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mrtee

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Jul 18, 2003, 10:12:09 AM7/18/03
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I have shortcuts to my CD-ROM and CD-RW/DVD on my desktop. Updates 821557 and 823980 were installed through autoupdate. I had also installed some other programs and updates to them. The shortcuts stopped working.

I have spent the last 8 hours doing System Restores to various points and nothing helped.

This is what I have done after that:
1. Restored an image from 2 days ago.
2. Allowed autoupdate to install the updates and the shortcuts stopped working (system can not find) again.
3. Uninstalled 823980, still not working.
4. Uninstalled 821557, now the shortcuts work.
5. Reinstalled 823980, the shortcuts continue to work.

I could not find a link on the MS03-027 (821557) web page to send feedback to MS about the problem with the "fix".

My hope is that an MVP sees this and provide some feedback to MS.
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Mary Sauer

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Jul 18, 2003, 10:20:49 AM7/18/03
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All your shortcuts are gone or just the CD shortcuts? Can you not create new ones?
Double-click my computer, right click your cd drive, click create shortcut, a
dialogue will come up.
Get Tweak UI and try repairing.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/downloads/powertoys.asp

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mrtee

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Jul 18, 2003, 10:27:44 AM7/18/03
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Mary, the shortcuts are not gone, they are there but they do not work. I created new shortcuts with the same results, "the system can not find".

The system is XP pro.

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| All your shortcuts are gone or just the CD shortcuts? Can you not create new ones?
| Double-click my computer, right click your cd drive, click create shortcut, a
| dialogue will come up.
| Get Tweak UI and try repairing.
| http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/downloads/powertoys.asp
|
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| http://mvps.org/msauer/

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mrtee

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Jul 18, 2003, 11:02:37 AM7/18/03
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For grins & gigles I reinstalled 821557.  Ended up with the same problem.

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TJS

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Jul 18, 2003, 11:30:15 AM7/18/03
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for what it's worth...

I also use xp-pro , installed 821557 and had all sorts of problems after
that update.

a day later, using several recoveries, I was able to finally get my system
working again. I never did figure out what got corrupted.

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Rob Satterwhite [MSFT]

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Jul 18, 2003, 7:00:22 PM7/18/03
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We are investigating this issue with 821557. A bug is being filed against
this problem.We are waiting on a date for resolution. Thank you for reproing
it and providing the additional detail.

Rob (Microsoft)

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mrtee

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Jul 18, 2003, 10:38:19 PM7/18/03
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Thank you. I now know that I am not alone with the problem.

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| We are investigating this issue with 821557. A bug is being filed against
| this problem.We are waiting on a date for resolution. Thank you for reproing
| it and providing the additional detail.
|
| Rob (Microsoft)
|

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Parkers-Georgia & Bob

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Jul 19, 2003, 10:16:42 AM7/19/03
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Also have this issue for the ZIP drive shortcut on my desktop (drive D) as
well as A(floppy), E(CD- ROM), and F (DVD). Please note to Microsoft that
shortcuts to ALL drives except "C" do not work, saying the path has been
changed or deleted or something to that effect. I hope the next Update will
correct this!

Georgia


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Gail

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Jul 19, 2003, 10:36:02 AM7/19/03
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Hi MrTee

just my .02, DISABLE AUTOUPDATE!


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mrtee

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Jul 19, 2003, 5:34:20 PM7/19/03
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Gail, so I do not have "auto" update applied. It is set to inform me of new updates.

So how would disabling it solve the problem that the update created?

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| Hi MrTee
|
| just my .02, DISABLE AUTOUPDATE!

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Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz SBS Rocks [MVP]

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Jul 20, 2003, 3:07:44 PM7/20/03
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I saw this on a Win2k3 as well...while the autoupdate and downloaded a patch and it was
waiting for me to install and apply it, it wacked out my SCSI card that my tape drive hangs
off of. I installed the patch, rebooted the server and all was well [this is a test server].

It's like AU held onto certain hardware devices in "limbo"

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Helmut Stahl

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Jul 21, 2003, 2:37:48 AM7/21/03
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Please inform us, if the bug can be fixed.

My computer shows similar symptoms since installing
these to updates.


Larry(LJL269)

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Jul 25, 2003, 12:46:44 AM7/25/03
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By disable I think he meant DO NOT have it
auto-install. I go futher as in my post of 2 mos ago:

After 811xxx fiasco, I turned Auto-updtde OFF and now
check 1/month via Calender pgm when I can devote an
hour or so to just that. I check WUpdate NG 4
complaints as I am doing now.

I always create a Restore Pt & also create an image of
my entire C drive b4 doing WUpdates that r not
uninstallable .

