Norah-Christine Runningwolf BUSTED

As anyone can see, "James" is posting from the exact same IP address
and BROWSER as Runningwolf.

I suppose I should be grateful that Faux Indians are this stupid.

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From: james <whoseho...@aol.com>
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Subject: At he risk of losing a friend
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To you who have attacked Ms RunningWolf.
I have to ask you what have you done to make your world a better
place? This has been the motto of her life, to leave a place better
than you find it.
I spent two weeks one summer with her. She ran me ragged. Ten boxes
of clothing to a family of ten, one box a piece. Clothes she
collected, sorted, took the best, washed them, ironed them, sewed
buttons on what needed them, bought new underwear, she said she
would not want to wear other people's undies, why should they?. Toys
for the little ones and school supplies in two more separate boxes.
She sent them off, teasing even a few dollars from me to help with
postage.
Then, there was the four bedroom house where the new owner tore up the
new carpet to replace with a different color. She went over and
begged it for a family with kids, so the kids wouldn't be playing on
the old wood floors and get splinters. We loaded that into her old
pickup, drove all those miles to take it to the family. Ms
RunningWolf tried to get me to help put down the carpet, but no carpet
man am I. The new sewing machine she purchased and shipped from her
meager Social Security check for another family, so they could sew
their own Powwow regalia, and clothes for their kids. Going over to
the sick woman and making her meals for a week. Giving an unemployed
family man the last of her check so he could buy gas for his car and
try to find a job.
All that in just two weeks. while taking care of her very ill
husband, too.
I know Ms RunningWolf may be angry with me for telling this about
her. But I could not keep quiet any longer. And yes, she is 6 foot
tall. Or as she would say, 6 foot high and spreading. ;)

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i cried, and couldn't stop the tears.
warning, it is very graphic.
a muslin friend sent it to me with the warning it would tear my
heart, as it did hers.

http://mashable.com/2009/06/

many of the youtube videos of neda's murder have been removed due to
"tos violation".

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I have to stop reading her posts telling what a wonderful, genuine
person she is for awhile....or I am going to pee myself laughing.

"She is no poseur.
She is who she says she is.
No more, no less.
I, and my family owe her a great debt.
As do many.
Countless, over the years."

"thank you, james.
i am honored beyond words beyond by your words,"

She even tried to generate interest in HERSELF with the James"
account in 2007.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.native/msg/0131fc1334aef016?hl=en&dmode=source
"Has anyone heard from RunningWolf?"

So Norah Runningwolf aka "James" aka god only knows how many other
sockpuppets.....how "honored" are you feeling right about now ya
lying fraud?

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Runningwolf

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As I read through these threads.
NONE of you know old lady RunningWolf.
She is no poseur.
She is who she says she is.
No more, no less.
I, and my family owe her a great debt.
As do many.
Countless, over the years.
She has helped many, not seeing the color of the skin.
That she speaks her mind is no sin.
That white people attack her is no surprise.
She is all they hate in the Red Man, or in her case, Red Woman.
Decency, honor, bravery, and honor.
And most of all, compassion.
I do not come here often, only to see if there is anything of value
to Indian issues.
But this attack upon her disgusts me.

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On Jun 10, 6:30=A0pm, james <whoseho...@aol.com> wrote:
> As I =A0read through =A0these threads.
> NONE of you know old lady RunningWolf.
> She is no =A0poseur.
> She is who she says she is.
> No more, no less.
> I, and my family =A0owe her a great debt.
> As =A0do many.
> Countless, over the =A0years.
> She has helped many, not seeing =A0the color of the skin.
> That she speaks her mind is no sin.
> That white people attack her is no surprise.
> She =A0is all they hate in the Red Man, =A0or in her case, Red Woman.
> Decency, honor, bravery, and honor.
> And most of all, compassion.
> I do not come here often, only to see if =A0there is anything of value
> to Indian issues.
> But this attack upon her disgusts me.

thank you, james.
i am honored beyond words beyond by your words,
but this is but the internet, anything can be said by anyone.

