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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 06:03 AM
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Fired Federal Prosecutors & Election Fraud - Hookergate Looms "Scoop"/Collins(autorank)
Link: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0703/S00213.htm

FIRED FEDERAL PROSECUTORS AND ELECTION FRAUD


Monday, 12 March 2007, 8:42 pm
Article: Michael Collins

Sacked for Indicting Republicans
and Not Indicting Republicans?


MichaelCollins
“Scoop” Independent News
Washington, DC


Top U.S. law enforcement official Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez engineered a Pearl Harbor Day for eight Republican appointed federal prosecutors. From one end of the country to the other, previously well regarded prosecutors were summarily fired (allowed to resign) on December 7, 2006. Chief of the Office of U.S. Attorneys, Michael Battle spread the news. In a rare case of the messenger shooting himself, Battle abruptly decided that he too would resign after the firings turned into a major scandal this month.

Even hard core Bush supporters were appalled. High profile Republican partisan and former federal prosecutor Joseph diGenova made his opinion clear: “This is really a pathetic way of running government." Mark Corallo, a former close aid to Attorney General Ashcroft said: "These are people who worked hard in the pursuit of justice. To go out and trash their reputations -- it's galling." John Smietanka, deputy to George H. W. Bush’s Attorney General William Barr, offered this: “If they were going to ask for the resignations of people, they should have given reasons, just for pure tact and humanity." (Source of quotations: Law.Com, 12 Mar 2007)

Working at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue seems to be the essential requirement to stick one’s head in the sand and support this process.

Why were these eight selected? The notion that they were somehow ineffective is a non starter. All eight prosecutors had positive personnel reviews by the Department of Justice (DOJ) according to the Wall Street Journal whose reporters had access to the files. The conventional wisdom is that they were somehow disloyal to the Bush White House, either through acts of omission or commission. That’s obvious. But what were those acts?

Is there a common element to the firings? In the case of four of the eight, there might be.

*** # # # ***


David Iglesias., New Mexico. “Leaned on” by a Senator and his heir for failing to indict Democrats before 2006 elections.

Senator Pete Domenici, (R-NM), recommended David Iglesias as New Mexico’s federal prosecutor. Imagine the volatile senator’s outrange when he reportedly called and asked Iglesias for a favor. Domenici was concerned about the slow pace of expected indictments of Democrats in election related cases according to Iglesias. Should the indictments come just before the 2006 election, they would help Republicans in tight races. The alleged interference took its toll. Iglesias said “I felt sick afterward. I felt leaned on. I felt pressured to get these cases moving.”

A big part of the pressure was from Congresswomancontroversial elections.

There were no pre-election indictments by prosecutor Iglesias.

The likely motivation was for the firing was clarified by New Mexico Republican Party Chairman Allen Weh. In a just published account by McClatchy Newspapers, he described a 2005 phone call with Karl Rove
, Weh asked, “Is anything ever going to happen to that guy?” referring to Iglesias’ failure to bring the requested pre election charges against Democrats. Rove’s response was direct, “He’s gone.” And he was, just a few months after the phone call.[br />
*** # # # ***


John McKay, Washington State. Investigate “voter” fraud in 2004 Governor’s race or tell me why you didn’t!

John McKay of Washington State was apparently the object of a longer held grudge by the White House. He refused to investigate allegations of voter fraud in the 2004 election for Governor of Washington State. McKay told Senate investigators of receiving a call from the chief of staff for Republican Congressman “Doc” Hastings. The call concerned a prosecution to challenge the Democrats in their 200 vote victory in the 2004 race for governor.

The Seattle Times published a letter from trade association executive Tom McCabe to Rep “Doc” Hastings from July 2005. Talk about a demand letter. Hastings, a former chair of the House Ethics Committee, surely knew what this meant.

I urge you to call on President Bush to fire John McKay, U.S. Attorney for Western Washington.

…. If you decide not to do this, let me know.

Tom McCabe
Executive Vice President

(N.B. The cc. list on this letter includes one “John Fund.”)


After receiving the letter, Hastings staffer Ed Cassidy called prosecutor McKay making inquiries about the status of the 2004 allegations. McKay quickly cut him off expressing concerns about illegal influence (it’s a crime to try and influence a federal prosecutors decisions in this way).

The call ended and a few months later so did McKay’s federal service. His reward for service to his country was a threat that DOJ would release information damaging to his reputation. They did. It was widely dismissed.

*** # # # ***


Daniel Bogden, Nevada. Getting too close to corporate gifts for a Republican Governor

Nevada federal prosecutor Daniel Bogden may have been undone by an explosive FBI probe of just re-elected Governor Jim Gibbons. Gibbons’ dealings with friend and defense contractor Warren Trepp are a part of the investigation. It isn’t hard to figure out why.

Among the dozens of e-mails is one allegedly sent days before Trepp and his wife prepared to set sail on a Caribbean cruise with (Governor) Gibbons and his wife. In it, Trepp's wife allegedly wrote to her husband: "Please don't forget to bring the money you promised Jim and Dawn." Trepp's reply, according to the Journal report, was: "Don't you ever send this kind of message to me! Erase this message from your computer right now!” Washington Post


There are other examples of Trepp’s cash and carry relationship with his friend and traveling companion, the governor. The possible resignation of Gov. Gibbons due to a scandal was apparently too much for the White House to bear. Senate testimony indicated that there was really no reason to remove Gibbons other than to make room for a political appointee. Long service and an excellent record offered no protection for this loyal civil servant.

Another layer of protection for the governor was provided when intelligence czar, John D. Negrponte filed a statement saying any investigation of the Gov. Gibbons – Trepp connection would compromise vital national security interests.

Is this the security of knowing that you’ll be able to actually spend the walking around money your patron gave you during your Caribbean vacation together? Time will tell.

*** # # # ***


Carol Lam, California. Poking around the mother of all political scandals, Hookergate.

Carol Lam’s courteous demeanor masks a prosecutor tough as nails. It was Lam who brought charges against Republican Congressman Randall H. “Duke” Cunningham. Lam indicted and convicted the former Naval flying ace and Republican icon for bribe taking in 2005. She wasn’t done yet.

Exposed and disgraced, Cunningham resigned after the indictment and apparently began singing the right tunes for the prosecutor. Lam widened her investigation and connected Cunningham’s cash cow, defense contractor Brent Wilkes, with a broader potential scandal involving Wilkes and former CIA executive Dusty Foggo.

Hookergate has it all – politicians participating in prostitution, gambling, and influence peddling. It’s alleged that federal money was provided to a Virginia based limousine company to carry Congressmen between Capitol Hill and the Watergate complex for recreational sex with prostitutes and gambling with each other. It appears that both Foggo and Wilkes are closely connected to the merry making.

