The Authoritative Thread on Michael Glasser, Prescott Computer Guy from Prescott, Arizona (Snit)

My business life has no need to be a part of CSMA. The fact that idiotic
trolls keep bringing it up is pathetic.

I have now had a couple ISPs offer to assist me in a civil lawsuit if I do
opt to go that route. Up until now I have not been seriously considering it
- but you are right that there is clear indications of direct harm... the
Google search you talk about is good support.

I am not saying I will be be contacting a lawyer... but I might. I also
have logged evidence of people who do come to my site doing the very
searches that lead to their lies about me. It is hard to estimate how many
people have found their posts by the searches, but if their is a legal case
Google's records might be able to be subpoenaed.

Frankly I just don't get why people would take a CSMA debate so seriously as
to sink to such levels... I am frankly shocked at the number of people who
sink to that level: Carroll, Adams, Sandman, Mackay, -hh.

It is bad enough when they openly lie about me, for example, forging PDFs...
but to target my business life?!?! I just do not get it. Really... just
baffling to me. Beyond baffling.

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BU__SH__

Hahaha!

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Sandman[.net]

Actually, nothing about you have a need to be a part of CSMA. You're
the most disliked person in the group and the most killfiled. The only
one that want's you here is zara, who uses you as a springboard for
her own trolling, since well... she isn't very good at it. :-D

Perhaps you should leave? Obviously you are afraid that people will
draw the connection between your trolling in CSMA and your business
life and that would somehow be bad.

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Sandman[.net]

Sandman, I really don't think you get the point of this thread. This
thread is supposed to be about giving confidence to potential
customers of Michael Glasser, Prescott Computer Guy from Prescott
Arizona. Frankly, what you wrote wouldn't give me much confidence in
our friend Michael Glasser as a consumer. Surely you can do better
than that, Sandman. Michael Glasser's well-being as Prescott Computer
Guy in Prescott, Arizona needs the support of us all. Can you help us
reach that goal or will you continue to be a downer, saying negative
words like "killfiled" and "zara"?

Surely anyone who knows that string would know his mane and where he is
and what his business is, so why would anyone other than a nutcase put
that particular string into google?

The idiot is probably doing you a favor. He's put you on the first page
of results in a search for computer prescott arizona. If you bear that
in mind in your replies, you might get some new customers.

Andy

The basic problem is that you're a hypocrite, Michael.

Thank-you for documenting this threat of a lawsuit as your attempt to
intimidate others.

You were previously and clearly warned that your public statements
were libelous in nature. That you then chose to persist was your
responsibility and a sign that you have been the aggressor.

See above: "The problem is that you're a hypocrite, Michael."

Now that people know that mentioning your real name and/or business is
a button-pusher, it will invariably be used as a tool against you
whenever you falsely accuse people of being "perverts" and so forth.
You have utterly no control in these retributions, for it is as per
what John Gilmore has written on the subject of trying to manipulate
information on the Internet:

"The Internet interprets censorship as damage and routes around it".

For a supposedly smart guy, you're really being quite stupid IMO for
not having already learned this lesson, and it has been through your
own actions that you've --> facilitated <-- it escalating to today,
where "Gosh!" your actions might actually result in actual economic
impact on your computer consulting business. You can stop being such
a sniveling whining coward and step up to take responsibility for what
you have created through how you have chosen to act.

In general, this means doing the opposite of calling others liars,
threatening lawsuits and other actions of what is commonly referred to
as being a 'fucking asshole'.

Unfortunately, you've done such severe and long term damage to your
online reputation that you have a very long road ahead of you to
regain credibility. I pointed this out to you two years ago and
you've not changed one bit. Its not my life you're ruining, but your
own. Just think what your daughter is going to think of you in
another few years when she puts 1+1 together and reads all of your
"Snit" personna rantings.

Absolutely no one here forced you to sit down at a keyboard and post
to CSMA. That's all your doing and your responsibility. You've been
offered advice, but you've cavalierly disregarded and ignored it.

As many an old school Grandma has said: "You made your bed, now lie in
it."

