Ping Bunt - Serious Question

No it is the other way around. Bunty quite clearly
thinks that he can drive others mad and get his
own way if he keeps up his vendetta.

No doubt when he was a child he used to stamp
his feet and have temper tantrums until the slimey
little greasebag got his own way. You can see this
behaviour quite clearly when he tells High Court
judges that he has the law right and the judge has
it wrong.

It must have been quite a shock for him to not
only to be told that he wasn't getting his own way
and to fuck off but to pay FORTY
THOUSAND POUNDS as he fucked off!

The rest of his bills have still to come. Stand by
for even more tantrums when he loses again.

Interesting and amusing that bunt was very perturbed when Dave was too
ill to attend the RCJ hearing on Dec 1st, suggesting all sorts of
ridiculous reasons for him not being there.

I wonder what reasons bunt might be able to put forward for not turning
up on the 10th March, other than the fact he would obviously look a
complete cunt, as his cases against the ISPs were struck
out................?

k

OK, I'll take it at face value as a serious question.

You are fully aware of my postings on this subject over the past
fifteen months, you cannot be unaware of the facts that I have stated
as being...

a/ none of the things I have been accused of were true
b/ call me any names you like, hurt those in my care and your ass is
mine
c/ etc

Now, in asking that question you are really asking me have the
accusations, harassment and abuse driven me to breakdown or to
contemplate suicide, and you ask that because if they had you might
yourself absent yourself from anything that might be deemed
participation.

To ask that question we have to assume, by way of empathy, that you
have attempted to stand in my shoes, and having done so and pictured
yourself as someone who has been the target of a sustained and
malicious conspiracy by multiple persons to defame, harass and abuse
one person for fifteen months now and counting, with any and every
possible degrading and demeaning accusation levelled at you, it would
simply be water off a duck's back.

My antagonists have choseb to publish, with great relish, statements of
claim, in which I have laboured the point that these accusations were
not damaging me so much, as damaging those around me, and gave
examples, that should have remained private, but they are no longer
private so there is nothing to be gained from beating about the bush
now.

My partner at the time (we are still friends) had an "unfortunate"
childhood, from being regularly raped with full penetration by a
neighbour when she was nine, to being gang raped by her boyfriend, his
brother and three friends of theirs when she was fourteen, through
being put in care because understandably this upset her, but her family
weren't prepared to deal with it (no charges were ever brought, easier
to hush it all up and save the embarrasment) and so she came out of the
care system as the only girl from her care home who did not turn to
drugs and or prostitution, but was nevertheless mentally brutalised
enough to have zero self respect and enter into a series of
relationships with abusive men, forced clinical abortions, being
punched and kicked in the stomach while heavily pregnant, you know the
sort of thing.

So there she is, trying to put her life together, have a fresh start,
waging a particularly nasty custody battle over her youngest child with
her ex, who saw the child as nothing more than a tool to use to control
her and make her life a misery, a process that was so awful and seedy
that at one point I had to drive her and her young daughter and her
eldest daughter to the hospital to have a full inspection by the senior
consultant paediatrician because of possible suspected abuse while the
kid was away with the ex...
oh yeah, I drove her there and sat through the whole thing KNOWING I am
by definition the prime suspect automatically, quite apart from the
fact that the "known paedophile" accusations had been flying about here
for many weeks by that time.

For many months, despite her awful history (gotta say, that woman has
more guts and integrity than ally my accusers and sycophants put
together) with the natural innate distrust of ALL men that that brings,
she was unswayed and never for a moment doubted the safety of either of
her daughters with me, not because she had no looked, but because she
had looked, and could find nothing to concern her.

So one day in the ongoing campaign chris stevens says he "knows for a
fact" that I have been imprisoned for paedophilia, bear in mind by this
time the paedophile accusations have been running for some months, and
the death threats, and she had come across the case of mr cooper in
manchester who was beaten to death in his own flat by a gang of
vigilantes who had believed malicious rumours that he was a paedophile,
he was not.