The implications of this scandal are staggering. Any member of Congress caught up in this scheme, particularly if photographed, will be forced from office immediately. It doesn’t take much imagination to figure out which political party will be totally decimated if this scandal explodes.

After Lam’s previously announced resignation was moved up, she remained undeterred. Just before leaving office, she filed an incredibly detailed indictment of Wilkes and Foggo that will be at the top of her replacement’s to do list. This more than justifies a Congressional investigation into the more explosive Hookergate affair.

*** # # # ***


Emerging Pattern?

It is apparent that the four dismissals are related to politics and not performance. A pattern begins to emerge. Political leverage is brought to bear on past, current or future elections through the use of federal prosecutors, clearly not a part of the job description. Two prosecutors were dismissed after failing to indict citizens in order to influence an election. The Nevada prosecutor was sacked in the midst of an investigation that had the potential to remove a sitting Republican governor. But Lam takes the cake.

It appears that she was dismissed early to discourage the very indictment she brought just before leaving, an indictment that has the potential to literally wipe the Republican Party off of the political map. If it ever breaks, Hookergate will be the mother of all political scandals with corruption, influence peddling, and prostitutes paid for with government funds.

It’s no coincidence that the eight were removed when they were. This process was a gift to the President by Republican Senator Arlen Specter. In a clever move before the bill was finalized, Specter included a few sentences in the Patriot Act broadening the options for the midterm dismissal of federal prosecutors. The White House noticed this loophole and used it when needed, without restraint.

Hovering at a paltry 30% approval rating with no hope in sight, the White House operation needs every bit of help it can get. Given the reaction of even their staunchest supporters, the troubles are just beginning.

*** END ***


Special thanks to Mario for his ongoing insights.

Permission to reprint with an attribution to the author and a link to this article at “Scoop” Independent News.

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 06:16 AM
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1. Good stuff, autorank! Nom! Also, besides those eight fired prosecutors,
it might behoove some intrepid journalist to see who has been booted since 01 and why. I wouldn't be surprised if there are other names to add to the mix.
And I would just LOVE to see that Hookergate blown wide open. No joke!
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 06:27 AM
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2. Right.
Nominated.

It is an amazing thing to see, when the rabid right wing begins to attack its own.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 06:28 AM
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3. You have a good point. I'm sure that there are stories about the other four...
and maybe more about the four I discuss. But who was "resigned" since '01...

:hi:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 06:41 AM
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7. I have no idea; I need an intrepid reporter to find out!
But it wouldn't surprise me! :hi:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 06:45 AM
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13. I'll start snooping or ...
work on that "intrepid thing";) I've got the "vision thing" so this one should be easier.

:hi:
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 06:36 AM
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5. Nothing like a good sex scandal to get America's attention!
as if there already aren't enough scandals...
The Walter Reed Scandal
The fired attorneys scandal
The sub-prime housing loan scandal
The election scandals

Thanks autorank!



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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 06:40 AM
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6. It's sad, but it's also true; people would sit up and pay attention
if sex was involved.

And don't forget that lil FBI scandal that's bubbling up (Patriot Act abuses), and Halliburton, Katrina, the list would be quite long!

Remind me why no one is mentioning impeachment?
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 06:41 AM
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8. I'll tell them to upgrade their scandal standards. This one willl be really ugly
The Corporate Media is actually doing it's job on this one. They're falling way short on interpretation but they're actually digging, in a serious way.

Nice to say hello at this hour;)
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 12:12 PM
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39. Yep. Sex sells itself.
Hotcakes.

I wonder if the Washington madam currently being prosecuted for money laundering has anyone related to this in her little black book?

Sometimes it seems DC is hornier than Hollywood. It all reminds me of a line from an old song by Dr Buzzard's Original Savannah Band, "God is such a busy guy, some must sell, some must buy..."
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 06:32 AM
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4. kickin' and rec-in'
another day in the life under the jurisdiction of Senor "Gonzolaws."

Ughhhhh
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 06:42 AM
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9. Gonzo is on Match.Com, "its rumored" or "some say"
You ready for the full Gonzo:evilgrin:
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 06:45 AM
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12. ewwwwwwwwwwwww !!!!!!
that's outrageously and unimaginably just plain GROSS
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 06:42 AM
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10. How long is this Administration's enemies list anyway?
Soon they'll be left with no one to appoint except sneaky six-year-olds. :eyes:

K&R! Here's to investigations and subpoenas!
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 06:45 AM
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11. It's always
a good sign when one sees republicans putting other republicans on that list. Ha!
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 11:10 AM
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32. the list is always growing with this crowd
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 09:27 PM
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66. Absolutely
Republicans eating their own. It's a wake-up call for any ethical Republican who thinks he can just coast along on the label instead of going all out and actually selling his soul.

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 06:47 AM
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14. It includes everyone but them...and sometimes...
Well, they know who to call when they're mad at themselves...Jeff!
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 06:48 AM
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15. K&R
More and more will come forward....
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 10:16 PM
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79. The skys will open and the truth will rain down on them....
...and it won't be a pretty day. All those skeptics will have to say, "You told us so" but we'll be gracious, right:evilgrin:
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 07:46 AM
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16. The real damage they were trying to stop with firing Lam was to Duncan Hunter...
Edited on Mon Mar-12-07 07:51 AM by calipendence
... and perhaps others like Brian Bilbray, etc. too.

Duncan Hunter has even more suspicious activities that are tied to him now than Cunningham did. If all Lam wanted was Wilkes' and Foggo's head on a platter, I think she could have pulled that trigger earlier last year. She pulled this trigger on the way out because those were the folks she had basically completed her investigations on.

I suspect that Rove and Bushco asked her to lay off Hunter and perhaps a few others until after the 2006 election, and then go after them. She probably at the time didn't think too much of it, even though she knew that Hunter and perhaps others got away with not getting voted out in November, feeling that ultimately she'd force them out of office with an indictment later. But she probably wasn't aware that the ultimate plan was to derail her investigation so that they could throw her out after the election before she could follow up and prosecute Hunter then. I'm betting that Hunter wasn't the only congressman that was being protected in such fashion. Very likely folks like Lewis and Doolittle (and perhaps Pombo) were also in this category too.

So unless we do further investigations (and I suspect this may be partly what the closed door session in the Senate about Lam's investigations might have been about), they still would have won by forcing her out.