What??? ROFLMAO Geeezzz, you Faux Indians will say ANYTHING when
defending one of your ilk.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.native/browse_thread/thread/967792a491a3f413/a571cc68ab13d563?hl=en#a571cc68ab13d563

"According to Old Lady RuuningWolf, from what she has said to me in
the
past, you owe no one any apology.
As she would say, "Fuggemall.
She, too, was there, Monica.
She simply prefers not to tell all and sundry. No disrespect to you.
It is only her choice.
At one time, I knew her well.
And now, I cannot find her. My sad loss.
James "

"Thank you, Monica.
No, She is not on any other boards that I can find. But thank you
anyway.
If anyone hears from her, please tell her James from Browning, MT, is
looking for her.
She is very old, I hope she is doing better.
In the old, we have our "books" of history. We are losing more of
them every day."

Guardian -- Your words should be directed to yourself here. I suggest
you think about what you are doing. You are getting involved in an
Indian Identity issue that should be dealt with by Indians in their
own way, if they so choose,and in what way they choose.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Good *point* S..then we suppose that some folks is like flies on the
ceiling..their *shit* still sticks..no matter what...
Nd in actual fact..most folks on the Planet look at *them* in that regard..
:)

wayne george
~~~~~~~~~~~

unrequited infatuation is hell.
some people just can't handle it.
hell hath no fury as a woman who thinks she is scorned.

What Indian(s) would that be? Norah Runningwolf is in no way shape or
form an Indian by ANY Indian Nation's definition. She is a citizen of
MY Nation, not an Indian Nation.

Runningwolf/James is an on-line Anglo fraud, so why do you think an
Indian Nation would have anything to do with her?

> hell hath no fury

Hell hath no fury as a dedicated Heathen

aw, ya know ya love me, else you would not be so obsessed with me. lol

As it is written: There is a fine line between love and hate. :)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

IF...this is *your case*...as ( i ) see it from my point of view..then *you
both* ..should come together nd agree *you both* are as close to being
INDIAN as your gonna get..nd leave it at that..

WE other Indians...don't need to open up this News Group..to find *you
both* constantly ragging on one another...The *air* then begins to take on a
sick stench :-)

wayne george
~~~~~~~~~

I do not love her or hate her. How could I, she is not a real person
She is a completely fake Internet construct.

Welcome to the Cyberverse Cafe, my name is Betsy and I will be your
waitress today. May I recommend the Roasted Rump of Anglo, served
with a side of sockpuppet salad, sprinkled with Caucasian croutons?
It comes with a complementary glass of White Whine :-)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

because *yawl*..seem to think there is *one truth*...yours nd only yourn..

When *truth* comes in many forms..it is hard to find one that fits..but
*YAWL* semm to want to PUSH yourn into others space...

hence..*yawl* become a lame duck quackin nd a squackin nda poopin all over..

By the by Guardie..thats was directed at chew... :-)
have a good one dude...

wayne george
~~~~~~~~~

Gee wayne. I thought you liked all white women and hated all Indian
women?

You are absolutely right, Mr. George. I got caught up in something
that is none of my business. Best wishes to you and the news group.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Nd i love Bob The Builder's girl friend Wendy.. :)

wayne george
~~~~~~~~~

No thanks, i'm not buying.

You and certain others here seem to feel like you're in a position to
define who is and isn't a *real human being*.

Shit, i even hear on alt.native today that white people have no claim
to *Mother Earth*, as if people of euro-descent have no right to even
be on the planet. Or is it implying that this continent is somehow
completely isolated from whatever happens everywhere else on this
planet?

These are the so-called *truths* that some people need to justify
their hate.

You don't.

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Monica...*you* presume too much..for one so young.

wayne george
~~~~~~~~~

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I for *one* ,would like to know where this has been posted & by who...

As I DUMP a lot of SHIT out of Alt.Native..sometimes I throw out some SHIT
worth saving ;)

wayne george
~~~~~~~~~

It is in the thread called A New Day.

This is what was said:

Monica: "You can't heal Mother Earth if you are abusing women."

Me: "Heed your own words!

Monica: "White women aren't daughters of Mother Earth. Just Indians."

The teaching is for INDIANS. I was talking with red cherries about an
Indian issue. Domestic violence and abuse of Indian women. You white
butts are always trying to make me say that white women are scared.
There are other sites where you can talk about that. You don't have to
hijack threads about our important issues.