-hh

You act as though it is my fault that you and other acted in completely
reprehensible ways . Take responsibility for your own actions.

As far as you making claims against me, not you did not quote a single thing
I said which was wrong. Not one.

Think about that.

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"For example, user interfaces are _usually_ better in commercial software.
I'm not saying that this is always true, but in many cases the user
interface to a program is the most important part for a commercial
company..." Linus Torvalds <http://www.tlug.jp/docs/linus.html>

For the simple reason that because it is your fault.

Why should I, when you don't? As the saying goes, "After you,
hypocrite."

For example, in the very recent past, we have seen that the threats of
contacting ISPs began with you.

And we've also seen that to the best of posted public knowledge, you
are the only individual who then actually followed through on that
threat (or at least claimed to).

And yet, you have the audacity to then complain about how others
simply won't let the disagreements on CSMA stay just on CSMA.

Even if you believe some form of "...but he started it!..." rationale
of so-called "Self-Defense", the facts of the matter are that by
taking it outside of CSMA, you've now "stooped" to be as bad as than
the worst of what you accuse others of.

That's classical hypocracy. And it is all your's. No one forced
you to do the things that you have done, just like no one is forcing
you to stay here in CSMA.

Everyone here knows that it is trivial to go find your posts in reply
to Steve that say "reported to ISP" and the like; its not like they
don't exist. Listing any citation would have given you the excuse to
use it as a distraction from the Big Picture into your ankle-biting
minutia. The post was short, high level and right on point...no
minutia distractions.

You've made your bed, now lie in it.

-hh

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One of the worst kinds of pathetic losers is the whiner.

Your actions are your responsibility. Not mine. The fact you blame me says
a lot about you.

There is nothing hypocritical about me not taking responsibility for *your*
actions.

When you act in a reprehensible way your ISP shall be told. If that bothers
you then stop acting in reprehensible ways.

I have alerted your ISP and ISPs of others who have acted in reprehensible
ways. That is not something bad.

When people take the debates out of CSMA I do alert their ISP. There is
nothing hypocritical or wrong about that.

I never suggested any form of "he started it" defense. You are simply makin
that up. Of course if you look above *you* do use that defense:

Sad how you cannot keep yourself focused for an entire post.

Who said I was forced? I acted appropriately. And I shall do so again.
The one mistake I may have made is to be kind and let people know I was
reporting them - you are right, given the personalities in CSMA I should
have been able to predict that others might also crave attention so badly
they would be willing to act in equally reprehensible ways to get my
attention.

Nor has anyone said they do not. Why change the topic to that?

You forgot to make a point.

hh, you're even worse than Sandman! Whether you agree with Michael
Glasser (Prescott Computer Guy from Prescott, Arizona) or not, the
fact that his business name could be linked to such garbage on Google
is completely unjustifiable. How is his family supposed to make a
living if they can visit Google and find such drivel as the Set Theory
thread along with his name? Would YOU patronize Michael Glasser,
Prescott Computer Guy, if YOU saw that garbage connected to his name?
Of course not. You're taking food right out of Michael Glasser and
his family's mouth. Would you like if YOUR posts were connected to
your real name, hh? Suppose somebody read your post and thought,
"Gee, I don't like people who call out others for being assholes. I
don't like this guy anymore." How would that make you feel?
Exactly. Please, hh, use this thread as it was intended - to support
Michael Glasser, Prescott Computer Guy from Prescott, Arizona so that
his business and his well-being aren't negatively impacted by his
posting on CSMA. CSMA's like one big dysfunctional family - would you
really destroy another member of your dysfunctional family like that?
I sure hope not. Be a pal to our friend Michael and post some
positive reasons that Michael Glasser, Prescott Computer Guy from
Prescott, Arizona would be a good person to hire for computer help in
Prescott, Arizona.

Well I'll be! Fantastic! Now if only people would use this thread as
intended... I'm very disappointed with hh and Sandman's responses.
I'm glad your response was more appropriate for the spirit of this
thread.