The one thing that Gonzales and this crew are masters of is deflection I believe. Even with what appears to be negative, they are in fact avoiding bigger negatives and "winning" that way. Most people are starting to realize that the sentencing of Libby is also in this category, and that the real purpose of making folks (whether it was just Scooter or others pulled in as well) guilty for Valerie Plame's outing, wasn't for punishing them to get revenge on Joseph Wilson, but in fact trying to mask their efforts to shut down Brewster Jennings' activities which was likely getting closer to some real impeachable offenses by these folks (and perhaps even more treasonous and serious ones - aka murder of folks like David Kelly, and planting of WMDs and WMD evidence (Niger Docs, etc.)).
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 11:02 AM
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30. Very good point about Hunter...should have included that.
But I'm blinded by the "Hookergate" potential. That's so absurd; prostitution for Congressmen paid for by us, the tax payers. I can't get over that.

Conyers and Waxman can't do everything but they can take up the slack for various federal prosecutors, maybe Fitz, if he has to stop, but certainly Lam.
These two warhorses have forgotten more that almost all of the House Republicans know. It will be something to see.
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 06:23 PM
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55. You're so right about Conyers and Waxman
Those are two tireless fighters, aren't they? They are examples of what good Congressmen should be. I share your outrage about Hookergate, and the incredible arrogance of using taxpayer money to pay for Congressmen's prostitutes. We have to cut much needed funds for social services, while allowing Republic politicians to enrich themselves, at the expense of the needy.

I don't think there has ever been such a corrupt administration, or political party, such as we are burdened with today with Bush and Republic politicians. It's so good to see this all being examined now. Incredible, how little oversight was provided by the other side when they controlled Congress.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 07:54 AM
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17. Thanks Auto, and let's not forget the caliber of the replacements:
from Palast:

Bush's New US Attorney a Criminal?



BBC Television had exposed 2004 voter attack scheme
by appointee Griffin, a Rove aide.
Black soldiers and the homeless targeted.
by Greg Palast

March 7, 2007.

There's only one thing worse than sacking an honest prosecutor. That's replacing an honest prosecutor with a criminal.

There was one big hoohah in Washington yesterday as House Judiciary Chairman John Conyers pulled down the pants on George Bush's firing of US Attorneys to expose a scheme to punish prosecutors who wouldn't bend to political pressure.






But the Committee missed a big one: Timothy Griffin, Karl Rove's assistant, the President's pick as US Attorney for the Eastern District of Arkansas. Griffin, according to BBC Television, was the hidden hand behind a scheme to wipe out the voting rights of 70,000 citizens prior to the 2004 election.

Key voters on Griffin's hit list: Black soldiers and homeless men and women. Nice guy, eh? Naughty or nice, however, is not the issue. Targeting voters where race is a factor is a felony crime under the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

-snip

http://www.gregpalast.com/
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 01:57 PM
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43. Greg Palast nailed that one to the door of the Cathedral.

I wanted to mention that but I was uncharacteristically on task.

"Caging" is the first time Manjoo took on Palast, dismissed it. How about that.

And did you notice one "John Fund" was cc'ed on the Seattle honcho's demand letter that McKay be fired. Wonder if it's "the" John Func, nah, just a "coincidence."

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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 07:57 AM
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18. How Long Before This Whole House Of Cards Collapse?
Edited on Mon Mar-12-07 07:58 AM by Me.
Conyers wants to call Rove before his committee...oh God, want to see that happen.

On edit: RELEASE THE BLACK BOOK, RELEASE THE BLACK BOOK, RELEASE THE BLACK BOOK!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 02:07 PM
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44. Monque Von Cleft...ever hear that name...
Well, she threatened to bring down a big chunk of '70's New York City society/government...they lifted the charges real quick, much to our disappointment (I'm an expat NYer). A recently busted major DC Madam is threatening just that. It's parallel to Hookergate but may have some overlap. This black book may escape since the Republicans are notoriously stingy and probably failed to "share." You know, they "don't play well with others." So the Dems can leak it with little or no damage.

Is this the worst thing that ever happened, Congressmen getting their jollies on taxpayer money. Nope. But sex sells, just like before the midterms and the Teardown of the House Republicans. It's saver too if you are PTB - the change of power is an anomoly, doesn't reflect a defect in the the system..."and the best goes on..."
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 05:53 PM
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51. Whatever Happened To The Time Honored Tradition Of A Second Set Of Books
You'd think people would wise up, if not for their sake, ours. I so hope there are some releases soon, the book to her, the names to us.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 08:12 AM
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19. After the nightmares I was having last night, this is exactly what I needed!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 05:41 PM
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48. For all you do, you deerve a break!

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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 09:05 AM
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101. oh THANK YOU!
:hug:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 08:16 AM
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20. But since they serve at the whim of the chimp in chief,
all that can be done is point to it.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 05:44 PM
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49. You're right, it's how we do the pointing. Somehow, Conyers will get it right;)

This is his time: hero of the anti war movement, patron saint of the resistance to election fraud, social progressive, and a veteran of the last impeachment committee.

It's been so long since we've had real oversight, I'd almost forgotten that we've got two junkyard dogs, Conyers and Waxman, both with about 160 IQ's in the art of politics, both with an ax to grind.

This sill be a public dialogue...I'm betting on the old guys.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 08:56 PM
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63. Music to my ears.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 08:28 AM
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21. Excellent. K&R
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 05:45 PM
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50. Well that has me in a Hissy, in a positive way. Thanks!
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 08:38 AM
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22. republicons and hookers
the republicons are really into prostitutes, male and female, aren't they?

What does it say in their Christian Bible about using prostitutes?

Does Jesus approve of rich republicon cronies USING prostitutes?
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 09:23 AM
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26. Fornication, i.e sexual congress outside of marriage is a no-no. Period.
Edited on Mon Mar-12-07 09:25 AM by KCabotDullesMarxIII
In early O.T. times it was not. Abraham on his travels, I believe, bought the services of such a lady.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 03:07 PM
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45. Remember the Reagan Whitehouse/Male Page/Prostitution scandal
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 08:39 AM
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23. I think Carol Lam was the Bush Gang's prime target.
Edited on Mon Mar-12-07 09:26 AM by Hubert Flottz
I think the rest of the firings were to misdirect attention from PokeHerGate! It's like a guy blows the whistle on a company for wrong doing to an agency like OSHA and causes a big investigation, resulting in fines or penalties. The company wants to get even with the employee and to put a stop to that whistleblower's ever turning them in again. The company can't just up and fire that one guy, because if they do that they will be in court for discrimination against that worker. So the company decides to have about a half dozen employee layoff, in order to get rid of the one person they are targeting for calling in OSHA. They pull all the employee's records and find other employees who have done things in the past that the bosses didn't like...like being late for work, missing work, trying to organize a union and so on. The company comes up with their layoff list and bam...the whistleblower can't scream discrimination and sue them now, because the company calls it a reduction in force layoff.

I think the other Federal Attorney firings, besides the firing of Carol Lam, were to dilute or misdirect attention and suspicion away from the real object of the BushCo Gangsters main objective...which is to quash HOOKERGATE!

