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1 | Brand | Model | Operating Force | SuperDoughBoi Avg Force | Releasing Force | Click Weight | Lifespan Rating | Color | Plating | Notes |
2 | Kailh | GM 8.0 | 65±10gf | ~65g | 25gf (Min) | Medium / Heavy | 80M | Clear & Black shell, Black dot | Gold | Copper alloy reed material to prevent oxidization. Lightest of the GM series. Good tactility, excellent durability rating. |
3 | Kailh | GM 4.0 | 70±10gf | ~70g | 25gf (Min) | Heavy | 60M | Red | Silver | Tactile up and down, crispy, heavy switches |
4 | Kailh | GM 2.0 | 70±10gf | ~67g | 20gf (Min) | Medium / Heavy | 20M | Teal | Gold | Snappy, lighter than 4.0, less actuaion distance than 20m Omrons. Quieter than most. |
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6 | Omron | D2F-01F | 55±10gf | ~54g | 5gf (Min) | Light | 1M | Black Shell Gray Dot | Gold | Great light switch, gold contacts, but sometimes too tall to replace a standard switch. (Here's how to mod the plungers to fit most mice) |
7 | Omron | D2FC-F-7N | 60±15gf | ~62g | ? | Light | 20M | Black Shell White Dot | No | Basically default switches in gaming mice |
8 | Omron | D2FC-F-7N(OF) | 60±15gf | ~66g | ? | Light | 20M | Black Shell White Dot | No | Basically default switches in gaming mice |
9 | Omron | D2FC-F-7N(G1) | 60±15gf | ? | Light | 20M | Black Shell White Dot | Silver | Custom 20M variant for Logitech with silver plating | |
10 | Omron | D2F-F-3-7 | 75.5gf | ~54g | ? | Medium | 20M | Black Shell Gray Dot | No | Very tactile and crispy for Omron, feel great, but no gold plating |
11 | Omron | D2FC-F-K | 60±15gf | ~58g | 25gf (Min) | Light | 50M | Black Shell Blue Dot | No | Known for double clicking in Logitech and Razer mice |
12 | Omron | D2FC-F-K 60MN | Probably 60±15gf | 25gf (?) | ? | 60M | Black Shell Orange Dot | Unknown | New switch in the Ducky Feather and MSI Clutch GM41. If you have info send to ents.fps@gmail.com, or if you want to send me one of these mice please reach out. | |
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14 | Zippy | DF3-P1 | 75.5gf | ~67g | 25gf | Medium - Heavy | 20M | Black Shell White Dot | Gold | Great drop in switch replacement due to gold contacts and same size as Omron 20m |
15 | Zippy | DF3-P1L2 | 70±20gf | 21gf | Very Heavy | 60M | Black Shell Blue Dot | Unknown | Heavier than P1L1, no idea where to get them | |
16 | Zippy | DF3-P1L1 | 60±20gf | ~70g | 21gf | Heavy | 60M | Black Shell Blue Dot | Unknown | These are the ones LGG stocks, much heavier than normal DF3 |
17 | Zippy | DF3-P1L0 | 50±20gf | 21gf | Medium | 60M | Black Shell Blue Dot | Unknown | Lighter than P1L1, no idea where to get them | |
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19 | Huano | Transparent Shell White Dot | ~64g | ? | 100M | Transparent Shell White Dot | ||||
20 | Huano | Blue Shell Pink Dot (Transparent) | 70g | ~60g | ? | Medium | 80M | Blue Shell Pink Dot (Transparent) | Gold | Seemingly identical to the OGs but tend to be ligher in the batch I received |
21 | Huano | Blue Shell Green Dot (Transparent) | ~55g | ? | 70M | Blue Shell Green Dot (Transparent) | ||||
22 | Huano | Blue Shell Blue Dot (Transparent) | ~62g | ? | 50M | Blue Shell Blue Dot (Transparent) | ||||
23 | Huano | Blue Shell Yellow Dot (Transparent) | ~61g | ? | 30M | Blue Shell Yellow Dot (Transparent) | ||||
24 | Huano | Blue Shell Red Dot (Transparent) | ~54g | ? | 60M | Blue Shell Red Dot (Transparent) | ||||
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26 | Huano | Black Shell Pink (Powder) Dot | 79.5gf | ? | Heavy | 10M | Black Shell Pink (Powder) Dot | No | Full copy Huano Black Shell Blue Dot, but a little softer and more springy | |
27 | Huano | Black Shell Blue Dot | 79.5gf | ? | Heavy | 10M | Black Shell Blue Dot | No | If you have info let me know. ents.fps@gmail.com | |
28 | Huano | Blue Shell White Dot | 70g | ? | Heavy | 20M | Blue Shell White Dot | No | Good heavy replacement switch, but a tiny bit of pre-travel | |
29 | Huano | Blue Shell Blue Dot | 70g | ~70g | ? | Medium - Heavy | 50M | Blue Shell Blue Dot | Gold | Good heavy replacement switch, but a tiny bit of pre-travel |
