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kpete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 10:26 PM Original message |
Gotcha! Gallup Commits "Polling Malpractice" Startling New Info/Controversy on Poll |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
1. We've known that Gallup polls were bought and sold for a while, this is more proof. |
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rebel with a cause (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 10:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. My college stats classes taught us the most important thing |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 11:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. Someone published their weighting formula back in 2004 |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 08:30 PM Response to Reply #12 |
24. They do that simply by oversampling Republicans. That's how they weight it. nt |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 08:31 AM Response to Reply #12 |
49. No question Gallup is pro Republican. |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
2. I just KNEW that those polls had to be a crock of u-know-what!!!! |
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youngharry (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
31. Gallup polls |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
3. We gotta do something! |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
4. Call me a tin-foil hatter... |
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Psyop Samurai (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 10:48 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Totally agree. nt |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:53 PM Response to Reply #7 |
59. and I second that "totally agree" |
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DCKit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 10:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. You and me, both. And I don't need the hat. |
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Lugnut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 12:46 AM Response to Reply #4 |
13. There's no horse race. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 09:27 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. That fugging simple |
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AzDar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 04:03 AM Response to Reply #4 |
14. Spot-on. |
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alstephenson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 12:23 PM Response to Reply #4 |
20. I totally agree, too, TwoSparkles. |
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LonelyLRLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 05:50 PM Response to Reply #4 |
21. Yep, setting up a "close race" scenario to cover up planned theft of the election. |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 09:29 PM Response to Reply #4 |
33. My money's on "easier to steal." |
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DebJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 09:33 PM Response to Reply #4 |
34. Only way to keep the t.v. ratings and the polls themselves going. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 09:37 PM Response to Reply #4 |
36. A frigg'n cheat is in the works. You can bet on that. |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 11:17 PM Response to Reply #4 |
39. I believe you are absolutely right. |
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dreamnightwind (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 11:54 PM Response to Reply #4 |
40. OK, you're a tin-foil hatter. |
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RNdaSilva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 02:39 AM Response to Reply #4 |
43. TwoSparkles, |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
6. I took a poll and determined that Gallup is 90% full of shit. |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 08:24 AM Response to Reply #6 |
47. Heavily weighted towards flies? |
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hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 10:57 PM Response to Original message |
9. I always wondered how it was that a polling agency could |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 11:07 PM Response to Original message |
10. I need to ask this question.... |
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IndependentDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 09:46 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. sounds like a good idea to me... let me know if it goes anywhere. n/t |
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liskddksil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 10:23 AM Response to Reply #10 |
18. college /university polls are usually good indicators |
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progressive_realist (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
11. My first thought when I saw this poll was that they mis-weighted the parties |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
15. POLL FRAUD MUST PRECEDE VOTE FRAUD |
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DearAbby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 11:03 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Ding ding ding....n/t |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 08:35 PM Response to Reply #15 |
26. Yes, and clean up the mess after with fudged exit polls.... |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 09:18 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Here is the skinny the way I see it... |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
22. So the Gallup poll is essentially stupid |
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Politicalboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
23. I thought they were wrong |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
25. Gallop is a disgrace to this nation. It is biased claptrap and |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
27. Pollster company has become a whore |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
28. McCain is to Maverick as Gallup is to Polls both are working hard to lose their brand |
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Willo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
29. Translation: we have successfully scrubbed the voter registrations lists |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
32. Here is the skinny the way I see it... |
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Phred42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
35. Malpractice MY ASS - IT IS FRAUD! Fascist FRAUD - let's wake up |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
37. Ever since Warren Mitofsky created the "reluctant responder" theory the professional has degenerated |
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dreamnightwind (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:03 AM Response to Reply #37 |
41. yes! |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
38. Bastards! |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 01:28 AM Response to Original message |
42. There are lies, there are damned lies, and finally there are statistics. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 04:25 AM Response to Original message |
44. Guess who is more likely to respond to polls in the midst of summer?! |
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riverdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 04:48 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Yes, a lot of people have gotten rid of their land lines completely. |
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DallasNE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 07:56 AM Response to Original message |
46. This Poll Doesn't Even Give Gallup What They Were Looking For |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 08:30 AM Response to Original message |
48. They got away with this because you all gave them credence when they |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:14 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. And lest we forget.... |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:19 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. My understanding is that the Truman poll was done by telephone and |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:21 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. A polling co. searching for the truth would have understood that and acted accordingly. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:23 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. I suspect that polling was not then the science that it is now. |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:35 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. Is this a joke? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
50. Of course the "polls" are being fixed --- always have been --- |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. ...so figure out that the truth is probably disastrous to GOP/McCain --- |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
52. KICK KICK because I believe it isn't fair to even-out likely voters |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
54. Pugs are 5 star cooks (at least to pugs) when it comes to cooking the books |
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