So, she's got an ongoing custody case, and basically waiting for the
day her ex finds she is living with a known paedophile, at which point
she would lose ALL access to her kids, she's got ongoing social
services intervention because she had the integrity to take her child
straight to a paediatrician when she saw something that caused her
concern, and because of a second incident when she took the child to
a+e with an extreme temperature and the kid screamed the bloody walls
down rather than allow the newly qualified scottish female doctor to
stick the rather large needle that she had been waving around in front
of the kids face into her arm, when I returned to the wards after
popping outside for a fag during this and all I can hear is a kid
screaming the place down and say "smack, bed no tea" to this kid, in
front of her mother, two nurses and the doctor, and the kid smiles
because it was a standing family joke, I get reported to social
services, funny that, me having a rare surname which is now plastered
all over the web and the doctor concluding I was a risk to the kid, or
maybe it was just sour grapes because I could calm the kid down because
she trusted me.

Any way, the "Know for a fact he has served time for paediphilia" was
the final straw, in between worrying about vigilantes burning the house
with her and her kids in it, losing her child because of the known
paedophile, basically being deprived of the one thing she loved,
computers and the internet, because she could not go near either
without reading about the known paedophile etc etc etc etc, she decided
discretion was the better part of valour, and I drove her up to the
womens refuge in glos, cost me 116 odd quid a week, nmeant she had to
stop work, kid out of school AGAIN, more ammunition for her ex in the
ongoing custody battle.

Can I blame her? no. Her first duty has to be to her own kid, and only
those who have known me all of my life man and boy can know for a fact
that I have never been anywhere near any of the things I have been
accused of, so what chance someone who didn't know I existed before
1999

Oh yes, I then had to furnish the house she got, from the council (
more state money and resources wasted, another council tenant) because
it was basically bare of everything except lightbulbs and the fitted
carpets.

She eventually won the custody case, part of that of course was a full
investigation into me by social services, who it should be mentioned
weren't any fans of mine because I had insisted the shit make it up as
we go along and abuse the mother verbally initial report wasn't good
enough and the child required a pukka job doing which resulted in the
manager of CAFCASS being forced to back down by a judge in court and
appoint another person to the case and do it again from scratch, so I
naturally enough came up with an officially clean bill of health, which
was the first proof she had seen.

So there it was, a gulf between herself and me, and indeed between
herself and her eldest daughter who never doubted me for a moment, but
it has to be said didn't have the history of abuse or a small child of
her own riding on it, a gulf that can never be undone.

Maybe a lifetime of abuse and then finally finding someone you could
trust, and then doubting them because some scum think its just a big
game to assasinate their character and other fools think it is really
funny to join in and fan the flames from the safe "uninvolved" distance
of merely trolling, only to discover your doubt was unfounded, and
you've now lost that precious thing that you searched for all your
life, and you don't have words to express the shame you feel at
yourself for doubting that person.

The above is just one small sample, one small thread, of what has been
my life, and by extension the life of those around me and under my care
since this started fifteen months ago.

Do not ask me if I am suicidal, I am not, I am not psychologically
capable of that emotion.

I have instead a FAR more interesting question for you, and this too is
a totally serious and sober and genuine question.

Even at the relatively distant level of participation in this sordid
little escapade that you have had, how would you feel about taking me
up on a genuine (not theoretical) invitation by me to come down here,
sit in front of this woman and her eldest daughter, and listen?

or, if you REALLY want to know how these games by these big hard tough
men who are the defendants affects real people other than their claimed
target, come here, sit down, place a stanley knife on the coffee table
and look them both in the eye and say "do to me what you will"

I would be somewhat impressed with the former, I would be greatly
impressed with the latter. The former would mean you wanted to learn,
the latter that you wanted to understand.

Unless you already understand that women trying to protect their
children are more dangerous than men, I strongly suggest you avoid the
latter option.

