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Tom Nakashima  
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 More options Dec 7 2001, 4:40 pm
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From: "Tom Nakashima" <t...@slac.stanford.edu>
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 13:33:17 -0800
Local: Fri, Dec 7 2001 4:33 pm
Subject: Rear Quick Release on a Fixedgear?
I was wondering if it's possible to use a quick release on the rear wheel of
a fixedgear bike?

Will the quick release be strong enough to keep the wheel in place?

Does anyone make a fixedgear hub with a quick release, or are they all solid
axles with locking nuts?

Reason for asking these questions,
I'll be riding a fixedgear on the street and I'm trying to get away from
carrying a wrench to undo the locking nuts in case of a flat. Any
alternatives?  Enjoy hearing from fixedgear street riders.

                                            -tom


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bobqzzi  
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 More options Dec 7 2001, 5:04 pm
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From: bobq...@mediaone.net
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 21:54:16 GMT
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Subject: Re: Rear Quick Release on a Fixedgear?
Yes you can.

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/fixeda.html

On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 13:33:17 -0800, "Tom Nakashima"


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Jon Isaacs  
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 More options Dec 7 2001, 5:20 pm
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From: jonisa...@aol.com (Jon Isaacs)
Date: 07 Dec 2001 22:19:22 GMT
Local: Fri, Dec 7 2001 5:19 pm
Subject: Re: Rear Quick Release on a Fixedgear?

It is doable and in fact commonly done, sometimes every on the track.

But if you are not riding on the track, there is no real need to use a track
hub, a regular freewheel hub for the street properly spaced is probably what
you want anyway and it will be a QR hub.

IMHO the only real reason to use track hubs is because they have the reverse
threaded lock rings which are keep the cog from unscrewing when back pedalling.

But since you are riding on the street, you will have brakes so this is not a
concern.

jon isaacs


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A Muzi  
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 More options Dec 7 2001, 5:34 pm
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From: A Muzi <am...@yellowjersey.org>
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 16:40:19 -0600
Local: Fri, Dec 7 2001 5:40 pm
Subject: Re: Rear Quick Release on a Fixedgear?

Tom Nakashima wrote:
> I was wondering if it's possible to use a quick release on the rear wheel of
> a fixedgear bike?

Sure. MIne is.  Campagnolo's old quick release track hubs (before the rules
changed) were the first hubs I ever saw with curved skewers.  Looked odd to me
then and now.

> Will the quick release be strong enough to keep the wheel in place?

Most quick release wheels are more secure than most nutted axle wheels.  The cam
action is very effective.  If you 're worried about it, oil inside the bell
housing so the cam works correctly.

> Does anyone make a fixedgear hub with a quick release, or are they all solid
> axles with locking nuts?

Don't think there are any current Q/R track hubs.  10mm axles are easy to swap
over to Q/R but some hubs are 9.5mm axle so check that first.

> Reason for asking these questions,
> I'll be riding a fixedgear on the street and I'm trying to get away from
> carrying a wrench to undo the locking nuts in case of a flat.

Me too. Never had a problem with my Simplex Q/R.  And my gear is low.

> Any alternatives?

Sure, a "peanut butter" wrench.  These are flat with a punched 15mm socket on
one end .  They are less common now but easy to carry.  The problem is that when
you flat, the wrench will be at your girlfriend's house.  Of course if you
change it to Q/R you won't have a pump or a spare tub anyway.  Cab fare is a
good thing for an urban cyclist.

Andrew "many ways to approach a problem"  Muzi
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alex wetmore  
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 More options Dec 7 2001, 5:56 pm
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From: a...@phred.org (alex wetmore)
Date: 7 Dec 2001 22:56:47 GMT
Local: Fri, Dec 7 2001 5:56 pm
Subject: Re: Rear Quick Release on a Fixedgear?
A Muzi <am...@yellowjersey.org> wrote in
<3c1145e1$0$65152$272ea...@news.execpc.com>:

>> Does anyone make a fixedgear hub with a quick release, or are they all
>> solid axles with locking nuts?

>Don't think there are any current Q/R track hubs.  10mm axles are easy
>to swap over to Q/R but some hubs are 9.5mm axle so check that first.

Wheels Manufacturing makes 9.5mm quick release axles.  If your LBS doesn't
stock them (mine does) then you can order them from Sheldon Brown.  They
cost just over $10.

alex


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Tim McNamara  
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 More options Dec 7 2001, 7:08 pm
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From: Tim McNamara <t...@localhost.bitstream.net>
Date: 07 Dec 2001 18:06:05 -0600
Local: Fri, Dec 7 2001 7:06 pm
Subject: Re: Rear Quick Release on a Fixedgear?

"Tom Nakashima" <t...@slac.stanford.edu> writes:
> I was wondering if it's possible to use a quick release on the rear wheel of
> a fixedgear bike?

Yes.

> Will the quick release be strong enough to keep the wheel in place?

Mostly.  At 6'4" and 210+ lbs, I have never pulled the wheel forward
in the dropouts with a fixed gear, but then I have made a point of
clamping the wheel down as tight as I can.

> Does anyone make a fixedgear hub with a quick release, or are they all solid
> axles with locking nuts?

You can get a hub suitable for fixed gearing that uses a QR.  Any hub
that will take a freewheel will also take a fixed cog.  But do have
brakes on your bike!

