1. THE LOOK.
For the first time, I really like the default look and feel of Ubuntu. A
purple wallpaper, with a dark menu and a glossy orange progress-bar.
Great artwork!
2. IT'S EASY.
First time you logon to your shiny new Lucid Lynx desktop, it seems you
will have to enter your password a million of times.
That is only the first time, because the new version of Ubuntu, provides
you the option to store your passwords and in the end this means that
you will never have to enter them again.
After rebooting Lucid Lynx again, it didn't even prompted me for a
password, to connect to my wireless router!
3. BINGHOO.
A couple of Ubuntu users (including me) where pretty concerned about the
BingHoo deal. Yet as a matter of fact, we have been over reacting. The
BingHoo deal is not such a big deal after all for the end user.
If you don't want BingHoo to be your default search engine, the only
thing you have to do, is to click the dropdwon button in the Firefox
search bar and choose your preferred search engine. Next time if you
fire up Firefox, it will present you a startup page of your preferred
search engine, with the Ubuntu Logo.
4. IT's IN ALPHA STAGE (FOR CRYING OUT LOUD).
The current stage is quite buggy, the Nouvau driver for example prints a
pretty "distorted" screen. I was able to work around the problem by
installing the Nvidia Binary Blob (which I would install anyway). And to
be honest it's pretty unstable as well.
No wonder it's still in Alpha stage.
However, it is pretty clear that Ubuntu 10.4 will be a very exciting and
promising release.
Ubuntu 10.4, I already Love it!
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|0|0|0| Microsoft: Who will we blame today?
____/ Marti van Lin on Thursday 11 Mar 2010 21:25 : \____
If you like Ubuntu and don't like the Bong [sic] deal, then wait for a derivative
like Linux Mint to come out (corresponding to same version). Put your bytes where
it suits your voice. Or your wallet, however the saying goes...
If Ubuntu sees people turning to Mint because of the search deal, they might
retreat from it.
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> I've installed Ubuntu Lucid Lynx Alpha 3.............
This weeks boooooring <yawn> "success" story about yet another piece of
Linux crapware!
Brown desktop, like poo, how compelling for you, huh (s)Marti!
Move on to the next distro!, 499 to go!
>
> After rebooting Lucid Lynx again, it didn't even prompted me for a
> password, to connect to my wireless router!
Hm, did it have gui front end for startup services or you have to
do it lame way or dig into
unkown territory of unfnished alpha stage product called upstart?
Greets
Sometimes online sometimes not
> I've installed Ubuntu Lucid Lynx Alpha 3 yesterday and I am amazed about
> it's default look and the improvements in the Gnome desktop environment
> for the non tech savvy "general" user.
Who cares Marti?
You post a different "I love Linux xxxyyyyzzz distribution" story
every other week.
Just like boyfriends Marti, you fall in love with a different
version of Linux "BI-weekly"....
They changed the Ubuntu desktop theme, though!
From diarrhea:
http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/804features/images/features/screens/home/1.jpg
to stiff shit!
http://polishlinux.org/stuff/general/default_ubuntu_desktop.png
Great review of Lucid Linx snipped.
> > 3. BINGHOO.
> > A couple of Ubuntu users (including me)
> > where pretty concerned about the
> > BingHoo deal. Yet as a matter of fact,
> > we have been over reacting. The
> > BingHoo deal is not such a big deal
> > after all for the end user.
Personally, I think it's great that Microsoft is willing to subsidize
Linux by paying for preferred status as search engine.
I don't even mind if Microsoft generates a little revenue from the
deal.
Microsoft's bigger problem with Binghoo is that the search results are
suspect, and this will probably be enough to put people back on
Google.
People go to Google because they want the good, the bad, and the
ugly. Bing has a smart filter that can detect when a document makes
disparaging remarks about an advertiser, and deletes those articles
from the index. Great for the advertisers, but not what search users
are looking for.
Look up Linux, FireFox, and OpenOffice, and notice the order in which
the articles are returned. Each result set is loaded with results
which are favorable to Microsoft.
> > If you don't want BingHoo to be your default search engine, the only
> > thing you have to do, is to click the dropdwon button in the Firefox
> > search bar and choose your preferred search engine. Next time if you
> > fire up Firefox, it will present you a startup page of your preferred
> > search engine, with the Ubuntu Logo.