There you go, straight question, straight answer, and of course it is
only the tip of the iceberg, the rest is all here if you care to
examine it first hand and determine the truth for yourself.

You are far enough away from the centre of the action you stand a
really good chance of surviving the encounter with two of the innocent
victims of this campain (not at my hands, but theirs) the same could
not be said for those in the thick of it.

oooh, bunty exaggerating and talking bollocks again, here you go then,
£1,000 cash, yours if you can look in their eyes and the tell me you
see none of this and it is just bunty making it all up.

(usenet is a largely male preserve, but try running this post past a
woman and gauging their opinion before you think you have a handle on
it)

end

that must rank right up there with "there will be no court case! no!
never!" from comical ken

"pitiful rant"

is that how you describe the very real suffering that innocent
bystanders are still suffering every day as a result of the ongoing
abuse and harassment that you simply cannot bear to tear yourself away
from?

and you really wonder why you will find yourself in a court as
defendant soon?

dunno what will be tougher, explaining your attitude to the beak, or to
your missus and customers.

you still haven't commented on "paul moone takes it up the arse"
quotation.

You really are a barking mad cunt aren't you.

I doubt anyone cares what your friends do for entertainment.

Jon~

<snip>

<snip>

I'm sure she will be absolutely delighted that all that highly personal
information, which was once known to but a few people, has now
been used as a supportive testimony in an online row in front of
many people. You're such a gentleman.

How very selfless of you.

That looks like an assumption to me. Very dangerous things, assumptions.

Quite.

--
Sue H

ello sue, how's the mad carpenter doing?

might, and indeed does seem to have in a few cases, but it wasn't
exactly rocket science or non obvious even without being said.

Put away those sleeping tablets, and quit watching those videos of
daytime TV.............Sue H is back to bore us all into a very very
deeeeeeeeeeeep sleep!

k

Oh, i'm sure you two could amuse us with makeup/cosmetics questions Chris.

>> >:

Grumbling like a good'un, ta.

Nuff said, methinks.

--
Sue H

I can't see the Sue H post but if that 'throwing stones with the
gang' comment is directed towards me I can assure you, despite
any paranoid assumptions to the contrary, I'm part of no gang.

Making a comment in a public newsgroup, in relation to such personal
information being disclosed in support of an argument is not throwing
stones, it's making a comment. And that comment is that I thought it
totally un gentlemanly to use such personal information in that manner
for those purposes.

If people cannot handle comments about statements then people
should not make comments in public. Moreover, people should not
automatically assume that such comments are 'stones' thrown as
part of any 'gang'

: Making a comment in a public newsgroup, in relation to such personal

:
And my comment is that it might make people think twice about joining the
gang of people throwing insults.

: If people cannot handle comments about statements then people

:
Re read this last paragraph and then wonder to your self why you just posted
you fucking imbecile.

I was on the middle ground at first too but it did not take long before Bunt
& co said if you are on the fence you are part of the problem so it was easy
to decide what side to be on after the first insults & threats flew.
If it was not for the fact that Bunt makes it so easy to dislike him & seems
self destructive with his ridiculous rants it would be easy to pop him back
in the birdie broiler...but that would be no fun would it?

Jon~

For fucks sake - if you had ANY concept of empathy for anyone - you
would not publish their history anywhere.
Does she know you are telling people he history?

You have just fried the last vestiges of any lingering doubt that you
are not a nasty piece of shite.

You are.

Yuck. I feel dirty having read your post, not just because of the
suffering of the woman, but because you chose to devalue it with
comments like

Really put you out, that?

On a scale of 1 to 10 was is greater than her little problem?

What a grade A wanker you are!

is that a law, or aren't people allowed to make their own choices?

aye

mind you, she wasn't so impressed when tilley who had an injunction
barring from publishing anything about myself or family, and hancox
took great pleasure in publishing priveledged documents such as my
particulars of claim, which, if you bothered to read what I actually
wrote, already let the cat out of the bag, not that said cat had not
already been let out of the bag when she herself felt moved to publish
these exact same facts about her history,.