Bullshit. Earth is the mother of ALL, not just Indians. You made a
statement out of your own hatred and ego. It did not come from
Spirit. It came from the human and flawed Monica Charles. Don't try
to flip around and say you were being all spiritual by preaching hate.

Which you excuse Indian men from, because white men *forced* them to
do it?

*LMAO* No, you WISH we were scared of you. Freudian slip much?

You can't admit that Indian men are responsible for their actions.
You can't admit that ALL life is sacred.
You can't even admit that non-Indians are human.

Looks to me like it's an INDIAN woman that is SCARED. Truth is a
threat to her for some reason. She is SO scared and feels SO
powerless that she has to try to steal power from her "enemies" by
lying about them and by making them less than human. It is an insult
to the Creator.

Get it straight, monica. You are the one who is stealing YOUR OWN
POWER, not us. You are gorging yourself with so much hate, there's no
room for anything else. Nobody has to lift a finger to harm you.
You're destroying YOURSELF. Save yourself before it's too late.

No, it isn't just for *Indians*, Monica. That is a teaching that goes
back to the 'beginning' of many cultures, including 'european', and
which was supressed by the Judaic religion and its offshoots. The
Hebrew teachings (and subsequently the Muslim and Christian teachings)
try to 'cover up' the innate feminine connection to the Earth by
claiming that women (daughters of 'man') were given these teachings by
males (sons of god). What you are doing here is not only setting race
relations back to pre-civil movement days, it is also setting female
autonomy back to pre-feminist movement days. What you are claiming for
yourself and denying to all other women is not something that is
*yours* alone, regardless of how it fits into teachings that *are*
yours alone.

We are all children of 'Mother Earth' whether you like it or not.

Excuse me, but you were *not* talking with Red Cherries. You were
talking with a woman named Lisa D.

Uh... okay, i'll bite. Scared of what?

Of course there are other sites. But as in LIFE, we're here, not
there. There are also other sites where you could express your anti-
white racism with more collective support than you'd ever receive on a
usenet group which is open to everyone regardless of 'race'. But
again, you're here, not there - so i guess it's a draw.

> hijack threads about our  important issues.- Hide quoted text -

That's just it. These "important issues" are not just *yours*, they
are everyone else's too, and there is also crossover. In fact, since
most of your Native Issues revolve around "white people", that alone
justifies the presence here of white people. Does that thought ever
even OCCUR to you?

You white people have brought Mother Earth to the brink of extinction.
She has disowned you.

You prophesied that evil was coming to alt.native. That evil was your
true self princess. Whites are the most hated people in the world.
With good reason. You claim to be Indian butt you refuse to look at
what your people have done. That was no slip. You are scared to face
what your people have done in the world. Your people have killed
Indian babies. On youtube is testimony from an Indian woman who
actually was abused in residential schools. She tells the story of a
young girl raped by a priest. He delivered his own baby. Then he threw
his own newborn baby into the furnace to kill her and get rid of
evidence. That's what your people have done on this earth princess.

talk bout E-V-I-L...

Look at You monica...

Look at what YOU've done...

everbody else has seen it, BUTT...obviously you can not...

go figure...

I see your evil black heart. Saw it a long time ago. So did trimbach.
That's why he recruited you.

Mmm-hmm. Because you say so, eh? This really gives insight into your
*lack of understanding* about Mothers in general.

will Hawt Dang...Quite droolin N starta Kissin girl...

whamattawhitchya?...

we KNOW ya Wub it...cuz ya keep comin backfer mo...

right?

jizt cain't gitnuff, eh?

U near ass badazz yer Numba Wun Monkee Boi chat...

Insatiable!

Um, I had already been here 6 months.

No argument there. But the past few years, I think the Arab nations
might be giving us a run for our money.

One lie...

Two lies.

Oh, I see, you MEANT to say we were trying to FORCE you to say we are
scared. Against your will. Because you hate insulting us so much.
Yeah, sure, we believe you, moanica. *LMAO*

Yeah, that's why I am here reading the posts about the history and
what is going on today. That's why I put up with the constant
insults. Because I am SCARED to face the truth. And you say WE twist
things?? Hon, you put pretzels to shame!!

