he and his boys deserve a good whoopin', texas-style

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Remember we DID NOT LOSE THE WAR IN VIET NAM. We stood down as the South Viet Nam soldiers stood up. They lost not us we declared victory and left.
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BBC REPORTS TODAY - Quoted from DAILY MAIL :-



The comments "directly contradicted so much of what the government had said", our correspondent added.

Sir Richard might be issuing a "very public warning" to the next prime minister, he said.

In his interview, Sir Richard added that any initial tolerance "has largely turned to intolerance. That is a fact."

Sir Richard, who took on his role in August, also said planning for what happened after the initial successful war military offensive was "poor, probably based more on optimism than sound planning".

'Not invited in'

He said: "I don't say that the difficulties we are experiencing round the world are caused by our presence in Iraq but undoubtedly our presence in Iraq exacerbates them."

Sir Richard told the newspaper: "We are in a Muslim country and Muslims' views of foreigners in their country are quite clear.

"As a foreigner, you can be welcomed by being invited in a country, but we weren't invited certainly by those in Iraq at the time."

He added: "Whatever consent we may have had in the first place, may have turned to tolerance and has largely turned to intolerance."

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Well, what's next, pull the troops? Cut and run? In a couple weeks, so we have some boy-killer bodies to send off to Iranian death? Get that war going, and stop the elections with some domestic attack and martial law?

God, I'm so paranoid these days.

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The official results may be held, but we need to make sure that we do the best we can to make more people aware of them unofficially--and loudly.

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Who has gotten rid of Saddam? No one has gotten rid of Saddam.
As conventional wisdom begins to masticate a Tri-Part Iraq, which oddly was a plan first proffered forcibly by a Democrat, someone had better think through a couple of the moving parts and their all too likely consequences.
To wit, the Shia portion of the Tri-Part solution will come to rule with a component of Theocracy and a component of brutality, i.e. force under arms. The Kurds will continue with their existing autonomous political and military structure.
Arms and brutality will also, absolutely, have to be a component of the nascent Sunni Tri-Part element. What will this element look like? Who will be its leaders?
If this Tri-Part element is to be wholly Sunni it follows, as night follows day, that the previous in-control Bathist leaders, presently called insurgents, will gain or regain enormous sway.
If you wish to envision a scene of unimaginable incompetency and failure then simply follow the consequences of allowing a nationalistic Sunni entity to reform.
Saddam lives. He is now neutered. But if by some act of Kafkaesque incompetency the Sunnis reform politically he may again become a source of influence. If this transition from today's abject failure in Iraq to tomorrow's "Experiment To Win" plan is botched it may become politically impossible to execute Saddam.
That Saddam is no longer in power is the only surviving justification for the GOP's devastatingly inept and costly adventure in Iraq.
If Osama remains on the loose and it becomes impossible to execute Saddam the only word which will describe this administrations' foreign policy legacy is grotesque.

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As we will soon be looking for a Sunni leader in the mold of Arafat with whom to make accomodations I bring out this piece of mine from Jan. 2005.

GHOST OF ARAFAT

Iraq is now a civil war. We have simply chosen a side. References to Vietnam are tactically correct, but passe politically. The analogies are Israel/Palestine, American Revolution and Northern Ireland.

The ghost of Arafat will appear from the Sunni side and George B. to his enormous bile-choking displeasure will have to deal. Were that it were otherwise but this is written.

Fielding one per cent of the Sunni fighting-age men as active insurgents/freedom fighters with three percent as cadre (40,000) creates a stalemate. They can not dislodge us and our Shia forces nor can we pacify them.

Personally I would find this leader (or group) now and begin the next phase. Offer them administrative control of electric and water reconstruction projects. Have them create no-kill, no-maim zones, implement the projects, Halliburton yes, Halliburton no, who cares, and we release the money on a quasi 'completion' basis.

This gambit lacks all pride and ego but we do get to stay a while.

CAJ Jan. 05'

Sarge might say "Light em if you got em," for a change.

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"Not to quibble. Any bad news for the Bush administaration is good news for the rest of us, but the U.S. did win the war, such as it was, and lost the occupation. I'm tired of people calling it a war since it's been an occupation for the last three plus years.

