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Team Media Tool Trunk – WASTE OF MONEY

May 23, 2009

Update: Looks like the TEAM Media Tool Trunks have been reduced in price. The Media Warrior 2000 is now selling for $1,684.90 and the Media Warrior 1000 now goes for $859.70.

Team Media Warrior 2000 Trunk Image

I came across this great comment from Candace on Lazy Man’s blog post about MonaVie.

She writes about two “incredible” tool trunks available from the TEAM web site, the TL147 – Tool Media Warrior Trunk 2000 and the TL146 – Tool Media Trunk 1000. The prices on these ultimate TEAM Tools are $2000 and $1000 respectively. Seeing that old Amway tools sell for pennies on the dollar on eBay, I was compelled to do a price comparison of these tool chests. The numbers in the spreadsheet below are calculated using the TEAM member prices, not the retail prices. Click the image below to see the spreadsheet full-size1:

team-media-trunk-comp

Now, usually, if I were to buy a compilation of tools, I would expect the compilation to be cheaper not more expensive. Orrin Woodward and his TEAM Leaders have once again succeeded at showing greed has no limits. Buy the tools individually2 over the trunks, and you will SAVE $109.90 and $23.70 respectively!

But wait, don’t you get to keep the wonderful trunks so prominently displayed on the TEAM shopping site? No, read the fine print:

* Trunk not included

I bet Woodward is using the trunks to hold all the money he’s taking from distributors who don’t take the time to calculate the cost of purchasing the tools individually.

What do you get for purchasing this “powerful” tool set? Purchasers will “receive a free decal for their car and a matching tee shirt to be worn with pride.” Yup, buying this set means all of your fellow MonaVie Teammates will know you were the fool for buying an overpriced tool trunk.

Here are links to screenshots of the tools trunks from TEAM’s web site, as of May 24, 2009:


1 I could not find the price of the Success Magazine (Team Version) product, so estimated the cost as $2.25. Prices are effective according to TEAM’s web site as of May 23, 2009.

2 I omitted the fact that a large percentage of these tools are brochures or audio files, items that can be easily converted into lower-cost (or even freely) downloadable MP3s or PDFs.

22 Comments leave one →
  1. Irv permalink
    May 23, 2009 5:40 pm

    Oh snaps! Brilliant! Maybe the extra cost is for the symbiosis of those 19 pamphlets, DVDs, and magazines acting in concert — just like the 19 toxic fruit syrups in Monavie.

    …and they don’t even give you the trunk…that’s like being screwed without getting kissed!

    It was aptly named “Tool Trunk” — only a “tool” would buy it.

  2. mike permalink
    May 24, 2009 1:01 am

    It amazes me how anyone can buy into this insanity.

    I think before I go on a major rant on the complete stupid behavior of many folks that will actually buy this.

    Amthrax, you have made up stuff in a means to point out the folly of those involved in Amway and Monavie, so this trunk you speak of…is it a joke or is it real?

  3. May 24, 2009 8:35 am

    Mike – Click on the links in my post, and you can see the trunks for yourself for sale on the TEAM website. If they take the pages down, I have taken screenshots from the site this morning.

  4. Frank D permalink
    May 24, 2009 9:31 pm

    mike, believe it. Team customers get zero breaks when they buy materials in bulk. They actually pay more for bundles for the privilege of having the tools bundled. So you’re right, it is insanity and it’s why everyone (Randy Haugen) is storming the gates to get away from Team.

  5. Candace permalink
    May 25, 2009 7:32 am

    Hey Amthrax, Thanks for the shout-out.
    Very good info you have put together here. While I am not surprised that the individual prices of the “tools” are much lower than the package price…I am still disgusted by it. Thank you for breaking this down for us.

  6. Joe permalink
    May 26, 2009 10:46 am

    Well it looks like you didn’t factor in the Top 5 books into your pricing. That would make your individual pricing low by about $60 or more. You should also note that the trunks do not just cost $2000 and $1000, those are simply the names. Team Customer Service said that the price of the trunks adjust according to the sum of its components when items and individual pricing changes.

    Team Customer Support said that MonaVie lowered the price of their magazines in the last couple weeks and Team didn’t catch the price change right away. Team also lowered the price of their Top 50 recently and didn’t reduce the total of the trunk to reflect that change. Looks like an honest mistake by Team on that front. They appreciated my call.

    Team Customer Support confirmed that this pricing issue was only about a week old. It hasn’t been that way for an extended period of time and they completed the corrections as we spoke.

    You must be a member of Team if you have access to their member shopping cart. Did you call them and let them know they had a pricing issue? Seems like that would have been the proper way to handle this instead of going through the process of creating an entire webpost including links and screen shots for such a trivial thing.

  7. Justin Richards permalink
    May 26, 2009 11:25 am

    I noticed that pricing info for the top 5 books was missing from your spreadsheet on the Media 2000 kit

  8. May 27, 2009 1:35 am

    I listed each book individually. I could not find the Top 5 book group price.

  9. May 27, 2009 1:37 am

    Dude, look at the screenshots that I took on the website. They prices were $2000 and $1000 respectively for the Media Warrior Trunk 2000 and Media 1000 Trunk. I see now that the prices have been lowered to the near cost of the individual items.

    I am not a member of TEAM. Just go follow the links on this site to see the prices.

  10. Joe permalink
    May 27, 2009 11:40 am

    I’m not understanding how you were able to see the Team customer private login price if you don’t have a Team website subscription. That’s all.