Okay, that's what evil white people have done. I don't claim them as
my people. I would never condone that behavior, nor would anyone in
my family. I would have no problem shooting a priest to keep him from
raping someone or killing a child.

Do you claim the Indian who scalped the white child in Donna's family
letter as your people? Would you condone that? Would you do whatever
it took to stop him? Or would you say it doesn't matter, because
white children are not really human anyway?

There are several accounts of her scalping in the family, but those
were horrendous times for *all* involved. I'm sure my ancestors did
things they later regretted as well. Sadly, these things happen in
war, even the murder of young girls. No matter who is fighting. No
matter which side. And there is always more than *one side* of truth.
Nothing is ever so completely one-sided as Monica tries to claim, but
our histories are entwined, so all truths are important.

Both Indians and 'white people' are equally capable of hurting a
child, if this issue must come down to 'race' and 'culture' - even
when children are the most innocent beings of all in our 'grown-up'
wars. It happens, it did happen, and these are simple, provable
facts.

From a Revolutionary War pension application - regarding one of my
ancestors on my dad's side, filed in the national archives:

March 22, 1834
"That he was one of the early settlers of Western Virginia and had to
endure much
of the hardships of Indian warfare -- that he recollects a party of
Indians given chase after Martin Harless and that he narrowly escaped
and arrived in the Fort after a race of 3 or 4 miles, then he
recollects of the murder and the taken into captivity many of his
neighbors amongst whom was of the families of Sybrook, Chapman,
McKinsey and a number of others; a daughter of Sybrook's was scalped
and beat on the head with a war club and found living next morning and
when she was found asked for a drink of water and soon after expired
-- in scenes like these he passed through the Revolutionary or at
least up until the fall of 1771 after which time he declined to be
engaged against them."

That is very true, unfortunately. And I have even heard stories from
family members about cultures that think it's acceptable war practice
to strap explosives on a young boy or girl and send them into bars or
restaurants or other places where enemy soldiers congregated. So what
do you do? Do you shoot every youngster that approaches, or take a
chance on everyone in the place being blown to bits? War is hell, no
matter where, no matter when, no matter why.

At least you are not trying to pin the blame on someone who was born
many generations after the fact.

> [...] then he

> McKinsey and a number of others; [...]

That brings up an interesting point. I'm sure many whites were taken
into captivity or adopted. There was an entire colony that just
disappeared, and later there were rumors of light-skinned, light-eyed
Indians in that area, IIRC. That goes back to a post by Wolfie some
time back, in which someone who thought he was a full-blood found out
much to his surprise and dismay that he had white genes.

Short of having genetic testing done, I guess NONE of us know with
absolute certainty what our heritage really is. But we CAN choose
what kind of human being we want to be.

no, the evil is in your guest doing monica. If you spent your time
calling for action on the over
five hundred missing and murdered native woman across the country.
Some one would be ever so grateful for your time I am sure. Use your
skills? Are you capable?
You seem to have all the advice for others, what about you monica? I
mean cutting and pasting
someone else's opinion is good and all. But, you are so quick to call
woman names, and it's not just
none natives and all the shades in between. The alt native archives
only speak for your online passive
aggressive attacks on nearly every woman posting! no matter what the
race you have them driven away.
I have reason to be here! I have a family to raise up that just
happen to be Native and there is nothing you
can do about it. You can try to do your evil work and go on recruiting
the vary people you claim to hate to
do help you with your evil cause.
monica, you lump people together as if the whole world is divided and
should stay that way. I am thankful
to see your true self bloom here on Alt Native. I am sad to see the
depths of you, I really am. You had so
much potential to do good things with your talent. Only to see it
wither and sink to you cavorting with your
sworn enemy, for the shear hatred you have for a handful of people.
Did you even have time to work on
your "article" on abuse when you were harassing and encouraging others
to harass and abuse the
elderly and disabled here on alt native? How many ways do people have
to try and explain it to you that it's
not ok. No matter who you think you are and where you come from in
today's world race would be the least
of our problems. You are asking everyone to take giant steps backwards
monica! I for one am not doing it.