I've thought all along, that HOOKERGATE is Da Bomb!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 05:53 PM
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52. Hubert, I think we had some of the same teachers.

The name of the game is diversion and then destruction. Lam will not go kindly with a bow and curtsey. She really slammedl them in that, what 21 page indictment of Foggo and Wilkes. Good grief! Who is the DC prosecutor? Where the Hell is he/she?

HOOKERGATE is a $21 million scandal with, oh lets guess 80 or so fellas from the Hill. There are some heavy duty people opposing Bush, the same group that put the breath of life in to MSM before the 2006 midterms stimulating them to cover a two to four year old story every day for how many weeks? Those folks...

SEX SELLS and TAWDRY SEX REALLY SELLS. The public can watch these stories with somewhat more ease (although it still repellent) if there no teen exploitation. Think how pissed off Mr. and Mrs. Main Street will be when they find out that Congressment bought HOOKERS with THEIR TAX DOLLARS.

Sure looks like that's what happened..."Pictures at 11:00"
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 05:45 AM
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100. "I think we had some of the same teachers"
Edited on Tue Mar-13-07 05:47 AM by Hubert Flottz
I guess it's a Raider Fan Thing!

PoontangGate will be the smuttiest show on Earth and Karl is SKEERT.

America shalt not even worship American Idol anymore, when the DNA hits the fans on this one!

The Watergate pokergame scandal is like a 10,000 mega-clenis smut/slut bomb and it's ready to e-splode with a vengeance in the GOPers faces, if they can't keep the lid on in the Cunningham/Foggo thing in California!

Watergate getting them again, would just be too damned funny.

Duncan Hunter is the one I would like to see on TV crying!
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 09:15 AM
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24. Wow, Mike! It sounds like "wildest dreams" are in the pipeline.
Edited on Mon Mar-12-07 09:15 AM by KCabotDullesMarxIII
Not, of course, that even they could match the actual degree of malfeasance and assorted villainy they have been guilty of. Human language, in any case, is not sufficient to convey it. Kind of "infra"scendental.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 09:21 AM
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25. Not too old indeed. Hi, autorank. Mueller, Abu Gonzales, and Rove
should all be quartered and hung in an abandoned barn someplace.

Let the flies have at them.

They stink up the chamber of the people's house and erode citizens' confidence in the government which is supposed to be of, for, and by us and protect us from just these sorts of etrocities.

Some of my legal office pals have passed on -- this age thing can be a real bitch -- but of those who remain, word around is that Gonzales is a little puke and possibly a psychotic. They say he inspires dread and disdain.

No kidding.

Thanks for the strong hit this early on a Monday.

Hope you're doing well.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 06:02 PM
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54. Thanks for that key piece to the Gonzo puzzle ... "possibly a psychotic."
Edited on Mon Mar-12-07 06:03 PM by autorank
That's a critical contribution to the bubbling cauldron of the Cheney-Bush toxic brew.

Gonzo looks so calm, has a non challenging demeanor, and speaks softly. But it's the content that counts. If he's got those "issues" it explains how he's stuck by * all these years. He digs it.

People like Hagel and Specter enter the whale, grab the gold, and leave on their own path; occasionally to return for a big favor. I bet Specter was asked or heard the WH wanted the special prosecutor firing exemption. And I'll bet a Franklin (my favorite president) that his deal was, "You stop any real opposition to me in the primary, you come as I tell you to during the campaign, and line up the money boys and girls because I'll needed. Now do we have a deal? I thought so." That hadn't occurred to me until this moment. Thanks for your realism and the eye opener.

Hope all is well with you. Tell the crew that they're helping other citizens understand the maze of the illness that surrounds us.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 06:42 PM
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59. I don't lean toward the Norman Rockwell America of friendly sidewalks
and shallow pleasantries, but at the same time I want the phone untapped and the newspaper adherent to First Amendment capacities.

And my public school system's science classes free of fundie bullshit and my library shelves diverse and unmonitored.

Mr. Gonzales (and Ashcroft too, as long as I'm on a rant) represent the reverse of those rights and responsibilities, and I resent it.

If there were no other reason to vote against Bush, the AG appointments would have been plenty.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 09:48 AM
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27. Profound thanks for putting this all together, AR! The "family values" terrorists strike again!
We have to invent new words for these people. "Hypocrite" just doesn't do it. "Corrupt" doesn't come close. Words fail.

The Caligula Presidency. Waterboarding for fun and profit. The Congressional Pimp and Page Service.

Hugo Chavez was right. They leave the smell of sulfur behind them.

It's interesting to assess what, of our democracy, is still in working order, by the scandals revealed. By where the "Devils" put their energy. So, the lower level of the DoJ was still in fairly good working order, even with Alberto "torture memo" Gonzales in charge, until recently. Some people were still doing their jobs. Some people were still honest professionals, making objective judgments about what and who to prosecute. Then the boot came down on them. And the focus of the purge was elections. Hm-m. Diebold/ES&S weren't enough. People--if they really get their dander up--can outvote the machines. And, of course, due to the truth squad at DU, Scoop.co.nz, and other places, those dreadful Bushite-electing devices are in some disrepute. Not enough to give the Democratic leadership much alarm. They, of course, want to give Diebold/ES&S billions more taxpayer dollars to "fix' the voting machines. Har, har. But the People are alarmed, and thus, the ability of these rightwing Bushite corporations to deliver their "service" on cue is somewhat hampered. And the "Devils" actually have to compete for scandal space in the war profiteering corporate newsstream, and, as we know, they don't like competition--they like unfair advantage. Get Gonzo's guys to make us some Democratic scandal headlines we can use, dammit, now!

That's another thing that's still working: the war profiteering corporate news monopoly love of scandal. American journalism may be broken, as an institution, on all other fronts. But they still have to "sell newspapers" and attract advertisers. And, in that sense, and that sense only, they are bipartisan. Bushites make better scandals. Oh, boy, do they! Congressmen getting their rocks off, writing emails to page boys, while they vote on important matters of state (like a flag-burning amendment). Taking junkets to the slave labor prostitutes in the Marianas. Taking bribes from Indian tribes. The VP blowing his shotgun off in another Republican's face. His company "losing" billions of dollars in Iraq. Naked bodies piled up at Abu Ghraib. Dark scandals. Funny scandals. BIG scandals. The Democrats are boring. The best we can do is a blow job between consenting adults. But the Republicans, wow. They are fun. And when the Corporate Rulers want to get some cache back, with the American people, and decide to take the leash off their "reporters," the show never stops.

And there is a certain democratic leveling value in low-minded, "yellow journalism" type scandal. It's something anyway. Something is working.

