Would Tort Reform Lower Costs?

Medical tort reform is moving to the fore of the health care debate. On Sunday in The New York Times, former Senator Bill Bradley, Democrat of New Jersey, argued that one way to gain support of both Democrats and Republicans might be to combine universal coverage with tort reform. Mr. Bradley also suggested that medical courts with special judges could be established, similar to bankruptcy or admiralty courts.

On “This Week With George Stephanopoulos,” Senators Orrin G. Hatch, Republican of Utah, and John Kerry, Democrat of Massachusetts, seemed to agree that medical malpractice lawsuits are driving up health care costs and should be limited in some way. “We’ve got to find some way of getting rid of the frivolous cases, and most of them are,” Mr. Hatch said. “And that’s doable, most definitely,” Mr. Kerry replied.

But some academics who study the system are less certain. One critic is Tom Baker, a professor of law and health sciences at the University of Pennsylvania School of Law and author of “The Medical Malpractice Myth,” who believes that making the legal system less receptive to medical malpractice lawsuits will not significantly affect the costs of medical care. He spoke with the freelance writer Anne Underwood.

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A lot of people seem to have taken up the cause of tort reform. Why isn’t it included in the health care legislation pending on Capitol Hill?

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Because it’s a red herring. It’s become a talking point for those who want to obstruct change. But [tort reform] doesn’t accomplish the goal of bringing down costs.

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Why not?

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As the cost of health care goes up, the medical liability component of it has stayed fairly constant. That means it’s part of the medical price inflation system, but it’s not driving it. The number of claims is small relative to actual cases of medical malpractice.

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But critics of the current system say that 10 to 15 percent of medical costs are due to medical malpractice.

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That’s wildly exaggerated. According to the actuarial consulting firm Towers Perrin, medical malpractice tort costs were $30.4 billion in 2007, the last year for which data are available. We have a more than a $2 trillion health care system. That puts litigation costs and malpractice insurance at 1 to 1.5 percent of total medical costs. That’s a rounding error. Liability isn’t even the tail on the cost dog. It’s the hair on the end of the tail.

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You said the number of claims is relatively small. Is there a way to demonstrate that?

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We have approximately the same number of claims today as in the late 1980s. Think about that. The cost of health care has doubled since then. The number of medical encounters between doctors and patients has gone up — and research shows a more or less constant rate of errors per hospitalizations. That means we have a declining rate of lawsuits relative to numbers of injuries.

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Do you have numbers on injuries and claims?

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The best data on medical errors come from three major epidemiological studies on medical malpractice in the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s. Each found about one serious injury per 100 hospitalizations. There hasn’t been an epidemiological study since then, because people were really persuaded by the data and it’s also very expensive to do a study of that sort. These data were the basis of the 1999 report from the Institute of Medicine, “To Err Is Human.”

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And what percent of victims make claims?

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Those same studies looked at the rate of claims and found that only 4 to 7 percent of those injured brought a case. That’s a small percentage. And because the actual number of injuries has gone up since those studies were done — while claims have remained steady — the rate of claims is actually going down.

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So the idea that there are lots of frivolous lawsuits is . . .

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Ludicrous.

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In those cases that are brought, are jury awards excessive?

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There are already caps on awards in many states. These tend to be on non-economic damages — not medical expenses or lost wages, but typically on pain and suffering. The first was in California in the 1970s. There is pretty good research on that, showing it reduced medical liability payments. These caps vary from state to state, but they’re generally set around $250,000 to $500,000.

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Many people would think that a quarter-million to a half-million dollars is a lot of money for pain and suffering.

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When California adopted its cap in the mid-1970s, it set it at $250,000. That doesn’t mean everyone got that much. It was the maximum. But that was considered a fair amount at the time. Since then, think how much inflation has eaten into that. These caps typically don’t index for inflation.

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So a patient can get reimbursed for medical costs, but they’re limited for pain and suffering.

A. They get reimbursement of medical costs in principle. But in fact, they don’t, because the lawyer has to be paid. These cases can cost $100,000 to $150,000 to bring, so the patient has to deduct that amount from any award.

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Why are these cases so expensive?

