Sarcoidosis Answers for Physicians, Nurses and Patients

Here at SarcInfo, between 2002 and 2004, we identified the cause of Sarcoidosis, and successfully trialled a curative antimicrobial therapy. During 2005 and 2006 the US FDA designated the antibiotics Clindamycin and Minocycline as Orphan Products in the treatment of Sarcoidosis, and studies are ongoing elsewhere.

For information about this breakthrough, please post your questions at the current study-site, or the Autoimmunity Research Foundation.
 
This archive of the historic study is maintained by volunteers from the Foundation. The material here provides useful background, but much of it is now out-of-date.

** Patient Tutorials **

 Click here to read "WHY DID I GET SARCOIDOSIS? WHY ME? 

  Click here to read "REMISSION IN SARCOIDOSIS"  

 How a Pathologist can see Bacteria causing Sarcoidosis 

"How does Doctor measure my ACE, and my D-metabolites?"

 Weaning from Prednisone

 Protecting your eyes in Sarcoidosis

Vit.D and Calcium in Sarcoidosis

Hypervitaminosis D Symptoms    The SarcInfo F.A.Q.

Medical Abbreviations          CBC Radio Show

Protocol Phase 1-First 3 months

 

** Papers for Physicians **

Antibacterial Therapy induces Remission 

Implications for Autoimmune Disease 
(Here is Fulltext preprint)

Antibacterial mechanisms for ARBs 

Antibiotics in Sarcoidosis- The 1st Year 

Rationale for abx in Sarcoidosis 

1,25-D and Angiotensin II

"New Treatments Emerge.."

Jarisch-Herxheimer in Sarcoidosis

Vit.D and Calcium in Sarcoidosis

Protocol Phase 1-First 3 months

The NIH ACCESS Study finds Sarcoidosis does not go away - Click here to see, and print, the brochure


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 Archived SUCCESS stories- please do not post here
Author: Susan (167.7.251.---)
Date:   12-12-02 06:22

Hello, I wanted to let everyone know that my pulmonologist prescribed Doxicycline for me at a dose of 100 mg bid. I was diagnosed with sarcoidosis in February 2002, after having very swollen lymph nodes in my neck, and also noticing that when running I couldn't seem to get my breath. I felt very well, though, and wasn't sick. After being diagnosed via lymph node biopsy, I was given Prednisone and later Methylprednisolone. I felt well up until a few months ago, and started having very strange pains all over, which would go away eventually. I also started sweating a lot - both at night and during the day, and felt that I had an infection. My lymph nodes were still swollen, my throat hurt on and off, my nose was very stuffy at night, etc. Anyway, I finally told my pulmonologist how bad I was feeling, so she did research, and agreed to prescribe Doxicycline at the above dosage.

Maybe I'm premature in telling everyone (at first I felt really well with Prednisone, too), but I am feeling much better! Thank you so much! I often thought I needed some type of antibiotics - the doctors never even gave me any all this time, except for a very short course of Keflex when I first had my swollen lymph nodes. I am weaning off of Medrol, my lymph nodes are getting smaller, and I am not sweating!! I don't seem to have any aches or pains, either! As I said, I hope I am not premature in saying how well I feel, but with this disease, people have to make the best of each day!! As I am a Stage IV (pulmonary and elevated liver enzymes), I will have to see how this helps my lungs, but even with fibrosis, I still run and exercise.

Note: I have not had any bloodwork done in a while to see if I have any active inflammation from sarcoid, including the ones Trevor suggested, but it doesn't matter, because I know I feel better and I knew I had an infection of some sort (swollen lymph nodes and sweats should indicate something!!) Anyway, thank you and I hope this new knowledge helps a lot of people.

Moderator's Note: We do not recommend doxycycline because we've found that minocycline (a different tetracycline) is a more reliable drug therapy.

 
 Re: ** Success stories- Antibiotics are fixing me
Author: Meg (---.188.244.147.euc.wi.charter.com)
Date:   01-11-03 19:13

For those of you who may be unconvinced of the effectiveness of Dr. Marshall's protocol, I'd like to share my success story.

In Feb 2002, I consulted a neurologist regarding the progressive numbness/weakness/atrophy of my left foot/leg and was eventually diagnosed with tibial neuropathy, etiology unknown. A couple months later, a CT scan to assess a unilateral sternal thickening was inconclusive but revealed multiple lung nodules and prominent lymph nodes. The neurologist connected these symptoms and suggested sarcoidosis. Because the sACE was negative and my symptoms were not debilitating, he recommended wait and watch. Searching the Internet, I came to the conclusion that I had many features of Sarcoidosis: history of skin lesions, fatigue, night sweats, neuropathy, numbness/tingling of my hands, joint pain, irritability, photophobia, muscle pains/weakness, leg cramps, dizziness, nasal congestion, history of red eye, cutaneous anergy, hypergammaglobulinemia, etc.