30 | Huano | Blue Shell Pink Dot | 70g | ~67g | ? | Medium | 80M | Blue Shell Blue Dot | Gold | Good medium force replacement switch, but has a tiny bit of pre-travel |
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32 | Huano | Black Shell Yellow Dot | 79.5gf | ? | Heavy | 8M | Black Shell Yellow Dot | No | Lots of pre-treavel, almost no post travel. Needs getting used to for spam clicking. Feels like more effort to click compared to Huano Blue Shell White Dot due to pretravel. (info sumitted via email) | |
33 | Huano | Black Shell Green Dot | 86.7gf | ? | Heavy | 5M | Black Shell Green Dot | No | If you have info let me know. ents.fps@gmail.com | |
34 | Huano | Black Shell White Dot | 79.5fg | ? | Heavy | 5M | Black Shell White Dot | No | If you have info let me know. ents.fps@gmail.com | |
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36 | TTC | Rose Gold Dustproof | 60±15gf | ? | Medium - Heavy | 30M | Pink/Clear Shell Pink Dot | Gold | Gold plated contacts. Only comes with the Skoll Mini | |
37 | TTC | Gold Dustproof 30M | 60±15gf | ? | Medium - Heavy | 30M | Gold/Clear Shell Gold Dot | Gold | Gold plated contacts. Can be mistaken as Omrons. | |
38 | TTC | Gold Dustproof 60M | 60±15gf | ~66g | ? | Medium - Heavy | 60M | Gold/Clear Shell Gold Dot | Gold | Gold plated contacts. Can be mistaken as Omrons. Lighter than 30M/80M. |
39 | TTC | Gold Dustproof 80M | 60±15gf | ~65g | ? | Medium - Heavy | 80M | Gold/Clear Shell Gold Dot | Gold | Gold plated contacts. Can be mistaken as Omrons. Essentially the same feel as 30M version. |
40 | TTC | Gold Non-Dustproof | 60±15gf | 15gf | Heavy | 30M | Gold Shell Gold Dot | Gold | Incredibly heavy and tactile switches | |
41 | TTC | Silver | 60±15gf | 15gf | Medium | 20M | Silver Shell Silver Dot | Silver | Medium force, silver plated switches | |
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43 | Razer | Optical (V1) | ? | ? | Light | 70M | Black Shell Purple Dot | N/A | Pretty mushy, felt like a first gen optical switch. | |
44 | Razer | Optical (V2) | ? | ? | Light | 70M | Black Shell Purple Dot | N/A | Much better than V1, still does not feel as snappy as a mech switch. Worth it tho if you don't want to worry about double clicking. | |
45 | Razer | Mechanical (V1) | 60±15gf | 25gf (Min) | Light | 50M | Black Shell Green Dot | No | Standard Omron 50M double click machines with a green dot | |
46 | Razer | Mechanical (V2) | ? | ? | Medium | 60M | Black Shell Green Dot | Yes | Based on Kailh GM 4. Made by Kailh with Razers Specs and Modifications | |
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48 | Honeywell | UX10C | 60g±? | ? | Very light | 10m | Beige Shell Dark Red Dot Black Base | Gold | Wider than most normal switches so not a perfect replacement for all mice | |
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50 | ZF/Cherry | DGBE-FL60 | 65±15gf | ~77g | 15gf | Medium - Heavy | 60M | Blue / White Shell Gold Dot | Gold | All the ZF switches have same specs but differing lifetimes. |
51 | ZF/Cherry | DGAE-FL30 | 65±15gf | ~72g | 15gf | Medium - Heavy | 30M | Blue / White Shell Red Dot | No | All the ZF switches have same specs but differing lifetimes. |
52 | ZF/Cherry | DGAE-FL10 | 65±15gf | ~61g | 15gf | Medium - Heavy | 10M | Blue / White Shell White Dot | No | All the ZF switches have same specs but differing lifetimes. |
53 | ZF/Cherry | DGAE-FL05 | 65±15gf | 15gf | Medium - Heavy | 5M | Blue / White Shell Black Dot | No | All the ZF switches have same specs but differing lifetimes. | |
54 | ⬆⬆⬆ There is a large variance from switch to switch (of the same model switch) due to variances/tolerances when manufacturing. Take these numbers as nothing more than appoximations! | |||||||||
55 | Corrections? Comments? Questions? email me! ents.fps@gmail.com | Check out my YouTube channel with reviews, mods, and switch swap tutorials: ents.win/yt | ||||||||
56 | A long lifespan rating is directly correlated with a heavier switch! Here's a video explaining why. We will not see light, long lifetime rated switches until mechanical switches are swapped for something else, such as optical switches. | |||||||||
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58 | Want to know more about a certain switch that's not covered here? Donate a few bucks and I will order them and add info here. Paypal: ents.fps@gmail.com | |||||||||
