After Disney-Marvel Deal, Cartoonist’s Heirs Seek to Reclaim Rights

The Walt Disney Company’s proposed $4 billion acquisition of Marvel Entertainment may come with a headache: a brand-new superhero copyright dispute.

Heirs to the comic-book artist Jack Kirby, who has been credited as the co-creator of characters and stories behind Marvel mainstays like the “X-Men” and “Fantastic Four,” among many others, last week sent 45 notices of copyright termination to Marvel, Disney, Sony Pictures, Universal Pictures, 20th Century Fox, Paramount Pictures and others who have been making films and other forms of entertainment based on the characters.

The legal notices expressed an intent to regain copyrights to some creations as early as 2014, according to a statement from Toberoff & Associates, a Los Angeles firm that helped win a court ruling last year returning a share of the copyright in Superman to heirs of the character’s co-creator, Jerome Siegel.

Reached by telephone on Sunday, Mr. Toberoff declined to elaborate on the statement. A spokeswoman for Marvel had no immediate comment. Disney said in a statement, “The notices involved are an attempt to terminate rights seven to 10 years from now, and involve claims that were fully considered in the acquisition.” Fox, Sony, Paramount and Universal had no comment.

Marvel shareholders must still approve the sale of the company to Disney, which is already battling criticism from some Wall Street analysts that Marvel comes with too messy an array of rights agreements. The worry is that Disney will have a hard time immediately executing a coordinated exploitation of Marvel’s various brands.

Sony has the film rights to Spider-Man in perpetuity, for instance, while Fox has the X-Men and the Fantastic Four. Paramount has a distribution agreement for Marvel’s next few self-produced movies, including a second “Iron Man” film. Meanwhile, Hasbro has certain toy rights and Universal holds the Florida theme park rights to Spider-Man and the Incredible Hulk, among other characters.

Mr. Kirby, who died in 1994, worked with the writer-editor Stan Lee to create many of the characters that in the last decade have become some of the most valuable in a Hollywood that hungers for super-heroes. Mr. Kirby was involved with “The Incredible Hulk,” “The Mighty Thor,” “Iron Man,” “Spider-Man,” and “The Avengers,” and others.

The window for serving notice of termination on the oldest of the properties opened several years ago, and will remain open for some time under the law. But Disney’s announced purchase gives a new reason for anyone with claims on Marvel to stake out a position.

Under copyright law, the author or his heirs can begin a process to regain copyrights a certain period of years after the original grant. If Mr. Kirby’s four children were to gain the copyright to a co-created character, they might become entitled to a share of profits from films or other properties using it. They might also find themselves able to sell rights to certain characters independently of Marvel, Disney, or the various studios that have licensed the Marvel properties for their hit films.

In July, a federal judge in Los Angeles ruled that Warner Brothers and its DC Comics unit had not violated rights of the Siegel heirs in handling internal transactions related to Superman, but an earlier ruling had already granted the heirs a return of their share in the copyright. In the late 1990s, Mr. Toberoff represented a television writer, Gilbert Ralston, who sued Warner over the rights to the film “Wild, Wild West.” The suit was ultimately settled.

Copyright issues have become increasingly difficult for Hollywood, as it continues to trade on characters and stories that were created decades ago, but are now subject to deadlines and expiration dates under federal copyright law.

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Patrick Nielsen Hayden September 20, 2009 · 3:57 pm

I suppose it’s defensible, but it’s a little startling to see Jack Kirby referred to as a “cartoonist.” Inside the industry, the word for people who draw that kind of comic books is generally “artist.”

Not that there’s anything remotely wrong with cartooning, but it’s not the word that get used to describe what Kirby did.

Kirby was not involved with Spider-Man. That character was created by Stan Lee and Steve Ditko.

The next superhero… the copyright litigating lawyer…?

Why don’t these heirs make a contribution to society like their ancestors did, instead of just sponging off them?

Best of luck to the Kirby family. They deserve every penny they can get, and then some – Marvel truly is “the house that Jack built.”

“…as early as 2014…” That’s rich!

The Corporation can sue 100 grampas for theft of IP in the blink of an eye! But it takes the artists’ families 5 years to win?? What’s up with this?

Copyright law is a morass. The DMCA is a debacle. How about we do it over again — the right way this time — with ZERO LOBBYISTS!!

Steve Ditko, still alive, can claim a toe-hold on Spider Man as well. Get going Steve!!

The ghosts from the past.

Copyright law is completely out of control. Now these big businesses can reap what they have sown.

Jack ‘the King’ Kirby was the most prolific comic character creator so far. His family had to send out notices to ’45’ companies that are looking to exploit his creations. Why haven’t the family been taken care of when Marvel has sold some rights from his creations to 44 other companies? How many people have made a living off of his creations? Too bad his family is taken advantage of.

