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Radu Focshaner

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Sep 18, 2001, 7:22:20 AM9/18/01
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Amazing grace! (how sweet the sound)
That sav’d a wretch like me!
I once was lost, but now am found,
Was blind, but now I see.

’Twas grace that taught my heart to fear,
And grace my fears reliev’d;
How precious did that grace appear,
The hour I first believ’d!

Thro’ many dangers, toils and snares,
I have already come;
’Tis grace has brought me safe thus far,
And grace will lead me home.

The Lord has promis’d good to me,
His word my hope secures;
He will my shield and portion be,
As long as life endures.

Yes, when this flesh and heart shall fail,
And mortal life shall cease;
I shall possess, within the veil,
A life of joy and peace.

The earth shall soon dissolve like snow,
The sun forbear to shine;
But God, who call’d me here below,
Will be forever mine.

Larry

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Sep 18, 2001, 12:59:15 AM9/18/01
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>Amazing grace! (how sweet the sound)
> That sav’d a wretch like me!
>I once was lost, but now am found,
> Was blind, but now I see.


I understand. Thank you.


Larry Fletcher
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Radu Focshaner

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Sep 18, 2001, 2:34:48 PM9/18/01
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Larry wrote:
>
> >Amazing grace! (how sweet the sound)

>
> I understand. Thank you.

I wondered why this hymn was not heard this week. So I brought here the
words, in hope that at least by reading them people will sing the hymn
in their hearts.

Martin Paton

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Sep 18, 2001, 6:38:55 AM9/18/01
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On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 11:34:48 -0700, Radu Focshaner <ra...@writeme.com>
wrote:

>I wondered why this hymn was not heard this week. So I brought here the
>words, in hope that at least by reading them people will sing the hymn
>in their hearts.

I've heard it about 200 times too many.

Larry

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Sep 18, 2001, 12:41:50 PM9/18/01
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>I wondered why this hymn was not heard this week. So I brought here the
>words, in hope that at least by reading them people will sing the hymn
>in their hearts.
>

I've heard it several times. There was one news story on TV where it seems
that a group of people on the street stopped to look at something from the
devistation, and the song just broke out spontaneously.

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Tom Shaw

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Sep 18, 2001, 5:00:08 PM9/18/01
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Fortunately I didn't hear what he said since I have long since kill-filed
him. Sorry Radu.
TS
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> "Martin Paton" <mpato...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Have you ANYTHING useful to offer in the face of this tragedy, aside from
> your non-stop bashing of Americans and how we are dealing with this?
>
>
>


Chris Aher

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Sep 18, 2001, 6:04:32 PM9/18/01
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Radu,

I would also like to thank you for the thoughts in your several postings.
Your humanistic perspective is sorely needed.

I attended a Catholic funeral mass (not related to the tragedy) for the
father of a long time friend and colleague this morning. The priest, at the
request of the family lead the congregation in "Amazing Grace", which is a
Protestant hymn BTW, and dedicated it to the victims of the WTC tragedy.

Fred, who was 93, immigrated from Sicily in 1919 and worked in the
laundry/dry cleaning business for his whole life. The service had about 50
people in attendance, just close family and friends, of which I knew more
than half. Looking around at the folks there made me realize that the
terrorists and their religious extremist masters will never succeed in their
real goal, which is the destruction of western civilization.

In this small, unimportant (to anybody but us) gathering of regular folks,
who will never have, nor want their 15 minutes of fame, were people of at
least five (Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Muslim and Buddhist) different
faiths and any number of races and ethnic backgrounds there to celebrate the
life and mourn the passing of a friend and family patriarch. This is the
real strength of our culture. It doesn't always show but it is always
there. We may be a mongrel breed but we are strong because of it.

Thanks again,

Chris

PS I will listen to the Mozart Double w/Perlman & Zukerman tonight. It will
calm my soul.


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Martin Paton

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Sep 18, 2001, 7:55:22 PM9/18/01
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On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:40:36 GMT, "Greg Shultz"
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>> I've heard it about 200 times too many.
>

>Have you ANYTHING useful to offer in the face of this tragedy, aside from
>your non-stop bashing of Americans and how we are dealing with this?

I haven't bashed anyone. I've said I've heard "Amazing Grace" 200
times too many. It's been playing on every TV channel I've turned to
that is covering this (pretty much all of them)

I'm sure you'd feel the same way if all your TV stations were playing
the funeral march over and over agaiin.

jdjdjd

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Sep 18, 2001, 8:00:53 PM9/18/01
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On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 11:38:55 +0100, Martin Paton
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>I've heard it about 200 times too many.

I hope you catch some friendly fire to the back of the head....trash.

Lee Bowman

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Sep 19, 2001, 10:52:01 PM9/19/01
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>Looking around at the folks there made me realize that the
>terrorists and their religious extremist masters will never succeed in their
>real goal, which is the destruction of western civilization.

The extremists are the Moslem (Muslim) ultra conservatives who are
following the Koran to the letter, especially book 5 (Medina era).

Sura 57, injunction to fight, Sura 61, war/ speedy victory, Sura 62,
Jews denounced for ignorance, Sura 9, war is declared against Jews and
Christians until they are humbled and pay tribute. By the way, there
is no prohibition against murdering an infidel (a non Moslem).

Here's the short version, 'All the infidel needs to know about the
Koran, but is embarrased to ask.'

http://www.hindutva.org/KoranKafir/

Tom Shaw

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Sep 20, 2001, 10:59:00 AM9/20/01
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Muslims all over the world are denying what you wrote. How dare you say
that the Muslims are not benign? As far as their claims about not killing
there are Muslim folks killing people right and left as far away from Mecca
as the Philippines. Give me a break.
TS
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greg presley

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Sep 21, 2001, 2:37:30 AM9/21/01
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I think Lee Bowman's source cannot be considered a completely unbiased one,
since in going to the web site and reading it, one of the dedications was to
the many Hindus killed by Muslims (it is apparently a Hindu website). Many
thousands of Muslims have been killed by Hindus as well, but that was not
mentioned. I suspect, that just as the old Testament of our Bible has many
injunctions that we don't follow (and consider relics of a bygone culture),
such as the many many offenses that require that the sinner be stoned to
death, the Koran probably has many injunctions that most modern followers
don't consider crucial to the essential message.(I find it utterly
unreadable myself, but that's a separate issue). However, just as we have
fundamentalist nutcakes who selectively pick out some of those old testament
passages that they like from the Bible to bash people they don't agree with,
while conveniently forgetting about the many injunctions that they don't
follow themselves, I think Muslims have fundamentalist nutcakes as well, who
dig around for some obscure passages to justify insane actions. Maybe they
have more fundamentalist nutcakes than we do, I don't know, but I don't
think we can judge the whole religion by those. There have been eras in
Christian history where people who wouldn't convert to Christianity were
slaughtered as well, and not so very far back in time. (Native American
tribes in both South and North America for instance). We HOPE we have grown
out of that way of interpreting our own holy books, but only time will tell.
Greg
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Tispe

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Sep 22, 2001, 7:48:06 PM9/22/01
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Personally I would like to hear "Let there be peace on earth" just once!!!!!

Tispe


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