Registered: Sep 2002
Location: PA
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My year old '02 is doing the same thing. It just started recently and it drove me crazy since I couldn't replicate it. I think it only happens on my Ody when I'm parked for a long time and then pull forward - the first time I touch the brakes I hear a distinct *click* as if gears were engaging. If I read the previous posts correctly, this is something I should just ignore.

Is there any way to find out about these "normal" oddities before they start happening?

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My year old '02 is doing the same thing. It just started recently and it drove me crazy since I couldn't replicate it. I think it only happens on my Ody when I'm parked for a long time and then pull forward - the first time I touch the brakes I hear a distinct *click* as if gears were engaging. If I read the previous posts correctly, this is something I should just ignore.

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Registered: Apr 2003
Location: Clearwater, Florida
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My '02 also started making the popping noise. I think it is the Disk Brake Calipers clicking on the anchor pins. When stopping and applying brakes moving forward,the assembly moves forward against the pins. When I back out of the garage and apply the brakes, they move in the opposite direction and click. No problem. There has to be some play so the caliper will"float". This assures that equal pad pressure is applied to both sides of the disk. The Van has 11,600 miles. --JOMO5

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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: bay area
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I have the same symptons that everybody mentioned. Popping noise when backing up and going forwad. The noise is coming from front and rear brakes. It's mostly noticeable after the van is sitting overnight or a few hours and the cool temperature. It doesn't happen on warm to hot temperature.

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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Tulsa, OK
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Why did mine just start making the noise at 14K plus miles???

Why have my folks' many Fords, my one nissan, and my four toyota's NOT had this noise???

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Location: Houston, TX
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I can't say why other vehicles don't do it, but I can say with certainty that it's a common characteristic of Ody's with rear disc brakes. I've had an '02 and an '03 and they both did it, and judging from these postings, many many others do it as well.

I believe it's the brake pads, not the entire caliper assembly, sliding against a stop when you first hit the brakes after having applied them to stop in the other direction. Whatever the case, it's not going to hurt anything, so save your worries.

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Parking Brakes

I have read thru all of the posts on this subject and although I dont own a Ody,(YET) - it on order. I think I can help .I deal with Ody's on a regular basis , and I do own A 97 Accord , and 97 Passport .

I read on one post that said when you released the parking brake . I'm curious as to why your using the parking brake all the time , if you park on a incline or something thats understandable . But realize that you will hear strange noises when you release a cable thats holding a 3-4000 lb piece of metal , Like a grunt sound .

As for Disc Brakes , I'm sure most of you have had OTHER vehicles that after a brake job , a month down the road you hear awful squeaking . That by far is worse than any click you'll ever hear .

I have worked at Chevy ,Ford , Honda , and Toyota dealerships before taking my current job , and now on the side I have my own Shadetree garage if ya wanna call it that , where I help out friends or aquantiences fix their own cars , I only supervise them , where obviously , they dont mess up there vehicles.

Most of you have started hearing this at between 10 -15,000 miles . Judging from my experience this is just a case of the lube that Honda uses is drying out and becoming ineffective. What I suggest doing is since you should be rotating your tires every 10-15,000 miles is too have your mechanic simply use the sil- glide or whatever substance he prefers to use and re - lube them .
I prefer to use simple axle grease , I put a thin coat on the backside of the pads , and put some on any other moving part in the caliper area , such as the pin that holds the pads .

All mechanics have their own ideas , and this is simply mine .
never had any complaints after I've done this . The post that suggested using a plastic shim , that was simply bogus . I have heard of placing Metal shims behind the pads , but this should only be done when the Manufacturer specifically requests this .


Again these suggestions are IMO , Dirtracr29

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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Houston, TX
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The noise occurs thusly:

Backing up, you hit the brakes. The pads grip the rotating disc, and move all the way against their stop within the caliper. You now change direction, going forward, then hit the brakes again. The pads, now at one extreme end of the range of slack, grip the disc, which is now moving in the opposite direction, and slide quickly and sharply against the opposite stop, creating the click.

No amount of lubrication can stop this noise. It would take a special shim to remove the excess slack between the caliper rails and the pads themselves.

My advice; fuggedaboudit. It won't hurt a thing.