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You need expert witnesses who must be compensated for their time, which is valuable. You need depositions, which are expensive. You have to hire investigators. You have to pay your junior staff. It’s not worth bringing a suit if the potential award is less.

Imagine you go to the emergency room with appendicitis. For whatever reason, they fail to diagnose it. Your appendix bursts, and you spend a couple weeks in the hospital. I’ve had lawyers tell me they would not take a case like that, even if it’s a slam-dunk. The damages wouldn’t be enough — medical expenses, maybe a month of lost salary, although the patient might have short-term disability insurance that would cover a large part of that. It’s not enough to justify going to court.

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So you’re saying that a case has to be serious to be worth trying.

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The medical malpractice system only works for serious injuries. What it doesn’t work for is more moderate ones. Lawyers discourage people from bringing suits if their injuries are not serious in monetary terms — a poor person or an older person who can’t claim a lot in lost wages. That’s why obstetrician-gynecologists pay such high premiums. If you injure a baby, you’re talking about a lifetime-care injury. Gerontologists’ premiums are exceedingly low.

That’s the reason I say if people are serious about tort reform, they should improve compensation for moderate injuries. Nobody likes that idea, by the way. They say it would make the system more expensive, not less expensive. More people would bring claims. That says to me that the critics are not serious about tort reform.

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But it’s not just the cost of premiums and litigation. What about the charge that it causes doctors to practice “defensive medicine,” ordering tests that are expensive and unnecessary?

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A 1996 study in Florida found defensive medicine costs could be as high as 5 to 7 percent. But when the same authors went back a few years later, they found that managed care had brought it down to 2.5 to 3.5 percent of the total. No one has a good handle on defensive medicine costs. Liability is supposed to change behavior, so some defensive medicine is good. Undoubtedly some of it may be unnecessary, but we don’t have a good way to separate the two.

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Tell me more about the 1996 study.

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It was published in The Quarterly Journal of Economics by Stanford economist Daniel Kessler and Dr. Mark McClellan, who was head of the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services under President George W. Bush. For two types of heart disease — heart attacks and ischemic heart disease — the authors found that 5 to 7 percent of the additional costs in Florida, compared to other states with lower medical malpractice liability, could be attributed to defensive medicine. This was based on 1980s data.

Using that estimate, some politicians used to say that medical malpractice cost the system $50 billion a year. But you can’t blindly say that all diseases are the same as heart disease, and if you want a nationwide estimate, you can’t say every state is the same as Florida. Furthermore, the second study, published in 2002 in The Journal of Public Economics, found that much of the difference disappeared as managed care took hold in Florida in the 1990s.

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But many doctors complain about having to practice defensive medicine.

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Doctors will say that. But when you dig down, you find that what’s really happening is that doctors tend to do what other doctors around them do. They go along with the prevailing standard of care in their region — which in many cases isn’t even a state, but a city or county.

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If medical malpractice doesn’t explain the high costs of our health-care system, what does?

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A variety of things. The American population is aging. We’ve had advances in technology that are expensive. We’re also a rich nation, and the richer you get, the more money you spend on health care. And compared to other countries, we have heavy administrative costs from the private-insurance system.

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If it’s not true that medical malpractice is driving the high cost of medical care in this country, why won’t the argument go away?

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It makes sense to people intuitively — in part, because they’ve been told it so often. And it’s a convenient argument for those who want to derail the process. Maybe it’s a deep political game. Maybe they’re raising it to say, we’ll back off tort reform if you back off the public option.

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What about former Senator Bill Bradley’s idea that medical courts with special judges should be established?

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Mr. Bradley has been backing tort reform for as long as I can remember, so this is hardly a compromise for him. I’m not saying medical courts would be a bad idea, as long as they’re not set up in a way that insulates medical providers from responsibility. That’s a big caveat.

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What about Senator John Kerry’s assertion that it’s “doable” to rid the system of frivolous lawsuits?

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I guess it’s doable because there aren’t very many frivolous suits.

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We need to force Republicans to red this article 100 times every day for the next year.