Eventually, I came across Dr. Marshall’s paper on Remission in Sarcoidosis and was prompted to consult with a pulmonologist and then an ophthalmologist. Frustratingly, I had no suspicious tissue to biopsy and these specialists were uninterested in an unproven treatment. Nevertheless, I discontinued Vitamin D supplementation and began avoiding foods containing Vitamin D. Within 2 days, my severe nocturnal leg cramps had resolved. I tried, with limited success, to avoid sunlight and bright light exposure. I also renewed my prescription for tetracycline which had previously kept my skin lesions under control. At my request, my primary physician, an internist, ordered the D-metabolite testing. As before, my sACE came back within normal range but the 25-D was elevated at 25 (probably reflecting previous Vitamin D supplementation) and the 1,25-D was elevated at 38.

On 12/23/02, I began taking 40mg of Benicar every 8hrs. By that time I was having significant, immediate adverse reactions to minimal sunlight exposure and delayed debilitating fatigue. During the first week of ARB therapy, I experienced an increase in symptoms, especially fatigue, but then I noticed a significant increase in my energy level.

One week later, I began taking 100mg of Minocin every other day. I have experienced a variety of Herxheimer reactions, most mild but one severe enough to confine me to bed for 12 hrs. After each Herxheimer episode I have noticed an improvement in various symptoms. My nasal congestion no longer requires a steroid spray and I have fewer sharp joint pains. I no longer routinely nap once or twice a day and my energy level improves daily. My legs are stronger and less achy. The skin lesions that developed as a result of Herxheimers disappeared quickly. Night sweats are less frequent and probably related to Herxheimers. I no longer get dizzy and disoriented with minimal sunlight exposure since I now have good eye protection with the NoIR sunglasses.

This represents an approximate 50-60% improvement in my symptoms with only seven every other day doses of Minocin. I am confident that these measures are effecting a decrease in my level of 1,25-D. I will recheck the D-metabolite levels in 2 months but the increase in my quality of life is immeasurable. My future's so bright, I'm glad I'm wearing shades!!

Meg

Addendum: One month post initiation of ARB and antibiotic therapy, my symptoms continue to abate in an erratic pattern. Most excitingly, my numb left foot and lower leg are painfully and slowly coming back to life.

Addendum #2: It's been four months since I started taking Benicar, then Minocin, then B. I have experienced a variety of Herxheimer reactions and the gradual resolution of most of my symptoms. My D-metabolites at a 3 month recheck had reduced considerably, to the point where the Herxheimer reactions are now minimal. Coinciding with that, just the past couple weeks, my energy level has amazed me. I can now, once again, work a full day without abnormal fatigue, my brain fog is gone, I'm no longer irritable, all my skin lesions are gone, the joint pains have disappeared along with stiffness and leg cramps. I still have some left tibial neuropathy to resolve but my foot is 80% less numb and my legs have almost recovered their strength. My nasal passages are clearer but seem to be the most stubborn of the symptoms to relieve. But all in all, this has been an incredible journey. I've taken some simple, slightly inconvenient lifestyle and dietary measures, some trusted antibiotics and a safe anti-inflammatory agent. I paid the price with the Hersheimer reactions which only proved to me that Trevor is right. Now, I am reaping the benefits of feeling well and I know I will eventually be completely disease-free.

Addendum #3: I've had five months of ARB and antibiotic therapy now. My Herxheimer reactions are pretty mild which is really nice. But I can still feel the antibiotic working to resolve my tibial neuropathy as my left leg reacts with increased weakness, achiness and cramps. The most exciting development is that I can now wiggle those toes that were paralyzed due to atrophied muscles from denervation. Won't my neurologist be surprised?

Addendum #4: It's been 8 months now and I'm still improving. I've increased the frequency of the Benicar to every 6 hrs. which has helped counteract the Herxheimer reactions. I am able to tolerate 200mg (the maximum) of minocycline every other day. If I forget a dose of Benicar, I am aware within the hour as symptoms of fatigue, irritability and legs aching make normal activities more difficult. Other Herx symptoms such as night sweats, leg cramps, skin lesions, nasal stuffiness, hand numbness and minor pains come and go. Just last week I found that I couldn't see the computer properly with my indoor NoIR sunglasses on and now I can view the screen in comfort without them. The foot numbness is 95% better, my legs are stronger and I can usually breathe through my nose with ease, but I won't settle for anything less than 100% resolution of all my sarc symptoms.

