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Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

Fuck you say?!

Every dwarf must have an axe!

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Zebrin
Mar 12, 2010

Chopping trees down and making elves cry.
I wholly support this notion.

Rawkking
Sep 4, 2011

GulMadred posted:

No great mystery there; dralthas are herbivores. They'll starve to death in cages, but they also tend to starve even when given abundant pasture, so you might as well just butcher them all. Or train them for war and then use a bridge-a-pult to fling them over the walls.

Edit - the insatiable grazing behaviour may have been corrected by Lepermod.

Unlike elephants and some other humongous herbivores, Dralthas are just small enough that if given a large amount of grazing space, they'll survive.

Though with some overseers putting them into mass group pastures with dozens of other livestock (including dralthas), I wouldn't be surprised if this was a starved draltha from insufficient pasture. Since it was semi-wild I'm guessing it was actually a caged failed taming project though.

Rawkking fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Sep 30, 2012

Juc66
Nov 20, 2005
Lord of The Pants

Rawkking posted:

Unlike elephants and some other humongous herbivores, Dralthas are just small enough that if given a large amount of grazing space, they'll survive.

Though with some overseers putting them into mass group pastures with dozens of other livestock (including dralthas), I wouldn't be surprised if this was a starved draltha from insufficient pasture. Since it was semi-wild I'm guessing it was actually a caged failed taming project though.

I think we should start caging animals in the murk and using them to repel the goblins.
MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

TildeATH
Oct 21, 2010

by Lowtax

Juc66 posted:

I think we should start caging animals in the murk and using them to repel the goblins.

We finally have a chance for somebody to do Resident Evil in DF, only three LPs too late. Well, they can't get any of the stupid dissection or genetic engineering going on, but they can sure as hell cause the total annihilation of everyone in Bronzestabbed via Zombie Peahens that were meant to protect us.

Is it really only Spring? Seems like time is moving rather slowly this turn, but only Bad Munki knows how to do those calculations.

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


TildeATH posted:

Is it really only Spring? Seems like time is moving rather slowly this turn, but only Bad Munki knows how to do those calculations.

I went ahead and ran the numbers, the answer is "orange" but you have to say it like it's french.

TildeATH
Oct 21, 2010

by Lowtax

Bad Munki posted:

I went ahead and ran the numbers, the answer is "orange" but you have to say it like it's french.

You really are the worst mathematician ever.

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


:doh: You're right, I meant french-canadian.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Just FYI, Mr. Vile has been a legendary swordsdwarf for quite some time now. That particular in-game message was just notification that he was coming on duty after being off-duty.

Not that the newcomer Thadius would have known that, of course, so it makes perfect sense that he'd interpret it that way.

Pickled Tink
Apr 28, 2012

Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.



Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.
Fun Shoe

Juc66 posted:

I think we should start caging animals in the murk and using them to repel the goblins.
MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Sorry to get facts in the way of your evil laughter, sir, but caged animals are immune to all forms of external interaction. Or at least that I have been able to test. I have flooded cages in enclosed 10x10 spaces (A hundred cages) and the occupants only started to drown when I remotely opened the cages (I had a cage trap heavy fortress that got a lot of goblin traffic. They were the closest thing I could make to gas chambers).

Skanky Burns
Jan 9, 2009
Hook them up to a lever, release them when they are already in murk. Instant zombie animals!

Bonfiesta
Sep 4, 2012
Use chains, then you don't have to release them at all.

Thadius
Apr 2, 2010

ANGER HAS NEVER BEEN MORE MANLY THAN THIS
Let's call this half an update.



25th Hematite to 12th Malachite



Thadius observed Aldantefax for a little while longer to make sure he could get everything he needed. The dwarf seemed to know exactly which materials were suitable and which weren't, and where they all were.



Thadius did clearly see, though, a few emaciated-looking Drathla corpses in cages.

And Thad went out to find the elves to tell them that, regrettably, the doors could not open and would not open...



Except they were gone. Poof. Vanished. It was the weirdest thing he'd experienced yet.





Aldantefax began his mysterious construction...



At the same time Thad did.







Thad was wary of taking any more lava, for fear of draining the forges of too much of their precious fuel.

So he flipped those levers...



...turn-ways.





The hissing sound of the steam being generated made Thad wonder briefly if it could be harnessed as well.

Just then, Markus came down to observe for some reason. And also to hand him a notice about the work orders being completed.



"Dwarves! Strong, stout, hardy dwarves of Bronzestabbed! This dining room shall be talked about for ages to come! The engravers have been over every surface and inscribed great and stirring tales of history in the floors and into the walls! The masons have worked non-stop on making the finest chairs and tables! (Granted, a few are lost in transit right now, but we'll sort that out!) I give you the legendary dining room of Bronzestabbed!"