I see, I'm the intended victim of these people, those around me are
made to suffer too, and when I state this rather obvious fact somehow
this makes me the nasty piece of shite.

interesting perspective

>
> You are.

I see, so if someone is maliciously and falsely accused of being a
paedophile, and this is known for a fact it is claimed, and a woman
decides on the strength of that that termination is the only option
open to her, and she then discovers that the lies were indeed all lies
and the accused was totally innocent, do you also feel that this too
makes the accused a nasty piece of shit.

good

is this the same suffering that you are trying to demean by trying to
paint me as the nasty shit, in complete contrast to the views of the
woman in question?

isn't she allowed a vote in your moral indignation.

or is it simply the case that you do indeed feel dirty, and you don't
like that feeling, and so the easiest and quickest way to wash your
hands of that is to demonise me.

quick to judge aren't you.

in your haste to absolve yourself of any dirty feelings you'll jump to
any old conclusion.

try this on for size.

this is a woman who has decided on balance she can't trust me, because
if the things said about me are true etc. that's the rock.

the hard place is the ongoing custody battle with an abusive and
manipulative ex, who has already had enough extra ammo with the womens
refuge stay and the kid being out of school.

between the rock and the hard place that woman, who is already torn
apart ten different ways, has the additional to accept a house full of
furnishings and other financial support from someone who she cannot
afford to trust because of the lies told about him, and she has to do
this to protect her kid and make sure it has a decent home and as much
stability and normality as possible during what was anyway a fraught
process that wasn't doing the kid any favours psychologically.

as you can see, nothing in my book.

doesn't stop you from conjuring up an alternative reality that paints
me as the villain of the piece though, did it.

should I hold my breath waiting for your apology then?

tilley and stevens who published etc

the hour is late etc

Loads more personal stuff snipped.

You just don't get it do you?
I don't want to know about you, your life, your stuff.
I didn't know all this stuff about your missus before your post, never
wanted to know, nobody does, nobody really cares, all got our own thing
to do. You decided to throw it into the mix at this time.

But your little spat with others in here has dragged more and more bored
rubberneckers like myself in to watch, its like a slow motion car crash.

Except in a car crash, someone waves you along with "nothing more to see
here. move along", and it all dies away, eventually someone gets a slap
on the wrist and its all forgotton.

But you keep on popping up with action replays of the action, critisms
of the driving of the other motorists, biographies of the passengers et al.

If you want it all tidied away, stop fucking stirring the pot!

Your choice or her choice?

And she's happy to be dragged into your mess?
Apparently not if she left you.

Cite?

About time you gained some. Your ex would probably have no knowledge of
the goings on in here unless YOU told her.
I for one have never met anyone in real life that has heard of usenet,
let alone UKLSW.

Why, do you enjoy posting information that could only be intended to
either rev up your own personal pity factor, or try to titilate like
some sort of usenet Garry Springer (or whatever his name was).

She's voted with her feet apparently - getting away from your crusade.
Why HAVE you metioned her? Is it to show yourself not to be a paedo "I
have a woman", to be a good man "I helped my woman", to be a wronged man
"I had a woman, but she's gone"? etc?
Introducing her story does nothing to help you prove yourself 'right',
it just shows you capable of trying to use situations to justify yourself.

I always feel dirty when someone airs their own dirty laundry in public
when I haven't asked for it. Its like sitting in a pub with a married
couple having a row, don't want to hear their shite aired, don't know
which way to look, any comment will be taken the wrong way by one of
them - best advice you can give them is to STFU, go home and either get
divorced or kiss and make up. You don't make a row even slightly better
by telling the entire pub your wife has been shagging the postman.

No, a very well crafted conclusion.

And as I've said above - who has told her these things?
Must have been you.
Nobody in real life knows Usenet - really.
(If anyone is any doubt, spend tommorow asking friends, family, milkman,
pub buddies etc what they know about Usenet - answer NOBODY!
I've tried it as an experiment, and nobody had a bloody clue)

Soory to break this to you, but she's just using any excuse to dump you.