Since nobody in CSMA, as far as I know, has *any* experience with my
business it seems unlikely that someone in CSMA is going to have much of
*value* to say one way or the other. As far as getting on the first page of
results, well, I already was there - I designed my site well and the town is
fairly small so it was not hard to get to the front page (first 10 hits).
This was true of Google and Yahoo and Ask! and, I believe, MSN. I also have
other methods of getting my site visible to local customers.

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Computers are incredibly fast, accurate, and stupid: humans are incredibly
slow, inaccurate and brilliant; together they are powerful beyond
imagination. - attributed to Albert Einstein, likely apocryphal

Other than the fact that I often help people in CSMA with computer problems
what do you expect people to know of my business? Really what could they -
other than what they read on my website.

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Is Swiss cheese made out of hole milk?

You've donated your expertise with Mac-related stuff before, haven't
you? People could say something about that.

Yes.

They could.

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Dear Aunt, let's set so double the killer delete select all

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1123221217782777472

that's extremely hard to believe- there are very few instances that a
business would "offer to assist" in ANY lawsuit where they have
nothing to gain. post up the offers, or this comment will be (and
should be) chalked up to bullshit by more rational people.

<snip>

and monkeys might fly out your butt.

i'm not sure why you think that would have any bearing in a legal
case.

<snip>

if snit, for some god awful reason, really brings suit against anyone,
contact me for proof of him forging PDFs.

you're not even there in the results NOW (not your business site (or
personal)), not even the first few pages, so what do you mean
'already' there (you are in the local results, but that's different)?

<snip>

Sites show up slightly differently depending on which Google server you
reach. I do show up here... in the local results, the sponsored links, and
the general search.

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BU__SH__

One: there is no such proof being that the PDF being forged - *every* single
piece of data is verifiable. This has been shown repeatedly.

Two: even if I had forged the PDF that would be irrelevant to any case
brought up.

Three: I shan't be discussing any possible legal actions I might take in any
more detail.

--
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is to try to please
everyone. -- Bill Cosby

Didn't you know, Sandman's "ISP" offered to help him <snicker>

Unless there are DMCA violations, or a court order, I seriously doubt
any ISP would "offer to assist".

Ummm, which time? :)

Perhaps Michael Glasser, Prescott Computer Guy from Prescott, Arizona,
is friends with a cable exec. You never know. If he were, think how
helpful he'd be in fixing problems with your high speed Internet
connection!

I don't know about everybody else, but I would totally hire Michael
Glasser, Prescott Computer Guy from Prescott, Arizona if monkeys could
fly out of his butt. Let's get some more promotions of Prescott
Computer Guy Michael Glasser like this!

Blah, blah, blah, boring. Get back to the true point of this thread -
supporting Prescott Computer Guy Michael Glasser from Prescott,
Arizona.

Do stop being so negative, Ed...

So far I have not had anything of that nature happen. Monkeys have never
even walked out of any of my orifices. Sorry if that disappoints you. :)

....

I am not looking for support just do not want others to try to tie their
posts to my business.

--
One who makes no mistakes, never makes anything.

Only, we don't know what ISP that is... As it seems, he has been
harassing Verizon :-D

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Sandman[.net]

Sandman, are you still pretending this page is hard to find:

<http://whois.domaintools.com/217.78.19.130>
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In case of improper use originating from our network,
please mail ab...@quicknet.se or ab...@swip.net
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Who uses Verizon that he's filed an abuse report on... no one that I've
seen.

--
"Apple is pushing how green this is - but it [Macbook Air] is
clearly disposable... when the battery dies you can pretty much
just throw it away". - Snit

The fact that you haven't claimed to have filed an abuse report to
Jesus' ISP for what he's suggesting here, that is unquestionably tied to
your business name, is duly noted.

Said the guy who admitted to forging posting IDs.

Said the guy who falsely claimed that he was asked to write the
disparaging webpages he has written about posters such as Elizabot and
myself... the guy who runs away from any mention of it. The same guy who
falsely claimed he was dared to forge nntp posting IDs by the people
whose names he forged.

Here is your opportunity to show that Elizabot asked you to write the
webpages you've written about her...