I hope Concentric is charging FireFox for this placement.
The other thing this Bing placement does, is gives Microsoft a more
accurate assesment of how many Linux users there really are. I
wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft altered it's revenue projections
based on the result.
Of course, it also gives Yahoo that same information, and Yahoo may be
more willing to share this information with others, as well as adopt
more Linux-friendly policies.
> > Ubuntu 10.4, I already Love it!
I'll probably wait for a more stable version. I could test it in a
virtual machine, maybe using virtualBox.
> If you like Ubuntu and don't like the Bong [sic] deal,
> then wait for a derivative like Linux Mint to come out
> (corresponding to same version). Put your bytes where
> it suits your voice. Or your wallet, however the saying goes...
Personally, I like Linux Mint just because they have a more pragmatic
policy related to binary-only drivers and proprietary software, which
can be obtained from Linux Mint.
> If Ubuntu sees people turning to Mint because of the
> search deal, they might retreat from it.
Actually, this is a deal with FireFox, not Ubuntu.
It's likely that all Linux distributions will soon be sporting FireFox
browsers preset to Bing.
It's so easy to switch that it's not a big deal. There are several
search services available, including Google, Yahoo, Amazon, Answers,
EBay, Creative Commons, and Wikipedia
It's an Alpha and thus it's not ready for "Joe Sixpack". It's for
testers only. I am one of those testers, so what is your point?
I am only saying in a Linux Advocacy Usenet Newsgroup that "Lucid Lynx"
looks very promising,
I assume that the final release of Ubuntu 10.4 will kick the Sh1t out of
that garbage called Microsoft Windows 7. And please don't get me wrong,
I tested Windows 7 RC1 very well.
The problem with Microsoft is, that the racketeers can't stand a single
bit of competition and from what I've seen so far from the Alpha
release, Microsoft will have a *huge* problem, starting at April 29 2010
(the release date of Ubuntu 10.4).
Hmmm. why do I have this strange feeling that you are yet another
Flatfish sock puppet?
... odd ...
Maybe because you can't refute his points?
> ... odd ...
Yes, you certainly are Marti.
> Branimir Maksimovic wrote:
> > On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:25:32 +0100
> > Marti van Lin <ml2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> After rebooting Lucid Lynx again, it didn't even prompted me for a
> >> password, to connect to my wireless router!
> >
> > Hm, did it have gui front end for startup services or you have to
> > do it lame way or dig into
> > unkown territory of unfnished alpha stage product called upstart?
>
> It's an Alpha and thus it's not ready for "Joe Sixpack". It's for
> testers only. I am one of those testers, so what is your point?
>
Point is there is no gui for daemons.
> Hmmm. why do I have this strange feeling that you are yet another
> Flatfish sock puppet?
C'mon Im not!
Complaints about upstart I hear from experienced unix admins.
>
> ... odd ...
>
No, it's not odd, why on earth ubuntu removed services GUI, which worked
on earlier versions!
It makes some confusion.
Greets!
>Hmmm. why do I have this strange feeling that you are yet another
>Flatfish sock puppet?
>
>... odd ...
I've smelled fish, also.
...queer...
Perhaps because I am unix programmer that currently makes my living of
linux? It is not because I like linux, I would use true unix anytime,
it is because Linux is to UNIX what is Windows to Linux!
> chrisv wrote:
> > Marti van Lin wrote:
> >
> >> Hmmm. why do I have this strange feeling that you are yet another
> >> Flatfish sock puppet?
> >>
> >> ... odd ...
> >
> > I've smelled fish, also.
> >
> I'm afraid your nose smells mighty good. The troll's respond explains
> it all IMO.
>
Well if you consider serious critic trolling , good point for linux
advocacy!
In other words, lets pretend linux is perfect and windows sux.
Emperor new clothes!
Greets!
I think you're a Yoda sock puppet!
--
To alcohol, the cause of and solution to all of life's
problems.
~ Homer J. Simpson
> On 2010-03-12, the following emerged from the brain of Branimir
> Maksimovic:
> > On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:10:21 +0100
> > Marti van Lin <ml2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hmmm. why do I have this strange feeling that you are yet another
> >> Flatfish sock puppet?
> >
> > C'mon Im not!