    And if I follow the links, it doesn’t show $2000 exactly. It’s a specific number like $2003.48 or something, which indicates the components are added up.

    And in your spreadsheet, you listed the Top 5 books and their prices, but you didn’t include them in your total.

  11. May 27, 2009 1:33 pm

    “Joe” may be Orrin Woodward. I posted a comment on his Twitter post telling him to Twitter this, and added a link to this post.

    This makes at least a dozen dissenting posts I’ve put on the great leader Orrin’s blog that he will not post.

    He’s not a leader.

    But he’s something all right.

  12. May 28, 2009 12:52 am

    Ah, now I see what you’re saying. Yes, this actually makes the Media 1000 Trunk $50 cheaper than buying the items individually. No t-shirt nor decal, however. You’ll have to buy the Media Warrior 2000 Trunk for that… plus $50 more.

  13. Major Dave Stoner permalink
    June 1, 2009 7:16 pm

    I want my goddamn trunk!!!

  14. Major Dave Stoner permalink
    June 1, 2009 7:20 pm

    How can the brainwashed masses store their overpriced tools without their goddamn trunks? This is false advertising!!! Bring on the trunks!!! How can you call this a tool trunk without getting a trunk? Stop the insanity now!!!

  15. Major Dave Stoner permalink
    June 1, 2009 7:24 pm

    Joe sounds like Orrin Woodward just by the way his writing is. I just want to say to Orrin “Joe” Woodward, UP YOURS! Hope to see you in Louisville(NOT)!!

  16. August 3, 2009 6:53 pm

    Update: Looks like the TEAM Media Tool Trunks have been reduced in price. The Media Warrior 2000 is now selling for $1,684.90 and the Media Warrior 1000 now goes for $859.70.

  17. March 3, 2011 7:55 pm

    I initially didn’t purchase that trunk because it was too expensive, but when d really stopped to analyse it, I realised that I could easily accumulate the materials during regular purchases in tree Tool Room and mail purchases from being on system. I’m glad I didn’t get the trunk, who needs duplicates of practically EVERYTHING you’ve got???

    Bloody scammers.

  18. insider permalink
    March 4, 2011 12:07 am

    Here is a list of those on the team you may have asked about.

    Jim & Shelly Jones
    The Magic
    Orrin & Laurie Woodward
    Team PC
    Mark Mester
    The Phalanx of Team Rampage
    John & Lynn Mossner
    Team Momentum
    Chad & Carol Baker
    Dream Team Freedom Fighters
    Felmar & Sandra Montenegro
    United Team International
    Steve & Beth Morgan
    Leadership Company
    Kirk & Nicole Porter
    Team Maximus
    Brian & Sherry Powers
    Musketeers
    David & Megan Volpe
    Warriors

    Steve & Beth Morgan
    Leadership Company
    Chris & Terri Brady
    Team PC
    Felmar & Sandra Montenegro
    United Team International
    Brian & Sherry Powers
    Musketeers
    Larry & Marsie VanBuskirk
    Dan & Lisa Hawkins
    Team Stealth
    Mark Mester
    The Phalanx of Team Rampage
    Joseph & Michele Davis
    Tao Rhino
    Ken & Denise Wrobleski
    North Star Liberators
    Sheldon & Pauline Bouchard
    Team Central

    Jim & Shelly Jones
    The Magic
    Holger & Lindsey Spiewak
    Crusaders
    Chris & DanaƩ Mattis
    The Magic
    Bob & Kathy Meder
    Warrior Knights
    John & Lynn Mossner
    Team Momentum
    Josh & Angelica Dames
    Team Maximus
    Dean & Teresa Frey
    Team Explosion
    David & Claudia Walker
    Team One Purpose
    Joe & Jane McGuire
    Team Bulldog
    Joe & Laura Darkangelo
    Rampage Renegades

  19. March 4, 2011 12:30 am

    Editors Note: This comment from I Quit (and glad I Did).

    I wish I could say I never purchased it but that would be untrue. One might ask why I purchased it if thats how I feel. Youā€™re taught from the outset about the cashflow quadrant from the mind of Robert Kiyosaki. According to this financial guru it is preferable to live life on the right side of said quadrant. This is assuming you desire to have passive, residual income as opposed to trading time for money as it is on the left side. On the right side you have investing and what is termed ā€œB type business.ā€ In other words, business that runs itself. How this ties into the Team system is simple. Build it and eventually you will have a B biz. This of course can only be done by using the training system. And how can you use the training system to help you build your biz if you donā€™t have any to give to people? Chris Brady always said and Iā€™m paraphrasing but youā€™ll get the jist of it, ā€œDrop anyone anywhere with a top 50 pack and if they apply the knowledge contained therein, theyā€™ll be able to build a huge, successful biz!ā€
    The tools are to be used as a third person weapon. The prospect wonā€™t believe you but Mr. or Mrs. successful on the cd will say the same schtuff you did and make you look like a genie-I-ass. Genius. Sorry. (damn software) So we ventured out into 95% ville to spread the saving gospel of Team. Losing our cdā€™s, books, brochures and asses. Damn, I donā€™t have any more 1st nite packs I lost em all. MORE! I MUST HAVE MORE! People to save! Debt to pay off! Time to get back! I MUST BUY MORE!
    And so it goes. Why a tool trunk? Cuz theres a tool for every situation! Third person everything! By buying lots of tools you have lots to give away. Then youā€™ll be rich SOONER!

  20. aurora permalink
    March 4, 2011 3:15 pm

    Dang. We didn’t get any really cool ‘trunks’ in wwdb. Shucks.

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