Then there's the CIA. We can measure just how much the CIA had reformed itself--after the dreadful things they were doing in Latin America and other places in the '80s--and how far this secret organization had gone in changing its job description to preventing war, rather than manufacturing it--by how much energy (not to mention risk) the Bush Junta put into destroying them. Something was working right in the CIA. Honest professionals. Believers in the rule of law. Believers in the truth. That was all working better than we know. And that's WHY the boot came down on them.

FEMA. Our emergency services. Working quite well. Until...hard to figure why the Bushites would destroy that. But Halliburton getting the first no-bid contract in New Orleans surely had something to do with it. The people on the ground, both citizens and responders, trying to do their jobs, hampered from every direction by Bushite officialdom. I remember reading about a US battleship off the coast, ready to ride the storm in. Food, hospitals on board. And they couldn't get the order from the White House. And repair crews working through the night to restore electricity to--they thought--several local hospitals, only to find out that what they were doing was restoring the Texas to east coast oil pipeline, the result of a direct order from the VP. Hospitals be damned.

The EPA, and its climate change scientists. Trying to do their jobs. Our school system, our teachers--ordered to stop teaching minds, and start teaching tests. Such a pitiful waste of dedicated professionals, with such an important job to do. In any case, despite the difficulties of their job, and harassment by Bushite flat-earthers, and budgets drained thin by the Bushite killing machine in Iraq, they return every day to their classrooms and their students, and make the effort to open the world to them.

In fact, a lot of things are actually working in our democracy--despite all this Bushite Republican effort to demoralize, loot and destroy them. Somehow enough information is getting to enough people that 75% now oppose the heinous, illegal, unjust, insane Iraq War, and want it ended. They can't get Congress to stop it. They were seriously hampered in electing enough good representatives to do so. But they tried, and tried hard. So American word-of-mouth communication systems, and our new "Committees of Correspondence"--the internet--are in working order. And wouldn't you know--the Corporate Rulers (the true puppetmasters of the Bush Junta)--want to restrict and control internet communications. Surprise, surprise. Whatever still works, that favors democracy and progressive values and good government, be ready for the boot to come down on it. Be ready for scandal. Be ready for bribes. Be ready for filth. Be ready for the Republican/Corporate wrecking crew.

There is a force at work, in all these systems that are still functioning, however fitfully, despite every effort of the Bush Junta to destroy them. It is the American people, in all their different capacities, as citizens, parents, voters, small business people or employees, bloggers, campaign workers, members of non-profit groups, and as government workers, as lawyers, or spies, or soldiers, or scientists. The American people are still in working order, still believe in democracy, still believe in Constitutional government, still want honest vote counting, and still expect government to be of, by and for the people. It is our leaders who have gone off the deep end.

To the American people, when a system stops functioning--as with the Bushite purge of federal prosecutors, or the breakdown of FEMA--it is still a scandal. It is not to be tolerated. And another system kicks in, to expose it, to remedy it. With the Bushites, of course, there is so much malfeasance, it can be overwhelming. We reel from the destruction of the military, to the destruction of the CIA, to the destruction of our school system, to the destruction of our emergency services, to the destruction of our election system, to the destruction of our justice system. It never stops. But I have to say that I am impressed with our resilience, and with the rock solid principles upon which our country and our unity as a people are founded. We have not yet weathered this storm--the most vicious, ill-intentioned regime in our history, wherein the 25% of stupid Cromwellites who seem always to be with us, gained power over the rest of us, and, at the instigation of the Corporate Rulers, convinced us for a while that they were the majority. We now know that they never were. It is painful to think of them--our fellow and sister Americans, after all--sneakily inserting bad code into voting machines, or phoning black voters and telling them they will go to jail if they show up at the polling place, or pressuring prosecutors to concoct cases against Democrats. That it wasn't all Karl Rove. That a lot of folks colluded with him to destroy other peoples' rights, and to "elect" false and traitorous and criminal leaders. What can have happened to these people, to make them turn against their country, and its principles of fairness and honesty in government? Were the '60s that traumatic to the puritans and witchburners among us?

I dunno. Maybe it's just that the Corporate Rulers unhinged them and they thought that they were back in the 10th century. We have a flawed gene, in the human population, which gets triggered in this minority when they smell unmerited power, and concepts of fairness and reasonableness just don't register with them, in their frenzy to control the rest of us. They lose it. Power consumes them. The notion of Bush slaughtering tens of thousands of innocent Arabs, and us sane people being unable to do anything about it, was their wet dream. The dream of the Grand Inquisitor. The notion of forcing women back into a submissive role as baby-machines, against the will of the majority, stoked them. Stealing votes to accomplish that is not wrong, in their crazy view--a view as medieval as that of any ancient Pope. And using these sort of people was, of course, a cakewalk for the Bushites. They only had to crook their fingers and the loony 'christian' wingers would do anything they were told, and would even do it without being asked. They knew the drill. There is no crime in serving Jesus. Nutjobs, with their finger on the nuclear trigger. What a lesson for us all--both that we have unreconstructed 'christian' jihadists in our midst, always lurking in their tiny sour corners, ready to spring Armageddon on us, if we let them--and how very precious are our democratic mechanisms for keeping them out of power: our right to vote, our right to government transparency, the principle of majority rule, our commitment to reason and evidence in our justice system, and the precept that "power corrupts" and that the powerful are never to be trusted, not for one minute.

Majority rule is not just a passing fancy--some sort of pie-in-the-sky leftist ideal. Majority rule is essential to survival. With majority rule, the best ideas will rise to the top, and the worst will be discarded; and the best leaders will rise to the top, and the worst will never gain sufficient power to destroy us. The fascists always fear "mob rule." But that is not what happens when the majority rules. Interestingly, the majority ruling almost always protects minority views. But not the other way around. When a minority gains power--which is always, necessarily, by devious means--they ALWAYS suppress the majority. You can tell the majority by their largesse, by their trust in free speech and dissent, by their willingness to grant rights to all viewpoints. And you can tell that a minority has gained power by their unwillingness to play fair. By their calling prosecutors and soliciting prosecution of Democrats, in order to poison the newsstream with the false impression that Democrats are as corrupt as Republicans. By their willingness to break the law, to their political advantage. Those who hold power legitimately--by consent of the majority--don't have to do this.

The minority has shown us its ugliest face. Now we know that they are still with us--these malevolent witchburners--and how dangerous they are. The Corporate Rulers have shown their hand--their true fascist hand--their willingness to use stupidity and intolerance to loot and oppress us, and destroy our democracy. They have revealed themselves to be medieval institutions that need dismantling, if enlightened civilization is to continue, and, indeed, if life on earth is to be preserved. For all the damage that our Corporate Rulers have done, our democracy is still functioning, and most Americans still believe in it, because it is the best means of survival. It replicates the mechanism of evolution itself, the ability to change. It's no wonder that the wingers and their Corporate promoters hate both evolutionary science and democracy. The ability to change means the ability to throw these deadenders out of power.

