Bush signs new space policy

<http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6063926.stm>

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Gareth Slee

Notice that our first and primary 'space goal' is security.
This sounds like something Kissinger would write.
The White House is like a computer.
White trash in....white trash out.

3. United States Space Policy Goals

The fundamental goals of this policy are to:

• Strengthen the nation’s space leadership and ensure that space
capabilities are available in time to further U.S. national security,
homeland security, and foreign policy objectives;

Wouldn't be surprised, President Bush uses a
science....fiction...writer for his advisor on global
warming. You know him, the guy that wrote
Jurassic Park.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/02/crichton_for_bu.html

Good. That's what we need. Another Cold War to get the Space Race
moving again.

;-)

What bugs me about that policy statement is the part "available in time
to.."

In time for N Korea??? I hope the time frame he's talking about
isn't before he leaves. I just have this feeling Bush has one more
campaign in mind for those last few months in office.

Rusty

Gareth Slee wrote:

Yeah, I saw this one coming a mile off- this is out of that "Rebuilding
America's Defenses" study of Cheney's PNAC again:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century

"The PNAC and its members had long called for the United States to
abandon the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty between the US and the Soviet
Union, from which the US withdrew in 2002. The PNAC also proposes to
control the new "international commons" of space and "cyberspace" and
pave the way for the creation of a new military service — U.S. Space
Forces — with the mission of space control. In 1998, Donald Rumsfeld
chaired a bipartisan commission on the US Ballistic Missile Threat
toward advancement of these goals. It is unclear how "space control"
will affect US adherence to the Outer Space Treaty. President George W.
Bush stated in his address to the nation on September 11, 2006 [4] that
the war on terror "will set the course for this new century and
determine the destiny of millions across the world." "

You watch- that whole "manned Moon mission" with its Ares boosters
(named after the Greek god of war) is somehow tied in with all his.

Pat

Rusty wrote:

>Here is the link to the PDF file:
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>"U.S. National Space Policy" - August 31, 2006
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>http://www.ostp.gov/html/US%20National%20Space%20Policy.pdf
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>http://www.ostp.gov/
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That I'm going to read.

Pat

Ob PNAC: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5118378453564883406

130t weapon platforms in LEO?

Jochem

--
"A designer knows he has arrived at perfection not when there is no
longer anything to add, but when there is no longer anything to take away."
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Jochem Huhmann wrote:

Considering that the CEV is now "Orion" who know's _what_ exactly they
have in mind. :-\
You could build one of those with an Ares V type launcher- the original
design was to be built using Saturn V's.
I still get a kick out of the Energia-launched Polyus battle station:
http://www.astronautix.com/craft/polyus.htm
I found some nice info on that terror over here BTW:
http://www.buran.ru/htm/cargo.htm
Lots of nice photos, including the big red Soviet Air Force star on the
side pod, and the nuclear space mine launcher.

Pat

> > This shouldn't upset any other country!!!
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Optimist! What makes you think White Trash Out?

Extend US military might into space and thus make the solar system
eternally safe for US capitalism, from all hostile take overs.

He consulted with Scotty, the engineer of the Enterprise, about the CEV.
From Earth to ISS to moon and back again with engines so powerful that it
had extra delta-v's to waste on out of the way detours. I'll bet it'd be
so fantastic that it would just romp on over to a near Earth asteroid just
to say hi, shake hands and rip off, without it's permission, a bunch of
it's rocks, all while it zipped on by.

Next thing we'd see is those asteriods coming by just to get
their rocks off.

> > > This shouldn't upset any other country!!!
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With a president like Bush, what's makes you think US would win this time?

Have a great day, and remember, the only way we are going to get real
hardware, is with the help of Military Funding. (Unless you know how to
get the money fairy to drop buy and contrib.),

Carl

I ain't no lily-white surf-splashing overtanned-nigger trash.
What ain't you?

It's appropriate when kept within a race, one white trash to
another. And the majority race doesn't get the same
politically correct protection as the minorities.

Quit bashing? There's an election in two weeks.
An important election. To quit 'bashing', to not go
negative at this late stage of an election is simply
un-American. Are you asking me to be ....nice now....
just before an election?