Buntword reality?

If you stopped posting till I apologise you might get some respect.

LOL

Okay, but what's happened to Mr Blobby? If you're going to write these
fairy stories don't suddenly lose a main character. Own up, you've lost
the plot.

Still no Mr Blobby.

> Morlock wrote:
>> Do you feel on the edge of a nervous breakdown or/and do you have
>> suicidal tendencies?
>
> OK, I'll take it at face value as a serious question.
>
> You are fully aware of my postings on this subject over the past
> fifteen months, you cannot be unaware of the facts that I have stated
> as being...
>
> a/ none of the things I have been accused of were true
> b/ call me any names you like, hurt those in my care and your ass is
> mine
> c/ etc
>
> Now, in asking that question you are really asking me have the
> accusations, harassment and abuse driven me to breakdown or to
> contemplate suicide, and you ask that because if they had you might
> yourself absent yourself from anything that might be deemed
> participation.
>
> To ask that question we have to assume, by way of empathy, that you
> have attempted to stand in my shoes, and having done so and pictured
> yourself as someone who has been the target of a sustained and
> malicious conspiracy by multiple persons to defame, harass and abuse
> one person for fifteen months now and counting, with any and every
> possible degrading and demeaning accusation levelled at you, it would
> simply be water off a duck's back.

> childhood, from being regularly raped with full penetration by a
> neighbour when she was nine, to being gang raped by her boyfriend, his
> brother and three friends of theirs when she was fourteen, through
> being put in care because understandably this upset her, but her
> family weren't prepared to deal with it (no charges were ever brought,
> easier to hush it all up and save the embarrasment) and so she came
> out of the care system as the only girl from her care home who did not
> turn to drugs and or prostitution, but was nevertheless mentally
> brutalised enough to have zero self respect and enter into a series of
> relationships with abusive men, forced clinical abortions, being
> punched and kicked in the stomach while heavily pregnant, you know the
> sort of thing.
>
> So there she is, trying to put her life together, have a fresh start,
> waging a particularly nasty custody battle over her youngest child
> with her ex, who saw the child as nothing more than a tool to use to
> control her and make her life a misery, a process that was so awful
> and seedy that at one point I had to drive her and her young daughter
> and her eldest daughter to the hospital to have a full inspection by
> the senior consultant paediatrician because of possible suspected
> abuse while the kid was away with the ex...
> oh yeah, I drove her there and sat through the whole thing KNOWING I
> am by definition the prime suspect automatically, quite apart from the
> fact that the "known paedophile" accusations had been flying about
> here for many weeks by that time.
>
> For many months, despite her awful history (gotta say, that woman has
> more guts and integrity than ally my accusers and sycophants put
> together) with the natural innate distrust of ALL men that that
> brings, she was unswayed and never for a moment doubted the safety of
> either of her daughters with me, not because she had no looked, but
> because she had looked, and could find nothing to concern her.
>
> So one day in the ongoing campaign chris stevens says he "knows for a
> fact" that I have been imprisoned for paedophilia, bear in mind by
> this time the paedophile accusations have been running for some
> months, and the death threats, and she had come across the case of mr
> cooper in manchester who was beaten to death in his own flat by a gang
> of vigilantes who had believed malicious rumours that he was a
> paedophile, he was not.
>
> So, she's got an ongoing custody case, and basically waiting for the
> day her ex finds she is living with a known paedophile, at which point
> she would lose ALL access to her kids, she's got ongoing social
> services intervention because she had the integrity to take her child
> straight to a paediatrician when she saw something that caused her
> concern, and because of a second incident when she took the child to
> a+e with an extreme temperature and the kid screamed the bloody walls
> down rather than allow the newly qualified scottish female doctor to
> stick the rather large needle that she had been waving around in front
> of the kids face into her arm, when I returned to the wards after
> popping outside for a fag during this and all I can hear is a kid
> screaming the place down and say "smack, bed no tea" to this kid, in
> front of her mother, two nurses and the doctor, and the kid smiles
> because it was a standing family joke, I get reported to social