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The noise occurs thusly:

Backing up, you hit the brakes. The pads grip the rotating disc, and move all the way against their stop within the caliper. You now change direction, going forward, then hit the brakes again. The pads, now at one extreme end of the range of slack, grip the disc, which is now moving in the opposite direction, and slide quickly and sharply against the opposite stop, creating the click.

No amount of lubrication can stop this noise. It would take a special shim to remove the excess slack between the caliper rails and the pads themselves.

My advice; fuggedaboudit. It won't hurt a thing.

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Location: Houston, TX
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Mine only clicks with direction changes. The only explanation I can come up with for yours is that there are shims on the caliper rails that the brake pads ride on. If these shims are acting as springs, pushing the pads away from the rails after each application, then possibly that would lead to a click as you describe. But this is a wild guess on my part.

I think you should have them checked by the dealer, and make sure he understands the symptoms. He may quickly dismiss it as the typical change in direction click, like I did. Sorry! It may still be benign, though.

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Mine only clicks with direction changes. The only explanation I can come up with for yours is that there are shims on the caliper rails that the brake pads ride on. If these shims are acting as springs, pushing the pads away from the rails after each application, then possibly that would lead to a click as you describe. But this is a wild guess on my part.

I think you should have them checked by the dealer, and make sure he understands the symptoms. He may quickly dismiss it as the typical change in direction click, like I did. Sorry! It may still be benign, though.

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I have a 03 ody and was very disappointed to hear the noise. The sound does have a defective ring to it. I find it hard to believe that the top rated minivan with a company like Honda can't come up with a solution to this problem. I had a Porsche with rear disk brakes and a BMW with rear disk brakes and those two did not exhibit this type of behavior. I find it a little embarrassing when Valet brings my car around and as the brakes are applied it sounds like gun fire. I have great difficulty with companies that say if it doesn't "hurt" anything it must be okay. Well it is not okay. Do something right the first time or move heaven and earth to fix it after your done.

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Registered: Apr 2003
Location: Clearwater, Florida
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WOW!! Like Gunfire???? I have an "02 and the sound is a "Click' and not disturbing to me. I know what it is and it's the only discrepancie on this wonderful Auto. --Jomo5

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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Tampa, FL
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Yes, I've got a 2003 Odyssey that now has about 2500 miles on it. Everytime I back out of the garage I hear a clicking noise. I also hear the noise for the first few miles I drive in the morning and whenever I just begin to drive the car. I've been worried about this and am going to mention it when I have my 3500 oil change and system check. I'm relieved to hear that most likely this is a normal thing for this model. Have they fixed it for the 2004's??

Sandy M

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Well after 15,000 miles my brakes started clicking, clacking and clunking and oh yeah, popping. Now at 19,500 on my 2003 Ody, I was irritated enough to take matters into my own hands and,armed with my new Helms manual, took the @#%! rear brakes apart to fix it for once and for all. I found exactly what I expected in that the pads were never lubed in all the spots they were supposed to be lubed to the point that the contact areas were bright and shiny metal from the rubbing. The few areas that had lube looked like there was never enough put there to begin with and the lube was dry and caked up. Also, the Helms manual I thought was vague about where the Molykote 77 was supposed to be placed. The brakes are now quiet as a church mouse and I expect them to remain that way because these brakes are not anything unique nor special and I've done enough of my own brake jobs on Hondas and others to know and feel confident about it.

After reading all the threads about this subject I was amazed that no one seemed to want to get in there and just tear the darned thing apart to see what was cooking! Is it a charateristic of Odys to have popping brakes? Maybe so if the idiots at the factory doesn't lube them properly.

Why didn't I just take my van to the dealer and complain and hope they'd fix it? I'd already seem the disclaimer taped to a service advisors desk stating that this is a normal condition and to tell all customers that.

Why didn't I just grin and bear it and pretend the noise wasn't there? Because it's not "normal" and should not be tolerated especially after one pays 30thou + for a vehicle. Actually I wouldn't tolerate it in a used car!

The whole job took about 20 minutes per side and was a real cinch.If you don't feel like you want to tackle the job then I would take the van to the dealer and tell them to do it. Either way, just do it and get on with life.

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