I don't assign general blame to anyone for anything in war - except to
the leadership. Elected or 'not' - the price for being a Leader is to
be held responsible for the actions one's people are *led* into taking
collectively. In some ways, there is no real difference between *then*
and *now*.

What happens in any war is always heartbreaking when it comes to both
children and soldiers/warriors (many of whom are barely beyond being
children themselves). It is especially devastating in our wars where
soldiers must follow orders, no questions asked, and can't walk away
from an unjust war when they find out too late.

A boy/man i know here who came home from Iraq... he is a different
person than the boy i remember when he was growing up. He is no longer
'right in the head'. The last time i saw him - a year or so ago, he
was three-sheets-to-the-wind drunk, and kept 'hugging' me - (like a
child with a mother, not in a sexual way) - until my oldest grandson
came over and gently pulled him off of me because i couldn't hold the
weight of a grown man.

They 'molded' him, he said. Into what? I thought. And i wanted to cry
for his mother.

We have to think about these things.

So *now* is really no different than 1771. You can know things are
terribly wrong, but you feel powerless as an individual to change
anything on such a broad collective scale. And in the end, everyone is
damaged, and all you can do is try to take care of your own Walking
Wounded.

the other day, i took my man to get an m.r.i.
driving into the parking area, i saw a very young woman working with a
mobilized wheel chair and the lifting device.
in the chair, i saw a very young man.
totally paralyzed, not even able to hold his head up, it, too, was in
a device.
he was an iraqi war vet.
i bet neither of them were even 25 years old.
just kids.
children barely past the age of consent.
i sat and cried for them.

I did not want you or anyone else to think I had forgotten you....oh
noooooooooooo, far from it.

When you aligned yourself with a sexual predator, you gave yourself a
boost on my priority list. When someone sinks that low, I know
EXACTLY what I am dealing with, so I decided to do a deep dig.

I am still compiling megs of data into an understandable spreadsheet,
but I should have your Faux Indian page up by late next week.

I know what you have been doing on alt.native for at least TEN YEARS,
and you are one SICK PUPPY!

I read how you created, then killed off "Anuh1" ...that got you lots
of attention huh? SICK!!!!
I also know that the "Bravesheart" posts were coming from your
location too. You will be surprised at what an AOL network engineer
with 20 years experience can tell from a few little headers. How
fortunate that I happen to know one <BEG>

I am not going to waste time arguing with your sockpuppets on Usenet,
I am just going to put all the info on a website, mass mail the link
to our entire mailing list, and let people see for themselves what a
MAGGOT you really are!

You will continue to attack me and spread lies about me.... I know
that. It is the price of telling the truth about a LIAR like
you...you will spread yet more lies about me. Like DUH..that is all
on-line frauds like you do to create your characters. You are
running the Good Nic/Bad Nic scam, and I am going to prove it, once
and for all.

I have no intention of wasting my time responding to your many
sockpuppets. I am going to spend that time exposing you for what you
really are... a skanky, chicken hawk ANGLO PERVERT who has no morals
or values whatsoever! I really do not care what people think of me,
but your willingness to use a sexual predator's "anonymous" website as
ammunition tells me EVERYTHING I need to know about you. It also
guaranteed to you permanent spot on the web with the rest of the pervs
we have exposed.

I just wanted you to know your posts referencing "anonymous rumors"
about me, spread by a man who sold sex tours to Asia where raping
children is legal have insured that you and James/Bravesheart, etc.
will be publicly exposed as the fraud you are on a domain that gets
about 1500-2000 hits a day.

To Monica and the other REAL Indians on the forum ( both of you? )
alt.native was not "invaded" by a bunch of Witches...you were invaded
by one...possibly two people in the same household running a 1/2 dozen
AOL nics. Norah Runningwolf/Anuh1/Bravesheart/James, and a TON of
other sockpuppet accounts coming from her/their same TWO computers,
and this has been going on since AT LEAST 1999

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when did I post that ? still here even tho AOLs shuttin off there
service to usenet & we gotta go thru Google. Ridge posted
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From: braveshe...@aol.comnotrash (BravesHeart)
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Date: 23 Jan 2005 06:54:10 GMT
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Subject: hey - MIB & Ridge
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AOL 9.0 aint lettin me get on AOLs portal to usenet. Im on the other
cputer
right now to see if this posts. Since AOL is endin its service to
usenet we
can still post via Google groups , Ridge probly gotta acct there like
I do or
he can set up one. Meantime MIB I ansered your msg via Google on the
other cputer - dont no if its gonna post or not - had trouble gettin
anything
but "website not responding"
B.H.

