of Ugath focused on us dwarves that would oppose the evil that inhabits this land.

I do not think

I have I have buried my demons regrets of my past, I have lived a humble life as a fisherdwarf. I know not what shall happen next, but I hope pray that should anything happen to the dwarves of Bronzestabbed, that Crackmaster and I shall be allowed to depart this world together, hand in hand.

Triskelli fucked around with this message at 23:30 on Jul 3, 2012

Tias
May 25, 2008

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Rurik posted:

Making fun of elves is fun, but I'm seconding the request that we don't piss elves off on purpose. I want to have the exotic animals they bring (so they can run off into the murk...)

I'd have you dipped in lava for that remark! :argh:

Seriously though, elves are pants, we should seize their goods, shun them, and have yet another enemy - Skulls for the throne of Ugath :black101:

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused

White-Devil posted:

Also, I hope that bird leaves the area soon. Truly these are dangerous times.

It's smaller than a kitten.

sum
Nov 15, 2010

Tias posted:

Seriously though, elves are pants, we should seize their goods, shun them, and have yet another enemy - Skulls for the throne of Ugath :black101:

Idea:
1. Build a wall around the fort so that any sieger must make camp in the haunted savannah
2. Piss off elves by repeatedly stealing their awesome exotic animals from their caravans
3. Wait for a fiendish murk to roll through their camp
4. Defeat any future enemy of Bronzestabbed with the undead army of zombie elves outside our walls

This is a flawless plan and should be implemented immediately.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

i poo poo trains posted:

Idea:
1. Build a wall around the fort so that any sieger must make camp in the haunted savannah
2. Piss off elves by repeatedly stealing their awesome exotic animals from their caravans
3. Wait for a fiendish murk to roll through their camp
4. Defeat any future enemy of Bronzestabbed with the undead army of zombie elves outside our walls

This is a flawless plan and should be implemented immediately.
Correction: this plan should include building a graveyard in the murk zone at some point. Fresh reinforcements! (also the fun of having to fight zombies every time we go out to bury someone)

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Internet Kraken posted:

It's smaller than a kitten.

Ha! Spoken like someone who has never faced down a diving kestral in the field. Some facts: "kestral" means "god-eater," and there is no known instance of an unarmed human slaying one of these incredible powerhouses. Look, and know fear:

Boing
Jul 12, 2005

trapped in custom title factory, send help

Loden Taylor posted:

This is cool. It conveys the feel of the first year of a fortress; mining, building, and relentless labor.

Thanks! I'm glad that came across. Quality of writing aside, not much really happened this year so that hopeful sense of establishing an outpost was all I had to go on. Future overseer years might have more concrete themes that should be easier to write around.

Chickenfrogman
Sep 16, 2011

by exmarx

i poo poo trains posted:

Idea:
1. Build a wall around the fort so that any sieger must make camp in the haunted savannah
2. Piss off elves by repeatedly stealing their awesome exotic animals from their caravans
3. Wait for a fiendish murk to roll through their camp
4. Defeat any future enemy of Bronzestabbed with the undead army of zombie elves outside our walls

This is a flawless plan and should be implemented immediately.

This man is a genius and all he demands must be done. Zombie army of elves being manipulated by their proper dwarven masters must be made a reality.

Schneeble
May 4, 2010

The grandest hats
or GTFO.

Vox Nihili posted:

Ha! Spoken like someone who has never faced down a diving kestral in the field. Some facts: "kestral" means "god-eater," and there is no known instance of an unarmed human slaying one of these incredible powerhouses. Look, and know fear:



:neckbeard:

Only... now I'm depressed thinking about an undead version of this. We must end the murk and put a stop to the senseless zombification of adorable raptors!

TildeATH
Oct 21, 2010

by Lowtax

Vox Nihili posted:

"kestral" means "god-eater"

The next overseer should trap the zombie kestrel and name it whatever this is in Dwarfspeak. And then mount the cage somewhere dark and dastardly.

Vault Vanderhuge
Aug 11, 2011
Behold Chunder Road

Schneeble posted:

:neckbeard:

Only... now I'm depressed thinking about an undead version of this. We must end the murk and put a stop to the senseless zombification of adorable raptors!

I could get behind that. Kestrels (Kestrals? I can't spell you!) are adorable and I too am now bummed out about the undead version. :(

Krysmphoenix
Jul 29, 2010

Boing posted:

Year One (Leperfish)


(maybe if I do this enough I'll get decent at it)

Boy, you are decent at this already, and more. :allears: I think I heard bits of the standard theme that plays already in Fortress Mode. Perfect for the "getting things started" mood Leperfish had in his updates.

Triskelli
Sep 27, 2011

I AM A SKELETON
WITH VERY HIGH
STANDARDS


TildeATH posted:

The next overseer should trap the zombie kestrel and name it whatever this is in Dwarfspeak. And then mount the cage somewhere dark and dastardly.

For anyone interested, the closest parse is nòm-deb (God-eat), but some other fine choices for names include:

bunsoth: God-forsaken
ugog: bane
sog: conquerer
noshtath: devourer.
zotir: fiend

Also, interesting bit in the files: Apparently Ugath is the dwarven word for "belch". Never change, DF.

Triskelli fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Jul 4, 2012

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused
If the kestrel actually manages to kill something the game will give it a name. The dwarf it kills will also be forever shamed.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Hey everyone!

The end of the 24 hour period is approaching pretty soon. I thought I'd let you guys know that I've uploaded the save, along with various other useful bits of information, to the Bronzestabbed overseer's wiki page here:
http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaign/bronzestabbed/wikis/main-page

This page does contain mild spoilers. The downloads contain complete spoilers, of course. Those of you who wanted to grab the save in order to poke around and make maps and stuff are now free to do so: I remind you however that you are honor-bound not to post spoilers, including mere hints of spoilers.

A few weeks ago I wrote up a document with some help and guidance for overseers, but, I neglected to back it up to all my various places when I headed off to the Great White North. Consequently I won't be able to provide it to anyone until I get home, which happens next Sunday night late. Probably it's mostly unnecessary for whoever takes their next turn anyway.

Right now there are 10 people on the list (I took care of your accident Colon V) so that's a pretty good number. There's even three people I don't really recognize, so maybe we'll get new blood. Or perhaps we'll get a DF LP veteran, we'll have to see.

Thanks again for all your kind words and compliments.

Um. Yeah I didn't really plan how the year was going to end, it just kind of worked out beautifully, with a creature getting infected within days of the end of the year, me noticing a cardinal to kind of tie in to the prologue, all that stuff just fell together and fit really well with what I'd already written. This has been an amazing project to work on so far, and has really helped me get over a certain sort of writers' block.

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


You just posted here to dick with us by not actually telling us who's next, didn't you? Admit it!

PublicOpinion
Oct 21, 2010

Her style is new but the face is the same as it was so long ago...
10 people, eh? Well obviously now you have to choose by rolling a d10.

OrangeSoda
Oct 8, 2007

OrangeSoda digivolved into Monzaemon!

OrangeSoda has unlocked BEAR POWERS!
Oh boy, I can't wait for the inevitable zombie apocalypse caused by murk shenanigans.

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girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

PublicOpinion posted:

10 people, eh? Well obviously now you have to choose by rolling a d10.
I demand he roll a d20 numbered 1 to 10 twice. We're gonna do this traditional.

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