More Ubuntu slopware USB issues

I say apparently because the silly hobbyware won't actually let you see
what's in the folder - or delete the folder; ownership is now assigned
to root.

http://www.angelfire.com/linux/dfs0/Ubuntu_formatting_slop.jpg

Note: no hobbyware chumps allowed to whine about opening a terminal and
doing 'sudo nautilus' or some such idiocy.

I could manage my files before, so why do they now belong to root?

In fact, why did it save the files in the first place? I was formatting
the drive - nobody who formats a drive expects anything to remain
afterwards.

And in another display of incompetence, if you format the drive back to
FAT, it deletes the 'Lost + Found' folder that belongs to root that it
wouldn't let you delete before.

MS is doomed by the confusing, inconsistent idiot-ware.

Instead of spending a minute to search information on the lost+found
directory (present in most UNIX file systems) you decided to troll COLA with
one more post (of very many) that is nothing more than stupidity and
ignorance from start to finish.

Truly pathetic!

...you really have no clue at all what's going on here.

[deletia]

--
Sophocles wants his cut. |||
/ | \

Don't have any idea what DFS originally wrote -- but *catfish* has proved
to be a great tool for finding specific files on my backup hard drives. A
tiny amount of research on Google can reveal many, many great utilities
for Linux. All free and also free.

--
RonB
Registered Linux User #498581
CentOS 5.5 or VectorLinux Deluxe 6.0

You changed the subject and lashed out at me? That's not like you,
Lusotec. I must've hit a sensitive spot, and this time you couldn't
blame it on the hardware.

The issues remain:

I could manage my files before, so why do they now belong to root in a
'Lost+Found' folder?

Why did it save the files in the first place? Nobody expects or even
wants a drive format to retain existing data.

It's totally, totally incompetent: as a user I can't delete the bogus
'Lost + Found' folder (again, disregarding the silly sudo thingy), but I
can format the disk and this time it gets deleted.

Everything about the process is bogus and backward.

This! Is! Linux!

In this case you're exactly right.

I have no idea why Ubuntu would create such a folder during a format,
assign it to root, but then let a user delete it on the next format.

It's just unintuitive college-level crapware, poorly conceived, poorly
designed, and poorly tested.

> [deletia]

[dementia]

Dear God.

Do you have to work at being *this* stupid?

Mart

--
"We will need a longer wall when the revolution comes."
--- AJS, quoting an uncertain source.

Rest assured: you files are gone. The lost+found directory is empty
and just a feature of the ext4 file system. Look it up if you want to
know more.

It didn't save anything.

Reformat with what filesystem?

--
If we could perpetually do blowjobs to every guy on earth, we would
own the world. And at the same time have our hands free.
~ Samantha

He will be as stupid as his trolling requires him to be. Also see his
silly post about the Computer Janitor program in Ubuntu.

--
There are only 10 types of people in this world: those who understand
binary, and those who don't...

Nothing stupid at all about my Lost+Found post. I was a tiny bit
uninformed, that's all.

And I don't troll. Ever. Only goobs like Justin and 7 and Rex Ballard
do that.

Very apropos given the kualitee of the amateurish Ubuntu hobbyware.

I did look it up before I posted the first time. Googled Linux lost +
found (no quotes). But I didn't read much - just saw a bunch of victims
wondering "how to retrieve data from a lost+found directory" and "how to
access the lost+found folder" and so on.

So I was wrong about it containing my old files. It isn't the first
time I was wrong, and it won't be the last. But it's a very rare
occurrence, as you know.

I see that now.

But it created a folder - with root permissions - which I couldn't read
(without sudo), but then I was able to delete it on the next format.

I tried FAT only.

No he was born that way. Of course the fact that if you "accidentally"
format a USB drive in Windows then the files are LOST. Good on you
doofus - another Windows "feature"....and people PAY for that crap....

That's a feature of the file system you chose.

A user has no direct access to devices. Probably ubuntu has set some
policy rules that grants you direct access and thus you can format it and
"delete" it.

No. You have just no idea what is going on.

I could have explained exactly how your entire post is complete nonsense and
how you insulting others for your ignorance is plain stupid, but why bother?
You only objective was trolling and in this case anyone with a minimal of
knowledge could see how very wrong you were.

Regards.

Amazingly pathetic.

Well, that's what you get when a VB coder starts looking at things at the
system level.

--
You possess a mind not merely twisted, but actually sprained.

Exactly! This! Is! Not! Windows! This! Is! Not! FAT! This! Is! Not! NTFS!

This! Is! A! Professional! File! System!

