Reply #28: Your law is very impressive but they've found a "work around." [View All]

I read the law as part of my research. It's quite detailed and thoughtful. It looks like you've got mostly optical scans down there, which are not my preference, but they're a whole lot better than touch screens. They have real ballots. The rub is how to get a recount. Your law has a 1% provision, I think, which is better than my state at 0.25% (Jefferson weeps). The recount process has the sample first. I wondered who picks the precincts "randomly." Need to read it again. But you do have those receipts, paper ballot trail.

NOW, here's what the great NC activists can think about. Maybe two things (and it's easier for me to give advice than it is to act, I can assure you;):

1) The 8th and 12th numbers indicate a real "integrity" problem exists - the 16% in the 8th and 10% in the 12th are way out of line...so, that means there needs to be an integrity audit - are those machines really working. In NM, Lowell Finley and Voter Action sued to assure "future right" in elections and won! NM Lawsuit Delves into Voting Machines.

The response to this will be, "Well it's not allowed" etc. etc. The point here is that these numbers are an outrage, they clearly denied Kissell his seat. 3199 undervotes according to the Mecklenburg Co. Board site - winning 68-32% in those areas - reduce that 3199 to 579 (3$ undervote) and Kissell is in like flint. They say, well we can't overturn an election...OK, then lets make sure the future elections work.

2) Maybe Kissels camp or the Democrats can insist that those paper ballots get recounted, entirely, when Congress requests them. No investigation of Jennings can now be conducted without examining Mecklenburg, particularly the 8th. It should be interesting.

Someone suggested, "You can't legislate morality" which mean no Civil Rights laws, it was a code word. Ironically, any system you set up can be gamed.

Even if there had been all touch screens or all hand counted paper ballots, my preference, there would be the recount laws. They get you coming, they get you going;) Definition of a lawyer: someone who stands in between two parties and takes money from both (sorry lawyers, I love you, but you know that this is true).

Keep it up in NC. The principle has been established. I always think it's good to make the point that the only reason we need "election integrity" is to stop election fraud.

Cheers!

PS. Do you know who advised Kissell to concede. That's even worse that the advice Francine Busby got on election night in CA's 50th in the special election - when 40,000 votes were uncounted.