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Two more pictures by ame, yesterday

Today I have seen the female on the nest always when i have looked the view, sitting tight... The male visits the nest and spends time there too. What is going on ..heh.. Do you guess?













huh.. now to the work!

at 13:37


at 12:43


at 12:45

If the ospray to the left has a ring it is the female. The male is sitting on the bottom..incubating..

ame said

..the camera points too high in the close-ups and the wide-angle pictures are too 'wide' and the nest hole too deep.

yes, what a pity..





at 13:50 the nest was empty.

there certainly was something very interesting going on in the bottom of the nest yesterday. both birds were peeking down there in turns. i think we both do think the same way about what is going on there, Renandeli , even though i think it's impossible to actually see it.
i was about to say that there has been a bird sitting in the nest all day today, but exactly at this very moment the nest seems to be empty! what's going on ???

At 16:02 the other one had returned, and setled down to do what

Now I saw the egg!

at 13:02:00 the Ospray was disturbed by the boat..



the Ospray returned on the nest at 13:02:30



at 13:03:00



at 13:04:11



at 13:08:51

Hi!

In relation to the ospres eggs. I have seen DVD taking from Hailuoto nest 2007. The nesting was succesful, because three youngs was growing out to the world!!
But, the eggs are there much the same size as "chickeneggs". Do yuo know what I meen? What is the right expression?
The collor is white and lightbrown.

So, I think, there is no egg yet in Seilis nest.
The female is warming up the nest, or something like that! But it will be soon, it will be...

Millan yes, I understood what you meant. In thse picture I think that the egg is seen. The zoom is wide and the egg is so far, that the brown spots are not possible to see. And the colour may be so light brown that in an unsharp picture in bright sunlight it may look 'white'. It is pity that the zoomed pictures are too close! The part of the nest were egg could be seen leaves out of the lines..

I googled Ospray egg pictures



google helped



I just wonder how different the eggs of Ospray can be

http://www.classicnatureprints.com/pr.R ... ndex4.html

scroll down, there are 'two' boxes for Ospray eggs, ( it is said to the 'American Osprey' ? ..is it a different specie? ) eggs and to Ospray



edit: I almost forgot I found a photograph of a newborn osprey chick

Thank you, renandeli!

That is very interesting question, that osprey egg, in anyway. For exemple, the collour can be so different in the same nest, because there happens to be perhaps left just litle chemical in brown collor!

I did find that photo of concerned with the egg, osprey egg. That is the same size, as in Hailuoto DVD 2007.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ospreywatc ... otostream/

The female was on the nest at about 21:00. But the male was there too for long times, sitting tight on the cavity of nest bottom, and peking the head down to the cavity.
21:01

21:02


Peeking to the bottom cavity again
21:13


21:12 the female was eating on the edge of the nest - I'm not sure who was sitting alone on the nest before this situation.. Now there is sitting the male anyway. He sat there all the time when the female ate alone and all in peace.



I saw the female eating for about 22 minutes. Her ring shined in the evening sun. Here male is looking to the bottom of the nest.



My last shot for today, at 21:34. After that the male was sitting there alone as long I wathced the cam.. Well I' m not 100% sure it was the male who stayed there



My pics from Osprays in Seili ( some few pictures are google hits of Ospray eggs and a newborn) today in Photobucet (the pics are not in the very best order..
http://s281.photobucket.com/albums/kk22 ... =slideshow

i don't think it is possible to see the eggs in the nest, because the hole is so deep. the hole must be very deep, because the birds go in the hole by their shoulders, almost half the way of their backs when the peek down there. and when they sit in the hole they also sit so deep that their backs are only about an inch over the rims of the hole... and if the eggs also have that camouflage colouring as your pictures show.... all this taken into account i think it is a 'mission impossible' to see the eggs in that nest...

BUT i'm almost certain that there is at least one egg in the nest and that they are incubating, not just warming the nest.

in the newspaper 'Helsingin Sanomat' there was an article on May 1st (yesterday) about the suppositios about ospreys 'mating-for-life' and 'fidelity-to-one-spouse' being uncovered to be a false belief.