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Snit's proof that Elizabot asked Snit to write the disparaging webpages
Snit wrote about here goes here:

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You can't supply such evidence because it doesn't exist. It's notable
that your response to your reprehensible behavior is to lie about it.
I'm curious, if -hh now said to you:

'Go ahead, Snit... forge my posting ID'

Do you think that would be OK with your ISP? Apparently you don't
realize that's what your lie here is pushing... and it's similar to your
story that you had a 'special' contract with GoDaddy. I see you had to
change your info again... I guess that contract ran out, eh?

Why aren't taking responsibility for *your* actions?

Do you think your ISP should be told about the reprehensible things
you've done?

Negative things you have written about Sandman's business is showing up
on Google... I suppose you're OK with that, right?

His focus is fine... he's correctly pointing out the depth of your
hypocrisy.

This is a public forum, as such, you have no right to expect anonymity
for the disingenuous and reprehensible behavior you've engaged in that
many posters have commented on. It was to be expected that when you
dropped pointers to your personal information (mainly by using your
websites for disparaging webpages you've written about posters) it would
eventually come back to bite you in a newsgroup that is known for
trolling... trolling that you 'happily' participated in.

"In any case I am happy to know that my web pages about Steve annoy him".
Message-ID: <BFE8655D.40D54%SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID>

By the way, Mr. Hypocrite, care to explain how webpages you've written
don't go "outside" of csma?

Incorrect, he's telling you that you're reaping what you've sown.

> Said the guy...

Said me, Steve... is this in contention?

Your actions are your responsibility. Mine are mine. -hh is responsible
for his actions.

Sad that you feel the need to debate even that.

--
"The music is not inside the piano." - Alan Kay

One: I am under no obligation to share every time I report someone to their
ISP. Tim Adams, for example, has been reported several times without my
specifically stating it. Sadly his ISP does handle things as well as yours
- they are letting him continue to do absurd things.

Two: I never said there was a problem with mentioning my business name. The
problem is when you openly lie and try to tie your lies to my business name.
That is libel on your part.

--
God made me an atheist - who are you to question his authority?

Do jokes about monkeys flying out of people's butts offend you,
Steve? I don't understand. All I'm trying to do is create a thread
that's more positive when you search for Michael's business on
Google. Previously, that dreadful Set Theory thread came up as the
top result and it clearly needed to be displaced. Sadly, people like
you aren't cooperating. Why do you want Prescott Computer Guy to fail
as a business?

People can find out what they want to know by going to my website

<http://prescottcomputerguy.org?c>

No need to talk about it in CSMA one way or the other.

Okay. You have since said that, but as I said earlier, my original
intent had been to make up for the potentially damaging Set Theory
thread. Now that you have said this, I will not continue with that
goal beyond possibly replying to new posts. I still don't understand
what Steve was so irritated by in my earlier reply, though.

Thank you.

He feels picked on. He simply cannot understand the difference between
having something "tied to [a] business" and doing what he did - which his
ISP made him stop.

--
The direct use of physical force is so poor a solution to the problem of
limited resources that it is commonly employed only by small children and
great nations. - David Friedman

Where is the my lie? Point to it.

Yup, you... the guy who had to snip mention of the reality you created
away because he couldn't bear to look at it.

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Why aren't taking responsibility for *your* actions, Snit?

you've done. Snit?

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Prove you want to know where your lie is.

Come on, Steve, you called the last list of your lies that I posted
"babbling". Do a Google search for your name and "forge" and its
derivatives... you repeatedly lied and claimed I forged the PDF that proves
Sandman lied about his CSS.

--
Teachers open the door but you must walk through it yourself.

Said me, Steve... is this in contention?

>>  Take responsibility for your own actions.