> > Complaints about upstart I hear from experienced unix admins.
>
> I think you're a Yoda sock puppet!
>
I think you are trolling, actually ;)
There are lot of problems with upstart, illogical things and such.
Sysv init is proven on servers, ok mess up with desktop no problem,
but put that thing on server and no one will use your distribution!
Greets
They need a new gui for the new framework. Apparently the put the
cart before the horse and pushed upstart before all of the little
details were sorted out.
[deletia]
--
Linux: because everyone should get to drink the beer of their |||
choice and not merely be limited to pretensious imports or hard cider. / | \
Absolutely agreed! They pushed product which is not ready yet.
I don;t say upstart it's bad, it is not problem at all (for me).
For average Joe windows it is! If you want to take over windows user
base, don;t rush!
Windows is dead in the water anyway ;)
> On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:20:35 -0600
> chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Marti van Lin wrote:
>>
>>>Hmmm. why do I have this strange feeling that you are yet another
>>>Flatfish sock puppet?
>>>
>>>... odd ...
>>
>> I've smelled fish, also.
>>
>
> Perhaps because I am unix programmer that currently makes my living of
> linux? It is not because I like linux, I would use true unix anytime,
> it is because Linux is to UNIX what is Windows to Linux!
>
>
> Greets
You're in the wrong group.
This is not a Linux advocacy group.
It's a Microsoft hate group and BTW if you point out *any*flaw in
Linux, no matter how small or true, they will ostracize you and
accuse you of being a troll.
Just like they are doing now.
Why compliment him?
____/ Rex Ballard on Friday 12 Mar 2010 16:41 : \____
> On Mar 11, 4:48 pm, Roy Schestowitz <newsgro...@schestowitz.com>
> wrote:
>
> Great review of Lucid Linx snipped.
>
>> > 3. BINGHOO.
>> > A couple of Ubuntu users (including me)
>> > where pretty concerned about the
>> > BingHoo deal. Yet as a matter of fact,
>> > we have been over reacting. The
>> > BingHoo deal is not such a big deal
>> > after all for the end user.
>
> Personally, I think it's great that Microsoft is willing to subsidize
> Linux by paying for preferred status as search engine.
You are missing the point. What Canonical is doing here is /take/ money
away from Mozilla developers (whom Google pays) and pocketing that. The externality here is
Mozilla and Firefox development.
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>
> Personally, I like Linux Mint just because they have a more pragmatic
> policy related to binary-only drivers and proprietary software, which
> can be obtained from Linux Mint.
I just switched to Mandriva One on the desktop, fed up with (x)Ubuntu's
policy on translations. I participate in translating KDE to my native
language - and if unfinished translations are checked in upstream, some
nitwit uses Launchpad/Rosetta to insert some off the wall translations.
That's not so bad. but when we manage to get complete, proofread and quality
controlled translations uploaded, (x)Ubuntu disregards them completely and
insists on using the faulty Launchpad "contributions". I hate it when
totally crazy translations appear - and when I click Help->About I find my
name as translator!
I'm sure that if you only use English, the *buntus may be the best choice.
>chrisv wrote:
>> Marti van Lin wrote:
>>
>>> Hmmm. why do I have this strange feeling that you are yet another
>>> Flatfish sock puppet?
>>>
>>> ... odd ...
>>
>> I've smelled fish, also.
>>
>I'm afraid your nose smells mighty good. The troll's respond explains it
>all IMO.
>
>Yawn
His response to your post here is his most trollish yet. I think he's
starting come unglued. 8)
>Well if you consider serious critic trolling , good point for linux
>advocacy!
>
>In other words, lets pretend linux is perfect and windows sux.
>Emperor new clothes!
How long before we see the meltdown, "Branimir"?
Cmon ;)
Greets
>
> Hmmm. why do I have this strange feeling that you are yet another
> Flatfish sock puppet?
>
> ... odd ...
>
Khollllmann claimed I'm flatfish. You claim BM is. How can this be so,
smarti?
Clearly you don't know Windows 7 well or maybe you just like trash
talking.
Besides, Ubuntu has been doing very well and is gaining popularity. It is
a very decent distribution for desktops, no question about that.