> services, funny that, me having a rare surname which is now plastered
> all over the web and the doctor concluding I was a risk to the kid, or
> maybe it was just sour grapes because I could calm the kid down
> because she trusted me.
>
> Any way, the "Know for a fact he has served time for paediphilia" was
> the final straw, in between worrying about vigilantes burning the
> house with her and her kids in it, losing her child because of the
> known paedophile, basically being deprived of the one thing she loved,
> computers and the internet, because she could not go near either
> without reading about the known paedophile etc etc etc etc, she
> decided discretion was the better part of valour, and I drove her up
> to the womens refuge in glos, cost me 116 odd quid a week, nmeant she
> had to stop work, kid out of school AGAIN, more ammunition for her ex
> in the ongoing custody battle.
>
> Can I blame her? no. Her first duty has to be to her own kid, and only
> those who have known me all of my life man and boy can know for a fact
> that I have never been anywhere near any of the things I have been
> accused of, so what chance someone who didn't know I existed before
> 1999
>
> Oh yes, I then had to furnish the house she got, from the council (
> more state money and resources wasted, another council tenant) because
> it was basically bare of everything except lightbulbs and the fitted
> carpets.
>
> She eventually won the custody case, part of that of course was a full
> investigation into me by social services, who it should be mentioned
> weren't any fans of mine because I had insisted the shit make it up as
> we go along and abuse the mother verbally initial report wasn't good
> enough and the child required a pukka job doing which resulted in the
> manager of CAFCASS being forced to back down by a judge in court and
> appoint another person to the case and do it again from scratch, so I
> naturally enough came up with an officially clean bill of health,
> which was the first proof she had seen.
>
> So there it was, a gulf between herself and me, and indeed between
> herself and her eldest daughter who never doubted me for a moment, but
> it has to be said didn't have the history of abuse or a small child of
> her own riding on it, a gulf that can never be undone.
>
> Maybe a lifetime of abuse and then finally finding someone you could
> trust, and then doubting them because some scum think its just a big
> game to assasinate their character and other fools think it is really
> funny to join in and fan the flames from the safe "uninvolved"
> distance of merely trolling, only to discover your doubt was
> unfounded, and you've now lost that precious thing that you searched
> for all your life, and you don't have words to express the shame you
> feel at yourself for doubting that person.
>
> The above is just one small sample, one small thread, of what has been
> my life, and by extension the life of those around me and under my
> care since this started fifteen months ago.
>
> Do not ask me if I am suicidal, I am not, I am not psychologically
> capable of that emotion.
>
> I have instead a FAR more interesting question for you, and this too
> is a totally serious and sober and genuine question.
>
> Even at the relatively distant level of participation in this sordid
> little escapade that you have had, how would you feel about taking me
> up on a genuine (not theoretical) invitation by me to come down here,
> sit in front of this woman and her eldest daughter, and listen?
>
> or, if you REALLY want to know how these games by these big hard tough
> men who are the defendants affects real people other than their
> claimed target, come here, sit down, place a stanley knife on the
> coffee table and look them both in the eye and say "do to me what you
> will"
>
> I would be somewhat impressed with the former, I would be greatly
> impressed with the latter. The former would mean you wanted to learn,
> the latter that you wanted to understand.
>
> Unless you already understand that women trying to protect their
> children are more dangerous than men, I strongly suggest you avoid the
> latter option.
>
> There you go, straight question, straight answer, and of course it is
> only the tip of the iceberg, the rest is all here if you care to
> examine it first hand and determine the truth for yourself.
>
> You are far enough away from the centre of the action you stand a
> really good chance of surviving the encounter with two of the innocent
> victims of this campain (not at my hands, but theirs) the same could
> not be said for those in the thick of it.
>
> oooh, bunty exaggerating and talking bollocks again, here you go then,
> £1,000 cash, yours if you can look in their eyes and the tell me you
> see none of this and it is just bunty making it all up.