So what is your point? My friend Jeff is also paralysed in
military. He is in wheelchair but never crying for it. The gov't
paid him out of all expensive. He has
the nurse working with him all the time. All he needs is friend like
me. I'm going to tell him I'm going to take him to mountain. I will
push the wheelchair to the top of
mountain.

Oops, make that "1998" I almost forgot "Wolfette3" and Anuh2 and
Anuh3 and Anuh4 .... and I am just getting into the old "furry"
posts All I can say is EEWWWWWWWWW

Butt you have white privilege because of all the atrocities your
ancestors committed.

anuh is dead.
she was never me,
her ip was out of mt judah, arkansas.
bravesheart's is out of georgia.
but thank you for the compliment.
who did you say you were again?
i forgot.
carry on, dearie. lol

thank you for the amusement.
you must not be all that bright.
my ips came out of slc, ogden,then kanab, on to mesquite, beaver dam,
and now kingman.
one or two ip's you say?
my, that must be one powerful company to own all those. lol
anuh's came out of arkansas, and bravesheart from georgia. lol
whadda dipshit!

What happened to bravesheart. He was having trouble with aol. He
disappeared and never came back.

Boy is she going to be having fun, spinning her wheels on NOTHING. :)

There is one thing i am pretty 'good' at, and that's identifying
people's 'voices' in their writing. Sure, it's not an exact science,
but it looks to me like it may be a lot more trustworthy than the
'mechanisms' she is using. For instance, i can spot Brojack under ANY
name, no matter what he's posting or where. A few others i've spotted,
but kept quiet about - what's the point in mentioning it?

Bravesheart (or should i say BRAVESHEART, haha - i kinda miss that
one :)) and Anuh and you had entirely different 'voices'. It doesn't
even matter if you 'change up the writing style'. You can't fake the
'voice', and she can't strip alt.native of the memory of Anuh no
matter what she says.

This one is going to be done in by her own tools.

Did you recognize debbie's voice as one of the anuhs? Eli and someone
else caught her at that. Then she was midnight sky lady and red sky at
morning. She tried to convince people it was me. That was when she led
the attack on antoinette.

Well, I don't know what that has to do with the scalping or genetic
testing. But ok. And you want me to be punished for being born
white, as if I purposefully set all the atrocities up and okayed
genocide just so I could buy nicer cars or something.

The fact is, even if I decided to take on 600 years of guilt and kill
myself because of it, that would not change the history, and it would
not make YOUR life any better. Beyond the emotional satisfaction you
would get from it, that is.

[...]

Oh great, the obsessive-compulsive shadow-ridden poster child for
alternate realities is back. She'll carry on, all right. And in her
megalomania, she'll be convinced oodles and gobs of people care.
What. Ever.

Oh, she *led* the attack on antoinette, did she? Strange how our
recollections differ. "Debbie did this, Debbie did that"... how
pathetic, Monica.

Didn't your mama ever teach you anything about loyalties?

I would never give up regular poster on alt.native to *you*, no matter
if they were red, black, yellow, white or even if they had a dozen
sockpuppets working in tandem, haha.

And regarding Anuh: whatever or whoever your warped mind would like to
imagine, there was only one Anuh, and that voice was truly beautiful.
That voice is missed here by many.

Btw, interesting how you bring up Eli, after how you treated him. You
keep bringing up the names of all the people you've burned over the
years as if they would EVER get on here and back you up. And why do
you think Bravesheart left? It was stated plain as day, the fighting
was too sickening to tolerate. You didn't bother to read that? (Yep, i
remember you saying that you didn't bother to read anyone's posts
unless they were about Anna Mae and Makah whaling). Come to think of
it... i am not even sure anyone should be held totally accountable for
what they believe while under your 'influence' - and before their
inevitable 'rude awakening'.