A Finnish ornithologist Matts Finnlund has examined an extensive amount of web cam picture material from both the Hailuoto and the Nauvo nests from previous years. he has discovered that the male, arriving to the nest first and thus conquering the territory, mated with one female after another as they arrived at the nest. he thinks that the females left the nest when the male stopped bringing food to them and had thereafter been replaced by another female arriving later. he thinks that another possibility is that a later arriving female had expelled the earlier female.

above i tried to give a short resume of the article's content, which i think was very interesting. i would assume that the male tries to conquer a territory and a nest which is as appealing as possible (meaning as favourable for breeding as possible). the females arrive later and fly around checking the available selection of territories and males and evaluate their abilities of feeding (they go 'nest shopping' and check which male has 'the biggest pay check'). during this checking period the birds mate, too. maybe if the eggs don't start to develop the female moves on... (in the olden days in the countryside in Finland a young human couple spent nights together with their their families consent till the girl got pregnant, even though it was 'a sin' in the eyes of the church. only after the pregnancy was noted, the couple was married, because a marriage without offspring was useless.)
it is possible that the females have a fights over the best bachelors (competition about the most able males in the darwinian sense). on the other hand, the males may choose among the females, too. a male may not feed a female if he 'thinks' she is not attractive enough. the female 'understands' the hint and leaves to look for a more favourable male.

as more information is obtained it seems that the monogamy of birds is only human wishful thinking...
maybe BSs behave in a manner somewhat similar to the ospreys? who knows... maybe all the ladystorks found mates more south this spring and that's why Padis is alone now. (i think we all agree that Padis and his nest are handsome enough even for a more demanding taste... ) these web cams really give valuable information about the behaviour of wild birds, impossible to obtain in any other way!

i have uploaded my pictures taken on Thursday Apr 30th in the P-bucket now and they are in proper time order, too. you can have a look at them in the address below:

http://s561.photobucket.com/albums/ss54 ... o30042009/

(the picture s37 is missing because there was no such picture at all. i lost count there )

i haven't taken any pictures now because there isn't actually much new to see. most of the time there is only one bird sitting in the nest, most likely incubating, and the weather is gorgeous: almost no wind at all and the sun is shining bright, ( the weather's 'like a bride' as Finns say )

besides: Renandeli has covered yesterday! (see the mail above)

i happened to capture this picture by accident when i came in. does anyone have an idea of what is happening here?



and the next picture is looks like there was nothing special going on at all.

hi Millan (, and others, too )
i have a few more pictures to demonstrate how small the nest in Nauvo is. have a look at this:





i was simply chocked to see these WTEs here for the first time , because they were so huge. i think they should really think seriously one more time before they try to take this nest as their home. it's not big enough for those gigantic birds.

and here's two more pictures showing that the ospreys aren't really so big after all even though they have a wing spread of almost 2 meters:





the crows aren't much smaller than the ospreys and they are not afraid to visit the nest even though the owner is at home! the ospreys can't leave the nest unguarded for 2 minutes if they want to have their eggs and chicks safe!

Ame, I think that the female was flying there around the nest for some minutes before she landed on the nest. I don't know exactly when she landed on the nest, but the male was standing there ready to leave at once when possible.

I happen to have only the picture of the male standing alone on the nest at 16:34. ( the next of my picture serie is taken at 15:56, the female standing to the right)



at 16:38 Ame saw the 'strange' view of the flying Ospray over the nest (look ame's post abowe)

So, at 16:56:51 is my first picture of the female on the nest - the male was now sitting but very soon he stood up.





The female is now alone on the nest.







At 16:58:23 the female looks tightly towards the cavity (and the 'secrets' there Then she bends her head down towarsd the cavity





at 16:59:43 - Oh, I love it, to sit here and rest..


at 18:43


PS Ame, nothing special happened! You was right.

I'm laughing to my explanation for 'nothing happened' with 9 pictures..

i don't know, Renandeli, i am still puzzled with the picture i got... . it seems to me as if there are two birds fighting in flight, with their feet connected in the air... and the damsell in the tower watching the knigths fighting.. i don't know. and after that shot everything was 'normal'.

ame

: i happened to capture this picture by accident when i came in. does anyone have an idea of what is happening here?

Oh, now that I look more carefully I see thatthere must be two osprays in the air on your picture! There are seen more wings than of only one ospray!

There has been some visitor on that very moment, it lasted maybe one second, less than ten.. Great capture anyway.

But after that I saw always the same ospray, female, on the nest, after the male had left. I was away out in the garden between 19:30-21:00, I opened the PC at 21:30.

I made two small slideshows of the osprays' life on the nest today

1) Incubating in the afternoon from 15:08 - to 16:59

http://s281.photobucket.com/albums/kk22 ... =slideshow


2) The sleepy female on the nest from 17.11 - 19:34

http://s281.photobucket.com/albums/kk22 ... =slideshow

Hi,

Ther are now 2 eggs in Seili, I give hier address to find one photo of that! Signatur Control has given that in Seili-size in Finland.

http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=4127476.jpg