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How clever these elites are. The first stage "Stabilize Baghad", what does that mean? Would the Iraq people in Baghad have to agree that conditions are "stable"? I suspect James Baker and cohorts simply want to give the Bushies a way to claim at least a "draw". What will happen if a courageous political figure demands that Americans reflect on the lives and treasure that has been lost in this venture. Of course the real discussions are going on about Iraqi oil and prospect of U. S. bases in the region, but I guess the proper term would be "redeployment".

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This whole game was about OIL, and feeding the War Profiteers, not about democracy.

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And in that respect, "They" did win. Some very rich people became SO much richer from all of this. It was never about "Winning" the war. It was about using up a bunch of toys so someone could get paid to replace them. See "The Theory and Practice of Collective Oligarchism" by Emmanuel Goldstein for a more detailed description.

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The UK's top general says presence of UK troops exacerbates endemic Iraqi violence. [ie we lost]. The pannel you cite says, in gobbledy gook, we lost. If the bubble W & his handlers is organic, osmosis through dp will deliver the message WE LOST to W et al by 2012. W's term ends Jan 20, 2009. It's far past time to quibble about saving face. It's time to get US troops out to save their lives. To be crude: Save your ass. If you live you can cover your ass later with face saving lies.
Dr Kissinger is in W's bubble now. Dr K, aka Hank the K, was aroud when USA declared victory in 'Nam & hauled ass out of Saigon with Uncle Ho & Gen Giap's troops gnawing on our heels; he knows the drill.
In the unlikely event of indicting W, his handlers & sychophants for treason &/ impeachment for W & Sure Shot Cheney in early 2007, the pull out can begin when they are out of office. Dr. K was around when Spiro & Tricky Dick resigned too. He knows the drill for that.
There is more than ample evidence to support charges of treason for W & co, find the perps guilty, sentence them to death & execute all of them by Jun 30, 2007.
Since Dr Rice is an accomplished academic & a quick study she can step into the Dr Kissinger role & supervise the pull out. That would allow Dr K to be indicted, tried, found guilty & to be executed with W et al. If Dr Rice has scruples & an incurable death wish, General Powell, formerly Secretary of State, might de called upon to serve his country by supervising the removal of W & co from office but that would be a very difficult task. Gen Powell has paid his dues & then some.
The regime change from the autocratic W & co's virtual dictatorship back to democracy will be difficult but it can & must be done at once.

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The ruling class of bankers has dictated that wars are a necessity now. The wars fuel the economy and the war materials suppliers rely on wars to surivive. Without wars and drug trafficking the stock market would collapse. (a good thing). So go along with the ruling class and send your children to die in a war, it's good economic policy!

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crowing about his almighty wonderful president and war? You can bet he isn't in Iraq. He is probably too embarrassed to respond to this article.

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Gen. Murtha has been saying redeploy for months. I pray that the people will cast their vote in November and vote out the republicans. This party that has been in power for years and has lost sight of common decency and have tossed our sacred Constitution to the wind. They care more for power and greed than they do for the lives of our brave soldiers being killed in Iraq. According to some news reports a child predator walked the halls of Congress with the knowledge of many rebublican senators and congressmen. Speaker Hastert has denied any knowledge until a few weeks ago. If an in depth investigation occurs the truth will come out, if not then this slimy fish will be buried along with the other crud in washington which is swept under the carpet on a daily basis.

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Gen. Murtha has been saying redeploy for months. I pray that the people will cast their vote in November and vote out the republicans. This party that has been in power for years and has lost sight of common decency and have tossed our sacred Constitution to the wind. They care more for power and greed than they do for the lives of our brave soldiers being killed in Iraq. According to some news reports a child predator walked the halls of Congress with the knowledge of many rebublican senators and congressmen. Speaker Hastert has denied any knowledge until a few weeks ago. If an in depth investigation occurs the truth will come out, if not then this slimy fish will be buried along with the other crud in washington which is swept under the carpet on a daily basis.

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as long as this War is over and we have made Iraq's oil ours. I'm sure the Iranians are looking forward to a little old fashioned American Democracy and being 'Liberated' of their oil too!

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What can we expect from the bastard who engineered the Swift Boat captains? Rove is the master of dirty pool. Having said that, I believe some of those evangelical right wingers are indeed nuts, but then, I am not in charge of the Faith Based Initiative Bush started. Lets see how Falwell and Robertson explain this.