And from deep within the fortress, a similar cry was heard.





Pardon me while I bug Leper about making pedestals, I wanna display this thing ASAP.

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
That is a freaking gigantic toy axe.

OhCrap
Oct 14, 2011

I MAKE VICTORY!

GNU Order posted:

Yesssss my dwarf owns

Also grats to Thadius for being the only overseer to correctly refer to my dwarf as a "her"

Just to clarify this, I did in fact refer to you as a girl. You misread the line in question and I didn't bother to correct you.

TildeATH
Oct 21, 2010

by Lowtax

OhCrap posted:

Just to clarify this, I did in fact refer to you as a girl. You misread the line in question and I didn't bother to correct you.

Right, and then there's that other overseer...

TildeATH posted:


The Captain of the Guard knew the rules. If you're in the caverns, you could get sealed in. It happens--a mason may not know everyone has come back. And it had happened to her. Every military dwarf learns the rule--stay near a central pillar and wait, the miners will dig you out. Sealed in, cut off, and out of ammo. And she could hear the scraping claws on the ground that told her the crundles had found her again.

...

Gnu Sheriff rolled her eyes. "Right."

GrimRevenant
Mar 28, 2011

Je Reviendrai.
I think GNU Sheriff may be our first radical dwarven feminist.

This promises to be interesting. :munch:

GNU Order
Feb 28, 2011

That's a paddlin'

My dwarf got called a "he" once by an overseer and now it makes me fumin' mad.

Duly noted guys, thanks for successfully checking your priviledges

Thadius
Apr 2, 2010

ANGER HAS NEVER BEEN MORE MANLY THAN THIS
This post is full of terrible things.



13th Malachite to 26th Malachite

"This place isn't NEARLY spiffy enough. I'm looking in the artifact ledger, and I've only seen half of these. Where did the rest get t-"

Thump.

Thump. Thump.

THUMP.




Thadius turned to Mr Vile. "What was that?"

"Heavy footfalls. Can't be an ogre, we locked all those out."



"Sounds like it came from the north, and deep underground."

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa



"So from former Ugathville, then."



"Would you check it out for me? Whatever it is might not be friendly."



"Not an issue. Me and the rest of my squad just got off, but we can take a look-see."



"And if it's unfriendly we can deal with it."



"Hopefully it's nothing."

-----



HiHo ChiRho was NOT having a good day. She was just coming down to the stockpiles under former Ugathville for a few plants when this...THING looked in her direction, roared, and began chasing her.



She quickly ran into a room and locked the doors behind her, looking for anything to barricade them with.



Then there was the sound of a sword unsheathing...



... Guttural screaming...



...A few wet-sounding chops, like she heard from the butchers...





...And finally, silence. HiHo carefully opened the doors to find Mr Vile standing above most of the body of the troll.

"Just another day on the job."

-----

"Hey Leper, how are you?"



"I am well, Overseer. Are you drunk again?"

"What? No. I'm actually worried. Some dwarves around here tell me you had an...episode a while back."

"My friends had died."

"Oh. Entirely justified, then."

"What did you call me in here for, Overseer? Is it about our most noble guest?"



"Not really, I have a solution for that."



"It's called, 'Let Vox make all the bronze bolts he wants to.'"

"Is it about Oski's promotion?"



"I am happy about that, true. But no, not that either."

"The latest beardling being born in our fortress?"



"Or maybe your pet project of obsidian generation?"



"If you'd let me, Leper. I have two questions. Firstly, I was examining the area near where the troll came in from..."



"And I found a troll in a cage. I would like it if you found whoever put that troll there and have them meet with Vox when he's done making bronze bolts for a small hammering session. I can only think that the calls of this one brought the other one down on our heads."

"And the second question?"



"What do you know about Adamantine mining?"

:unsmigghh:

Willie Tomg
Feb 2, 2006

Thadius posted:

"And the second question?"

http://lpix.org/864117/Oh this is probably a bad plan.png

"What do you know about Adamantine mining?"

:unsmigghh:

Let's be real: after we got fortifications up and the holes in said fortifications patched out this was pretty much the only way the fort could end.

HiHo ChiRho
Oct 23, 2010

HiHo ChiRho: Legendary Brewer, dabbling coward. I love it.

Shiv Katall
Feb 11, 2008
Rape knows no boundaries

HiHo ChiRho posted:

HiHo ChiRho: Legendary Brewer, dabbling coward. I love it.

Hey now, we need our booze.

Thadius
Apr 2, 2010

ANGER HAS NEVER BEEN MORE MANLY THAN THIS
I think...I think I broke it. Somehow.



27th Malachite to 10th Galena

Thad pulled up the weapon ledger...