In the crazed upside-down world of this "DFS" Windows user, a valuable
file-system feature is denigrated as "bogus and backward".

And you thought his Ubuntu bug reports were stupid!

As an aside, what the hell does this guy do for his day job?

--
If I allowed "next $label" then I'd also have to allow "goto $label",
and I don't think you really want that... :-)
-- Larry Wall in <1991Mar11.2...@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov>

Poor DFS. He doesn't even remember the FMT0001.CHK (can't recall the exact
name) of the files "recovered" during a DOS CHKDISK, a poorer implementation
of the UNIX lost+found feature.

This range right up there with his "If it weren't for Windows, none of you
would be posting to the internet". In other words, evidence of an ignorant,
highly parochial world-view.

DFS -- The Ugly American

--
The story of the butterfly:
"I was in Bogota and waiting for a lady friend. I was in love,
a long time ago. I waited three days. I was hungry but could not go
out for food, lest she come and I not be there to greet her. Then, on
the third day, I heard a knock."
"I hurried along the old passage and there, in the sunlight,
there was nothing."
"Just," Vance Joy said, "a butterfly, flying away."
-- Peter Carey, BLISS

Where is "Hadron" to "school" DFS on UNIX file-systems?

--
Even Ahlstrom had the balls to admit he got hit by grub errors and
kernel refusal to load nvidia drivers after an update.
-- "Hadron" <i9qnq4$5rl$1...@news.eternal-september.org>

Sweep floors?

--
VI VI VI The editor of the beast.
"Microsoft has vast resources, literally billions of dollars in cash, or liquid assets reserves.
Microsoft is an incredibly successful empire built on the premise of market dominance with low-quality goods."
-- Former White House adviser Richard A. Clarke --

With DumbFor$ure it comes naturally. Probably from years of abuse of banned
substances. :-)

Now, now! You know very well that the Hadron M$ zealot only "schools"
Linux users & advocates. He never corrects or schools any of his fellow M$
zealots & wintrolls.

--
Shell - The hardest part of Linux, usually opened with Bash.

Isn't your credo 'research before you post'?

Rather a fine example of mindless trolling. As is calling Ubuntu
'amateurish hobbyware'.

--
Engineering: where the noble semi-skilled laborers execute the vision of those
who think and dream. Hello, Ooompa-Loompas of science.
~ Sheldon Cooper

Tsk, tsk! Oh, dear...there you go again, teasing a dumb M$ zealot with the
word "free". :-)

--
FireFox - Why, wtf did he do?

Laughably so!

--

Well, if the toy operating system Micro$oft Windwoes does not do it,
it's not worth doing, right?

Programs in Visual Basic, right? I guess that makes him feel like a
real computer heavyweight.

No, it's "take a cheap shot from whatever angle there is".

Another bald-faced Dumfsck lie. Documented.

another useless fscking post from chrisv. documented.

"chrisv" is a liar. "chrisv" is a piece of shit.

a turd like you is a real lightweight. a piece of shit is morally and
intellectually superior to you.

Well, you do.

What are you waffling on about now Liarsuck? Showing off again? Trying
to be one of the "Lads". Schooling is reserved for idiots like you who
make outrageous claims and are proved to be clueless. I know you know
about LInux but what shows you up is when you tell lies about others
knowledge. You're so eager to show off and suck up to other "advocates"
you get all excited and forget your limitations and previous lies.

And that is why almost everyone here ridiculous you on a daily basis.

More systems use ntfs and fat "professionally" then do extN.

Why do you insist of making yourself look like an idiot in post after
post after post?

Tell us Liarsuck, do you use ReiserFS "professionally" too?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAH!.............. that Professionals don't use!
Most "Professionals" use NTFS, you moron!

Gortard, you're an idiot!, there are lot's of free programs to recover your
precious shit!

Changing topics again Chris Ahlstrom?

You really are a creepy suck up.

The typical GNU/Linux hobbyist wipes the floor with those incompetent
Windows "professionals" and you know it Cloggy!

Just take a look at how I wiped the floor time and again with that
incompetent "professional" lunatic called "Sed" on http://Webwereld.nl
and "Sed" is probably *your* trolling nym on that site.

The incompetent "professional" claimed that it couldn't even get the
kindergarten distribution Ubuntu GNU/Linux to work.

Meaning he is ether extremely incompetent or dishonest and even more
likely both.

ReiserFS was the standard fs in SUSE Linux 9x (which is considered
ancient by now) and it was light years ahead of that steaming pile of
sh1t called NTFS.

Ain't it time to "defrag" your "professional" NTFS?