Seriously, the folks that claim they want health care reform just by capping lawsuits do not know what they’re talking about…

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I do not believe tort reform is a red herring even though I agree with your assertion that medical practice lawsuits are not a major component of health care costs. Our fee for service pricing model coupled with medical practice liabilties combine to create incentive to overtest patients. It is this preverse incentive to test more regardless of effectiveness which is at the root of our runaway health care costs. The House (Obama) plan reforms neither fee for service, nor medical malpractice, and consequently will fail to contain health care costs. For more of my thoughts on this matter, please visit my blog at publicpolicydialogue.blogspot.com.

Is the author a lawyer or a physician. I would guess a lawyer. This article belongs in the business section. Its not science or health. Between patients demands for unnecessary tests and defensive medicine there are wasted significant resources

“Here’s an industry that loudly protests the high cost of liability insurance and the injustice of our tort system and yet needs extensive lobbying to embrace a simple technique to save up to 100,000 people.” (David Goldhill in the current Atlantic).

Tort reform is absolutely a red herring. There aren’t even fact-based anecdotes to support it.

Physicians want tort reform and have put this at the top of their agenda. If you want to know what is driving up the costs of medicine, you have to look at the number of tests physicians are forced to order to cover themselves in case of a rare or untoward event. The statistics fail to account for
how this defensive mindset affects every specialty.
With Tort reform, lawyers will have to look toward another
parasitic stream of revenue.

Bravo to Tom Baker and Anne Underwood for this excellent and informative piece.

With respect to so-called “health courts,” it’s also worth noting that such alternative systems are costly, //tinyurl.com/mk4uf8 terribly unfair to injured patients, //tinyurl.com/mgumd2 and unconstitutional. //tinyurl.com/mk8zr4

Mr. Baker is absolutely correct. Medical malpractice lawsuits are merely a tiny cost in the overall cost of health care services in the United States.

The U.S. Constitution gives citizens the right to civil trials for damages they have suffered at the hands of another party. The rabid tort reform crowd, which consists of hyper-profitable insurance companies and their GOP beneficiaries, would truncate this civil right..

Most people who are injured or harmed by the negligence of their doctors do not sue. Many are buried without the doctor’s error ever coming to light. Many other injured persons do not want to go through the expense, humiliation, uncertainty and terror of a trial with a rich insurance corporation on the other side fighting them tooth, claw, dollar and expert.

People are being harmed. Many people die from prescription errors and physician’s mistakes, from infections contracted in the hospital, from the wrong limb being amputated, from misdiagnoses. One man here is now paralyzed because the hospital did not correctly interpret an x-ray and sent him home after a car accident. An alcoholic physician (now suspended) sewed together a woman’s intestine after a hysterectomy, causing the backup of feces and much damage. In another case, a young man died of internal bleeding largely because the physician refused to listen to the expressed concerns of the nurse.

When a person is injured by the negligence of another, the injured person can sue for damages. Doctors and hospitals should not be free from accountability for their mistakes and negligence.

the fact that insurance and drug companies are for profit are the biggest factors contributing to the outrageous cost of healthcare in america. frivolous lawsuits however are not innocuous and certainly play a part. at the very least they drive up the costs that doctors must pay in malpractice insurance, the cost of which will get passed on to consumers. in some cases the charges will fall into the insurance companies’ allowable range in other instances it will not. potential litigants need to think twice before bringing caes. making them responsible for the defendants legal costs in the event the case is found to have no merit is one way to achieve this.

I beg to differ. Did you stop to consider the unnecessary testing that is done because of the concern for a potential lawsuit? I don’t think that malpractice insurance and large lawsuits alone drive up medical costs. It’s the wider ramifications and the culture of fear that physicians in states without tort reform have about potential lawsuits. As a physician in training, I cannot tell you how many times I have heard about the need to practice CYA medicine, i.e., COVER YOUR ASS. Ever wonder why everyone gets a CT scan as they enter the door of the ER? Obviously, this is a little harder to quantify in terms of actual costs, but just compare the rates with which expensive imaging, laboratory, and other diagnostic tests are ordered in states with and without tort reform.

From what I’ve heard, many hospitals frequently just roll over when challenged with a lawsuit and pay to settle, which just encourages more lawsuits. It would be interesting to see if there is a difference in number of lawsuits brought by hospital against willingness of hospitals to fight these kinds of claims.

