Ghost Hunters on Sci-Fi Channel

Stefani · Post by **Stefani** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:31 am

Just read that the Lizzie Borden B&B episode is going to air on October 12th.

23. Shawshank Prison/ Lizzie Borden
Guest star:
The TAPS gang tackle two famous locations in this hour. The prison made famous by Stephen King' s novella "Rita Hayworth and the Shawshank Redemption", and the site of the infamous axe murder of Lizzie Borden's parents.

http://www.scifi.com/ghosthunters/

cool!

Susan · Post by **Susan** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:00 am

Thanks for the heads-up, Stefani. Its set to TiVo at my fiance's, but, will have to wait until we are back from our vacation to see it!

snokkums · Post by **snokkums** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 11:33 am

Great! Thanks for the info Stefani.

snokkums · Post by **snokkums** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 5:31 am

I also have it marked on my calender so I don't miss it!!

Stefani · Post by **Stefani** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:49 am

There is a news article about the GhostHunters at this link:

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercuryn ... 845705.htm

Kat · Post by **Kat** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 6:24 pm

I went there and they want me to sign up.
Ooops.

Bob Gutowski · Post by **Bob Gutowski** » Wed Oct 12, 2005 9:44 am

Orbs! Keep an eye peeled for orbs!

It's on twice tonight, you know. EST, it's on at 9, and again at midnight (oooh!).

So there's NO EXCUSE if you miss it.

Haulover · Post by **Haulover** » Wed Oct 12, 2005 9:46 pm

personally, i would not have parked in the attic. i would have concentrated on the sitting room. but that's me. maybe they were acting on a tip. i predicted they would focus on the attic or the cellar.

i did realize from my one visit that once is not enough. you'd have to be there long enough to understand what was constant as opposed to changeable.

Stefani · Post by **Stefani** » Wed Oct 12, 2005 9:58 pm

I was really disappointed that the hour long show only devoted a scant 15 or 17 minutes to the house. I realize they had to condense their visit but they were really in and out there! Fast food Lizzie!

I predicted to Kat that they wouldn't find anything there. Those guys mostly debunk places anyway. I would rather see the Most Haunted crew there. Those British guys really know how to scare you even if they don't find anything. I don't really enjoy a ghost show that doesn't make me feel scared. Seems like a waste.

I was surprised they didn't interview Lee-ann more. When we were there, she had TONS of current stories about strange things that have personally happened to her. The Eleanor story about the mist dates way back on the Amazing Mysteries episode in 2001. Lee-ann told us some really eerie tales of that rocker in Bridget's room moving across the floor!

It wasn't enough.

Haulover · Post by **Haulover** » Wed Oct 12, 2005 10:08 pm

no, there wasn't enough effort.

Elizabelle · Post by **Elizabelle** » Wed Oct 12, 2005 10:12 pm

Not too impressive. It was about 8:40 before they began the segment on Lizzie, with two commercial breaks.

I think an entire hour-long episode should be devoted to it. That would be a worthwhile show! :)

Stefani · Post by **Stefani** » Wed Oct 12, 2005 10:19 pm

Here's a link to the Ghost Hunters Forum. They have some Lizzie enthusiasts there it seems who have some theories!

http://mboard.scifi.com/showflat.php?Ca ... t=all&vc=1

Then this image:

Harry · Post by **Harry** » Wed Oct 12, 2005 10:43 pm

I agree with Eugene, the effort simply wasn't there. They didn't strike me as being all that serious. If I was a ghost I don't think I would have revealed myself to them.

I think Lee-ann hit it on the head when at the end she said (hope this is close) "they aren't under contract to the B&B to appear at certain times."

keim · Post by **keim** » Wed Oct 12, 2005 11:45 pm

While I enjoy "Most Haunted" for it's spookiness factor, it is very hard to take seriously a bunch of hysterical people who scream and run away from every noise they hear.
At least the TAPS people have come up with some very interesting recorded phenomena in some of their investigations.

If nothing happened, nothing happened. It wouldn't matter how long the segment was. And while I am very skeptical about the supernatural, I was still disappointed that they didn't find anything that could have been considered ghostly, even if it could be explained later.

