July 4 Fireworks Show Moves to Hudson River

FireworksEd Betz/Associated Press Fireworks exploded near the Brooklyn Bridge, over the East River, as part of a Fourth of July celebration in 2005.

In 1609, the high-seas explorer Henry Hudson stumbled upon an island, where 400 years later public officials would devise a series of elaborate events and tie-ins to honor his discovery. One of the most noticeable is a plan to move the nation’s largest Fourth of July fireworks from the East River to the river bearing his name.

The news, quietly announced last week by Macy’s and noted on the NewYorkology blog, has some city residents wondering whether all this celebration of Mr. Hudson has finally gone too far.

Many of those skeptics, by the way, happen to live or work along the East River, the dividing central corridor of the city and home to the annual Macy’s fireworks show for the last 15 years (although in 2000 there were displays on both rivers).

“It’s a huge day, the biggest of the year,” said Jon Bloostein, owner of the Heartland Brewery, near the South Street Seaport, when told of the move. “The only thing we’ll have going for us now is people who go to the East River by mistake.”

Beyond business considerations, Mr. Bloostein said the East River, which whisks among Manhattan, Brooklyn and Queens, is “more New York” than the Hudson River, which he noted is lined on one side with “people from New Jersey.”

Growing ever bigger, louder and more sophisticated at the frenzied pace of a military arms race, the Macy’s fireworks display made its debut in 1958 on the Hudson River. Over the years launch sites have moved from off the Upper West Side, to Governor’s Island, before settling on the East River.

This year’s event calls for a 26-minute barrage of 40,000 firework shells fired from six barges between 24th Street and 50th Street on the West Side, according to the press release issued by Macy’s.

The Brooklyn borough president, Marty Markowitz, said in a statement that he would urge Macy’s to split the fireworks show between the East and Hudson Rivers.

Barring that compromise, a loss for Brooklyn and Queens would be New Jersey’s gain. That may go some way to repairing some of the division of recent years between New Jersey and New York on a day of supposed national unity.

Over the past several Independence Days, Jersey City has held a dueling, much smaller, firework show partly in response to a perceived snub from Macy’s. In 2007 the dispute escalated after New York City fire officials refused to allow Jersey City to have fireworks over the Hudson River, invoking an 1834 treaty signed by President Andrew Jackson that gives New York jurisdiction over its surrounding waters. Jersey City staged the event on land.

The mayor of Hoboken, David Roberts, said in past years the fireworks could be partially viewed from his city by peering through the Manhattan skyline. This year the fireworks will be directly overhead.

“We’re very excited about it,” he said. “Thousands of New Jersey residents and I bet a couple of New York residents will get a better view from our side.”

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i grew up in Hoboken and now live in Brooklyn. I was hosed then, and I’m hosed now.

Macy’s to Brooklynites: Drop Dead.

I live on the upper west side near the GW, and recall when the bridge and westside highway were closed so people could see the multiple fireworks barges spaced along the Hudson. I really felt like we had been abandoned when the fireworks moved to the harbor and have not seen them in years as I was not about to take 3 subways to stand in a crowd along the narrow waterfront. I look foward to being able to see the fireworks live for a change. TV with running insipid commentary does not do it for me.

Captain Democracy May 4, 2009 · 4:51 pm

I think New York City should acquire the U.S.S. Battleship Iowa who sits up the Sacramento River in mothballs. This fully restored battleship would make the ideal platform for opening up those 8″ incn guns on Fourth of July (pyrotechs).
This could be the, “Greatest show on earth.”
“Why didn’t Mayor Bloomberg think of it?”
//www.CaptainDemocracy.wordpress.com

Roosevelt Island 360 (Eric) May 4, 2009 · 4:56 pm

As a result no viewing of the fireworks from Roosevelt Island or any other festivities on the island that evening…

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Joshua Rosenstock May 4, 2009 · 4:57 pm

Why can’t they have fireworks over both rivers?

Macy’s has more stores in New Jersey that it does in New York City. Shouldn’t they accommodate those customers? It is, after all, known as the Macy’s (not New York City) 4th of July celebration. And those of us who live on the East Side of Manhattan will enjoy being able to do things in our neighborhood on July 4th.