...And estimated that at least thirty of those axes were the work of Oski. And of those, maybe nine were of masterwork quality.

"On the bright side, plenty of axes for weapons traps."



"MURK!"



Thad looked out the front door. "Too bad no goblins are there. Would've been nice."



And then The Archivist became hard to find.



Except not, because the magma forges were Thad's favorite place in the fortress.

The Archivist kicked out a dwarf who was using the workshop to extract the metal strands from the raw adamantine...



...Growled when anyone tried to take said adamantine, and was off to find some gems.



And then the Mayor handed Thad a demand.



"You KNOW how the craftdwarves get when you demand specific things! The best I can do is ask them to make crafts and hope that they make what you want!"

"How is that MY problem?"

Thad was about to explain, when...





"THE KESTREL! THE KESTREL HAS RETURNED!"

Apparently a kestral was a big enough deal to get the dwarf child Acallapani to drop the barrel he was carrying and run inside.

Just then, the queen walked up to the Overseer.



"Two things, Overseer. First, I hereby forbid the export of ballista arrows."

"Could I use them to shoot at the goblins if they were suicidal enough to come close to our ballista?"

"Maybe. Second..."



"Vox has informed us he has the criminal in custody.

Thadius watched the hammerer take the innocent away, to a room...



...There was the sounds of chains clanking around...



...And then, nothing.

Here's what happens: Vox has chained up the 'criminal,' is standing on the SAME SQUARE, and cancle-spams that he can't find the path to execute his victim.

Don't get me wrong. I enjoy stymieing the hammerer.

But if he keeps this up he'll be standing there till doomsday comes or he dies of thirst/starvation.

I think it's slightly broken. I'll wait on Leper to tell me what I'm doing wrong and how to fix it.

GrimRevenant
Mar 28, 2011

Je Reviendrai.
I think Vox Nihili is engaging in an interpretive-dance parody of the entire dwarven legal and justice system. I cannot wait to see how he continues this performance. :allears:

E: That or he is literally “turning a blind eye”, or is suffering such an intense conflict of desires/interests that it is threatening to tear him apart from the inside.

:suspense:

GrimRevenant fucked around with this message at 07:09 on Oct 3, 2012

Bonfiesta
Sep 4, 2012
Execute the criminal yourself if all else fails. That oughta snap him out of it.

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
Remove the hammerer duty from Vox and give it to the prisoner?

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

I think this is due to the pathing-to-a-job change that Toady made one or two updates ago. Normally it manifests as a dwarf with a construction job who cancels it because he's standing on the square, but that's easier to fix (cancel and then re-apply the construction job). Here, you cannot cancel dwarven justice and in fact have very little control over it (although it appears we no longer have chains or jails, which causes authorities to assign hammerings as punishment instead. Which is more deadly depends on circumstances.)

The suggestion to reassign the hammerer duty might work, but I suspect it won't (often dropping someone's labor permissions fails to apply to a task they're already engaged in). You may have to explore more creative solutions.

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008
Draft/undraft, deconstruct the chain, etc.

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather
Cause a cave in right below them. That should do the trick.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




Air is lava! posted:

Cause a cave in right below them. That should do the trick.

Or above them.

What does the justice screen claim the miscreant did anyway?

Rawkking
Sep 4, 2011
I'm guessing that the identity of the criminal is intentionally being kept a mystery? Or did I miss something.

GrimRevenant
Mar 28, 2011

Je Reviendrai.

Rawkking posted:

I'm guessing that the identity of the criminal is intentionally being kept a mystery? Or did I miss something.
It was easy to miss, but I believe Arrhythmia is the “criminal” in question, going by this Dwarven Justice screenshot:

Thadius posted:



"Not really, I have a solution for that."
E:

Angela Christine posted:

What does the justice screen claim the miscreant did anyway?
“Violation of production order.” Typical noble bullshit.

Now we see the violence inherent in the system!

GrimRevenant fucked around with this message at 13:03 on Oct 3, 2012

Tias
May 25, 2008

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For shame I don't have the time or experience to overseer. Know what I'd do? Force Leper to mod dual wielding in, and give erry dwarf TWO axes.

We need some new thinking here, people.

GulMadred
Oct 20, 2005

I don't understand how you can be so mistaken.

Tias posted:

For shame I don't have the time or experience to overseer. Know what I'd do? Force Leper to mod dual wielding in, and give erry dwarf TWO axes.
Getting a dwarf to carry a second axe is relatively simple (with DFHack) but proper two-weapon combat would require code changes which go far beyond the scope of Lepermod.

JosephWongKS
Apr 4, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

GulMadred posted:

Getting a dwarf to carry a second axe is relatively simple (with DFHack) but proper two-weapon combat would require code changes which go far beyond the scope of Lepermod.