"Professional" oh the irony :-D

Back in the bin bucket you nymshifting jerk :-p

--
|_|0|_| Marti T. van Lin, alias ML2MST
|_|_|0| Registered GNU/Linux user 513040
|0|0|0| http://www.soundclick.com/martivanlin

And this goes to show you dont use desktop Linux.

You do know a lot of distros set up auto disk checks at system start in
the fstab which can take hours to complete don't you? Yes. At system
start. I bet ANY professional Linux here has been caught by that when
turning their machine on and needing a fast boot up.... IF they havent
disabled it that is.

Poor Smarti.

No they don't - they use MS Office. Double moron....

Oh no. Another post. Another screw up.

And MSO runs on what Gortard?

Sigh....

You beat me to it.

The Linux retards seem to be out in force today.

I am beginning to wonder if Gordon is institutionalised. He certainly
isn't very bright.

I'm sure that far more use VFAT, Oh MP3 Listener.

--
The older a man gets, the farther he had to walk to school as a boy.

Yeah, like you'll probably find a lot of 'what is system volume
information and how do I access/remove it' when you do a Google search
for 'system volume information'. Big deal.

> So I was wrong about it containing my old files. It isn't the first
> time I was wrong, and it won't be the last. But it's a very rare
> occurrence, as you know.

Yeah, sure.

> I see that now.
>
> But it created a folder - with root permissions - which I couldn't
> read (without sudo), but then I was able to delete it on the next
> format.

That's how it works. Only root (or a user with the relevant sudo
privs) has access to lost+found. Just like you have to be root (or
have sudo privs) to format a drive. Nothing weird or backward going on
at all.

> I tried FAT only.

Duh, well of course you won't get a lost+found then.

Sorry DFS, but your entire OP was worthless. But don't worry, we're
used to that over here :-p

--
You just fulfilled the first rule of law enforcement: make sure when
your shift is over you go home alive. Here endeth the lesson.
~ Malone, The Untouchables

The last time you called someone a "moron" it was because you had zero clue
how a browser string identified the OS the person was running the browser
on.

This time you're calling someone a 'double moron' when you are too stupid to
realize the difference between a file system and a office suite.

He also doesn't seem to know much about the Bible.

The 9th Commandment (8th for RC and some Lutheran)

"You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor"

Beautifully put. Gordon is laughed at by other "advocates" too. Not
ridiculed and sniggered at like Ahlstorm is when he sucks up but plain
old laughed at.

Sure as hell you don't.

pass-num checks for dirty filesystems and only performs a full fsck
when needed, ie. when your disk is 'dirty'.

The regular filesystem checks you are referring to are controlled by a
setting on the filesystem itself, and can be changed with the tune2fs
command.

Neither fs check takes 'hours' to complete, and both are an integral
part of what I call a professional system.

What does this have to do with defragging anyway?

--
Age is not a particularly interesting subject. Anyone can get old.
All you have to do is live long enough.
~ Groucho Marx

Who's "Cloggy"?

"SED", is that the name of your new boyfriend, who pounds your ass till you
can't walk anymore? and treated you like the helpless little bitch that you
are.

This man is right, getting a kindergarten Ubuntu freeze_O_matic distro to
actually work, is a miracle!
The good part of this distro is, that it has Miguel de Icasa's mono!

"Reiser" isn't that the guy who brutally murdered his wife?
He seems to be Bubba's bitch now, are you envious (s)Marti? ;-)

b.t.w.
Do you really think your lame block sender list will filter me?
Bawawawawahahahaha!

...and this goes to show that you don't use desktop Linux.

[deletia]

--
"Microsoft looks at new ideas, they don't evaluate whether
the idea will move the industry forward, they ask, |||
'how will it help us sell more copies of Windows?'" / | \

-- Bill Gates

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Oh, another doozy from the Hadron M$ zealot!

Only in the Hadron M$ fanboi's "mind". LOL

--
vi - An ancient Linux text editor invented by the Romans, commonly
called 'six'.

> Hadron quacked:

That's sig-worthy material from the "true Linux advocate".

Poor Larry. What a lying idiot shill for the Micro$oft Corp, he is.

Since I've been using Ubuntu, I have NEVER had any startup disk check
take hours. I'll have to time it to be precise, but most of them don't
seem to last even a minute long.

That doesn't mean that I won't ever have a disk check that lasts for two
or more hours, but I've been using Ubuntu since 2008 or so and not had a
disk check that lengthy.

Consider yourself among the fortunate.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1467739

Hours? On a desktop? Just a few minutes on a 250 Gb ext3 partition.