Addendum #5: I saw my Mayo neurologist after nine months of treatment with Benicar and antibiotics. Since he did not prescribe this treatment, he was surprised to find that my tibial neuropathy had considerably improved. He noted increased foot strength and was able to elicit an ankle reflex that I had lost. He was impressed enough to order a short trial of Z. The combination of minocycline and Z is provoking increased Herxheimer reaction and helping to resolve the lingering leg weakness/numbness and fatigue that are my chief complaints now.

Moderator note: The maximum dose of mino is now 100mg every other day.

 
 Re: ** Success stories- ARBs or Antibiotics are fixing me
Author: Admin (---.vnnyca.adelphia.net)
Date:   01-25-03 16:01

Remission is not 'returning to normal'.

I have been transported somewhere, somewhere I never remember being before. Where my mind is again fully my own, and fully under my control. Where I have no unusual aches and pains. Where I wake up, each day, looking forward to all the stuff I will get done.

Never do I remember any existence like this - it is 'surreal', not 'normal'...

..Trevor..

 
 Re: ** Success stories- ARBs or Antibiotics are fixing me
Author: Lana (---.vnnyca.adelphia.net)
Date:   01-29-03 16:09

Trevor - This is in reply to Phil's question regarding the Success Story thread.

I am embarrassed to say that I had not seen the thread as there are
so many. I will go on record as saying that I am 100% convinced that Trevor's recommendations need to be followed. Avoiding the sun is not easy - Avoiding dietary Vit D is not hard - for milk, since the U.S. has added Vit D to our milk - I just take Half and Half, which does not have Vit D added to it - and put 2 tablespoons to a cup of water. Instant Milk! I am still on my doxy q.o.d. and am weaning from pred. Whenvever I do see my doc again, (I've seen them, up until 3 months ago almost every week for almost 4 years - and most of those were spent taking blood because I was on methotrexate or Imuran!) I don't want to go back but I will have some bloodwork done to follow up on D levels as well as cholesterol, etc. The fact that I haven't seen them these last few months is indicative of the fact that I am getting so much better!

Even my family is commenting on it. I can talk without taking seconds to replenish my air between phrases, I don't get choked nearly as much and I sent back my oxygen machine. I'm still on cpap but that will probably last until I get this prednisone weight off. My response is not technical (duh, could you tell?) but definitely heartfelt) While I am still on the road to recovery, I consider myself a success story.

....Lana

 
 Another success story here
Author: Vickie (---.gci.net)
Date:   02-02-03 12:01

I was diagosed in April 2000 with pulmonary Sarcoidosis after a visit to the ER for chest pain led to a scary looking chest x ray; they said it was either Sarcoidosis or lymphoma, or an enlarged pulmonary artery. I saw a heart specialist, then a pulmonologist who did a thoracic CT scan and confirmed Sarcoidosis.

Side note, though: I had had a similar experience -- crushing sternum pressure leading to an ER visit and a chest x ray -- about 7 years before that, had a tentative diagnosis of Sarc, but the pulmonologist said my ACE levels were "normal" and said I just had enlarged lymph nodes because of my size (I'm a chubby chick) and that the chest pain was from pulling a muscle. When the doc here in Alaska got my records from that doc in Seattle to get the "big picture", my ACE levels had been clearly high -- 67 is the number, I believe. So I apparently had Sarc "way back then", something which explains the sternum pain, fatigue, nasal symptoms etc that I experienced over the years.

Anyway, immediately after my diagnosis in 2000 I went to my holistic MD who is a friend of my inlaws who had had some luck in treating Sarc patients with antibiotics. I actually saw a nurse practitioner in her office, who remains my NP to this day. She tested me for Mycoplasma (and both my IgG and IgM were high indicating a long term and acute infection) and started me on the Doxycycline every three days. She also put me on some supplements for chronic fatigue and autoimmunity.

Within a week or two my fatigue was just about GONE. I still had a cough, which took a few months to resolve but I had more energy than I knew what to do with. Over time the traveling joint pain (which I hadn't really associated with Sarc right away) has gone, too. I've been on the protocol since 2000 and I'm doing much, much better. I have a little cough in the morning after my shower but not nearly as bad as it was; it used to be so bad that I wouldn't be able to catch my breath and would even (TMI alert) vomit. The traveling joint pain is gone. My retrosternum pain is gone, and I'm doing much better.

I'm currently in nursing school full time (doing clinicals so I'm on my feet a lot), run a business with my husband, and care for three children. All with this autoimmune disease. And I'm getting straight A's. My Chest x rays still show hilar lymphadenopathy, but it's stable and has been for years now. The only thing I do notice is that if my hubby or kids get sick, rather than getting ill myself, my sarc flares a bit -- my arm pit lymph nodes swell and hurt a little, my sternum hurts and it's not so easy getting up the stairs. I hardly ever get sick now, ever. Also, I've tried going off the antibiotics a couple of times and within a few weeks or a month am back to square one. So, while I don't think I'm cured, the antibiotics have contributed greatly to my quality of life and have every intention of staying on them forever.