Anne,
I don’t know where you are getting your information, but tort reform is NOT a red herring—because it doesn’t just represent the cost of malpractice insurance, trials , and awards..
It also includes the 25% of tests and procedures that physicians in surveys say they order in the practice of defensive medicine. That is a huge amount of money—
$200 billion dollars a year.
To not include that in the money saved with tort reform is a major error.

Where do you get your information?
“Not very many frivolous lawsuits.”???!!

70% of malpractice suits result in zero payout.

Do you work for the DNC?

The person being interviewed doesn’t know what he’s talking about, and its evidenced by his example of appendicitis specifically.

For instance, if a patient presents with an atypical abdomen and appendicitis is on the differential but certainly not at the top, what if it ruptures while the patient is undergoing the appropriate work-up? Would you consider that to be malpractice? Would you prefer that we assume everyone with a stomach-ache has appendicitis until definitively proven otherwise?

Please don’t believe tort reform has anything to do with lowering medical costs and helping the public. It’s about doctors playing God and having their mistakes covered up. I work in health care in California and whenever I see the effect tort reform has had on our patients I want to vomit.

It’s not the value of the settlements and legal costs, it’s the extra tests and workups we do because of the fear of lawsuits, and the lack of financial disincentives to patient or physician to do these tests. I’m a hand surgeon. several months ago I had a patient whom I took to the OR for a minor hand procedure done under a local anesthesia, the safest kind. After the procedure in the recovery room the patient complained of a headache, which had started before the procedure but was now worse. It turns out he had sustained a “closed head injury”, essentially a concussion, a couple of months before and had been having headache as part of his symptoms. He was being followed by a neurologist at a major metropolitan teaching hospital. He had been thouroughly worked up, was placed on one anti-seizure medication and was being followed. after the headache wouldn’t go away after an hour or two, my anesthesiologist called the neurologist who told him just to check a level on the seizure medication, and have the patient follow -up with him soon. He wasn’t worried about anything drastic. As closing time at the surgery center approached the anesthesiologist still decided to send the patient to our hospitals emergency room across town for another workup rather than let the patient go home and see his neurologist later as suggested. He also made him take the trip by ambulance rather than let his family drive the 3 miles. At the ER of course he generated thousands of $ in workup charges including another CT scan just to be sure. All defensive medical related work. Everything was normal of course. There was no disincentive to my anesthesiologist and probably very little to the patient to do this, and the doctor didn’t want to take ANY risk. Thats where a lot of the money goes a million times a day.

How can reforming the system by which frivolous lawsuits that result in hundreds of billions in legal fees, high malpractice insurance premiums and settlements not bring down health care costs?

Isn’t that like saying if the Yankees got rid of C.C. Sabathia and A-Rod, their payroll wouldn’t go down?

InTraining (#9) asks: “Did you stop to consider the unnecessary testing that is done because of the concern for a potential lawsuit?”

Did you stop to actually read the article? Read answers 13 and 14. Aw, heck, I’ll save you the effort: cost increase of 3%. And you’re a physician in training? Shudder.

Same goes for Blackcat (#5).

It’s an informative Q&A, and I especially appreciate it because I’ve been wondering from time to time just how significant malpractice really is in the overall healthcare context. (Of course, good luck getting average opponents to reform to give this much attention to the facts of any particular issue, much less the underlying data.)

This next part isn’t discussed much at all, and it might not work for every plaintiff or trial lawyer out there, but I’m curious whether anyone has experimented with a claims process that is essentially non-adversarial and might be designed for the bulk of cases. Maybe it’s a pipe dream, but it seems like a lot of times there could be essential alignment between the parties that unfortunately someone was hurt by the care they received, and they should not bear the financial burdens of getting them better. The problem is with an adversarial system everyone goes into a lockdown mode, which makes the claims process costly and erratic, and often unsatisfactory for everyone except the trial lawyers. If there were an independent board in charge of investigating facts and making a neutral decision about what happened, with input from the parties, and how to allocate the costs of care among the parties (or their insurers), it might open the system up to improving the provision of healthcare generally. It also might take some of the wackiness out of the system, and make claims resolution more satisfactory for patients and more predictable for providers. Could something like this be done through voluntary provider-patient contracts? Perhaps there could be enforceability problems if people didn’t have a real choice, but some patients, if given a real choice, might well opt into such a claims system if they saw a benefit. For instance, a system along these lines could lower insurance premiums for everyone concerned, by making payouts more predictable. It could cover the “middle” cases addressed in the Q&A, where the trial lawyers don’t see a big enough payoff to take the case. Third, all the data accumulated through the claims process could feed back to providers more systematically, thereby allowing for improved care across the board. A lot of times that may not happen now where settlements are confidential.