--
What this country needs is a good five dollar plasma weapon.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1467739

<snipped>

You are at work, right? What excuse do you have for being here during
working hours. Do you sneak around and go to the NG(s) when no one is
looking? I bet your neck hurts from looking around when someone comes
into your area. I bet you pretend that you are doing work. You would
never survive in an Agile project managed programming department.

Added to the ever-growing list of Gortard blunders!

He probably has a netbook hidden somewhere on his janitor's cart.

Hey Ahlstrom, we need another roll of tp over in stall 6 and the urinal
in the men's room is overflowing again.

Holy Cow "Hadron" you prove once again that you are full of shit and
don't even know the distinction between defragmentation and a file
system check.

Ubuntu GNU/Linux, which I use as my default OS, checks the integrity of
the file system every 30 bootstraps. It /never/ defragmentates, because
fragmentation is /no issue/ under /any/ "native" GNU/Linux supported
file system.

GNU/Linux FS are based on inodes /not/ the ancient File Allocation Table.

Fsck is the equivalent of MS-DOS CHKDSK /not/ DEFRAG, you clueless
clown! And in fact it /only/ takes a couple of minutes, /not hours/ like
you claim.

Duh! the incompetent jerk doesn't even know the the distinction.

What a surprise <yawn>

He has no excuse.

When he whined to his boss about the mean "trolls" on cola, I guarantee
he forgot to mention he posts here all throughout the working day, while
shirking his work responsibilities and billing full hours to his clients.

It's called "Linux advocacy".

heh!

If he scrubs real fast, he'll have time to get a cola post in between
cleaning the men's and women's restrooms...

> Once upon a midnight dreary, as I laboured lone& weary, TomB on

Unbelievable isn't it?

The incompetent imbecile doesn't even know his head from is arse.

So much for "The Debian GNU/Linux user"

ROTFLMAO :-)

I can just picture him knocking on the women's restroom door and
yelling: "Any cunts in there?" "I'm coming in to refill the sanitary
napkin machine".

Since when did NTFS start using the File Allocation Table?

Pot. Kettle. Black.

LOL, Quack proved time and again that /etc/fstab is a total mystery to
the incompetent know nothing.

Hehehe, I'm not the one making up this restarted laughable nonsense. In
case you've missed it: I have completely removed /every/ instance of
Microsoft Windows CrapOS on /all/ my machines (including Virtual instances).

He's a "Debian GNU/Linux user" and the sky is red, the water is purple
and the moon is brown.

Pathetic, just simply pathetic ;-)

"Hadron" and fstab. The troll doesn't have the slightest clue what the
hell he's talking about.

Init? (oops)

:-D

Having fun on identica.ca, Marti?

The real fun is about to begin!!!

Just more Hadron bullshit.

--
RonB
Registered Linux User #498581
CentOS 5.5 or VectorLinux Deluxe 6.0

Kiss off, dude. I'm taking a fscking break.

You are stupid.

--
I'm EMOTIONAL now because I have MERCHANDISING CLOUT!!

So you troll COLA on every break.
And you call us freaks?

Hahahha!

> You are stupid.

No.
Just very observant.

All fucking day long 5 days a week you are on a break? If you work 2
hours a day, you are lying to your boss. They need to monitor you and
see just what you are doing to earn a paycheck. What's your boss's phone
number. Let me speak to him or her about what I see here with you not
doing a day's work for the company. :)

...a thread of 3 messages about a bug that's been fixed already.

You must have really drawn blanks when you were trying to trawl the world
for this one.

...which is a bug that's already been fixed.

Get out of my face, ankle-biter.

No one cares what you say.

--
yip yip yip

Doesn't that apply to Duh-Inane asshole, who (someone said) is supposed to
be an IT professional, yet posts a LOT in here under various nyms "All
fucking day long 5 days a week" ?

--
Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste.

And such a coprolalic crap flood at that!

Isn't he also the numbnuts that claimed to work with the Air Force and have
a "Secret" clearance?

--
Tom's hungry, time to eat lunch.

This is a fucking lie. I showed up here today, because it snowed and the
freeway was too bad to drive on and I stayed home. I have an 1.5 hour
drive to work. I was not doing it in bad weather.

The damn loon thinks someone is posting under various nyms. The damn
loon thinks someone is here all day long posting? The old fool is
mumbling again, but that's old Mumbles Boaster for you.

What excuse does Duh-Inane asshole have for posting during working hours?
After all he's claimed to be an IT professional (yeah, riiight) & have a
job.

--
Gnu: The feeling you've seen this wildebeest before.