The only side effect from the antibiotics is a persistent systemic yeast infection. My NP has me on nystatin and an herbal candida treatment, as well as a ton of acidophilus every day. When I'm religious about taking it, it's tolerable, but it's something I always have to be aware of and watch the amount of sugar I eat (which I do anyway).

Another side note: In the last six months I've been diagnosed with labile hypertension (no doubt partly from the stress of school, kids and business) and was put on an ACE inhibitor. I've noticed that when I'm regular with my meds, my sarc feels better. When I forget to take it, I feel worse, including my sarc (I just put two and two together today about the ACE inhibitor and Sarc) and my blood pressure skyrockets. So I'm going to talk to my nurse practitioner about maybe switching me to an ARB which would treat both my hypertension and the Sarcoidosis.

So yes, this does work. And if my only side effect is a treatable candida infection, I can live with that. Because at least now I'm living.

 
 Re: ** Success stories- ARBs or Antibiotics are fixing me
Author: Bastiana (---.olympus.planet.nl)
Date:   02-03-03 06:24

Today is day 15 since I started on minocycline, 50 mg every other day.

I was reactivated in August, working in full sunshine in the garden to cure myself from a 'burn-out'. And from the psychological terror I put on myself because of a hundred 'unsolved sensations'. What was wrong with me??

Being diagnosed in 1978 with sarcoidosis, and able to deliver an X-ray which showed remission within a year being on anthroposofical medication, I had never given sarcoidosis another thought. I assumed not to have this illness anymore...! Still I had a long way to go with my 'strange head complaints' nobody could ever identify....

Finally landing on this site, I was able to make my own diagnose: the X-ray showed a diffuse picture; stadium 2 of sarcoidosis (now they maintain 3 stages in Holland).

I have never been on any medication, besides the anthroposofical. All primaries I have had, were never able to identify my constant (diffuse) complaints. It was marked as 'psychosomatic complex' although they were informed about my diagnose in 1978 of sarcoidosis stage V.

I started the minocycline, after I had gained a full perspective of the symptoms of a high 1,25 D level. I was able to identify it's 'taste'. Also the effect of sunlight, were amazingly symptoms that I could identify. At least this brought me to a to a normal sense. So many things fell on their place.

But still, this immense perspective didn't find a 'discussion level' with my doctors. The neurologist my pulmonary sent me to, didn't give in one inch, of me being a sort of hypochondriac; he needed 'research' before he could encounter my sayings. Till then, my sensations were disqualified. The pulmonary was more open for new perspectives, but didn't have time. And so on.

As my pulmonary was postponing a next appointment, as she had not had time to read all the documentation, I sort of appealed to another doctor for the therapy. I felt the bouncing on my pillow, and was afraid of loosing more of my hearing. I asked my general doctor to write a prescription for antibiotics.

I am happy to have chosen a low dosage, and I would recommend those, not being able to get the ARB's even to start lower as this.

The little pill of 50mg provoked a earthquake in my system....I was happy that Belinda was always on my side as a buddy, as the sensations were so thorough in my whole system, that I went to real anxiousness episodes. Healing from sarcoidosis that (although I was in a so-called remission for years) has been in the body for 25 years, is really FEARFUL, strange enough...Regaining body sensations, that you lost for such a long time, even puts a sort of stress on your normal sanity...

Now after two weeks I can still feel the deep operation the minocycline is doing in my body; but I am a different person now.

The strangest thing visible from the outside, is that all my muddy spots have vanished! Belly, upper arms, cheeks, all over I seem to reclaim my 'old body' ! I have absolutely no explanation for this! Trevor?

About the 'inner side' I have asked Belinda to make a little book from her diary. As the sensations are so weird somehow, that if strangers would read it, an impression of a silly kind of hysteria, or at least 'physical pre-occupation' wouldn't be at all that incomprehensible for me!

Two weeks ago, I was a ruin; apathetic and capable of almost nothing. Now my metabolic process (goodness, my old dictionary does not have the medical word for '@!#$'! sorry!) has normalized, my movements seem to have regained their speed and flexibility, and for the first time in a long time, I started also to LIKE things of normal life again. Enjoying, looking forward etc. I had completely lost a future view. The light in my eyes is not as painful anymore, as it was two weeks ago. Still I protect them!