> The problem with Microsoft is, that the racketeers can't stand a single
> bit of competition and from what I've seen so far from the Alpha
> release, Microsoft will have a *huge* problem, starting at April 29 2010
> (the release date of Ubuntu 10.4).
I doubt Windows will have problems selling with any release of GNU/Linux
distributions. But you are correct in saying that Microsoft can't
stand competition, and many businesses are that way --
business is all about competition, growth and beating opponents in the
race to success.
You are using slrn and promote that piece of junk called Windows 7?
There is something badly wrong with that picture.
From your mail user agent headers:
news.motzarella.org; posting-host="eu6SaZi4l7F8k1h0IQmdbQ";
logging-data="5551"; mail-complaints-to="ab...@eternal-september.org";
Oh well, that explains it all.
Buh Bee!
[snip]
This is me:
http://www.facebook.com/branimir.maksimovic
In signature is my home computer , ubuntu 9.10 installed
I don;t know what this flatfish is.
Why? Can he not honestly like Windows 7, yet use GNU/Linux and slrn
specifically at the same time?
I really see nothing wrong with that picture.
--
It's a man's obligation to stick his boneration in a woman's
separation; this sort of penetration will increase the population
of the younger generation.
~ Eric Cartman
>
>
> In signature is my home computer , ubuntu 9.10 installed
> I don;t know what this flatfish is.
> Greets
>
Flatfish is a reasonable poster who owns part of COLA. When "advocates"
can not argue their point reasonably they will call you a liar and claim
you are Flatfish, Hadron, or someone else they fear. They did it to me
and they'll do it do you.
> Branimir Maksimovic wrote:
>
>
>>
>> In signature is my home computer , ubuntu 9.10 installed I don;t know
>> what this flatfish is.
>> Greets
>>
>>
>
> Flatfish is a reasonable poster who owns part of COLA.
Ahah HAHa ahhah HAHH ahHAHA ahahHAHha hah ahah HAh a...
(snip)
--
Rick
> On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 08:27:51 -0800
> Thomas Thordarsen <t.th...@example.org> wrote:
>
>> Marti van Lin wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Hmmm. why do I have this strange feeling that you are yet another
>> > Flatfish sock puppet?
>> >
>> > ... odd ...
>>
>> Khollllmann claimed I'm flatfish. You claim BM is. How can this be
>> so, smarti?
>
> This is me:
> http://www.facebook.com/branimir.maksimovic
>
> In signature is my home computer , ubuntu 9.10 installed
> I don;t know what this flatfish is.
> Greets
Logic is not Tom Turducken's strong suit.
--
Beauty and harmony are as necessary to you as the very breath of life.
> Branimir Maksimovic wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> In signature is my home computer , ubuntu 9.10 installed
>> I don;t know what this flatfish is.
>> Greets
>>
>
>
> Flatfish is a reasonable poster who owns part of COLA.
Thats what you get when thinking that the widiots can't possibly post more
idiotic stuff
Well done. You managed to underperform "The Bee" and "linux-sux" in one
fell swoop
--
Law of Probable Dispersal:
Whatever it is that hits the fan will not be evenly distributed.
> Thomas Thordarsen wrote:
>
>> Branimir Maksimovic wrote:
>>>
>>> In signature is my home computer , ubuntu 9.10 installed
>>> I don;t know what this flatfish is.
>>
>> Flatfish is a reasonable poster who owns part of COLA.
>
> Thats what you get when thinking that the widiots can't possibly post more
> idiotic stuff
>
> Well done. You managed to underperform "The Bee" and "linux-sux" in one
> fell swoop
By that criteria, then, we *all* "own" part of COLA.
Take ownership! Stake your claim! :-D
--
Avert misunderstanding by calm, poise, and balance.
That is correct!
That's because they are afraid of Hadron, Zeke, Black Dragon, DFS,
Amicus, cc, Clog and a few more.
Not us personally, but the work we do exposing their lies.
They still can't discern the difference between disliking Linux
and disliking LIEing LIEnux advocates.
The worst of the genre is LIEnux advocate who uses this group, or
other groups, for his own personal gain.
That IMHO is the lowest of the low.
A real bottom feeder.
I dunno. A slrn user liking Win7 does seem a bit weird.
>
> I really see nothing wrong with that picture.
