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Old 04-30-2008, 05:59 AM   #1
MattBrady
 
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS REPORTS ON DCU #0's RETURN - SPOILERS

Stealing a page from other mainstream comic book coverage, The New York Daily News is giving away what was supposed to be a secret, surprise ending in this morning’s edition, and is reporting, well…hang on….

SPOILER WARNINGS FOR DC UNIVERSE #0

SERIOUSLY…

The Daily News is reporting that Barry Allen returns in the last panel of DC Universe #0 due in comic book shops today.

Defending the move (though technically neither writer confirms the return via a quote), the Daily News quotes DC Universe #0 co-writer Grant Morrison who said:

"We can do anything with them, and we can make them come back and make them defy death. And that's why people read comics, to get away from the way life works, which is quite cruel and unheroic and ends in death."

And speaking about the importance of the character to modern comics (Barry Allen was the first Golden Age character revived in a new, more science fiction fashion by DC Editor Julie Schwartz, a move which jump-started the Silver Age of comics in 1956), the Daily News quoted Geoff Johns saying, “Without Barry Allen, we'd still be reading comic books about cowboys."

Johns also adds: "When the greatest evil comes back to the DC Universe, the greatest hero needed to return," with Morrison adding, “He's the God of the modern world. People are doing more everyday, moving faster and I think the Flash can be their hero. I do think he's a superhero for now."

Also, interestingly, the newspaper refers to Johns as the co-writer of the new Flash comics.

Look for an interview with DCU executive Editor Dan DiDio about the issue this afternoon on Newsarama.
 
Old 04-30-2008, 06:19 AM   #2
SoopDawg
 
WOW!! I'm getting 2 copies of this. I can't wait!!!
 
Old 04-30-2008, 06:20 AM   #3
md62
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MattBrady
Also, interestingly, the newspaper refers to Johns as the co-writer of the new Flash comics

What???
 
Old 04-30-2008, 06:20 AM   #4
Beefcliff
 
Well, most of us saw this coming anyway. Just hope the story is good and they have a plan to use him correctly!
 
Old 04-30-2008, 06:21 AM   #5
chrissama200
 
I hope he's not back for good. I loved the character and had been optimistic about Final Crisis, but if he's back for good, I'll be disappointed. After the way he died, what else is there for the character to do? If he ever returned to his own book, the stakes would never be as high as when he sacrificed his life, and there have been newer incarnations since his death that fans have accepted and grown fond of. I haven't read this issue yet, but going on the article, I hope it's just something like "The Return of Barry Allen" story and not the real thing.
 
Old 04-30-2008, 06:25 AM   #6
nietoperz
 
I really hope he's not back for good.
 
Old 04-30-2008, 06:26 AM   #7
Michael Heide
 
I'm having a very bad feeling about this.
 
Old 04-30-2008, 06:33 AM   #8
dmarvp
 
I wasn't going to read this article but then I said to myself... it's barry allen, who else could it be ? well... I just hope that they make this return worth. And I have faith in Jhons and his good use of older ideas and characters... tough I have to say that this move was the one thing that I tought he was never going to do.
 
Old 04-30-2008, 06:38 AM   #9
Punchy
 
Bad idea.
 
Old 04-30-2008, 06:42 AM   #10
bsmith
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by chrissama200
I hope he's not back for good. I loved the character and had been optimistic about Final Crisis, but if he's back for good, I'll be disappointed. After the way he died, what else is there for the character to do? If he ever returned to his own book, the stakes would never be as high as when he sacrificed his life, and there have been newer incarnations since his death that fans have accepted and grown fond of. I haven't read this issue yet, but going on the article, I hope it's just something like "The Return of Barry Allen" story and not the real thing.

I totally agree - back in his run, G. Johns said that Barry A. would come back 3 times, and I think he came back twice in Flash. So one more time for the Big One would make sense.

But having him back permanently? Destroys the impact of the ONE DC death that actually means anything! And like you mention, what else can the guy do? Flash is the one legacy character that has been established as such for a long time, why not celebrate that.

K*.
 
Old 04-30-2008, 06:55 AM   #11
Tomwaitsfan
 
I love Barry but I am not so sure this is such a good idea. Remember Fastest Man Alive?
 
Old 04-30-2008, 06:58 AM   #12
dmarvp
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bsmith
I totally agree - back in his run, G. Johns said that Barry A. would come back 3 times, and I think he came back twice in Flash. So one more time for the Big One would make sense.

But having him back permanently? Destroys the impact of the ONE DC death that actually means anything! And like you mention, what else can the guy do? Flash is the one legacy character that has been established as such for a long time, why not celebrate that.

K*.

you are right, last night I remembered about the three times barry said he would come back. I hope this is the third and last he was refering to (and obviously there must be a super important reason for it to be). But also, I don't think I want him to stay either.

I don't know, I trust Johns, but I'm confused about this
 
Old 04-30-2008, 07:01 AM   #13
speedfreak
 
I'm torn.

On the one hand I think a DCU with Barry Allen in it seems a more concrete, balanced and cohesive universe than one without him. And I like the metatextual implications, of how you're now able to view the Barryless years as a chapter in the history of the DCU as a whole in the larger context of a history that once again stretches from the golden age to the present.