Since beginning this routine, it took 2hrs to look at
16 updates & install 50% as follows:
Considered Installed
Critical 6 4
Recommended 9 3
Drivers 1 1

In the past, 2nd highest cause of my PC crashing was MS
so I feel this minimizes my exposure & maximizes my
ability to recover. Note that by far the highest cause
of my PC crashing was my own STUPIDITY ! :)

HTH-Larry

On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 16:34:20 -0500, "mrtee"
<hingelickeratnew.rr.com> wrote:

|Gail, so I do not have "auto" update applied. It is set to inform me of new updates.
|
|So how would disabling it solve the problem that the update created?


Any advice given is my attempt to show appreciation for all
the excellent help I've received here but I'm no MVP so it
may only apply NUGS (Normally, Usually, Generally, Sometimes :)

Jonathan Woodard [MSFT]

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Jul 25, 2003, 3:06:11 AM7/25/03
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A fix for this has been found and will be available soon. We'll post more
information when it's available.

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Maurice N

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Jul 25, 2003, 6:51:20 AM7/25/03
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mrtee wrote:
> Mary, the shortcuts are not gone, they are there but they do not
> work. I created new shortcuts with the same results, "the system can
> not find".
>
Hi Jeff,

A fix for the shortcut situation ( from 821557) will be out soon. This is per a note from MS. There's no specific date/time mentioned.
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Opinicus

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Jul 25, 2003, 10:45:28 AM7/25/03
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Maurice N <mau...@mvps.org> said:

> A fix for the shortcut situation ( from 821557) will be out soon.
> This is per a note from MS. There's no specific date/time mentioned.

I'm not absolutely certain but I believe that the first time I installed
that update when it first came I had a problem with Total (formerly Windows)
Commander not being able find my USB hard disk on F:. For another reason I
had to roll back to a previous restore point, which of course undid the
update. When I downloaded and installed the update the second time, the
problem was gone.

Has anyone else had a similar experience? Or is the heat just getting to me?

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mrtee

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Jul 25, 2003, 5:23:20 PM7/25/03
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Thanks Maurice, I caught it before I saw your message.

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Hi Jeff,

A fix for the shortcut situation ( from 821557) will be out soon. This is per a note from MS. There's no specific date/time mentioned.
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Chris Wood

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Aug 21, 2003, 12:37:48 PM8/21/03
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Is there really a fix for 821557? This notice has been around for nearly a
month now with no indication of a fix in the security bulletin.

Chris Wood
Alberta Department of Energy
CANADA

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Lemon Jelly

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Aug 21, 2003, 2:03:45 PM8/21/03
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Chris Wood - typed:

> Is there really a fix for 821557? This notice has been around for
> nearly a month now with no indication of a fix in the security
> bulletin.

There seems to be a corporate-wide inability to admit to mistakes or
"issues" with MS products unless the spotlight warms things up 1st IMO.
Instead of stating that a number of systems have problems with this
update in the advisory, they choose to remain silent.

Some people here & elsewhere voice their surprise that people don't set
XP to automatically install Critical Updates. 821557 is the 3rd CU this
year that breaks my system. This is the reason I have it turned off.

I do appreciate the need to get CUs out promptly therefore forgoing some
testing that less urgent updates probably go through but to not publish
known issues is plain negligence in my book. My attitude is to carefully
read the notes regarding even Critical Updates & make an informed
judgement of the need to install instantly or wait for reports on this
NG of possible issues. I wouldn't have been particularly vulnerable to
the blaster worm had I chosen not to have installed 823980 because of
other precautions taken. For this reason I choose to not reduce security
risks (which are often very low risk to me anyway) at the expense of a
fully functioning system).

I hope MS's new approach to universal updating allows some control! I
also hope the next version of Windows is less prone to problems though I
have serious doubts due to problems with WS2003 & how slow large
organisations are to implement oft voiced Mission Statements.
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Chris Wood

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Aug 21, 2003, 5:04:11 PM8/21/03
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I did find 824143 in KB. If this is the fix to a problem that 821557
produces why is it not included in the notes for 821557 with a link?
Currently if 821557 gives you a problem you would have to contact MS to get
hold of 824143.

Chris Wood

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Lemon Jelly

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Aug 21, 2003, 5:52:04 PM8/21/03
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Chris Wood - typed:

> I did find 824143 in KB. If this is the fix to a problem that 821557
> produces why is it not included in the notes for 821557 with a link?
> Currently if 821557 gives you a problem you would have to contact MS
> to get hold of 824143.

Thanks for the info - I've emailed MS UK requesting the fix. Looking
again at 821557, Additional Information about this Patch, Caveats -
none!!! Ho hum.
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