So, with my immense improvement I certainly also somehow enjoy my independence from the medical system, in perspective, in ability and time, in having to cope with my presumed 'psychosomatic complex'...'fatigue'... and other symptoms they didn't understand. Of course I am 'tired'; but still this is a complete understatement in my view.

I do want to gain enlarged perspectives on the anthroposofical view on the disbalance in the D-metabolisms, and adjusted medication. As I do not prefer to be on antibiotics a lifetime. But this is still in process.

Also, I am very amazed by the high dosage of antibiotics you all take. And I wonder whether it might be possible that lower dosage might have stronger effects?

Bastiana

 
 Re: ** Success stories- ARBs or Antibiotics are fixing me
Author: Sylva & David (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   02-11-03 08:12

I am feeling very bold this morning to write a response under this topic. But I do want to share the good because it has been very hard for so very long.

I can see improvements in my husband's condition! Little things. After 4 weeks of Minocin, almost qod (herx too severe to always be qod), his herx lasted only about 36 hours this last time. It was wonderful. He was able, this last time, to increase the Benicar to q4d (as his DO gave him another perscription for tid on top of the gp's for bid) and last night, for the first time in 6 wks, his eyes were not bloodshot (the opthalmalogist had explained that bloodshot eyes indicate inflamation in the eyes, I've sort of used it as a marker for his whole body since then).

He has been off the prednisone for 2 weeks now, which is really exciting.

His BP and BS are both better. Neither of these changed the last time he came off of prednisone.

He has a long way to go as the sarc is in his muscles (as indicated by elevated ck) and they have atrophied greatly over the last couple of years. I am sure he'd be in a wheelchair by now if he hadn't been committed to the PT/gym for the last year. Strengthing his muscles now will hopefully not only be possible but less painful.

I hope these little (actually huge) improvements help someone just starting on this path to remission. He started about Nov 1, 02 with 1,25 D at 69 and overall ratio of 2.26 and at 8mg/day prednisone. Will get D measure again in a couple of weeks.

Thanks again to Trevor and all for hard work and dedication. Sylvia

 
 Re: ** Success stories- ARBs or Antibiotics are fixing me
Author: Kathleen (65.121.96.---)
Date:   02-16-03 17:58

Hello All -

I am one of the pending success cases Trevor referred to - but I believe I have made so much progress, I would like to encourage others.

My chest pain and shortness of breath have been incapacitating over the last three plus years; not to mention fatigue, aches, numbness, and cognitive symptoms.

I took the Minocin before the Benicar - that is definitely the hard way - as Trevor advises, the Benicar should be in place first for a couple of reasons -
first I had a reaction to the Benicar, in that it is an inflammatory medication - and as it reduces the inflammation, it really exacerbated my symptoms - in a different way than Herxheimer; but still very uncomfortable. Once I was comfortable on the Benicar, at the recommended dose of 40mg three times/day, I restarted the Minocin. This time, the Herxheimer effects were much less noticable (the first time I started Minocin, my heart rate and chest pain were much increased - to beyond uncomfortable, but to where I believe it was dangerous. I stopped taking it, and started the Benicar, and that improved.)

It's only been a few weeks, but I feel more energetic, definitely more mentally aware, chest pain is decreased and the shortness of breath is basically gone during normal activity. As I mentioned in another thread, I even did a little dance last night - with no abnormal shortness of breath or chest pain! If I never get better than I am right now, I would have to say it is such an improvement, I would be happy with that - considering the prognosis of cardiac sarcoidosis! I really feel less stress on my heart, and more "normal" than I have in years - although Trevor is right, it isn't merely normal - it's an appreciation for everything you never thought you'd have again - and for the moment you're actually in!

I know I have a long way to go, but tasting that moment gives me hope for more...I can now admit how scared I have been that my life was basically over. At times, I feel like I've been in a coma, and don't really know what has gone on around me for the past few years!

I've also had parasthesias - numbness and itching - scratching or rubbing my face always felt like I was rubbing something dis-associated from me - and now I can feel my face!

Anyway, hang in there - this is a good course to be on!! Thanks Trevor!

Kathy in Wyoming

 
 Re: ** SUCCESS stories- ARBs or Antibiotics are fixing me
Author: Kathleen (65.121.96.---)
Date:   02-23-03 15:32

Trevor and All -

Just another quick update - a nurse told me this week that I have "life in my eyes" - which I haven't had for a long, long time! It's great working in healthcare - my co-workers/friends know when I am sick, and they know I am getting well! My CEO also told me I am getting color back in my face...

Heading in the right direction!!!!