It's like asking me to give up my citizenship and move
to Cuba...no...Venezuela, live on a commune and
start wearing Che t-shirts.

Have you no respect at all for the American way???

And some more than others. It so happens this
President is a ____ ______ of a ____.

Like the republicans showed respect for Clinton by turning
a blow job into an impeachable offense. And paralyzed
Congress and the White House for a year.
While bin Laden plotted.

Remember Monica's war? When Clinton went after bin Laden
in the midst of the great cum-stained party dress scandal. And
the repubs accused him of trying to divert attention away from
the truly important issues. You know, like all the un-crimes
the two hundred million dollar investigation unzipped.

A 'necessary evil'? That's called looking the other way at immorality
for money. Are you a member of Congress?

What if Nasa's goal were different. Instead of spending /forty/ some years
to build a nice little shelter on Mars for a half dozen people.
If Nasa were to say to America, we're going to end our dependence
on fossil fuel, making America the /next energy supplier/ to the world
while solving the global warming problem in the process.

How much public support and funds would Nasa get then?

Let's see.....Save the World...vs....Micro-colony for six.

I mean wake up to reality. There's nothing on the moon or
mars that the earth doesn't have in abundance.

America, the Next Saudi Arabia....vs....Dollars for Lockheed.

It's a slam dunk, the only reason they are getting
their way is we are letting them, we are staying
quiet at a historic mistake. A mistake that will make
America weaker, its enemies stronger and create
a Dark Future for our planet.

Jonathan

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> Carl
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Pampered brat of a ex-president

Those whinnies must have been jealous of a real America man.

> What if Nasa's goal were different. Instead of spending /forty/ some years

That's like saying "I'm a red blooded American" in the days of
MacCarthism.

Desolation. Import completely desolate seas, even continents now before
the CEO will be making you pay for their total planet desolation at a much
great cost.

"There will be a solution or there will be a revolution."

And where were the Demorats when Gore got gored?
Apologizing to King George for being a nuisance.

I can see the real estate ads already....

"Crater-front property for sale. A wonderful one room shelter
near the famous Planita Sorrow, adjacent to Mare Frigoris.
400 square foot with a window, priced to move at below cost"
Only $11.7 billion dollars.

However it be, enjoy your lunar commute from Luna city.
BTW, what are resident citizens of Luna City caller? .
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#
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Lunatics.

Hm, ain't that the same thing they call modern day Earthlings?

...Although it's a case of mayonaise calling the spooge white where
jonathan is concerned, "white trash" isn't self-selected by those who
are not part of that group, but an actual product of selective
inbreeding and preference towards a lower-class lifestyle. Ergo, they
choose to be part of that sub-species, and are not
exiled/assigned/relegated to it.

OM
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Actually, I've wondered if this was a reaction to China using lasers
to blind our surveillance satellites as they overfly China. That's
been in the press lately.

Also, there are GPS jammers out there. I think we're cranking up the
power on future GPS satellites.

I think this was more about defending the surveillance,
communications, and GPS assets we have in space now from being
destroyed or jammed. I see it as a response to China's actions.

-- David

Who cares?

A space race now will be good for getting mankind out of its craddle,
whoever wins it.

Hardly. The last one didn't actually make all that much progress in that
direction, and we're still trying to recover from its unpleasant side
effects (such as the deep assumption that doing anything in space costs
billions and hence is possible only for governments).

And cheering the idea of a new Cold War just for the sake of a space race
(assuming that the latter is an inevitable consequence of the former,
which is questionable at best) is appallingly naive. Guys, on several
occasions the last Cold War came horrifyingly close to wrecking our
civilization and killing just about all of us. There's no reason to
believe that we'd dodge the bullet a second time.
--
spsystems.net is temporarily off the air; | Henry Spencer
mail to henry at zoo.utoronto.ca instead. | he...@spsystems.net

In researching this term, eh hum, By the Fussell categorization of social
class,
most of these people would rank in the low and middle "prole" class.

"White trash" are perceived as having crude manners, abnormally low
moral standards, and lack of cultured behavior and/or education.
Swearing, smoking, promiscuity, drunkenness, overly loud and animated
behavior in public, and gambling (especially the copious purchase of
scratch-style lottery tickets) are examples of "white trash" vices.

