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Council pulls trigger on gun clubs
globeandmail.com ^ | June 24, 2008 | JEFF GRAY AND JENNIFER LEWINGTON

Posted on 06/24/2008 2:53:45 PM PDT by neverdem

New ban, ouster of ranges at Union Station and in Scarborough among efforts to stem firearms crimes

Two gun clubs on city property - including one in the rafters of Union Station - will get the boot under Mayor David Miller's new rules aimed at curbing the number of handguns in the city, approved yesterday by city council.

After a near daylong debate, council voted 31-9 for a policy that prevents new gun clubs and manufacturers from setting up in the city.

The two affected gun clubs - the Scarborough Rifle Club at the Don Montgomery Community Recreation Centre, and the CNRA Gun Club at Union Station - will be given the opportunity to relocate elsewhere on private property.

Some right-leaning councillors criticized the move as a symbolic gesture that would punish law-abiding gun owners instead of criminals.

"It's as if we are using a paintball for Toronto's war on crime," said Councillor David Shiner (Ward 24, Willowdale).

But Mr. Miller and his allies cited police reports that show legal handguns are often stolen and used in crimes. In 2007, the Toronto Police Service said that 178 of 368 traceable crime guns seized by authorities were stolen from owners with a permit.

Mr. Miller, who has initiated a national campaign to persuade the federal government to completely ban handguns, said yesterday's decision was common sense, especially given the obvious security concerns at Union Station.

"You couldn't pick a worse place to have people wandering around with guns," Mr. Miller told reporters after the vote. "It's completely unacceptable from a public safety perspective."

He predicted that other gun clubs on private property in the city would eventually "wither away" as they close and new ones cannot be opened.

Councillor Denzil Minnan-Wong (Ward 34, Don Valley East), a frequent critic of...

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TOPICS: Canada; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Politics/Elections
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A hyphenated name that's not a nitwit. That's rare.
1 posted on 06/24/2008 2:53:45 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: fanfan

Symbolism alert!


2 posted on 06/24/2008 2:55:48 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: neverdem
Never mind that no British gun criminal ever set foot in a shooting range.
3 posted on 06/24/2008 2:56:34 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Public policy should never become the captive of a scientific-technological elite. -- Ike Eisenhower)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Never mind that no British gun criminal ever set foot in a shooting range.

Especially in Toronto. 8^)

4 posted on 06/24/2008 3:00:52 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Miller is our poison toad, I’m ashamed to say.


5 posted on 06/24/2008 3:01:14 PM PDT by coydog (Keep Canada green - paint a Liberal!)
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To: coydog

stem firearms crimes?

More like stemming gunners rights. chip-chip-chip
Got to be a Dhimmy, right?


6 posted on 06/24/2008 3:05:51 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U
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To: neverdem

Here’s an idea. How about getting a hellava lot tougher on criminals who break into homes of law abiding citizens and steal their guns? When will law enforcement, legislators, and judges come down hard on criminal using guns and leave gun owners alone?


7 posted on 06/24/2008 3:12:25 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Ask me again tomorrow.)
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To: neverdem; GMMAC; Clive; exg; kanawa; conniew; backhoe; -YYZ-; Former Proud Canadian; Squawk 8888; ..
Thanks for the ping, Neverdem.


8 posted on 06/24/2008 3:13:48 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: neverdem
What is not said is often times more important as what is not said.

In 2007, the Toronto Police Service said that 178 of 368 traceable crime guns seized by authorities were stolen from owners with a permit.

What is the total of gun crimes? How many of these were untraceable? Were there 30K gun crimes in 2007? If so, then only .5% of gun crimes were committed with stolen guns.

I don't know what the numbers are, but I do know that if the true numbers do not further the medias anti-gun agenda, they will not be reported.

9 posted on 06/24/2008 3:27:08 PM PDT by Sergio (If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he make a sound?)
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To: Sergio

Beat me to it.

Lies. Damn lies. .... And statistics.


10 posted on 06/24/2008 3:38:48 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: neverdem

11 posted on 06/24/2008 3:50:41 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee

LOL, well said!


12 posted on 06/24/2008 4:48:08 PM PDT by AprilfromTexas
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To: sam_paine

oh canada...oh BROTHER!


13 posted on 06/24/2008 5:13:12 PM PDT by flat
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To: neverdem
The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, Article 2 (http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/const/annex_e.html#I) appears to guarantee the right of peaceful assembly and the right of association.

And then we have the 'right to security of the person' in Article 7.

Except for the 'reasonable limits' clause of Article 1...

Time to find the duct tape, before my head explodes.

14 posted on 06/24/2008 9:04:13 PM PDT by castlebrew (Gun control means hitting where you intended to!)
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