Kathy in Wyoming

 
 Re: ** SUCCESS stories- ARBs or Antibiotics are fixing me
Author: Kathleen (65.121.96.---)
Date:   03-06-03 17:38

Trevor and all -

Another update on my pending/current success - my boss talked to me about taking back some of my supervisory duties at work, that I had to give up when I got sick!!! Another department also asked if I would be interested in transferring...my improvement is very visible!!!

I feel as though I am on a different level - I know I am still sick, and have a ways to go, but I know that unlike steroid induced improvement, this will last! Before, when I felt better, it was always scary, because it was possible that that was a good as I would ever feel again...my doc was very careful w/steroids, but they became less and less of an option, even before I found Trevor's information. In other words, they were never a cure, just a temporary fix...and this time I really know I am going to get better. While the Herxheimer effects make me feel badly, I know this is temporary - and completely necessary to get well! They are also somewhat controllable with Benicar, my new favorite drug!!

Thank you ALL!!

Kathy in Wyoming

 
 Re: ** SUCCESS stories- ARBs or Antibiotics are fixing me
Author: JohnL (---.p1.xnet.com)
Date:   03-28-03 07:34

Thought I'd share some of my success - after finding this site and taking the experts advice found here - I began taking Minocin Jan 23rd. My values were:
1,25D 40 PG/ML
25D 24 NG/ML
RATIO 1.67
NO ACE TEST DONE

I originally had some strong reactions both herx wise as well as some odd things like my dandruff stopping and some surface bumps on my toungue going away. I quickly realized that taking Minocin @ 100 mg/day was not an option and went to every other day and taking a probiotic on the offdays (acidophilus). After some initial positive reactions, my dandruff came back and all my other symptoms (which were very similar to "Kathy from Wyoming's") seemed to either get worse or no improvement. I was getting very depressed. After reading other's stories here and conversing w/the experts here, I realized, as Trevor said, "It took a long time for your body to get to this point, it's going to take time for you to get better. I hung in there and began taking Benicar at Trevor's suggestion - after first experiencing no change, I realized after about a week that my coughing's definetly subsided! I have continued slow improvemnt. the most recent being a definite decrease in cardiac/chest pains which were getting scary much like Kathy describes. I've recieved the NOIR glasses (ask for the 20% internet discount) and my eye itching/burning seems to have gone down. They look dorky but they work! (saving for those Carl Zeiss units - anybody know how much they cost or any other alternatives?) The Minocin/Benicar combo seems to be doing the trick. If my "butterfly pattern" clears from my face, I will do a dance like Kathy - it won't be a pretty site! Have a better day John L

 
 Re: ** SUCCESS stories- ARBs or Antibiotics are fixing me
Author: Kathleen (65.121.96.---)
Date:   03-30-03 18:47

Hello all -

Just an update - after an awful few days of herxheimer, it is so noticable how much improvement I have actually made! I had a few days of feeling as awful as I used to...but this time I KNEW it would not last. I backed off the Minocin, and I am feeling much better again - with a spring in my step! I know I have a long ways to go, since I am still having fairly severe herxheimer reactions, but it is so amazing how far I have come - and how grateful I am for Trevor and all of you on this site - together, we can and are beating it!!

John - dance on! It's great to feel better, isn't it? I have found that John Frieda products FINALLY work on my hair - it's not so difficult and ratty now.

My "butterfly" pattern comes and goes with rashes - although lately it has been one side or the other. I found a moisturizer that helped with the placquing/scarring, but it was discontinued...I'll let you know if anything else works!!!

Take care all,

Kathy in Wyoming

 
 Re: ** SUCCESS stories- ARBs or Antibiotics are fixing me
Author: Judy, Idaho (---.coldreams.com)
Date:   03-31-03 05:59

Good AM Trevor and all,
I hope to be able to put more of a story here soon but will start with this update. On Fri. saw my Gp doc and took in a few of the papers. He had already had some from a previous appt. He started me on 50mg. doxycycline qod no ARB's at this time.... Now you might ask why doxycycline, something to note: On pg. 6 of the dermatology report (my daughter had this highlighted) states this and this is just the end part of the paragraph. "Indeed, the incidence of the main adverse effects related to minocycline therapy. such as drug hypersensitivity syndrome .hyperigmentation, and dizziness, appears to be much lower inpatients who receive doxycycline. Thus, in future trials, it will be of great interest to evaluate more extensively the therapeutic efficacy of doxycycline in patients who present with granulomatous cutaneous disorders" so with just reading this part we went with the doxycycline.(Trevor what is your thought on this?) My doc was gonna read the rest of the studies but was great with trying this therapy, thought the part on the doxycycline was important to note so we started there(worked for me!!) I might add that taking this article to your doctor is a good idea and to have it in the full text seems to be even better for us that pulmonary sar as the chest x-rays on pg.5 is very convincing. Something I am doing is keeping a daily diary. This is to include symptons, b/p,p and anything else I think is important. I am watching my V-D intake very close and trying to control that with diet. As for the ARB's right now I think after he has time to read everything we will talk more. I started the 50mg. on Sat. and will do qod. for a week or two then go up to 50mg. twice aday.
I really appreicate this site as it has given me so much direction to research and also get some other thoughts to help with my decisions.
Good health to all,
Judy