It is always fun to see Ed, and Eleanor on TV! And it was nice to finally see LeeAnn. AND the house looks fantastic now that they removed that eyesore Leary Press!

Whether TAPS found anything or not, people will believe what they want to believe, and they will visit whether they believe it's haunted or not.

Kat · Post by **Kat** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 2:09 am

They did admit to thinking the mystery was as interesting as any haunting.
Sounds like converts!

I only got sound, my picture was scrambled.
The noise they got upstairs in the attic was interesting. No one equated it with Abby's body falling which I thought they might do.
In the car on the way there, the young lady spoke up about the rhyme and corrected the number of whacks from 40 and 41 to 9 and 11.

Since the House admits to more stuff going on in the attic, and something was heard in the attic, I'd think there might possibly be a link.

Was Ben supposed to be in this?

Angel · Post by **Angel** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:43 am

Well, I, for one, am glad I didn't miss anything. I had been looking forward to watching the show for quite a while, so last night I sat down with my cat on my lap and a glass of chablis in my hand, all ready to enjoy myself, and I turned on the TV, only to find out that the cable was out. I was furious!

Bob Gutowski · Post by **Bob Gutowski** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:56 am

If it weren't for seeing the House, Lee Ann, and the Thibaults (and how do they like their name pronounced, please, someone who's met them?), and the fact that I thought some of the ghost hunter guys were pretty cute, it would've been a total yawn. How come Eleanor didn't get to tell about being touched from behind as she crossed in front of the siiting room sofa, as she did on that other show? And I'm tired of programs on the Bordens that don't make the distinction that the sofa that's currently in the sitting room is not THE sofa.

And, did they ever show a photo of Lizzie herself for any amount of time? I don't remember it! At least they didn't chop into an untethered cantaloupe.

Kat · Post by **Kat** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 11:27 pm

I think it's Tee-Bo.
I've only recently met Eleanor.

As I said, I had no picture- rather snow and flipping.
I think Ben got "cut?" Or am I thinking of another program?

Angel, you and electronics!!

Haulover · Post by **Haulover** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 11:32 pm

i've never met them, but i guessed tee-bo.

and i believe he said he was interviewed.

Angel · Post by **Angel** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 7:26 am

Kat, how did you know?
My son calls me "electronically "illiterate."

keim · Post by **keim** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:35 pm

I believe they cut in a few montage overlays which showed the portrait of Lizzie which they have hanging in Lizzie's bedroom.

Based on my evening with Eleanor, and Ed, they have several more stories of their personal ghostly experiences in the house, which they didn't have the opportunity to tell. They added a dimension to our stay which made it much more memorable and fun!

Lee-ann · Post by **Lee-ann** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:44 pm

I was'nt quite sure what to expect from the show. It actually came out better than I thought it would.
They (TAPS) were only here for a few hours, 2 hours of interviews and 3 hours of investigating.
I was a bit ammused to see one of the investigators sitting on the floor in the Knowlton room asking if anyone died up there.

Kat · Post by **Kat** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 2:14 am

I heard today from talking to a member, that tho the show was a disappointment, in that things seemed to be dismissed out-of-hand- you, Lee-ann came off beautifully!
You had a quiet dignity.
I'm still trying to figure out how much of that is you and how much of that is you being Lizzie.

Caesar · Post by **Caesar** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 8:20 am

I didn't watch the show because those types of shows are not for me. I don't think the haunting at the Borden house is the type you would find in three hours of investigating if you do, you are very lucky. I belive you would have to spend weeks there almost kinda live there to encounter anything paranormal.

bsr88 · Post by **bsr88** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 12:09 pm

It was interesting when they said "I think any place that has a gift shop is not haunted". I almost spit-up my diet coke...

They wanted me there for my interview in the early evening, and I had to work at 5. Their stage manager told me that they were running late, and said that it would probably happen around 7 or so. So I called work and told them I'd be in late and got a whole bunch of people to change their scedules for me at work. At 7pm she told me that My interview "wasn't going to happen, sorry". So I left storming mad and went to work.

My Dad and Lee-ann were talking with the crew and later arranged my interview for midnight. So I drove another hour-and-a-half up there in the dark and had my midnight interview. I guess I wasn't good enough.