So why are you trying to help Guardian stir the pot?

Got excuses?

have to laugh when i read her.
what is she going to do to me?
will she burn down my house?
kill my animals?
further cripple my husband?
further cripple me?
put a pox on the metal in my body, omg!!!
i think not!!!
way too funny!!!
my family, my land, my place, has been blessed by much stronger than
that poor twisted soul will ever hope to be, and yes, they were
indian, who know what i am.
people who knew anuh, and corresponded to her offline, (and there
were a few), know i am not anuh, but it certainly is a compliment,
nor
am i bravesheart or james or whoever.
now, just what is this demented soul going to do to me?
that she claims all came from the same ONE computer or TWO is full
of
shit.
I alone had at least four or five different computers and locations
since i started posting here.
maybe more, who keeps count.
(oh, yeah, i forgot, bashby does, she has nothing better to do with
her time.
no wonder her business is going down the shitter.
she is too busy here bashing people to run it.)
from northern utah to southern nevada to southern utah to northern
arizona to here.
so her ip address "tracing" is seriously flawed.
people here know me, and i have told people what is what.
those who know me on and offline won't care what she says, anyone
else, i don't care.
i don't have a business, nor do i sell anything to poor misguided
culture vulture pagans.
oh, wait, i have a queen sized bed for sale, and a few shelf units.
lol
maybe i should put a few duck feathers on them? hahahahaha!!!!!!
yep yep, trim them with yarn, too, from the five and dime store.
oh, and print out a little saying found all over the net to tell how
"authentic" they are.
a jen u whine injun slept here. omg!!!
she has taken a few threads here, a few threads there, and made a
whole tapestry that does not hold up.
will she affect my life?
hell, no.
let her rant.
i have done no harm to her or to hers, or any other misguided,
culture
vulture, pagan.
jill, IF she said i said i was indian and that was my trash, IF she
did, lied.
it will all come back on them and i will not have to do anything, or
even know about it.
i am, however, filled with pity for someone so filled with hate, and
has so little in her life she has to try to harass an old lady.
she is still young, may she find peace in her soul before she loses
it.
if she hasn't already given it up.
such a pity, such a waste.

She doesn't my help. All of you are faux.

Faux what?

i am the flavor of the day? lol

I just remembered what is most annoying about you, Hope. You're always
making me laugh and spray koolaid everywhere. DAMMIT, girl... you've
got to stop doing that.

Wolfie du Jour??? Hee hee. We should come up with a good name for your
flavor. I'm sure it is one-of-a-kind. :)

You left something out. It must be hard for you to use the "n"
word. ;-p

And you spelled that wrong. It's F-O-E. But only in your warped
little minds.

It will be fun watching Buttsy try to prove we are all claiming to be
"real Indians" and trying to sell trinkets or fake ceremony to stupid
Anglos. And it will be sad watching you keep pissing on real Indian
values and teachings in order to get a few jabs in at a few online
posters.

You two go ahead with your "calling." Fight the good fight. Be all
you can be. Don't light a candle, just curse the darkness--real loud,
and repeatedly. It will be interesting to see what Spirit sends next
to answer the hyena calls.

All I know is, it's bound to be TART! *LMAO*

Mea culpa. I am deeply ashamed. *sincere look #48*

debbie was never anv.
anv was a friend to me until she died.
she lived in my judah arkansas, i even posted her obit here.
patrica paine, mt judah arkansas.
you have passed way over the line on this one, and you know it.
you disrespect the dead, drag their names through the hell of this
usenet group without conscience, you and your puppets, to aggrandize
yourself.
you disgust me.
you make me puke when you drag anuh through your pigsty mud.
have your anal inhaling butt biddy look up patricia paine, obits in
the arkansas obits.
she's the one so good at the computer.
NOT!!!!
too bad you never had a friend, monica.
but it is no wonder you do not.

Did you say that to lizzy?

Or did you say that to Shusli? That's debbie's trick. I have more
friends than you know real Indians. LOL! Debbie Moran isn't Indian
either. Just ask the People from Suquamish! Or Little Boston. She's so
white she glows in the dark!

and what has that got to do with you disrespecting anv?
and baiting your WHITE butt biddy to disrect her?