 
 Re: ** SUCCESS stories- ARBs or Antibiotics are fixing me
Author: Vickie (---.gci.net)
Date:   03-31-03 08:30

Hey Judy,

Glad to hear you found a doc who's willing to do the protocol for you. I'm on doxycycline -- have been since 2000 -- and it's made a huge improvement for me. I know it's not the drug of choice, but for me it's been terrific. I take 100 mg every third day and it's been very effective.

Best of luck to you, and don't forget the acidophilus!

Vickie

 
 Re: ** SUCCESS stories- ARBs or Antibiotics are fixing me
Author: Admin (---.vnnyca.adelphia.net)
Date:   03-31-03 08:47

Judy,
99% of adverse events reported for both Doxycycline and Minocycline are incorrectly diagnosed. Most doctors have no idea what Herxheimer looks like, and they diagnose "adverse drug reaction" rather than "Herxheimer". I wrote a piece about this recently here.

Minocycline has twice as good tissue penetration as Doxycycline. They are complementary drugs, each has slightly different mechanisms of action on different bugs.

Minocycline has been used for several decades in Rheumatoid Arthritis by Dr Thomas Brown. I suggest you buy a copy of his book "The Road Back" as it contains a lot of background information you are lacking. Minocycline is proven safe in extended use. Doxycycline is not, and is significantly dissimilar chemically. Therefore you cannot assume that Doxycycline is as safe as Minocycline, although it may be.

Finally, please remember that the French study was a very crude one. I don't even agree with all of its endpoints and conclusions. We have a LOT more data here on sarcInfo - a lot more remissions, using a variety of therapies. For example, the French continued to use prednisone during their therapy, while we have found that ARBs work far better.

..trevor..
ps: This thread is a special thread intended for "Success Stories". This message is not "on topic" and should really have been placed in the "General Questions" thread or the "Minocycline" thread. So after a few days I will hide these few messages so they don't confuse future readers. I hope this answers your questions, if not, please feel free to post more questions in the appropriate threads.

 
 Re: ** SUCCESS stories- ARBs or Antibiotics are fixing me
Author: anonymous (170.135.241.---)
Date:   04-10-03 13:55

If this treatment is so effective, why are there only a few responding to this thread? Do you have any idea how many people are trying this treatment? Has it not worked for anyone?

 
 Re: ** SUCCESS stories- ARBs or Antibiotics are fixing me
Author: Belinda (---.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net)
Date:   04-10-03 16:38

Thanks, Anonymous,

I guess I needed a prod like yours to get me to post on this thread. I'm afraid I may be like a lot of people, drawn back into the activities of life, of which I'd felt like "spectator" for a while. There is a big adjustment when you go from feeling overwhelmingly drawn to bed (and rest) - to being pulled back to catching up on loose ends, as well as new projects and activities.

Perhaps there are other people like me, who are timid about sharing the details of how we once lived, parsing out the little energy we had for the most essential activities, then falling into bed to deal with the pain and fatigue of sarcoidosis.

While I don't claim to be at the end of this battle, I am happy with my progress. I still get the Herxheimer response from antibiotics, I still rest as needed, and I'm continuing with antibiotics and angiotensin receptor blockers. This morning I was lightheaded from the Herx and I had a busy day ahead that included a trip to my hairdresser. There was a time when a trip to the salon would have exhausted all my energy for about 24 hours. Yet, today I managed to also squeeze in errands and other activities, without fatigue or pain.

I cannot tell you how often I am grateful to be on this drug therapy, but some of those times are:
- when I awake in the morning and realize I'm refreshed and free of pain.
- when I arise from bed and I don't have a headache or stuffy head.
- when I eat a meal and I'm not nauseated or bloated.
- when I can make a list this long and not forget what I was doing.
- when I see my skin that is cleared of lesions.
- when I go up and down stairs and I'm not afraid of losing my balance and falling.
- when I walk through my house and my feet don't hurt.
- when I walk the length of a grocery store and my hips aren't aching.
- when I walk the length of the mall and I can still breathe.
- when I try on a new outfit and I can "feel" the clothes on my back.
- when I get out of my car without pain.
- when I see I have a smile on my face and a little sparkle in my eyes again.
- when friends and family remark I have more energy - even over the phone.
- when I get a hug from someone I love and I don't recoil from the pain of a "squeeze."
- when I go to bed and I can lie down without feeling pain from the "weight of lying down."