They neglected to talk about the several high gauss meter spikes they had (I talked to them after and they told me they had several spikes of 6 and 7's and found no natural reason for them), and also neglected to say how at one particular moment, all the cameras in the house all died at the same time. I know this because during my interview, the camera died, and we walked into the sitting room and Jay and Grant told us their cameras just died that moment as well.

Oh well, I've been filmed for 3 shows now, the next to air is hopefully Scariest Places On Earth. Take care

Ben

Kat · Post by **Kat** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:19 pm

Thanks for the behind-the-scenes report Ben!!

Susan · Post by **Susan** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:45 pm

I watched the show on Sunday night, FINALLY, and was a little let down by the investigation, especially explaining that crash away as the air conditioner? To me it sounded like a window falling shut or as Kat suggested, could possibly have been the sound that was heard when Abby fell?

Though short, it was fantastic to see the interior of the house yet again and the Thibaults. And Lee Ann was just the perfect hostess, so calm and assured, even despite the ghost hunters negative findings. Too bad about Ben's interview not making the cut, I would have liked to have seen it.

We had visited the Winchester Mystery House on the way back from San Francisco and were told that the TAPS team had been there and found nothing supernatural. They had psychic Silvia Browne there in the past and she said that the house was definitely haunted, I don't recall the exact number, but, she said that there were quite a few. When we got back from our trip I saw the TAPS show on the Winchester house, pretty neat after just being there.

Harry · Post by **Harry** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:59 am

There is a TAPS marathon running all day today on the SciFi channel. The Borden episode will be on at 8pm Eastern time and the Winchester house at 7pm.

BYOP. ie:bring your own popcorn.

snokkums · Post by **snokkums** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 4:04 pm

Stefani @ Wed Oct 12, 2005 9:58 pm wrote:I was really disappointed that the hour long show only devoted a scant 15 or 17 minutes to the house. I realize they had to condense their visit but they were really in and out there! Fast food Lizzie!

I predicted to Kat that they wouldn't find anything there. Those guys mostly debunk places anyway. I would rather see the Most Haunted crew there. Those British guys really know how to scare you even if they don't find anything. I don't really enjoy a ghost show that doesn't make me feel scared. Seems like a waste.

I was surprised they didn't interview Lee-ann more. When we were there, she had TONS of current stories about strange things that have personally happened to her. The Eleanor story about the mist dates way back on the Amazing Mysteries episode in 2001. Lee-ann told us some really eerie tales of that rocker in Bridget's room moving across the floor!

It wasn't enough.

I agree!! It wasn't enough. I think they should have had a full hour or at least 30 minutes for Lizzie. She deserves that even if she did axe her parents to death.

Societygirl1892 · Post by **Societygirl1892** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:59 pm

I finally saw the episode tonight featuring the Borden house.
I wasn't really sruprised that they didn't show more because the house isn't really all that big. I did think they would show more of the guest room, and the sitting room, and possibly the cellar, or at least use those rooms as their focal points.
They are a skeptical bunch and they do admit that they are the first to want to debunk any paranormal activity but will acknowledge it if they find it. Just because nothing showed up on their visit doesn't mean it isn't there. And they say that at pretty much all their investigations. They are to find logical explanations if they are there, and if not, then there you go-and if they can capture it-then great. They have caught some great stuff in the past. Like they say, if you find something on your film, audio or video, send a copy and they want to see it and keep investigating. They're still open to it and I think that's great.
I've been to the house and have had experiences and so have countless others. I don't think we needed TAPS to go on their show and say yes the house is haunted for any of us to believe who have had experiences. But like they said, people do come there with expectations and are let down when they don't see things. Not everybody experiences things, and even though I'm glad I've had experiences in the house, there's one in particular I could have done without. And that one experience, I'm not even sure it was Borden related-there is other history related to the house.
I still think it's cool that the house was featured, I'm sure the house will get publicity and that's good for business. I'm always happy to see anything on Lizzie or the house.

Kat · Post by **Kat** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 11:41 pm

HI PAM!!

Yes the cellar! They missed the cellar- good point!