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60 | Want something like this for mousepads? Check Hoya's Mousepad Mastersheet | |||||||||
61 | Want something like this for JST/Molex Pinout? Check JST/MOLEX Pin Arrangement Spreadsheet by Agile | |||||||||
62 | ↓↓↓ There is more info in this sheet in the other pages ↓↓↓ |
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1 | SuperDoughBoi did a better version of this and I have replaced all my data with theirs. See their spreadsheet here. | ||||||||
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4 | New page! I pressed switches against a tension gauge and recorded the data. This info is very different than the spec sheets. I trust my data more than the spec sheets, and therefore replaced the default information on this spreadsheet with my own data. | ||||||||
5 | The variance between batches of the same switches can drastically change the order below. For this to be 100% accurate I'd have to do this with a large sample of each switch, which I have no plans to do currently. | ||||||||
6 | Want to see the process? Video here ⟶ | ||||||||
7 | Remember this is just for the switch, once the switch is in a mouse, the shell/click design of the mouse can dramatically change the feeling of the switch! Also, small sample size, batch variance, etc. Your experience may vary, but this is the best we've got. | ||||||||
8 | listed heaviest (top) to lightest (bottom) | ||||||||
9 | brand | model | actuation force (g) | also known as | |||||
10 | kailh | gm 2 | 75.33 | kailh teals | |||||
11 | kallh | gm 4 | 70.5 | kailh reds | |||||
12 | zippy | df3-p1l1 | 69.5 | steelseries zippys | |||||
13 | ttc | gold non dustproof | 68.75 | ||||||
14 | omron | d2fc-f-7n | 68.5 | omron 20m | |||||
15 | ttc | silver non dusproof | 68.5 | ||||||
16 | razer | optical v1 | 67 | ||||||
17 | huano | blue shell blue dot | 67 | ||||||
18 | huano | blue shell white dot | 66.66 | ||||||
19 | huano | blue shell pink dot | 66 | ||||||
20 | ttc | gold dusproof 80m | 65.625 | ||||||
21 | zippy | df3-p1 | 60.833 | ||||||
22 | omron | d2fc-f-k(50m) | 60 | minecraft switch | |||||
23 | omron | d2f-01f | 59.33 | japanese omrons | |||||
24 | kailh | gm8 | 59.625 | ||||||
25 | omron | d2fc-f-7n(g1) (from gpx) | 57 | omron 20m | |||||
26 | razer | optical v2 | 55.625 | ||||||
27 | ttc | gold dusproof 30m | 53 | ttc golds | |||||
28 | omron | d2f-f-3-7 | 51 | japanese omrons | |||||
29 | omron | d2fc-f-7n 20m (from sl-12) | 41.833 | finalmeme switch | |||||
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2 | Ents' Recommendations | |||
3 | Assuming you are replacing switches to avoid double clicks and not just for a different feeling, here are my recommendations. | |||
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5 | Light: Huano Blue Shell Green Dot | |||
6 | Medium: Huano Blue Shell Pink Dot | |||
7 | Heavy: Kailh GM4, Kailh GM2, Huano Blue Shell Blue Dot | |||
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2 | Where to buy switches | |||
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4 | LethalGamingGear (use code ENTS to save 10% on most items) | |||
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6 | MouseClub (code ENTS saves you 10% at MouseClub!) | |||
7 | or if you have a month to wait, buy from Aliexpress. | |||
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10 | Misc switch info | |||
11 | GPW SMD Side buttons | https://mouseclub.co/collections/microswitches/products/kailh-smt-mini-microswitch-2-pack | ||
12 | GPW Scroll click | https://mouseclub.co/collections/microswitches/products/kailh-mini-5-5h-microswitch | ||
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1 | Brand | Model | Feel | Sizes in mm | Rating | Notes |
2 | TTC | Gold/Yellow | Tactile | 9, 10, 11 | 48M Scrolls | Accurate with tactile scrolls (less tactility than ALPS) suitable for gaming and everyday uses |
3 | Kailh | Red Core Black Cover | Light/Smooth | 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 | 7M Scrolls | Low tactility, good for gaming and everyday use. Feels like Stock Logitech GPWXSL Encoders. |
