In Illinois even 1st-time DUIs must now install ignition-interlock - And it's expensive

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-dui-lawdec29,0,1167021.story

Tougher driving comes with DUI conviction
If new mandated sensors detect alcohol, car won't start

By Monique Garcia | Tribune reporter
December 29, 2008

Motorists busted for drunken driving in Illinois after Wednesday will have
to blow into a device to prove their sobriety every time they get behind
the wheel—or their vehicle won't start.

The measure, one of the strictest in the nation, is aimed at first-time
offenders convicted of driving under the influence. Those convicted will
have 14 days to get a breath-alcohol ignition-interlock device installed in
their vehicle's dash. With the device, if a driver has a blood-alcohol
content above 0.024, the engine won't start.

As many as 40,000 offenders a year could be affected by the new law, which
the General Assembly unanimously passed in 2007.

Illinois is at least the fourth state to require the devices for first-time
offenders, following New Mexico, Arizona and Louisiana, according to the
National Conference of State Legislatures.

The gadgets also will require drivers be tested periodically while the car
is running. Drivers will have to blow into the device again within the
first 5 to 15 minutes of a trip, then at least twice every hour.

If alcohol is then detected, the device instructs the driver to pull over
to side of road and the engine is stopped. A report goes to the secretary
of state's office for review and additional punishment is meted out.

The law isn't foolproof. There's nothing to prevent someone convicted of
DUI from driving a car without the ignition-lock device. But the penalties
for skirting the law are severe: if caught and convicted, a driver faces up
to 3 years in jail.

The devices cost the driver $80 for installation and about $80 a month to
rent. The secretary of state will charge another $30 a month to monitor
drivers and administer the program.

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I like this but i still think we also need to make DUI a felony in all
cases. That would hurt rich people as much as the poor. The cost of this
gadget -$110 a month - will kill the poor but won't faze richies at all.

wow. Now try to find something about Illinios new laws against cyber
crimes. TIA

And you can bet that law will be quickly contested and thrown out.
It's already legal to drive with BAC of 0.024, which, BTW, is roughly
2 cans of beer depending upon body weight.

The requirement to stop so often is pure bullshit.

Then, how is that machine gonna know it's your breath? DNA?
Yeah, right. It takes nearly two weeks of testing to get even a decent
DNA sample and then it's not foolproof.

Then let them wait the two weeks before they can start their car.

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Whatssa matter, you fucking lush? You upset because you can't afford
the interlock and as such can't legally drive? Just do us a favor and
blow your head off now and put yourself out of your misery, you
useless piece of shit.

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Drunk driving is the biggest crime problem in america and you libertarian
loons say do nothing!!

Bullis Mason, on the job as usual.

I would REALLY, REALLY like to see you cite a source for that statement. I'm
just going to ignore the fact that you're encouraging drinking and driving
behind the wheel of a truck.

Well we know you have no weight in your head, at least.

Because drinking and driving is perfectly safe, right fucknut??

You're st00pid, so you're not expected to be able to know how a breathalyzer
works, let alone anything else.

DNA isn't foolproof? Damn, you're off to a good st00pid start for the New
Year.

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bullis isn't libertarian or a loon. He's just st00pid.

We supported tying your hands behind your back so you'd have to
type with your nose.

Good idea.

If you are a drunk with a suspended license, your (underscore "your")
car gets harder mto drive if you alcohol on your breath.

If it was me, you get convicted of DUI, you get a board five feet loong
bolted to your ass, so you can't get into a car.

So what happens if a person is driving down an interstate highway at 70
MPH, the device asks them for a test, and the person refuses the test.
Will the engine stop while traveling at 70 MPH? Power brakes and power
steering don't work very well with a dead engine. So an accident happens
and the state of Illinois will be just as liable as the dumbass driver.
I guess it will keep the lawyers busy suing the state and the driver?

"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and
degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing is
worth a war, is worse." --- John Stuart Mill: 

What happens if he _doesn't_ refuse the test, and is distracted long enough to
fail to notice traffic stopping suddenly, hit the rear vehicle, and kills
somebody in it?

People shouldn't be having to fiddle with such gadgets at speed.

Well, gosh. Maybe they will have to pull over and stop, like they do
when they want to talk on the cell-phone.

Or may be they should not drink, drive, get arrested, and so on, in the
first place.

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It is illegal to stop on an interstate highway in many states, except for an
emergency. Those pulling over to talk on the phone are illegal, too.

Yeah, that's for sure.

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Oh no - drinking and driving are constitutional rights. The libertarian
loons proved that years ago.

So, how many kids have you killed with your drinking and driving, you
super patroit american (sic) retard?

Oh, yeah, thanks for the new .sig, you asshole.
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Bullis never completed the fourth grade.

That would make it rather messy when going to the bathroom wouldn't it

Not if the board was from the the seat of an old outhouse.

They could use a diaper.

Does this mean that you actually know Latin? What is the proper translation of
"Don't let the bastards grind you down"? I'm pretty sure it's not 'Non
illegitimi carborundum" but I could be wrong.

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No, it does not mean that.

But I do think I remember reading that word order is not important in Latin.

I thought it was "Illegitimi non carborundum", but I also think I
remember that somebody ho knew said it was nonsense no matter how you
write it.

http://www.answers.com/topic/nolite-te-bastardes-carborundorum
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And I meant to add:

is my invention with advice of Latin for "Rest in Peace, Email" (I used
to be a spam-fighting admin, and thin email-as-we-know it is dead or
soon will be.

is lawyer-latin for something line "you can't come to court with dirty
hands"

> Eppure si rinfresca

is a paraphrase (I forget whether I invented it or stole it) of
Galileo's sassing of Pope Paul V with the Latin for "But still it [the
Earth] moves." The paraphrase is a sassing of Pope Algore I with
fractured Latin for "But still it cools".

Since "carborundum" is actually a trademark (derived from corundum,
aluminum oxide), you'd be right. And even corundum isn't Latin,
despite the "um" -- it's from Tamil.

Alas, "illegitimi" is just as fake.

Wikipedia suggests "Noli nothis permittere te terere".
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Or maybe the legal limit shouldn't be .08, which isn't even a hint of a
buzz, let alone
anywhere near drunk