Setting up a network.

So how do I set up the other machine w98se?
I tired to set up up but I don't have much idea.
At some point it asks for a winNT domain name or
something like that, I have no idea what to put there.

TIA any help appreciated.

Forwarded to alt.computer.

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Per MVP Steve Winograd:

To run XP's network wizard on Win98:

Transfer this file, which contains the Wizard, from WIN XP to Windows98
and run it on 98. You can E-mail it, burn it to a CD, etc:

C:\Windows\System32\Netsetup.exe

To set up Windows 98 manually, without using the Wizard, go to Control
Panel>Network (on Win98 box) and:

1. Add these network components if they aren't already present:

TCP/IP protocol
Client for Microsoft Networks
File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks

2. Remove these network components if they're present:

IPX/SPX protocol
NetBEUI protocol
Client for NetWare networks

3. Set the workgroup name to the same name as the Windows XP computer
uses (default for XP is MSHOME).

4. Right-click and share any desired disks, folders, and printers.

Malke
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"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

Thanks Malke, maybe I am getting somewhere at last!! However I just
tend to spend hours and hours trying to solve one insoluable problem
only to find I have an even bigger one to tackle!!
You should see the problems I had just trying to install my network
card!! (in alt.computer and win98.gen_discussion.

You make it sound so easy to do it manually but I have been pulling
my hair out trying so I will let Netsetup.exe 'have a bash' at it.

I think the quickest way for me to transfer it wil be by 'swap slave
hard drive net!!'

I expect I will be reporting back failure shortly!!

Well as expected it didn't work!!
Neither computer seems to be able to see each other.
When I try to view workgroup computers from the XP machine
I get "Mshome is not available. You might not have permission...
conctact system administrator (that's me!!).....etc....
The lsit of servers for this workgroup is curently not
available."
Note Mshome is not MSHOME, does case matter?

This is pretty much as it was before wehn I tried it manually..

An error I had previously on the onter w98se computer
was "failed to load internet connection wizard helper component".

This seems to be a never ending nightmare that I will never sort out.
All the diagonostics are rubbish or missing and it seem impossible
to find out what is going on.

OMG!!!! I don't believe it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I maanaged to get it working!!
I am not too sure how but the first thing I did way turn off my
Norton firewall thingy, however it is back on now so I
don't think it was that.
I did something else too it was in control panel->network
and internet connections->network connections-> my network places

There was a reference to UPnP devices which I clicked and it did
something which showed the network, ie the other computer.
I has not changed to "Hide icons for networked UPnP
devices" so I guess if I clicked it again it would disable the
network and put me back to where I was with no network.
But anyway it is all working really well now.
Actually I just rechecked what I had done and I could not
access the remote computer that time so I turned off norton
again and I can now access the remote machine again so it
does seem like it was Norton which was the problem not
the UPnP thing (whatever that is).
So now I think I need to figure out how to configure Norton
properly so that I can access the remote machine but still
be proteected. (Not sure if it is norton or systec).
Anyway I can just turn if off when I want to access the other
machine for the time being.
I am really impressed with it though, no more swoping drives!!!
I never though I would get it to work but finally it does.
Many thanks for your help, with the netsetup file!!!
I don't know if I would still have got it going without that help
but quite frankly I was on the verge of giving up and it gave me
a bit more confidence that it might be possible to get it working.
It was just wild thought to turn off the firewall, I thinkI had
probably tried it before unsucessfully anyway. I am not totally
sure what changes I needed to make. I think I need to backtrack
and sort out all the dozens of solutions I have tried and the sort out
the security side (not that I am too bothered about being hacked,
hackers probably have more of an interest in my computer working
than Microsoft or Norton/Symtec!!
I think I will try to conneect the other way from the other computer
and also See if I can connect to the net from it via this machine.
MAny thanks!!

Hmm... now the firewall is back on and I can still access the remote
comp. Confusing!!!!

Hmmm,I can access a few shared folders on this machine from the other
machine but I can't connect to the internet form it through this machine
(yet)

I get a message I mentioned earlier

But I will have a look at that later and it's not that important
for any practical purpose at the moment anyway.
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I suggest that you purchase a floppy disk drive and install it in the
machine and create the disk on the XP machine you will use to install
the networking software on the Win 9'x machines so that they can network
with the XP machine.

You choose Workgroup name like *Smith* all computers must be in the same
Workgroup in order to network, including the XP machine.

Of course you would need to pull the floppy disk drive out of the XP
machine and install it in the Win 9'x machines to install XP networking
software.

http://www.windowsnetworking.com/j_helmig/guidshrh.htm
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=813936#appliesto

Duane :)

Dont forget those shares are cached ,,,, which is why you can still access
the remote pc

If ya get stuck maybe http://www.homenethelp.com/ might help

J

So rather than make some manual configuration changes to win9x which
take less than a minute (see Winograd faq posted by Malke), buy a
floppy drive, open up the pc, install the floppy drive (after needing
to learn how, maybe), modify the cmos so the floppy disk is recognised
and then make and use a xp network disk.

Don't think so, somehow.

Jim.

You don't actually need a floppy, it is stored in the system folder so
u could burn a cd, or tranfer it on a spare hard drive which is what
I did cos I knew that would work.

I had tried the manual configuration but I could get it to
work, so I suspected I had done something wrong or
some obscure fault. I need the settup to give me confidence
I had done it corectly.
The settup didn't work either due to some other probs
I detailed in micro......etc...windowsxp.general.
Anyway its sort now :O)

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Networking - General

http://www.howstuffworks.com/home-network.htm
http://www.homenethelp.com/home-network.asp
http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/dccmain.htm
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/
http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/category04

Networking - NT/XP Specific

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/homenetworking/
http://compnetworking.about.com/cs/winxpnetworking/
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=813936
http://www.onecomputerguy.com/networking/xp_network.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/getstarted/default.mspx

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http://www.bootdisk.com/

Thanks I found a solution to it as it save the file in the
system folder and you can manually transfer it via whatever
removable media you have. Basically a case of the wizard not being
very helpful!!