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Well, Michael, you got me off on a rant today. Thanks for the inspiration!



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AikidoSoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 08:20 PM
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61. Wow -- that was a stunning rant!
It deserves to be its own thread. I just bookmarked this thread so I can find it again.

Adding you to my buddy list.

Wow! And thanks!

:wow:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 11:28 PM
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89. "The minority has shown us its ugliest face" and it wasn't enough
bring us down. I agree with your clearly articulated distinction between the people versus the nepotist hoarders and their Mandarin class of "experts."

The 75% figure is where the opposition of the war would have been had the NYT, PentaPost, and the rest of the media refrained from assuming the role of shameless cheerleaders (sounds like a punk band...The Shameless Cheerleaders). I digress.

The American people knew that this war was a bad move. They knew twice that this man should not be elected and they voted against him both times, only to see why the 35-45% who stay at home do so..

Yet the lizards prevailed because they were wiling to break every rule, again and again. This time, their reach exceeds their grasp in a way that will lead to a nasty fall
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 11:46 PM
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90. Wow, ProudPatriot! You just keep it up!!
:applause: You're the best writer on this board, IMHO. I wish you published your papers and nailed them to all the telephone poles up & down the highways, until every American had a chance to read what you write.



loudsue


:kick::kick::kick::kick:
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coznfx Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:07 AM
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95. Who needs a 1000 page book
to explain how we became saddled with the despicable, stinking mess we call the US Government, and what can be done about it? You just did it in 15 paragraphs.

MOST excellent. Thank you.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 09:58 AM
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28. I would laugh my a** off if a high-profile Repub's favorite hooker were named Monica.
That would be such sweet poetic justice, served with a dash of irony.

Excellent reporting, autorank. Very well done. :thumbsup:

(I love that line in your post, "In a rare case of the messenger shooting himself ..." :D )
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 11:06 AM
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31. Thanks so much. In my research I came across a factoid like the
wonderful irony you mentioned...but if I mention it or the other related facts, I'll get myself in trouble.

What if the Republicans favorite named Monica insisted that she call the Republican ... nope, not going there ... PM
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 10:07 AM
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29. K+R
Yep, who'd 'a thunk it?
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galloglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 11:26 AM
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33. K and R !!
Bookmarked until evening!
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 06:44 PM
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60. kick
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 11:44 AM
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34. "...the troubles are just beginning."
Yes, things are beginning to stick. Amazing the difference between being the minority v majority party, particuarly since * took the WH.




Outstanding article.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 09:28 PM
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67. Thanks!!!
We have a majority of two - Conyers & Waxman...Lantos is looking good too.

I didn't know how he would work out as chairman of the House Foreign Relations Committee but Lantos is kicking ass, in a big way. So that's three old dogs who know their tricks.

It is great having a majority!
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 11:54 AM
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35. Focus, focus. Thanks a lot autorank. You are the media.
I think the firing of Lam is the issue, and our fine, ass-covering congress is worried sick about hookergate. But I think this is just the tits of the iceberg. :eyes: What the public will find is that our CIA has been using its skills against the US, and their skill set goes well beyond using hookers to compromise politicians.

You rock.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 09:39 PM
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71. donkeyotay.. Thanks so much. Big "coincidence" today in DC...
Edited on Mon Mar-12-07 09:39 PM by autorank
The madam charged with tax evasion, the one who has 13 years of records for DC "johns," was just given the right to SELL HER RECORDS to anyone who will pay (read "The Enquirer" or "Hustler"). This is stunning. Happened about 8 hours ago. So far as I've seen, she's not the one who ran the Watergate operation for our public servants but who knows. Just amazing. I've never heard of anything like this but, then again, I don't pay a lot of attention to local courts regarding these matters. Still, damn, some painful confessions will be practiced until the highest bidder is determined.

Excellent point on the Langley folks. Though I think a lot of them are fed up with * and wish their HQ had a different name...like the "Matta Hari Center for Really Hot Intelligence"

Cheers!
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 11:03 AM
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102. Lol, the MHCRHI. Yes, Langley might be both our curse and salvation.
I was wondering about the hooker ring, too. I read "Silent Coup." We are living in interesting times.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 12:04 PM
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36. If they've lost diGenova, there may yet be hope...
Edited on Mon Mar-12-07 12:14 PM by Kurovski
I wonder what his wife Toensing thinks of all this.

Nixon is a sweet little Quaker boy scout compared to the organized criminal squatters in our capitol.

Impeach, indict, imprison. K&R.

Hi, auto!:hi:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 09:53 PM
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73. Good evening Prince Kurovski...at your service.

Finally a story of mine with some real scandal...wacky Senator hangs up on prosecutor then really strangen Heather leans on the guy. You remember Heather Wilson, the US Rep who when a state law official in NM removed an investigative file of her husband from a state agency for some reason...oh, yeah, the file contained allegations that hubby had been highly inappropriate with a minor...but, noooooo, Heather wold never pressre the federal prospector to influence her election, never. Well maybe once or twice...before every election.

:hi:dy Ho!
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 12:05 PM
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37. A BIG K&R!!! n/t
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 10:05 PM
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76. And a big thank you in return!!!
Edited on Mon Mar-12-07 10:32 PM by autorank
:hi:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 12:06 PM
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38. K&R!
Thanks for alerting me to this one!

Great job, my dear autorank!

:patriot:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 10:33 PM
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83. Thank you Miss Peggy of the Golden State
Birthplace of yours truly...

See you in The Lounge for a night cap.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 12:40 PM
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40. K&R
Nicely done.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 10:34 PM
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84. Thanks for the kind words, and I do and will, in answer to your username.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 01:07 PM
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41. I am betting the Hookergate Reservations Book is a hot item on Capitol Hill...
Edited on Mon Mar-12-07 01:07 PM by Blackhatjack
.... the worst kind of hypocrisy is to hold yourself out as the 'defender of family values against the amoral liberals" and then be exposed as a regular user of drugs or prostitutes.

I do not think people will be surprised to learn the truth about what goes on with their Congressmen.

However, there are plenty of conservative fundamentalists that take a dim view of this kind of conduct.

I vote for full disclosure, let the chips fall where they may.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 10:00 PM
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74. Lots of people will wish they had a black hat when they're crowned with the dunce cap for
...total stupidity. What part of don't interfere with a Federal investigation didn't these people understand? When a federal prosecutor appointed by the President of the United States, also of your party, chooses not to prosecute election fraud, how hard is it to realize that there probably isn't any fraud? When you're elected to Congress, how in the heck do you get the notion you get to take free limousine rides at lunch to see pros and gamble...for free? The people we honor with the right to serve are now serving themselves.