> For example, in the very recent past, we have seen that the threats of

When you act in a reprehensible way your ISP shall be told. If that bothers

> Even if you believe some form of "...but he started it!..." rationale

> That's classical hypocracy. And it is all your's. No one forced

>> As far as you making claims against me, not you did not quote a single thing

--
"For example, user interfaces are _usually_ better in commercial software.
I'm not saying that this is always true, but in many cases the user
interface to a program is the most important part for a commercial
company..." Linus Torvalds <http://www.tlug.jp/docs/linus.html>

> On Apr 22, 11:11 am, -hh <recscuba_goo...@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> > Michael Glasser ... aka "Snit" <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > "-hh" <recscuba_goo...@huntzinger.com> stated:
> > > > Michael Glasser ... aka "Snit" <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> > > >> "Jesus" <rustybucket...@gmail.com> stated in post:
> > > >>> Well, guys, it's happened - searching for "michael glasser prescott
> > > >>> computer guy" on Google ranks Michael Glasser's (Snit's) thoughts on
> > > >>> Set Theory before his business web site.  As has been implied by
> > > >>> Michael (Snit), this could be potentially damaging to his reputation
> > > >>> as Prescott Computer Guy in Prescott, Arizona.  Now, while many may
> > > >>> believe most of Michael's writings on Usenet to be bullshit, that
> > > >>> doesn't mean his business should be affected the way it is now.
> > > >>> Clearly his thoughts on Set Theory should not be people's first
> > > >>> impressions of him if he wants to get any business.  So here I'd like
> > > >>> to appeal to everybody within CSMA to help our dear friend Michael
> > > >>> Glasser, Prescott Computer guy from Prescott, Arizona.  Use this
> > > >>> thread to say some of Michael's stronger points, perhaps some reasons
> > > >>> that people should patronize his business as Prescott Computer Guy,
> > > >>> thereby giving him an income to live on.  Be sure to mention that he
> > > >>> isMichaelGlasser, Prescott Computer Guy from Prescott, Arizona as
> > > >>> often as possible in your posts (Michael Glasser, Prescott Computer
> > > >>> Guy from Prescott, Arizona; Michael Glasser, Prescott Computer Guy
> > > >>> from Prescott, Arizona; Michael Glasser, Prescott Computer Guy from
> > > >>> Prescott, Arizona) so that we can beat out the potentially harmful
> > > >>> Set
> > > >>> Theory thread as the top ranking Google Search result.  Many may view
> > > >>> him as an asshole and a troll on Usenet, but that doesn't mean it's
> > > >>> not all of our duties to make sure his business as Prescott Computer
> > > >>> Guy isn't negatively impacted.  Thank you

> > > > The basic problem is that you're a hypocrite, Michael.

> > > >> opt to go that route.  Up until now I have not been seriously
> > > >> considering it
> > > >> - but you are right that there is clear indications of direct harm...
> > > >> the
> > > >> Google search you talk about is good support.
> >
> > > >> I am not saying I will be be contacting a lawyer... but I might.  I

> > > > Thank-you for documenting this threat of a lawsuit as your attempt to
> > > > intimidate others.
> >
> > > >> Frankly I just don't get why people would take a CSMA debate so
> > > >> seriously as
> > > >> to sink to such levels... I am frankly shocked at the number of people
> > > >> who
> > > >> sink to that level: Carroll, Adams, Sandman, Mackay, -hh.
> >
> > > > You were previously and clearly warned that your public statements
> > > > were libelous in nature.  That you then chose to persist was your
> > > > responsibility and a sign that you have been the aggressor.

> > > > See above:  "The problem is that you're a hypocrite, Michael."
> >
> > > > Now that people know that mentioning your real name and/or business is
> > > > a button-pusher, it will invariably be used as a tool against you
> > > > whenever you falsely accuse people of being "perverts" and so forth.
> > > > You have utterly no control in these retributions, for it is as per
> > > > what John Gilmore has written on the subject of trying to manipulate
> > > > information on the Internet:
> >
> > > > "The Internet interprets censorship as damage and routes around it".
> >
> > > > For a supposedly smart guy, you're really being quite stupid IMO for
> > > > not having already learned this lesson, and it has been through your
> > > > own actions that you've --> facilitated <-- it escalating to today,
> > > > where "Gosh!" your actions might actually result in actual economic
> > > > impact on your computer consulting business.   You can stop being such
> > > > a sniveling whining coward and step up to take responsibility for what
> > > > you have created through how you have chosen to act.
> >
> > > > In general, this means doing the opposite of calling others liars,
> > > > threatening lawsuits and other actions of what is commonly referred to
> > > > as being a 'fucking asshole'.
> >
> > > > Unfortunately, you've done such severe and long term damage to your
> > > > online reputation that you have a very long road ahead of you to
> > > > regain credibility.  I pointed this out to you two years ago and
> > > > you've not changed one bit.  Its not my life you're ruining, but your
> > > > own.  Just think what your daughter is going to think of you in
> > > > another few years when she puts 1+1 together and reads all of your
> > > > "Snit" personna rantings.
> >
> > > > Absolutely no one here forced you to sit down at a keyboard and post
> > > > to CSMA.  That's all your doing and your responsibility.  You've been
> > > > offered advice, but you've cavalierly disregarded and ignored it.
> >
> > > > As many an old school Grandma has said: "You made your bed, now lie in
> > > > it."