Way back in Boatmurdered, wasn't the last two surviving dwarfs a creepy child playing in the boneyard and a scarred veteran wearing platemail over chainmail and carrying two weapons?

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

WELL THAT JUST HAPPENED!

JosephWongKS posted:

Way back in Boatmurdered, wasn't the last two surviving dwarfs a creepy child playing in the boneyard and a scarred veteran wearing platemail over chainmail and carrying two weapons?

I don't think he ever got a chance to use those weapons. He just snatched them up as everyone around him was burning to death

Also, I'm dissapointed that not enough has been done with the murk. I know the Resident Evil jokes were run into the ground during Syrupleaf, but there are other zombie games and settings to make fun of. Like, say, House of the Dead

TildeATH
Oct 21, 2010

by Lowtax

SirPhoebos posted:

I know the Resident Evil jokes were run into the ground during Syrupleaf...

If by jokes you mean lame, lame, lameness, then you're right.

Thadius
Apr 2, 2010

ANGER HAS NEVER BEEN MORE MANLY THAN THIS
It's AMAZING what you can do when you open the front door.



10th Galena to 1st Limestone

Thadius peeked into the room and saw a very amusing sight.



The Hammerer was attempting to dole out punishment without a hammer.



Thadius quickly told Vox he was a part of the Gnu Order...



...Activated the guard, and then deactivated them. Vox trundled on to other things, and Thad got a nearby dwarf to quickly dismantle the chain the poor innocent was bound to. (He'd put it back later of course.)



Thadius decided to put Vox in his own squad in case this happened again. That way the rest of the squad wouldn't have to be activated just to stop Vox.

And then there was a cry from atop a tower.



"THE SEIGE IS OVER!"



Apparently the goblins had decided Bronzestabbed was more trouble than it was worth and just...left. Just like the elves.

The only thing left was this ogre on a hill.



"Mr Vile, if you'd be so kind?"

"But of course."

-----

Nearby!







-----

LAAAAAAAAAADIES AND GEEEEEEEENTLEDWARVES! TONIGHT ONLY! THE WRESTLING MATCH TO END ALL MATCHES!



IN THE RED CORNER, WEIGHING IN AT WELL OVER FOUR HUNDRED POUNDS, STOZU THE OGRESS!



IN THE BLUE CORNER, WIELDING THE FINEST WEAPONS OF BRONZESTABBED, MISTER VIIIIIILE!



I WANT A NICE DIRTY FIGHT! WE'VE GOT CHILDREN WATCHING AFTER ALL!



Stozu decides to USE her girth, and rushes Mr Vile, who has no option but to try and get out of the way. Unsuccessfully, I might add.



Mr Vile gets a few good hits in before she pulls it again.



But wait, what's this? It's only Mad Whack, one of the OTHER legendary militadwarves of Bronzestabbed!



She can't charge them both! When one gets a good slash, she turns her attention to that one, leaving her open to the other! Tag teaming works WONDERS! Never go out without your battle buddy!



Oh! If Mr Vile hadn't been a militia dwarf, he'd have made a decent surgeon!



And with a final headshot...



The last ogre was killed.

BRONZESTABBED IGNORED MOST OF THIS.

-----

In the depths...







-----

Back upstairs!



"You know how this went last time, your majesty."

"Indeed. I hope you've learned from your mistake."

"Yes. This time they'll be bronze."



"Human caravan on the horizon!"



"Prep the trade depot! Maybe I'll get to actually trade during my time as Overseer."

And then something disturbing happened.



Vox pulled his now-sleeping victim to the same chain...



But this time, left for the main gates.



While other dwarves were hauling things inside or to the depot, Vox had a very special piece of cargo in mind.

A goblin maul.



As the first humans pulled in...



Vox began his work.



Eight hammerstrikes later, he was done.



His victim, battered and broken, went to 'sleep it off.'



Brannock the broker was resting on the main floor of the fortress, not too far from the depot. Thad did not know why, but did know that Brannock was holding up the trading by not moving.



Just as Thad went out to talk to the humans, fall arrived.

Next time: Hopefully not goblins!

Thadius fucked around with this message at 06:48 on Oct 4, 2012

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

Is there any way to get victims to wear armor?

Speaking of armor, are turkeys some sort of supernatural beings in this game? How else could the ogress's turkey leather clothes have deflected adamantine blades?

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TildeATH
Oct 21, 2010

by Lowtax

Arglebargle III posted:

Is there any way to get victims to wear armor?

Speaking of armor, are turkeys some sort of supernatural beings in this game? How else could the ogress's turkey leather clothes have deflected adamantine blades?

Ogres have really, really thick skin in this mod. That's why spear users like Peas are so effective against them in comparison to sword-wielding dwarfs like Mr. Vile.

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