> Did you say that to lizzy?- Hide quoted text -

lizzy did not lie about anv, nor did she disrespect her.
you and your white butt biddy did.
talk about sniffing white butt, girl, you are over the top with this
bashby white gal.
wayne has nothing on you!!

shusli never disrespected anv.
you did.

but that will all come back on you both.

I'm not disrespecting anyone. I remember when eli and someone else
busted debbie for posting as anuh. If linking them together
disrespects anuh my apologies. Do you recognize debbie's voice in
this?

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.native/browse_thread/thread/e93de1df4197d77/f6c1caa07438737c?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=midnight+sky+lady#f6c1caa07438737c

Nothing but good comes back on me wolfie. You just don't know real rez
life.

no, i don't "recognize" the writing.
to my knowledge, debbie never stole anv's identity.
though you and your white butt biddy is trying to.

evil returns to the sender, monica.
rez life, white life, black life.
it is the way of it.
if only good came back to you, you would not be whining and attacking
so.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Yah..nd prior to *contact* we here on Turtle Island were as pure nd
*atrocity* free..Yep,that's right ahah..init Mon hon?

wayne george
~~~~~~~~~~

i miswrote this.
i SHOULD have said, wayne has nothing over you on what YOU say he has

You know what's weird? I wasn't around back then, so I have no idea
who these people were, but when I read the post by redskyinmorning
about Antoinette doing research on Indians through her vagina, my
first thought was, "Wow, that sounds just like monica!" *LOL*

Same use of non-capital letters to show disrespect, same obsession
with white women having sex with "our men," same use of a sexual slur--
except it was slut rather than whore.

Small world, eh?

Gee, There has always been attacking and whining. Just different
people. There was a time when you attacked two elves and wayne as
viciously as you are now doing to me. The only difference is it is
white women who are doing the attacking and have taken over. Take that
as you will.

I said that antoinette researched through her vagina. Debbie stole
that from me. LOL! Debbie isn't Indian but her husband is. She was
jealous although she did her share of research when she was younger.
Antoinette and other white women would come on here and brag about
their sex lives with brown idiots. Did they really think anyone would
be impressed?

You tell me! Antoinette and Debbie haven't posted here in a long time,
and you're STILL talking about it!

Debbie is STILL posting on here through you, lisa, and donna. She's
too cowardly to post without backup. She used to use Jason for that.
Some other friends and I will talk to her at the canoe journey.

Huh? Am I "channeling" someone without even being aware of it? How
very New Agey! Damn, can't it at least be someone famous from the past
or something cool like that?

You need "backup" to talk to her? How ironic.

actually, lizzy and shusli both are what i call john lennon people.
i loved john lennon because he was an idealist, and wanted so badly to
make the world better.
both of them want a better world, and unlike you, they don't care
about skin colors.

attack you?
no, i am replying to you.
take a look at what you have said to me.
take a look at who you are aligning yourself with.

remember "ghost" with demi moor, patrick swazey and whoopie goldberg?
when you were channeling debbie, did you get that chilly feeling and
all weak afterwards?
or doesn't that happen when they are alive?

you get what you give.

yup.

I don't think she ever got more than a foot in the door! I'm a
Gemini, so even if Debbie were a skinny "white butt" there is no room
at the inn, what with the good twin and evil twin in permanent
residence. And one of them is a pack rat. ;-p

I loved that movie though. I wish I could cry pretty like that. ;-)

Amazing.

monica thinks she can threaten good people away from the Canoe
Journey? isn't that all in the Spirit
of the gathering. Id LOL but it's a sick thought.
monica and her gang of thug wannabees skulking around for a victim.
Too bad monica is not sitting in
a honor seat but, that takes being an honorable person. Nope, monica
has to hunt down someone and
try to put her down. She has been practicing for weeks now! shoots too
bad Debbie has not posted at
Alt Native for how long? and monica still feels threatened by her.
tisk tisk tisk, nothing better to do? poor monica

Hmmmm. Would these be friends that others can see, or will they just
be talking 'through' you?