> Reason for asking these questions,
> I'll be riding a fixedgear on the street and I'm trying to get away from
> carrying a wrench to undo the locking nuts in case of a flat. Any
> alternatives?  Enjoy hearing from fixedgear street riders.

I've currently deep-sixed the fixed for street riding and have
gone with a coaster brake hub on my track bike- mainly because the
bike won't permit the use of brakes.  I use a bolt-on Bendix hub and
carry a Surly Jethro Tool wrench (with handy bottle opener).  It's
small and designed to be used with your foot for leverage if needed-
fits in my small seat pack along with a spare tube and tire levers.
So that's another viable option.

I like the utter simplicity of my bike, which I use to commute to
work.  It's tempting to say that "there's nothing to break" but I
can't remember the last time I actually *broke* anything on a bike
other than a spoke or a frame joint.  Chains, derailleurs, cables, etc
all seem prety robust.  For me it's an aesthetic- I like a bike with
no brake levers, no shift levers, no cables, no brazeons, the bars
flipped over and sawed off...  It's stark and dedicated to simple
motion.  Not to mention a PITA when there's a hill.


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Sheldon Brown  
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 More options Dec 7 2001, 10:14 pm
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From: Sheldon Brown <captb...@sheldonbrown.com>
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 23:31:35 GMT
Local: Fri, Dec 7 2001 6:31 pm
Subject: Re: Rear Quick Release on a Fixedgear?

Tom Nakashima wrote:

> I was wondering if it's possible to use a quick release on the rear wheel of
> a fixedgear bike?

> Will the quick release be strong enough to keep the wheel in place?

Yes.

> Does anyone make a fixedgear hub with a quick release, or are they all solid
> axles with locking nuts?

No, but most track hubs can be converted by swapping out the axle.  I do
this a lot.  

Most _tracks_ require nutted hubs for historical reasons (used to be wing
nuts, which were potentially hazardous.)

> Reason for asking these questions,
> I'll be riding a fixedgear on the street and I'm trying to get away from
> carrying a wrench to undo the locking nuts in case of a flat. Any
> alternatives?

Most of my own fixed gear fleet are QR equipped, for that exact reason.

> Enjoy hearing from fixedgear street riders.

You might care to have a look at  http://sheldonbrown.com/fixed

Sheldon "Keep Pedaling" Brown
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David L. Johnson  
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 More options Dec 7 2001, 11:16 pm
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From: "David L. Johnson" <david.john...@lehigh.edu>
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2001 04:16:35 GMT
Local: Fri, Dec 7 2001 11:16 pm
Subject: Re: Rear Quick Release on a Fixedgear?
I'll add a me-too with a slight caveat.  I use a QR on one wheel, which has my
low gears for climbing my afternoon commute hill.  Originally I used an old
Campy QR (and the old Campy axle) in there, and it was very difficult to clamp
down tightly enough.  I switched out the skewer for a Shimano one, and have
not had any problem since.  The Shimano skewers clamp stronger -- at least
stronger than a 1970 Campy one.

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MikeYankee  
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 More options Dec 8 2001, 9:42 am
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From: mikeyan...@aol.com (MikeYankee)
Date: 08 Dec 2001 14:41:35 GMT
Local: Sat, Dec 8 2001 9:41 am
Subject: Re: Rear Quick Release on a Fixedgear?
I agree that Shimano QRs seem to have more clamping pressure than Campy.

Curiously, though,  I used to have this clamping problem on my old Univega
beater with a Shimano QR (Ultegra).  I just tightened the crap out of it and
lived with it for a couple of years until -- eureka! -- I figured out what was
going on.

This bike has fairly thin dropouts, so the axle protruded ~1 mm too far on each
side.  The QR would just barely start to bottom out no matter how much the nut
was pre-tightened.  The fix was simply to add one thin spacer between each cone
and locknut.  


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Qui si parla Campagnolo  
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 More options Dec 8 2001, 10:00 am
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From: vecchi...@aol.com (Qui si parla Campagnolo)
Date: 08 Dec 2001 14:59:09 GMT
Local: Sat, Dec 8 2001 9:59 am
Subject: Re: Rear Quick Release on a Fixedgear?
Tom-<< I was wondering if it's possible to use a quick release on the rear
wheel of
a fixedgear bike?
Will the quick release be strong enough to keep the wheel in place?
Does anyone make a fixedgear hub with a quick release, or are they all solid
axles with locking nuts? >>

You can convert many track hubs to hollow axles w/o much problem but if you
have only one brake or none-nuts are a much better idea..just carry a
'peanutbutter' wrench in your back little bag..

Peter Chisholm
Vecchio's Bicicletteria
1833 Pearl ST.
Boulder, CO, 80302
(303)440-3535
http://www.vecchios.com


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Qui si parla Campagnolo  
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 More options Dec 8 2001, 10:02 am
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From: vecchi...@aol.com (Qui si parla Campagnolo)
Date: 08 Dec 2001 15:01:04 GMT
Local: Sat, Dec 8 2001 10:01 am
Subject: Re: Rear Quick Release on a Fixedgear?
Jon-<< But since you are riding on the street, you will have brakes so this is
not a
concern. >>

More than a few fixed gear guys here onm Boulder do not have brakes on their
rigs...so a track hub is essential for them. I use a track hubset as well, as
the rear is a flip-flop, another reason to use a solid axle...just carry a
wrench.

Peter Chisholm
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1833 Pearl ST.
Boulder, CO, 80302
(303)440-3535
http://www.vecchios.com


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