The label might be applied to a household that, for example, lives
in a decrepit apartment or trailer, has a large family, lacks
indoor plumbing, and has a yard strewn with debris or perhaps
a non-functioning vehicle."

But the term has become more endearing in recent years, thanks
to the arts, such as Jeff Foxworthy and his related redneck jokes.
And who can forget Rosanne with her pronouncement of becoming
America's worst nightmare ..."white trash with money".
And of course, Jerry Springer.

Other related slurs

Trailer Fabulous
Bubba
Cracker
Hick
Hillbilly
Honkey
Hoosier (especially in the St. Louis area)
Joe Dirt
Pea-pickers
Peckerwood
Poor White
Redneck
Trailer trash
White Blacks of America
Wigger
Yokel
[edit]
See also
Chav (England)
Coatto (Italy)
Pikey (UK)
Dres (Poland)
Ned (Scotland)
Scanger (Ireland)
Bogan (Australia and NZ)
Hesher
Feral (subculture)
Mullet
Social stratification
Yobbo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_trash

s

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He was not impeached for a blow job, and it's either historically
ignorant or disingenuous in the extreme to suggest that he was.

But then, I guess we have to consider the source.

The Cold War also cost, what, something like $20 trillion after
adjusting for inflation?

Paul

I've mentioned this before, but isn't "cost" a very slippery term in
war?
For instance, WWII cost the UK an astronomical sum, but what did it
cost the USA?

Bill Clinton left, didn't he?

About damned time.

So why was he impeached? Let's hear you explain this without
using the words, oral sex and Monica Lewinski. You can't.
Come on, I'm waiting....

s

Because he obstructed justice, perjured himself, suborned perjury from
others (by both threats and offers of benefits), in the interest of
preventing a vulnerable young woman from getting a fair trial under a
law that he signed with his own hand. He absolutely forsake his oath
of office.

There were many other reasons for impeachment, many related to space
policy and China, but these were sufficient.

Probably also quite a large amount, but it was financed internally (and
by the period of rapid inflation following the war.)

Paul

....by refusing to answer the question, during the Paula Jones
civil lawsuit, whether he had 'sexual relations' with Monica
Lewinski. He refused because he disagreed with the definition
the Jones lawyers wanted to use for sexual relations.
Clinton held it meant intercourse, the Jones lawyers
had a paragraph long definition that included oral sex
and just about anything more than a handshake.

So far you've failed to explain impeachment without oral sex
or Monica Lewinski as the cause of action.

> perjured himself,

And what was he accused of lying about??? Do you have
any intellectual honesty when it comes to debating?
Any at all? Your're pointing at a basketball, and claiming
it's a football....sheez.

The only perjury that was being coerced was by Ken Starr in
locking away Susan McDougal....in solitary confinement....in
leg-irons and straight-jackets...using the VERY SAME treatment
given to death penalty convicts, for eighteen months for civil
contempt (that never happens), to force her to lie against Clinton.

Not according to the most important judge and jury.
The American people, during the impeachment
Clintons approval rating soared to an all time
high, almost twice as high as Bush has right now.

At least the voters know what's important, and what's
not. I always destroy you in these debates, why
do you even try~

s

>> >> He was not impeached for a blow job, and it's either historically

As I said, he perjured himself, and he suborned perjury from others,
by both bribes and threats, in order to keep a young woman from
getting a fair trial under a law that he signed with his own pen, but
apparently didn't think should apply to him.

No, you failed to understand what I wrote.

That has been explained many times.

Of course I do.

Nonsense.

That doesn't change the facts of what he did.

<laughing>

What exactly did Clinton do WRT space policy and China? Are you really
this stupid to take the RNC propaganda angle on that issue? Apparently
so.

Eric

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:Rand Simberg wrote:
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:> There were many other reasons for impeachment, many related to space

I don't know what he's thinking of with regard to space policy but I
would have thought selling the Presidency to China was an obviously
bad thing.

--
"The odds get even - You blame the game.
The odds get even - The stakes are the same.
You bet your life."
-- "You Bet Your Life", Rush

Yeah, I guess Bush being sold to the PNAC is better in that regard...