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Things in Iraq have been going in the crapper for quite some time now despite the best efforts of IdiotBush's propagandists.

A multitude of responsible and learned persons, including general officers on the ground iin Iraq, have been telling us about the failure of this miserable and illegal war for quite some time but all of a sudden, a commission, led by the mysterious 'back-room strategist" James Baker the 3rd, is supposed to lend some credibility to what we've known all along.

Trust me, when this highly paid crud of a lawyer crawls out from under his rock, things are indeed bad for the administration. You will recall that it was this same slimeball who rushed down to Florida to assist in getting IdiotBush s'elected, also that he has been called upon to "settle" many of the Bush's interests.

Why anyone would bother to take the word of an oil lawyer for anything is beyond me. Baker's main concern is about oil profits, anything else is pure window dressing.

Nothing is more pathetic than a millionaire oil lawyer posturing as one who cares about the nation or its people.

So Baker, spare us your bullshit and crawl back under your "Carlyle Group rock" until they need you again to help s'elect the next Republican millionaire. What a pompous ass! What a bag of fetid wind!

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The West promotes Islamic Terrorism and the Extermination of Oriental Christians

The US failed to grasp that a main pillar of the colonial plan carried out by France and England in the Middle East is the extermination of the Oriental Christians. Only an Aramaean state built upon the ashes of Iraq and Syria can allow them survive in Peace.

The atrocious act of beheading in Mosul an Aramean priest, father Paulus Iskandar, kidnapped in the district Al- Sina’a on Monday 9 October 2006 by a unknown Islamic group in Mosul, illuminates very well the reality of a hidden war: that waged by the Atheist, pseudo-Christian, West against the Eastern Christians.

When today at 13.00 hour (Iraqi time) the funeral of the Aramaean priest took place, the British and the French should have been lowered, and honours of Hero offered by the respective ambassadors in Baghdad. There is no doubt that behind the murderous Muslim hand the European colonial empires have been hidden.

The fact that political and diplomatic classes in these countries may dismiss this historical conclusion as conspiracy-oriented illusion changes nothing in this regard.

Diachronic Western Christian Hatred against Oriental Christians

Missionaries sent at the times of the Ottoman Empire spread division instead of the union they were repeatedly promising, and for centuries. The first arrived there in the middle of the 16th century, and since the Aramaean Christians were settled in the Eastern Ottoman provinces and in the Western Iranian provinces, missionaries were long playing politics, promising help (hat never arrived) instead of religious doctrine modification.

The Christian Aramaeans were either Monophysitic (the term is conventionally used) or Nestorian, whereas non Christian Aramaeans were Gnosticist Mandaeans. By those days they consisted in at least 35% of the respective provinces that cover vast parts of today’s Western Iran, the entire South-Eastern part of Turkey (around ¼ of the country’s area), plus Syria and Lebanon. They were speaking various dialects of Syriac Aramaic, later phase of Jesus’ own language, a language and scripture of which originate Arabic.

The Western missionaries, although ruling the countries they came from (contrarily to the Eastern Christians who were minorities within the two superpowers of the Islamic World), must have felt a severe complex of inferiority towards the Aramaeans, whose language and scripture was the international language par excellence for many long centuries before and after the Islam, being used from NW Africa to China, and from Central Asia to the Eastern Coast of Africa. Latin and Ancient Greek had also been vehicles of international communication, but in a far more restricted area than Aramaic.

European Christians exposed Oriental Christians to Ottoman /Iranian punishment

After the perverse work of the criminal, bogus-Christian missionaries, Aramaeans within the Ottoman Empire were exposed through various activities (that were taken because of the false promises) in favour of Safevid Iran, and then severely reprimanded.

In the same way, Aramaeans within Safevid Iran were exposed through various activities (that were taken because of the false promises) in favour of the Ottoman Empire, and then thoroughly chastised.

European Christians split Oriental Christians

Furthermore, all the Aramaeans were exposed to further division, as some Nestorian Christians (renowned for more than 1000 years for their aniconic cult - they were not using icons or statues - and their rejection of Jesus’ divine nature) conditioned ....

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