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 01:55 PM
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42. CORRECTION - 2ND PARA Iglesias, New Mexico - truncated lines...sorry.
Paragraph 2 in first section David Iglesias, New Mexico. Code truncated 2-3 lines, sorry

Should read (or just go to the link:

A big part of the pressure was from Congresswoman Heather Wilson, (R-NM)]. She called Iglesias and reportedly pressured him to indict the same Democrats requested by Domenici. Iglesias would have none of it. Wilson later said that she’d called to help Iglesias with his investigation, an assertion that became the object of mockery among commentators. Regarded as Domenici’s political heir for the New Mexico Senate seat, she was one of those Republicans who would benefit form early indictments of high profile Democrats. Wilson needed every bit of leverage available to win re-election. She won by less than 1,000 votes in one of those controversial elections.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 09:11 PM
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64. Personally
I liked "Congresswoman Karl Rove". My eye kind of zipped right past it while I was reading like it was natural.

What does that say about me? :crazy:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 10:03 PM
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75. You were galloping to the exciting conclusion...
Edited on Mon Mar-12-07 10:04 PM by autorank
...only to find that the story is to be continued;) Your brain just filled in the blanks. It's all at the link. "Scoop" did a great job on the article and got it posted right away. Thank you Alastair.

This is amazing. The press is actually following this, asking the right questions, etc.

The Law.Com articles the very best of the bunch, however. It just nails it, in terms of narrative.

Here's the Law.Com link, sweet stuff,

http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1173434614487



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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:43 PM
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46. Recommended!!!!!....... Now that's what I call a SCOOP Autorank.
Looks like we are all in for some really hot TV and DU discussions.
Tip! If you want to get rich...buy some stock in Orville Redenbacher...especially if they turn up Jeff Gannon under some rock.
Looks like we'll have enough scandal to last till the next election.
Shame on Arlen Specter.
Nice work autorank!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 05:10 PM
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47. Conyers needs to read this.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 10:09 PM
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77. Thanks Auntie
I've read more interesting and intriguing posts on DU in the past 48 than I can remember for a long time. It's just rokken!

My favorite find...Rove was ready to testify against Libby and make Cheney look the liar if Cheney had testified. Why God? What did we do to have you deny us that pure, unadulterated pleasure. Mind blowing...

Blumenthal on Fitz "owning" Rove
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 05:59 PM
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53. John Fund
Oh, how I hate that little salamander and would love nothing better than to see some misery and mayhem -- esp. of the legal variety -- visited upon his sorry ass. What is HIS interest in any of this?
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 10:14 PM
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78. Your wish is my command...re Fund.
I agree with your version of Mr. Reich wing.

Fund wrote a book on "voter" fraud, individual voters wrongly voting. It was their insurance against a break in the "election fraud" cases...the mass stealing of votes through computer manipulation and voter disenfranchisement by the thousands. For fund, this case would have been the corner stone, the Santa Maria, to take him to the new world of contrived Democratic cheating, which hardly ever occurs. A huge study showed how little there is and a recent study validated that.

Now, there may be another "John Fund," in which case, his motives are entirely unknown. Maybe it's just a COINCIDENCE. Yeah, probably...

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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 12:46 PM
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105. He wrote a BOOK on VotER Fraud? O.M.G.
Of course it was their backstory and distraction if the REAL election fraud became a hot topic on MSM.

What a LYING little salamander. Not sure I can hold onto my lunch here. He gives me the creeps like few people have in my lifetime.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 06:27 PM
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56. Mr. Vice-President Rank, I'm 12 hours late to your party
Work, sleep, that kind of stuff.

But congratulations for digging up the dirt and putting together a great, illustrative post.

Onward, brother.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 10:18 PM
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80. On ward to you Steve DeShazer...
It will all be revealed or not but all it takes is another sex scandal and the version of the Republican Party will be headed for a shelf in the Smithsonian.

Sleep...yep, soon!
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 06:39 PM
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57. Autorank, go read Silent Coup by Colodny and Gitlin re Watergate
Edited on Mon Mar-12-07 06:41 PM by EVDebs
and what was behind it...

now, fast forward to recent times

FBI probes Watergate prostitution allegations
Infamous hotel used by defense contractor to entertain lawmakers?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12634250/

""The other major revisionist wrinkle is the authors' contention that John Dean ordered the Watergate break-in because he knew that a call-girl ring was operating out of the Democratic headquarters and wanted some embarrassing documents. The woman who ran the ring was reportedly a friend of Dean's, and Maureen Biner Dean was her roommate when John and Mo were courting in 1971. Stay tuned: John and Maureen are suing the authors, along with G. Gordon Liddy, who agrees with the book, for $50 million. When he first heard of the suit on 1/30/92, Liddy said it was "the second happiest day of my life. The first happiest will be when we finally get John Dean on the witness stand under oath. No more perjury-infested dog and pony show.""

from http://www.namebase.org/books61.html

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 10:24 PM
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81. I'll get it on your recommendation Debs...
What was behind it?

What was the outcome?

Ford in, Cheney and Rumsfeld prevail in the White House internal debate over the strength of our then adversary, the Soviet Union. They are aligned with the Jean Kirkpatrick neoconservative Jacobins who see the Soviets as armed to the hilt, rather than struggling for spare parts. How do they know of this claimed Soviet strength? The fact that we have not seen it, the neocons argue, proves that it exists. I wish I were making this up.

Hows that?
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 12:18 PM
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104. BTW, also look at
Bob Woodward's background
http://www.ctka.net/pr196-woodward.html

A Few Thoughts About Watergate
http://metroactive.com/papers/sonoma/07.03.97/scoop-9727.html

and the bio in spartacus on Bradlee's intel background

Ben Bradlee
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKbradleeB.htm

...same game plan as with this '73 plan to seize Saudi oil fields

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/01/02/MNG8G427D61.DTL

My theory is that the military wanted Nixon out because DrK had negotiated a class of subs away, as mentioned in Blind Man's Bluff, by Sherry Sontag and Chris Drew, page 246-247 paperback, Chapter 8, "Kissinger had made a glaring mistake during arms negotiations...", well, I'll leave that for you to figure out.

DrK was being spied upon by the Moorer/Radford DOD vs. NatSecWH operation mentioned in the start of Silent Coup.
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rgbecker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 06:39 PM
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58. This begs the question....
If not going along gets these 8 fired, what have the other U.S. Attorneys been doing in order to keep their jobs?
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 10:30 PM
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82. rgbecker Welcome to DU!!! Doesn't beg the question at all...
They do what prosecutors do...go after tax thieves, interstate vice and violence, crimes against the Federal government or on federal land or related to government contracts. What these eight did wrong was step on the toes of big contributors or high level Republican legislators and, in the case of Lam, threaten to knock over the entire house of cards. If she'd gone after those smuggling people across the border, the dope trade, some Democrats who crossed the line, there would have been no problem. There's just a special zone that the prosecutors can't enter. They all did and Specter gave Bush the tool he needed to clean house...but the WH is paying a very high price. We'll find out at some point that there were even bigger scandals, more threatening to the WH. Those guys won't stand for that kind of behavior. The message is sent to the others, knock it off!