At the same time, I wonder what'll happen to Wally, and other people's points here about what is there left for Barry to do etc. may have some validity.

Weird, I don't think I've ever read a Barry Allen Flash story aside from the first Crisis, but I'm almost willing to come out in favour of this move.
 
Old 04-30-2008, 07:02 AM   #14
snikt_city
 
He's a skrull

Agreed with Beefcliff. It was only a matter of time before he was brought back. Let's just hope that it's done well and is exciting. I'll take my chances with Morrison and Johns bringing him back as opposed to say, Countdown.
 
Old 04-30-2008, 07:04 AM   #15
Wormdrink
 
maybe barry is gonna be the Flash of Death? i saw that pic a while back of a Flash in a black outfit and a skull-looking face. i'm sure i'm wrong, but i'd almost rather have that than have him back on FT basis.

and if Barry's back full time, then where does that leave Wally?
 
Old 04-30-2008, 07:06 AM   #16
#O.N.E
 
I don't think Barry is the greatest hero...
 
Old 04-30-2008, 07:11 AM   #17
Dave Phelps
 
Disappointing news, but not unexpected. (Didio said the last panel would show where "they're taking the DCU" - apparently it's back to the 70s.)

Quote:
Originally Posted by bsmith
I totally agree - back in his run, G. Johns said that Barry A. would come back 3 times, and I think he came back twice in Flash. So one more time for the Big One would make sense.

But having him back permanently? Destroys the impact of the ONE DC death that actually means anything! And like you mention, what else can the guy do? Flash is the one legacy character that has been established as such for a long time, why not celebrate that.

K*.

I agree completely. Bringing him back for one last hurrah would be fun. Bringing him back for good, not so much.

To be honest, this would pretty much kill DC for me. The sense that "anything could happen" that came from DC killing him off in the first place is what solidified me as a DC fan in the first place. Bringing him back just says to me there isn't a story out there that won't be messed with if you wait long enough. That just makes it hard to care about any of them.
 
Old 04-30-2008, 07:18 AM   #18
StripedTiger
 
Well I know folks will hate the idea, but like Wildcat says in JSA....there have been two or more Green Lanterns around for years. Why not two Wildcats?

...or in this case, Flashes? Wally could stick with the Titans and raise his kids while Barry did the JLA thing.

...or they could just kill one or the other again just for the hell of it... A 30 year old Barry running around after a 65 year old Iris could be a little too "Harold and Maude" for DC's tastes...
 
Old 04-30-2008, 07:19 AM   #19
vbartilucci
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Phelps
The sense that "anything could happen" that came from DC killing him off in the first place is what solidified me as a DC fan in the first place. Bringing him back just says to me there isn't a story out there that won't be messed with if you wait long enough.
Well, bringing him back would come under the umbrella of "anything", wouldn't it?

But I'm with the folks who think this is the "third time" Barry spoke of.

But of course, if they play him up and do as much with him as they did the assorted characters in 52 and Countdown, in nine months we'll be yelling about how they DIDN'T keep him alive after doing so much with him.

No pleasing us, is there?
 
Old 04-30-2008, 07:21 AM   #20
Guicho
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MattBrady


Johns also adds: "When the greatest evil comes back to the DC Universe, the greatest hero needed to return," with Morrison adding, “He's the God of the modern world. People are doing more everyday, moving faster and I think the Flash can be their hero. I do think he's a superhero for now."
Freakin Yay! These characters are all bigger than life anyway.
Good for them.
All they need to do to justify his return is prove the character still has life in him by writing good stories with him.
That is what matters.

Last edited by Guicho : 04-30-2008 at 07:24 AM.
 
Old 04-30-2008, 07:23 AM   #21
Boomtube
 
It might work. Lord knows the Flash franchise needs a shot in the arm right about now, and given the creative and financial success DC and Johns had (and continue to have) with the resurrection of Hal Jordan, this move shouldn't come as a huge surprise to anyone.
 
Old 04-30-2008, 07:24 AM   #22
Lupek
 
THANK YOU DC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Now please sell me a Barry/Flash book!!!!!!!
 
Old 04-30-2008, 07:28 AM   #23
dmarvp
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bsmith
I totally agree - back in his run, G. Johns said that Barry A. would come back 3 times, and I think he came back twice in Flash. So one more time for the Big One would make sense.

But having him back permanently? Destroys the impact of the ONE DC death that actually means anything! And like you mention, what else can the guy do? Flash is the one legacy character that has been established as such for a long time, why not celebrate that.

K*.

you are right, last night I remembered about the three times barry said he would come back. I hope this is the third and last he was refering to (and obviously there must be a super important reason for it to be). But also, I don't think I want him to stay either.

I don't know, I trust Johns, but I'm confused about this
 
Old 04-30-2008, 07:33 AM   #24
nietoperz
 
It's true - as I recall, Barry told Wally he'd reappear on the three worst days of his life. We've had two of those, I guess Final Crisis will see the third.
 
Old 04-30-2008, 07:39 AM   #25
MCaputo
 
I love the fact that after all the kajillions of bytes devoted to slamming Morrison as a writer who works over the heads of most readers, he gets the most and most wide-reaching press of his career in the Daily News.

And best of all, he gets why we read comics.
 
 
   

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