4 | Kailh | Red Core Gray Cover | Tactile | 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 | 19M Scrolls | Heavy tactility, loud, for fans of heavy and very distinct scroll steps |
5 | TTC | Green (actually turquoise) | Medium | 5, 5.5, 7, 9, 10, 11, 13 | 5M Scrolls | Medium tactility, slightly more than TTC Red with accurate scrolling. Suitable for gaming and everyday uses |
6 | TTC | Red | Soft/Smooth | 8, 9, 11 | 5M Scrolls | Accurate scrolling, least tactile feedback. Suitable for long gaming sessions and everyday tasks. Often compared to TTC Green. |
7 | Alps | Most Tactile | 7, 9, 11 | 3M Scrolls | Made in Japan, most tactile, harder to scroll with pronounced steps. Suitable for gaming, but may be fatiguing for everyday use. | |
8 | Huano | Blue | Medium | 5, 5.5, 7, 9, 10, 11, 12.6, 13, 14 | 3M Scrolls | Can be considered a budget pick, often used in internet cafes with average accuracy. |
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10 | from mouseclub.co (they sell encoders!) For a heavier and well defined scroll, you should go for the Japanese ALPS or the TTC Office. For the lightest and smoothest scroll, you should go for a Kailh encoder. For something in between, not too heavy and not too light, we would recommend the TTC Gold. | |||||
11 | Thank you to u/uoero for the info and translation | |||||
12 | Common mice and their encoder heights | |||||
13 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | |
14 | MZ1 | GPW | UL2 | G203 | Air58/ULP | |
15 | GPWXSL | KPU | ||||
16 | G703 | |||||
17 | SL-12 | |||||
18 | ULX | |||||
19 | 12 | 13 | ||||
20 | Skoll L | |||||
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A | B | C | |
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2 | Changelog | ||
3 | Date | Note | |
4 | 2020-08-07 | Added changelog, added ETF to TTC Gold NDP and TTC Silver | |
5 | 2020-08-17 | Changed "Gold Plating" to "Plating" to be more inclusive of other/new types of plating | |
6 | 2020-08-18 | Updated plating for Kailh switches from info from Fr3akTheGeek | |
7 | 2020-08-23 | Added Kailh GM 8 ETF | |
8 | 2020-11-11 | Added info on new Razer Switches | |
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11 | Sources | ||
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13 | Inital sources for this sheet: | ||
14 | Tailslol's Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Yffi7XmBTw | ||
15 | this geekhack thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=81743.0 | ||
16 | & a lot of badly translated Aliexpress pages | ||
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18 | Ongoing sources for this sheet: | ||
19 | My own testing via this method: | ||
20 | https://imgur.com/a/x45kKFM | ||
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22 | Thanks to Tailslol and QHC from the MouseReview discord for their help with initial setup of the sheet! | ||
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26 | This sheet is very work in progress! Please feel free to add to or correct the sheet by emailing me info to ents.fps@gmail.com and if you have specific switches you want me to test or include let me know! | ||
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28 | Info from Tailslol | ||
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30 | Tailslol's video that inspired this sheet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Yffi7XmBTw | ||
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32 | Switch similar to Omrons (in order of preference): Omron JP, Zippy, Omron 20M, TTC Gold, Omron 50m | ||
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34 | Switch heavy for fps (In order of force): ZF, Huano Blu, GM Reds | ||
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36 | Light Switch for moba and productivity (In order of force): Honeywell, Omron 20M, Omron JP, Omron 50m, Zippy, TTC Gold | ||
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38 | Clicky tactile switch: Omron 20M,Omron JP, TTC Gold, Zippy, ZF, GM Reds | ||
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40 | Mushy switch: Omron 50m, Huano Blue, Razer LK | ||
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42 | Switch order by force (low to high): Honeywell,Omron 20M,Omron JP,Omron 50m,Zippy,TTC Gold, ZF, Huano Blue, GM Reds |