(Er- I think they skipped the cellar- I only really had sound- no picture)

snokkums · Post by **snokkums** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 3:50 am

And you are right, just because they didn't find anything doesn't mean it isn't there. Lee-Ann did say they didn't have the ghost under contract.

Angel · Post by **Angel** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:20 am

I saw it last evening too, and I couldn't believe it. I know they are skeptical going into every place they check out, but, to me, it seemed like they went in unusually biased, as if they had made their minds up before they even got there. They usually give more of a background history on other places, but the watchers who didn't know all that much about the case would have gotten practically no information from what they said. They skimmed through the house so fast that one could not get a feeling for it. They spent so little time investigating that I'm surprised they even bothered to go there in the first place. And the comments about "the gift shop" or the gullible guests' preconceived ideas made it obvious that they were practically scoffing about the whole scene. They gave LeeAnn very little time. I think she was unusually polite under the circumstances. I give her much credit. I was very disappointed in them.

augusta · Post by **augusta** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:02 am

I was so looking forward to seeing this, and then it ended up being lousy. I think any tape of the house is interesting, so I will keep the tape. This is true: they don't spend enough time in a place - especially here.

Lee-ann was very professional and cordial and made a good impression. The photos she showed the TAPS people of those "mists" were great, and they hardly commented on them.

The sound on the 3rd floor sounded like someone picked up a box and dropped it on the floor. Isn't the 3rd floor the place that has most of the activity? If so, I wonder why?

After Lizzie's trial, the 'girls' continued to rent out the house. One guy was found starved to death in the house.

I think the TAPS team needs a reputable psychic to take along to places. They could sort of bridge the gap - summon the spirits out and maybe some activity would then occur that the TAPS team could record.

There is a guy who is fabulous. His name is George Anderson. I've seen him on tv shows and read a book of his. It would be great to get him in there.

It takes energy to cause the activity. They have a good idea with their scientific equipment, and I hope they continue their work. But they need someone in their group that is sensitive and can make that energy appear - not just a group of 4 or 5 people who are making jokes, not believing, or even having an "open mind" about it. They first have to believe and either learn how to summon spirits or bring along someone who can.

If I were Lee-ann, I would let some cassette recorders just record when nobody was in the house and see if you got anything on it. She could probably put her own video together by interviewing people who have had experiences in the house. Martha McGinn knew the house was haunted. She had lots of stories to tell.

I don't believe that house is not not haunted.

Someone should do Maplecroft, too. Lizzie would probably be hanging around there. And the Taunton mental hospital, too - the old part.

So the cameras all went out at the same time? I don't think they even mentioned that, and that is a sign of paranormal activity. But it could also be a coincidental fuse blowing, TAPS probably figured.

Yes, they did seem to have their minds made up before they went in there. Nothing will come thru if everyone is skeptical. Maybe that's been their problem. All their shows are starting to look the same now.

Yeah, the Lizzie show should have been a one-hour piece. It's hard to believe they had the chance to do the Borden murder house and came up with nothing! Maybe that box dropping sound was a spirit telling them to just go. [/u]

Kat · Post by **Kat** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:29 am

This is common for people to think the man starved in #92, but it was the Ferry Street house.
Some headlines from Rebello, pg. 31:

"Oilcloth Shroud / Death Amid Squalor and Dire Destitution / Old Couple in An Attic / It is The Andrew Borden Homestead / Neighbors Sent in Food / Death Probably from Exposure," Fall River Daily Herald, December 28, 1893: 8.

"Starved to Death / A Distressing Case on Ferry Street / Victim a Man Who Once Owned a Fortune / His Wife, Who Appears Crazed, Claims to be the Heir to An Estate in New York," Fall River Evening News, December 28, 1893: 8.

It's true a LOT of people lived at #92 over the years and maybe some perceived activity is possibly due to them?

Caesar · Post by **Caesar** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 5:25 am

I think for one they should spend more time in these locations and have on haunted place per show and sec I don't think its good policy to try and disprove everything. thats one thing I disagree with TAPS with. I think if you go in an investigation with that mind set you'll miss your setting, your mindset will lead the investigation and not the facts. I think investigators should go in neutral and let the facts tell you if its haunted or not. the haunted house I lived in, we had no idea it was haunted till about two weeks later.however my mother believe it was haunted the first day. she seems sensitive to ghosts.