Maybe they should alternate. One year the East River, next year the Hudson River.

#4… 8″?. I think you meant 16″

Fireworks=waste and pollution, in the making shipping and burning, ridiculous.

Alex from Marine Park May 4, 2009 · 5:23 pm

After ten minutes, the Macy’s fireworks, though spectacular, actually starts to get tedious. We were on a roof in Greenpoint and my then-3-year-old nephew got bored and started wandering around. It didn’t have to necessarily tear myself away from the show to keep an eye on him, because I was started to get bored too.

I always thought the waters off Coney Island would’ve been a great spot for a second huge fireworks show. Maybe Macy’s can cut their Hudson/East River shows in half and send the surplus fireworks down Coney Island way.

The fireworks are a huge, polluting waste of money and fresh air in the service of advertising. This is one tradition that should slip into history.

Recent College Grad May 4, 2009 · 5:41 pm

They generally do have them over both rivers– one year I watched from a roof in Inwood and could see the fireworks on all sides. I’m excited they’re moving it to the Hudson. It’s a great place to watch and a gorgeous river– I think the experience will be more pleasant than watching the East River fireworks last year.

I see this as a fatal blow to the Great Satan, the Upper so-called “East” Side. I trust my fellow West Siders will be magnanimous in our great victory.

“Fireworks=waste and pollution, in the making shipping and burning, ridiculous.”

“The fireworks are a huge, polluting waste of money and fresh air in the service of advertising. This is one tradition that should slip into history.”

Is The Grinch reaching for another holiday?

Macy’s can afford to shoot fireworks this year? Must be nice!

Sophie McConnell May 4, 2009 · 5:50 pm

I love fireworks. I live on the westside and was most disappointed when the fireworks moved, but I agree with #10. After about 10-15 minutes it becomes yada yada yada. Since Macy’s has 26 minutes worth of fire power, perhaps they could do 13 minutes on each river, thereby making everyone happy. Maybe have one show early and one late.

As soon as there is a good fireworks app for the I-phone, these shows will be so over.

First the thanksgiving day parade, now the fireworks…….

what next…..all these taxes & we keep giving everything up.

Why not alternate one year Hudson one year East each location has its advantages as viewing sites and for audiences.
Keep veryone happy or is the EAST Side a HOG ??

“Jon Bloostein, owner of the Heartland Brewery . . . said the East River, which whisks among Manhattan, Brooklyn and Queens, is ‘more New York’ than the Hudson River, which he noted is lined on one side with ‘people from New Jersey.'”

As if that’s such a terrible thing? Well, I know one restaurant I won’t be visiting again, Mr. Bloostein.

Perley J. Thibodeau May 4, 2009 · 7:09 pm

They used to have the fireworks in the Hudson River fifty years ago when I lived on West End Avenue.
I didn’t go to them then, either.
As for the upper East Side, I used to see them looking south through the buildings, and also the Central Park ones looking west but, now the newly built forty and fifty story edifices are even starting to block out my sunshine.
I noticed today that the Barnes and Noble Bookstore on Lexington and East 86th Street has just gone out of business.
Let’s hope that Macy’s doesn’t follow suit!

City going green? I don’t think so — fireworks are toxic to the environment and especially to wildlife.

Seems strange for a Seaport business owner to be badmouthing out-of-towners? Just ‘sayin.

How about doing it like 1986– down the Hudson (from about Chambers St.) around the Battery and up the East River to the Seaport, and some out in the Harbor towards the Statue of Liberty?

Then (almost) everyone can see- Manhattan, Brooklyn, a piece of Queens, Staten Island, and New Jersey. Sorry to those in the Bronx.

I remember spending a nice bit of money to go on a Spirit Cruise to see the fireworks from the East River a number of years ago. A cloud cover came in and we saw pink shadows behind the clouds.

Better that many more people can pay almost nothing to fill the more empty spaces along the Hudson–the East River access was always inferior.

But the obvious answer was included above–alternate from the Hudson to the East River every other year.

Duh!