Welcome
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AikidoSoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 08:34 PM
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62. Thank you Auto Rank. K & R
:yourock:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 10:34 PM
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85. Thank you AikidoSoul...
:hi:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 09:22 PM
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65. WOW !!! - Big K & R !!!
:kick::applause::kick:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 10:35 PM
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86. I'm honored Mr. T!!!
:toast: to you and your fine work.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 09:30 PM
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68. What I believe: the bases of Bushie power are money and BLACKMAIL
Edited on Mon Mar-12-07 09:43 PM by Nothing Without Hope
I also believe that this is nothing new - for example, see the link re the White House prostitution scandal during Reagan/Bush I, linked to upthread here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x392532#395243.

I believe that BLACKMAIL is what is really behind the male and female prostitution scandals that are surfacing now and also with "Jeff Gannon" earlier - though, amazingly, he is still around, too. "Escort service" - and a threat to expose his closeted clients would be a strong incentive to follow orders. So easy to entrap these stupid, arrogant people. So easy to accumulate a bank of blackmail evidence to keep them in line.

I believe that BLACKMAIL is one of the most important, if not THE most important true reason behind the Bushie orgy of secret wiretapping and spying. Get something on an opponent, a journalist, a judge, a wealthy CEO, even a powerful member of your own party who might develop loose lips about what he/she knows about the criminal dealings of the Administration - threaten exposure and destruction of their careers and cushy jobs. They'd be easy to handle then. Wonder what they've got on Lieberman? Wonder what they've got on the DLC people who are dragging their feet on truly opposing the Bushies?

Bribes and blackmail and seemingly endless horror. Oh yeah, this is all the tip of the iceberg, and it's been in place and growing for a long, long time. May the trickle of truth become a strong cleansing tide.

K & R - thanks, autorank.



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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 09:37 PM
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69. Howdy, Hope!
Long time no see.

You're absolutely right, but I believe the difference is us.

We (all who seek the truth) haven't ever been able to dissect everything they fed us like we can today. The power of the intertubes, the instant communication, and the burning fire of millions of eyes looking for the truth is a very powerful disinfectant. Then we can turn that passion into action. As bad as they are, we're ten times better. And we will prevail.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 09:47 PM
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72. Hiya Pats! Excellent mini-rant!
Edited on Mon Mar-12-07 09:52 PM by Nothing Without Hope
I agree, we progressives and our many kinds of fellow truth-seekers are making a difference. We must continue to fight and not allow the DLC connivers to quietly continue the status quo while lip-synching platitudes.

Very nice to see you! :hug:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 10:41 PM
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87. There's Nothing Without Hope indeed!
The flesh trade offers more than just "lust in the dust," that's for sure.

This goes way back, like thousands of years. There's a lot data and secret lore handed down like the great epics were handed down by the ancient Greeks.

The weakness of the average egomaniac in power is the fuel for this engine of destruction.

We need "a cleansing tide" and soon. Getting pretty raunchy in my part of the country and it's caused by just a few. They should leave for, oh, Paraguay or Dubai or Burma.

The very best to you!
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 12:49 AM
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94. The best to you, too Autorank!
To elaborate just a bit further, I believe the two main purposes of the Bushie domestic spying spree are (1) collection of blackmail evidence, and (2) monitoring for possible leaks or potential exposure of their crimes in time to block them, sometimes by using material collected under part (1). Terrorism? Hey, THEY have been the biggest terrorists and criminals. They just want to keep consolidating and expanding their empire.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 02:43 AM
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106. Will Dubai become the 51st state?
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 09:38 PM
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70. Peace and love to you autorank
great post - but that is what I always expect from you!!!

This one rocks!!!

kp
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 10:48 PM
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88. Thank you kpete
I'm rokken because of that great Blumenthal post you did a few days ago. That started me thinking, "Hey, there's nothing these people won't do" and I was right. Rove held as an ambush witness.



Here's one for you...




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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 12:11 AM
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91. Wow
K&R
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msedano Donating Member (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 12:19 AM
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92. Thanks and so long.
When Carol Lam was appointed down in San Diego I groaned that another GOP prosecutor had landed the plum job of a US Attorney. Now to see Lam prosecuted her job with remarkable honesty gives me second thoughts. That Iglesias task the moral high road, puro integrity on his part, speaks highly of the person, if not the party he registers. Hope the hearings do more than prove the white house is rotten to the core.

recommended
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 12:41 AM
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93. Obstruction of justice.
The great ship Neocon runs aground.

Our continent is bigger than their boat.


:thumbsup:
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:16 AM
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96. Great Tidbits.
K&R
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:30 AM
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97. Thank you for posting this, autorank.
It's getting hard to keep up with the "scandal a day" Bush administration.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:35 AM
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98. Gonzo-boy, Hollywood couldn't have casted a better character....
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 02:57 AM
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99. Thannks for the reference to Arlen Specter's little gift to the Bush administration
Quote from OP:

snip>

It’s no coincidence that the eight were removed when they were. This process was a gift to the President by Republican Senator Arlen Specter. In a clever move before the bill was finalized, Specter included a few sentences in the Patriot Act broadening the options for the midterm dismissal of federal prosecutors. The White House noticed this loophole and used it when needed, without restraint.

snip>

I really hope the connection to the very convenient Patriot Act revisions will not get lost in this story.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 12:04 PM
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108. I think Specter was to cute by half...
I'd also bet a Franklin that Specter traded that little tid bit for WH support for his re election.

He says he put the language in and let people have a chance to look at it. What a joke. He knows most Senators don't even read legislation.

Now he's back peddling and saying "oops, we better change the Patriot Act." What a cynic. He reminds me of "JR" on the old TV show "Dallas." (actually, JR was pretty interesting, the only smart guy on the whole show). Amazing!
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 11:13 AM
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103. It is sad to say, but Hookergate disclosures would do more good than other actions we could take...
There is something to be said about impairing the credibility of Bush corruption defenders by fully exposing their own corruption in the Hookergate scandal.

It would be hard for them to take the floor and argue against holding this Administration accountable for its corruption when they are so publicly exposed to be hypocrites themselves.

There is so much corruption to investigate on Capitol Hill, but hopefully Dems will not take their foot off the gas on Hookergate.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 11:54 AM
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107. Sex sells!
...and has a big impact: Teardown
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