As far as what Ben was saying with the meter spikes it sounds like an EMF detector there could be many things that could cause this. everything from Solar Flares to the compressor in your refrigerator. yeah I believe they should have shown that.

Augusta, its funny you mentioned the Taunton mental hospital. I know lots of people in the Taunton/ Dighton area that believe its haunted. I made a post about this place on a ghost site that I'm a staff member at.

Heres a link you might like. I found this while I was researching it.
http://www.masscrossroads.com/bristoltaunton

like its sister Kirkbridge design asylums (Worcester and Danvers Asylums)the State Lunatic Asylum In Taunton had its share of hauntings threw the years. records indicate that many of the first patients were admitted for such issues as "religious excitement," and "loss of friends" In one case, a patient was officially described as having a "loss of interest in housework."

Kat · Post by **Kat** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 5:41 pm

Nowadays they would go to a spa.

Thanks for the info and the link!
Very good picture! Interesting stuff!

Do you wish to provide the link to your ghost site with which you are affiliated?

Societygirl1892 · Post by **Societygirl1892** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:23 pm

Hi, Kat!
I wish they had spent more time in the house too, and like I said, paid more attention to the guest room, sitting room and basement. I do think also that they were too quick to disperse with what the noise was on the third floor, but they're like that everywhere.
The Scariest Places on Earth airs tonight, so I'm looking forward to that.
Pammie

Caesar · Post by **Caesar** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 11:10 am

Kat @ Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:41 pm wrote:Nowadays they would go to a spa.

Thanks for the info and the link!
Very good picture! Interesting stuff!

Do you wish to provide the link to your ghost site with which you are affiliated?

sure I was gonna put it in my siggy but I didn't want you guy's to think I joined just to advertise. I'll give you the link to the Lizzie Borden thread. and you can navigate your way around from there.

The name of the site is Ghostudy
http://www.paranormalsoup.com/forums/in ... =6057&st=0

Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, I'm working on a ghost site of my own and learning java, bb coding and using a ftp program can give you headacks. the owner of Ghostudy actually went to the Lizzie Borden house.

theebmonique · Post by **theebmonique** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 12:23 pm

Some interesting things at the ghoststudy site. I did see some references to our own beloved LBVML.

I have never heard before that there is a year and a half wait to book a night at the B&B. The times I have stayed, I pretty much got whatever night/room I wanted and only called a moth or so ahead of time. I would imagine that significant dates can be a bit tricky to get, but not impossible.

Tracy..

Harry · Post by **Harry** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:42 am

The Ghost Hunters TV show covering the TAPS visit to the B&B will be repeated tonight on the SciFi channel at 8pm eastern. The one hour show also covers the Shawshank prison.

Lizzie and the Bordens weren't at home the night they visited.

nbcatlover · Post by **nbcatlover** » Sun May 07, 2006 4:17 pm

Finally got to see the "Lizzie" episode of Ghost Hunters today. Boy, was I disappointed in TAPS. I felt they went in with a bad attitude and it showed throughout the episode. Very disappointing.

Harry · Post by **Harry** » Sun May 07, 2006 7:17 pm

I think most of us felt the same way. They didn't seem to take their own investigation serious. It was good to see Lee-ann though.

dasdeeboot · Post by **dasdeeboot** » Fri May 26, 2006 8:58 pm

I was very unhappy with the way taps said "any place with a gift shop isnt haunted" I dont think thats a very scientific way of thinking

Kat · Post by **Kat** » Sat May 27, 2006 2:56 am

Hi!

I still haven't seen that show! I don't get the channel!

dasdeeboot · Post by **dasdeeboot** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 6:43 pm

http://video.scifi.com/player.html?dlid=3335

interesting that they (TAPS) cut this....

also is this picture real?

dasdeeboot · Post by **dasdeeboot** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:16 pm

no takers? :)

Kat · Post by **Kat** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:13 am

I've seen this before, but what is it? The link doesn't work for me- so what is the question? Sorry...

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