> > don't exist.  Listing any citation would have given you the excuse to

> > -hh
> >
> > --
> > One of the worst kinds of pathetic losers is the whiner.
>
> hh, you're even worse than Sandman! Whether you agree with Michael
> Glasser (Prescott Computer Guy from Prescott, Arizona) or not, the
> fact that his business name could be linked to such garbage on Google
> is completely unjustifiable.

The fact that Snit does things like forge posting IDs, create
disparaging websites, purposefully yank things out of context, nymshift
to avoid killfilters, writes trolling threads, creates sockpuppets, etc.
is completely unjustifiable. You wouldn't walk into a party... eat all
the food, drink all the booze, rape all the women, hit all the men
behind their back, steal all the silverware and puke on the guests
without being noticed. What Snit has done is tantamount to all of
this... and it's not justifiable. Snit himself made his info known on
this newsgroup... he has no one to thank but himself for how he has been
treated. You might ask yourself why people aren't responding to help
Snit? Why, after 5 days, hasn't anyone other than you, who started this
thread, responded to its call to what you've labeled "our duties"? The
silence is deafening.

Your inability to point to what you are alleging is my "lie" is duly
noted.

>> G (PCG from Prescott, Arizona) or not, the

Once again you are back to trying to link your lies to my business name.

As far as people not responding to this thread: nobody who posts to CSMA
other than me knows anything about my business... if you or others want to
know you can look at my web site:

<http://prescottcomputerguy.org?c>

The fact is, Steve, your actions have been despicable enough where you were
forced to quit by your ISP... shouldn't that tell you something about
yourself?

> In article <C434D464.B5415%use...@gallopinginsanity.com>,

Prove you want to know where your lie is.

Come on, Steve, you called the last list of your lies that I posted

I didn't mention your business name... you're lying... again.

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hey snit, the picture you have posted under
http://prescottcomputerguy.org/pcg/creative_imagery.html - it's a
relatively pleasant snap, but the background is blown, and the
foreground appears too dark. maybe a little fill flash, eh?

just out of curiosity, what equipment is your wife shooting?

We have an older Nikon 995. That image is a few years old, we will likely
replace it with a newer one sometime in the near future. Several of the
other images have been replaced in the last month or two.

Especially being that the image is listed in a "Photography" section it no
doubt needs to be a better image.

--
Do you ever wake up in a cold sweat wondering what the world would be
like if the Lamarckian view of evolution had ended up being accepted
over Darwin's?

yar. if you have the guts to charge money for photography using an
old, low mega pixel point and shoot, you should at least show she can
do some seriouly nice composition (ones that are, at least, correctly
exposed)!

As I said, no doubt it should be a better image. My wife and I have talked
about that... if nothing else we need a newer one.

--
It usually takes me more than three weeks to prepare a good impromptu
speech. -- Mark Twain

Yeah... you... the guy who had to snip mention of the reality you
created away because he couldn't bear to look at it... the guy who

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> is this in contention?

It's not in contention that you've done what I've stated above... that
you have admitted to.

I'm not debating it... I waiting for you to be responsible for your
actions by posting the proof that Elizabot asked you to write that
webpage about her... as you claimed.