It’s pretty common knowledge that Kirby created most of the Marvel characters and it makes perfect sense that the sale of the creators’ intellectual property without permission would be an issue — I’d love to see Kirby get his due when all is said and done.

Any long-time comics fan knows how much these corporations profited under the oversimplified work-for-hire standards in place from the birth of the medium all the way into the 70s (and beyond). The legal system is finally beginning to address the inequalities that led these corporations to generate hundreds of milions of dollars with very little going to the actual creators. Go, Kirbys, go Siegels…

I hope that the estate of Jack Kirby succeeds in righting the many wrongs Marvel’s earliest management afflicted on Kirby. It’s about time that the comics publishing industry recognizes creators’ right.

THE KING AND I

I met the late, great, Jack “King” Kirby at a convention on a Saturday afternoon in the late 1980’s. I found him warm, charming and very giving with his time. We bonded over an interest in ancient Mesopotamian mythology and, among other things, creator rights.

As veteran of WWII, he was more than delighted ito relate to some of us fans how he had single-handedly captured a squad of Nazis, even while his lovely wife, Roz stood nearby and lovingly scolded, “Jack, no war stories.”

I told Mr. Kirby that I would return the following day with a cousin, an entertainment lawyer who’d become a bit jaded and unimpressed with celebrities. Jack immediately concocted a plan to put into action the following day.

I returned on Sunday and, as Jack had instructed me to, explained to my cousin that I wanted him to meet “a very good friend of mine” at the convention. My very, jaded entertainment lawyer cousin was at first infazed when first introduced to this small framed, giant of the comics industry…until the name Jack Kirby finally registered (and obviously resonated).

“The King” and I laughed when, as he shook Jack’s hand, my cousin looked at me wide-eyed and sputtered, “Do you know who this is?”

He invited us to viist him if we were ever in his neck of the woods.

It is only fitting that the copyright laws have since been altered to protect artists as creative and generous as this man.

Long live The King!

jack kirby knew hollywood would use his work. let’s let Jack’s heirs benefit from his ground breaking and pioneering! who else and how else should we reward and recognize the source? support artists!

As Jules Feiffer commented in “The Great Comic Book Heroes” in re the litigation that put Captain Marvel (temporarily) out of business for infringement of Superman’s copyright:

“Nothing is as super as a writ.”

(It’s worth noting that once the lawyers troup in, these issues get as convoluted as the number of parallel worlds in the DC multiverse and at least as murky as the origin of Wolverine. For instance,. Although DC eventually bought the character of the original Captain Marvel and his entire family, and the Big Red Cheese and Man of Steel now fight crime side by side, DC at the time did not get the rights to the name “Captain Marvel” – Marvel had snapped that up in the interim and introduced its own completely different character – so for a time, Billy Batson’s alter ego was known as Shazam. So look for this to drag on for decades.)

It is about time! The U.S. should require eternal rights to creative content to held ONLY by the creator or his family and mandate that royalties must be paid to them. It is time for a more equitable system. Marvel or any corporation should be profiting so extremely from unfair agreements so many years after someone like Kirby or Lee MADE MARVEL WHAT IT IS TODAY. The reason so many companies exist as competitors is because of this blatant theft of creator rights. Who really wants to expend all their God-given talent knowing the company and its shareholders will be the only ones benefiting from something they quite frankly- didn’t do and are incapable of creating on their own. Sorry investors, I don’t see you profiting off sports players images or fan following just because they played a game in your stadium. If Marvel had done this fairly in the 90s Image comics and their artists like Mc Farlane would have never left. History will repeat itself and Disney shareholders will lose their investment.

Why don’t these heirs make a contribution to society like their ancestors did, instead of just sponging off them?

— shixilun

But it’s ok for a nameless, faceless, undying corporation to sponge off of those creations for all eternity?!

Seriously dude, get some perspective and choose your targets more carefully. Kirby invented the modern comic age….I don’t begrudge his family from getting a piece of that legacy.

It’s clobberin’ time!

Charles: There’s already a “Captain Copyright”, but it appears to me that he’s a supervillain, not a superhero.

I expect better from the New York Times.

Jack Kirby had NOTHING to do with the creation of Spider-Man, and thus his heirs have NO claims over the character.

Spider-Man was a creation og Stan Lee and Steve Ditko.

I whish the best to jack kirby, he eserves everything he gets from this. He is the foundation of the mavel universe[not forgeting “stan Lee”].

It’s nice to see Jack finally getting some recognition outside of the comic industry. It’s too bad it has to be under these kind of circumstances.

Hmm, Shouldn’t this copyright be over now? I can see lots of people are going to regret increasing copyright retentions so far in the future. It’s a shame the US’ copyright system is so messed up.

I understand the familly want share of the profits, but imho I don’t see why do they earn it any better than the corporations. Were they involved in creating those characters in any way? Copyrights being held for ages after author death is just insanity. 5-10 years sounds about reasonable, after that it should be public domain.