Of course not, because he doesn't use Linux. I believe that at one time at
least three people tried to explain fstab to him, & he *didn't get it*.
Hardly surprising, as he's as thick as a brick.

> Init? (oops)

Heh.

> :-D
>

--
FireFox - Why, wtf did he do?

Fool, that was over a year ago. I have since worked for the Army due to
the clearance. Now I am back in the private sector working. But that's
what .NET contractors do stupid, while you sit at your stupid desk not
making any serious money dreaming you were a Linux programmer. The dream
is never going to come true for you.

He is just a butt-kisser the old master of it.

He probably did claim that, but if anyone believes it, I have a bridge
for sale...

--
Don't confuse a wintroll with facts, its mind is already made up.

"Had a job" would be more to the point.

Getting fired for gross incompetence swiping parking lots was what happened to
him.

That cretin is not smart enough to spill a bucket of water
--
Computers are like air conditioners -
they stop working properly when you open Windows

<snipped>

Look at the old fool, someone get him an old man's diaper. He needs to
be changed.

Ah, but he *does* know his elbow from his arse, because he can't talk out
of his elbow!

HAHAHAHA...etc.

--
Linux - for IQs greater than 2000.

Hundreds of bridges, actually. And all just slightly used
--
Microsoft Windows - The art of incompetence.

> the fstab which can take hours to complete don't you? Yes.
On how many levels is this wrong?

* That's not a setup of distributions. That's a "feature" of the ext
filesystems.

* Since it's a feature of the filesystem (and not a mount option) it is
not set up in fstab.

Since you are too lazy to read the manpage of tune2fs I will waste space
on usenet for you:

-c max-mount-counts
Adjust the number of mounts after which the filesystem will
be checked by e2fsck(8). If max-mount-counts is 0 or -1, the number of
times the filesystem is mounted will be disregarded by e2fsck(8) and the
kernel.

Staggering the mount-counts at which filesystems are
forcibly checked will avoid all filesystems being checked at one time
when using journaled filesystems.

You should strongly consider the consequences of
disabling mount-count-dependent checking entirely. Bad disk drives,
cables, memory, and kernel bugs could all corrupt a filesystem without
marking the filesystem dirty or in error. If you are
using journaling on your filesystem, your filesystem will
never be marked dirty, so it will not normally be checked. A filesystem
error detected by the kernel will still force an fsck on the next reboot,
but it may already be too late to prevent
data loss at that point.

See also the -i option for time-dependent checking.

[...]

-i interval-between-checks[d|m|w]
Adjust the maximal time between two filesystem checks. No
suffix or d will interpret the number interval-between-checks as days, m
as months, and w as weeks. A value of zero will disable the time-
dependent checking.

It is strongly recommended that either -c (mount-
count-dependent) or -i (time-dependent) checking be enabled to force
periodic full e2fsck(8) checking of the filesystem. Failure to do so may
lead to filesystem corruption (due to bad disks,
cables, memory, or kernel bugs) going unnoticed, ultimately
resulting in data loss or corruption.

On the other hand I have a very old ext3 filesystem as my home without
any forced checks and I never had data loss or corruption.
It's just not too safe to do it this way.

> disabled it that is.
I think Ubuntu has had this feature for several years now that when fsck
runs on the boot screen that you can abort it with ESC and boot
immediately.
(Yes, while checking the filesystem it shows a message that you can abort
with ESC)

> Poor Smarti.
What?

> Op 25-02-11 19:00, TomB schreef:

> Ubuntu GNU/Linux, which I use as my default OS, checks the integrity of
> the file system every 30 bootstraps. It /never/ defragmentates, because
> fragmentation is /no issue/ under /any/ "native" GNU/Linux supported
> file system.

> Fsck is the equivalent of MS-DOS CHKDSK /not/ DEFRAG, you clueless
> clown! And in fact it /only/ takes a couple of minutes, /not hours/ like
> you claim.

I think this thread is going down as another classic of Quack's idiocy!

You are a liar. I took the day off. What excuse do you have for being
here weakness. I know why Boaster is here all day long. He is an old
retired fool that only has this NG to keep him going.

What is your excuse stupid?

Yes, I remember that. What a laugh that was! You'd have to really work at
it to be that dumb.

I think this is going to be another "Quack's Classic Buffonery" thread. ;-)

LOL.

Heh.

--
Linux: Do you want to delete Windows today?

You don't have a bridge for sale, but it's still the truth. I don't lie
like the lying and give half truths like lying COLA dogs like him and
others in this no count NG.

You are a liar. Why do you people lie all of the time?