>
--
The best OS in the world is ultimately useless |||
if it is controlled by a Tramiel, Jobs or Gates. / | \
> On 2010-03-14, TomB <tommy.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 2010-03-13, the following emerged from the brain of Marti van Lin:
>>> Ruel Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Clearly you don't know Windows 7 well or maybe you just like trash
>>>> talking.
>>>
>>> You are using slrn and promote that piece of junk called Windows 7?
>>> There is something badly wrong with that picture.
>>
>> Why? Can he not honestly like Windows 7, yet use GNU/Linux and slrn
>> specifically at the same time?
>
> I dunno. A slrn user liking Win7 does seem a bit weird.
It's available for Windows you moron. As is most of the best OSS:
That still doesn't alter it's basic essential nature.
MORON.
--
iTunes is not progressive. It's a throwback. |||
/ | \
> On 2010-03-14, Hadron <hadro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> JEDIDIAH <je...@nomad.mishnet> writes:
>>
>>> On 2010-03-14, TomB <tommy.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2010-03-13, the following emerged from the brain of Marti van Lin:
>>>>> Ruel Smith wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Clearly you don't know Windows 7 well or maybe you just like trash
>>>>>> talking.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are using slrn and promote that piece of junk called Windows 7?
>>>>> There is something badly wrong with that picture.
>>>>
>>>> Why? Can he not honestly like Windows 7, yet use GNU/Linux and slrn
>>>> specifically at the same time?
>>>
>>> I dunno. A slrn user liking Win7 does seem a bit weird.
>>
>> It's available for Windows you moron. As is most of the best OSS:
>
> That still doesn't alter it's basic essential nature.
>
> MORON.
Nice sig. Now what the hell are you talking about? I use a gnome desktop
but still use emacs and gnus as do many on Windows. WTF are you talking
about? Many people use things like mutt and slrn and gnus on Windows.
Is this empty list of the "best OSS" a "Hadronic" slip?
Anyway, the easiest path to something like slrn is Linux or BSD, not
the Windows desktop. That way leads more toward nagware. Or, it used to,
since the "best OSS" gets back-ported to Windows, it seems, so that it is
easier to find Free software, as opposed to free software.
--
All say, "How hard it is that we have to die"--a strange complaint to come from
the mouths of people who have had to live.
-- Mark Twain, "Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar"
> Hadron quacked:
>>
>> JEDIDIAH <je...@nomad.mishnet> writes:
>>>
>>> I dunno. A slrn user liking Win7 does seem a bit weird.
>>
>> It's available for Windows you moron. As is most of the best OSS:
>
> That still doesn't alter it's basic essential nature.
>
> MORON.
It's funny how the POS calls you a "moron", when *he* is the one who
is so God-damned stupid to assume that you did not know that slrn was
available for Windows. *He* was the one too God-damned stupid to
understand your point.
chrisv is a liar. chrisv is a useless fsckwit asshole.
Mutt? On Windows? Come again?
--
You ever notice how all the prices end in nine?
Damn, that's eerie...
~ Dante Hicks
> On 2010-03-16, the following emerged from the brain of Hadron:
>> Nice sig. Now what the hell are you talking about? I use a gnome desktop
>> but still use emacs and gnus as do many on Windows. WTF are you talking
>> about? Many people use things like mutt and slrn and gnus on Windows.
>
> Mutt? On Windows? Come again?
Doable.
Say, I thought "Hadron" said he used "xmonad" or "awesome" (can't remember
which) as a desktop, and now he's using Gnome?
--
You will be a winner today. Pick a fight with a four-year-old.
You will be a winner today. Pick a fight with a troll.
I ran it under cygwin for a while, but it was to slow to be workable.
And AFAIK there's no 'proper' Windows port of mutt.
> Say, I thought "Hadron" said he used "xmonad" or "awesome" (can't remember
> which) as a desktop, and now he's using Gnome?
He claimed he was using xmonad. Claimed.
--
You just fulfilled the first rule of law enforcement: make sure when
your shift is over you go home alive. Here endeth the lesson.
~ Malone, The Untouchables
> Say, I thought "Hadron" said he used "xmonad" or "awesome" (can't remember
> which) as a desktop, and now he's using Gnome?
Different day, different lie, same liar. The biggest lie is that Quirk
uses linux. All other lies emanate from that charade.
--
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