At the end of the day, was she a good shag?

YOUR PARTICULARS OF CLAIM IS NOT A "PRIVILEDGED" DOCUMENT, BUT A TRUE
VALIDATION OF THE FACT YOU ARE LITTLE MORE THAN A RATHER UNPLEASANT
LUNATIC, WHO DOESNT GIVE A FUCK FOR ANYTHING, OTHER THAN THE CHILDISH
VENDETTA HE CHOOSE TO START ON HERE!!!!

K

Remember that my assumptions about your reasons for persuing the course of
action you have taken are based on what I have read on Usenet. At first I,
perhaps wrongly, believed that you were on a crusade to effectively stamp
out anonymity on the Internet, something which I am a firm believer in.
However, I have realised that your motivation is perhaps indeed rooted at a
more personal level based on some of your recent contributions. My opinions
on the case have changed and I do not believe anymore that your primary
motivation is anything but to seek what you believe is justice.

As I stated previously, no, I did not believe that your course of action was
motivated by anything but to change basic principles of law regarding the
Internet. I do not believe I have posted anything which could be considered
defamatory, nor have I reposted anything that could be considered so, as I
am well aware of the law in this regard. I have on occasion made a few
sarcastic comments, and also addressed points of law, but nothing which
could be regarded as anything but opinion.
I have been told to 'keep out of it' but when the whole case has been aired
on a public forum, which I read regularly, it is hard not to become involved
to some extent.

I never saw the post regarding your statement of claim, but would be
interested in reading it.

This is a remarkably familiar story, one which I can relate to in more ways
than you could possibly imagine, so in a lot of ways I can sympathise with
her, but to be overly sympathetic will not do her any favours.

I have seriously considered your offer, and if it wasn't for the fact that I
have three children, two of whom are teenagers going through a particularly
angst ridden stage of their lives, as teenagers do, and a youngster who
needs constant supervision, coupled with the fact that I have to work for a
living, I really do not have the time to take you up. Besides, I have never
met anyone I have communicated with on Usenet, have only communicated with
two people outside of this medium where I met them, and for now would rather
keep it this way.

Apart from that, I do not really see what it would achieve, except for
convincing me what you are saying is true, which I do not doubt any way.

Email me off list, and I would be pleased to send you scans of
baldricks SOCs..........do make very amusing reading!

k

You know.. One's like these:-

"you can film yourself fucking a kid, and sell it on the internet"-
John Bunt

No use blaming anyone else for what YOU have been
up to is it Bunty?

Anyone for a game of smacky bum?

Not me, Guv - I don't 'do' make-up.

--
Sue H

Says he, doing exactly what it is that he's accusing me of.

--
Sue H

Can't be a return - I never went anywhere.

>.
>
>Tee He He He <smirk>.

Hmm.

--
Sue H

<chuckle>

Fair comment. However, I like to think that I know Fawkes well enough to
'know' that he would not have given all that information without the
say-so of his ex.

--
Sue H

ah yes, complicates matters somewhat dunnit

One the one hand I have beliefs about "big" ideas like the net and
freedom, on the other hand I don't do crusades, I learnt really early
on you can't fight for other people, or justice for them, or anything
else, you always stand alone and the only message you even get across
is that you personally are not to be fucked with.

if you've got an idle hour or two do a search of posts and note that
no-one who met me in real life asked why I was doing this, because they
already knew, and nobody else asked either, because (like sharky) they
really aren't interested.

I'll leave the discussion on anonymity for another thread, if you feel
like starting one, because it really is a separate issue and it only
overlaps this case in so far as there is a difference between knowing
in your own mind who someone is, and being able to demonstrate to a
court you have the correct given name and address to put on the forms.

oh it always has been, "you invited yourself into my life" was one of
my first comments when this started over a year ago to tilley

I don't even seek that really.