This has to be one of the most biased and inaccurate articles i have ever read. The fact that it is published in the health section is embarrassing. As an ER physician i can tell you that i and everyone I work with order thousands of dollars of unnecessary testd EVERY SINGLE DAY in the practice of defensive medicine. I order lab work, CT tests, MRI’s and expnesive physician consults not because i think that they are truly indicated but bc i know that if i do not order them and my patient happens to be that 1/100,000 case some scum bag lawyer will be waiting at the hospital doors to sue. There are no reprocussions for frivolous law-suits and therefore no risk to filing them. The appy case was absurd because i can tell you from experience there are hundreds of lawyer out there who would take on a case like that in a heart-beat.
When a physician with no prior suits has to pay $50k/yr for mal practice insurance i can guarantee you that IT IS DRIVING UP COSTS. How many people can i buy insurance for with $50,000 and I am just one physician.
i would like a follow up to this article where the writer actually has their facts straight!

I am a pathologist. Today I signed out 40 cases. In 5 cases I used complicated quasi-legal language and ordered multiple additional studies just to cover my behind. My only goal was (1) to confuse the lawyers, and (2) to convince the lawyers that dragging me to court is waste of their time. Note, that I am teach other doctors, and I will instruct my trainee to do the same.

Fear of lawsuit is pervading medical culture in so many ways that at the moment lawyers are oftentimes dictating what is and what isn’t the standard of care.

Tort reform is a MUST if you are serious about containing the costs.

Tom Baker, a professor of law and health sciences, most likely never took care of patients in his life. He has no credibility.

If medical malpractice doesn’t explain the high costs of our health-care system, what does?

A variety of things. The American population is aging. We’ve had advances in technology that are expensive. We’re also a rich nation, and the richer you get, the more money you spend on health care. And compared to other countries, we have heavy administrative costs from the private-insurance system.

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So basically we don’t have a problem? Or we should become a poorer nation?

I have never met anyone who felt they were subjected to unnecessary tests. I have known many whose ailments went undetected by a doctor’s failure to property diagnose or order the proper tests. My sister died shortly after she was told her cancer was in remission and the pain she was experiencing was all in her head.

Why do so many readers not understand science? Reasoning by anecdote is not science, and it’s scary to see doctors “rebut” this article by providing anecdotes. If you can’t cite a peer-reviewed study contradicting the results of the study mentioned here, then what exactly are you contributing?

Unless you just don’t believe in the scientific method. If that’s the case, what kind of doctor are you?

It is obvious that the both the interviewer and interviewee do not know what they are talking about. If you are curious about the whether tort reform affect the total saving, why don’t they ask how much doctors have to pay yearly in premium to cover for lawsuit. an ob-gyn can pay +300,000 dollars per year in certain areas like florida. Now this is dead cost per year a doctor has to pay to cover for potential lawsuits. Guess how much more extra testings/ imagings he/she would have to order in order to prevent having his/her name tainted in a lawsuit. All of these extra costs precede the possibility of an actual mistake, thus eventual lawsuit occuring. So if you are arguing that the final bill of cost from total yearly litigation is small, you are neglecting the major impact from the fear of lawsuits on the total system. Before you decide to write a discussion about malpratice, you should talk to a doctor, who has to deal daily with the consequence of malpractice premium, rather than a lawyer, who spent his life sucking blood from the system.
Lai, MD

Unnecessary testing is driven far more by our pay for service system than it is by defensive medicine, which is just the excuse for excessive procedures that earn the doctors additional fees.

The first thing that needs to be done about tort reform is for hospitals to clean up their act.