One of the things I try to teach people (which you will relate to) is
the need to stand on your own two feet and fight for what is right,
believe in yourself, etc etc, and the Law is a truly wondrous system
because it is impartial, two opponents can go to law and be judged
without fear or favour, and whatever the result is is free from
personal opinion or attitude or taint.

you learn whether you were right or wrong.

so if anything my primary motivation is to teach people that all
actions have consequences, and it does not matter who you are or how
life has treated you, you are entitled to the same rights and
protections under the law as anyone else.

I think they should change, at the moment the laws are too blunt

eg people who use motor vehicles in death race 2000 cannot be punished
unless the victim manages to track them down, because the only tool in
the legal toolbox was whether to make the vehicle manufacturers
responsible or not.

just as some drivers will play death race 2000, some manufacturers will
build and market the killing machine 666, so what do you do, make
everyone suffer for the actions of a few who will not act morally and
ethically, or just declare it all legal because your instrument is too
blunt.

fair comment

yeah, it is real tough to not become involved, it is also all to easy
to fall into the trap and find yourself trolling mercilessly.

I don't have issues with that, just those who really don't give a fuck.

the case is ongoing, perhaps in a few weeks when it is over if you're
still interested ask again.

you'll find through and through there is the ethical argument instead
of the purely legal argument, which is why my opponents so enjoyed
taking the piss.

credit me with more imagination, when you start bumping into "shit" in
life at first you wonder if you are some sort of magnet attracting it,
maybe you are doing something wrong, maybe you're meeting the wrong
sort of person.

eventually it dawns on you, it is just out there, and you will bump in
to it with clockwork regularity, just because it is there.

course, much of society is based upon denial of this, and keeping eyes
averted, cos otherwise you'd have to take a moral stance eh.

yeah, preaching to the choir.

I'm not sympathetic, I may empathise, but what I do is I will help
anyone who is willing to fight, they don't have to know how to fight,
just be willing to learn.

fairy nuff

mm, truth has that certain taste, it also tends to polarise people,
everyone claims it is the thing they want, but in reality what they
usually prefer is an acceptable lie.

Maybe she read for herself what you posted about getting
erections looking at 12 year olds Bunty? I mean it was
a global public forum that you posted to.

Maybe she read that you were involved with porn sites? Can't
put her in a very good position in a child care battle if she is
with someone selling Internet sex who then announces to the
world that he likes playing games smacking kids bums can it?.......

Did she mention to her brief that you SELL CLASS A DRUGS
supllied by bent coppers as well? That would go down a hit (!)
with a judge in a family court eh?

Did she mention the "cash in hand" work you do to avoid
guvmint fees? I'm sure a judge will understand.

Not my idea of fun.

Beats me why folk want to 'compete' anyway - life is WAY too short for
all that nonsense.

--
Sue H

Mind you don't cut yourself on those scissors.

--
Sue H

baldrick seems to be getting very hot under the collar in relation to
exactly the same sort of thing he has been handing out to others over
many years!

I wonder why exactly all the many hundreds he has attacked and defamed,
have not also taken these matters to law?.....................perhaps
due to the fact that unlike bb they are not stark staring bonkers!

k

I wonder if baldrick has had some sort of relationship with Sue
H?................Perhaps she wasnt half as deadly dull and dreary
before hooking up with bb?

k

Find out which family court is handling it and send them a few of
Buntys
posts. Better still send them to Social Services at Exeter

He hasn't.

Change the record, you tedious excuse for a human being.

--
Sue H

"Tedious excuse for a human being" eh Sue!..............I think you
need to read a few of your own posts, before suggesting anyone else in
in the same predicament as you yourself!

k

http://www.masonicinfo.com/chris.htm

People as deadly dreary and dull as yourself and Sue H, are never
likely to have web pages written for them now, are they Mikey
boy.........................lol

k

http://www.masonicinfo.com/chris.htm

And your proud od the contents of that page. You ave proven to show your
a sick fucka.