I don't know how many people are on this therapy, but I'm thankful I've had the opportunity to try it. I had refused oral corticosteroids (several times), was on supplemental oxygen and was prepared to possibly, eventually, die from sarcoidosis before I found this site.

Best wishes,
Belinda

 
 Re: ** SUCCESS stories- ARBs or Antibiotics are fixing me
Author: Kathleen Stuart (65.121.96.---)
Date:   04-10-03 18:51

Dear Anonymous -

I have posted on this thread, but I would like to reiterate my success. I am a success-pending story, but if I never feel any better than I do today (which I know won't happen), it would be great! I feel like I have been in a coma for the last three years! I am finally able to notice and appreciate life around me. As Belinda noted, many many areas are affected, for the better.

I work at a small hospital, and my co-workers watched my steady decline...they are also recognizing and applauding my improvement - everyone from nurses to the CEO. My family is especially encouraged and appreciative of this treatment - I lost a brother to violence a few years ago, and they couldn't handle another tragedy - which I know, KNOW was coming. Unless I was treated, I was going to die - something I told my physicians. This regimen of Minocin and Benicar, with the decrease of vitamin D, has brought me new life - I can work, I can think clearly, I am beginning to contact friends I have lost touch with during my illness...I am alive!!! It's really exciting to think that I have quite a ways to go - I will only get better!!!!!

As to how many people are on this treatment, I'm sure it is impossible to tell - the "specialists" have so far dismissed this information - something that I find very disturbing, since this is much less destructive than prednisone or methotrexate...and there are many of us who are successful!!! However, not only are patients discouraged from this treatment, but physicians are also. They look to the specialists for guidance, who in turn, IMO, hold fast to their lucrative, agenda-based information, with no room for new (or in this case old) ideas.

I think another reason people are not responding on this thread is that, like Belinda, they are timid to share...and I think we've been told for so long that we are sick, the best we can do is to medicate with painkillers and prednisone, which cause more problems, that success is an elusive thought - eventually, we'll need a lung transplant, or methotrexate, or will die. I know I expected to die, and now feel like this treatment, and every day, is a gift. Many of us had geared our minds to getting worse, and dealing with this for the rest of our most-likely shortened lives. All of a sudden, the doors have opened, and that's not the way it has to be!!! Success, or wellness, can be scary too, especially when it wasn't an option before. I think if you read the other posts on this site, you will see that there is much more success than what is listed in this thread.

Kathleen in Wyoming

 
 Re: ** Success stories- Antibiotics are fixing me
Author: Meg (---.188.244.147.euc.wi.charter.com)
Date:   04-10-03 22:28

Dear Anonymous,

There are a relative few success stories here because this treatment is brand new and patients have had to fight with their doctors to get it.

I counted 12 success stories in this thread, plus my own (which I have updated). That is not the total nor an insignificant number, especially if you happen to be one of them.

You can wait until there are statistics on hundreds or thousands of patients. Or you can take a chance and try this treatment which has been demonstrated to be effective and has little chance of harming you.

I hope you will be one of those success stories one day,

Meg

 
 Re: ** SUCCESS stories- ARBs or Antibiotics are fixing me
Author: Kevan Woodcock (---.pacificinsight.com)
Date:   04-15-03 12:55

Hi
well i can post my own little success story. Actually its a success in the making and the battle continues. I was diagnoses nearly 10 years ago and its only been the last 3 or 4 years that have been a real problem. I was reduced from a sarc patient who would run 22km and then ride my bike as i wasn’t tired to somebody who was ready to die. I felt my life was over and i thought that my wife should move on from me and find somebody who wasnt ill, tired, moaning and just grumpy with pain.
I discovered this website, met with my doctor and i have only been on minocin for 6 weeks and arbs for 1 week. I have started running again, every night last week, started weight training, ive made arrangements to out to dinner with friends. My life is coming back. Now it has really only been good for just over 1 week now and i have had good windows before, but they have never lasted this long. Only time will tell if this treatment really works but i believe in it and i will keep posting on this web site my progress. I fully expect to have a bad turn again but i hope/feel that it will be followed by another good window of energy. We will see.
Good luck and wish’s to all.
Thanks to the contributors of this website.

kev

 
 Re: ** SUCCESS stories- ARBs or Antibiotics are fixing me?
Author: wendy (---.stcgpa.adelphia.net)
Date:   04-16-03 11:55

Hi all -
I am so, so nervous about saying "success", so let's just say moving in the right direction. I just got my Vit D lab results which were taken last week... and, the winner is...

1,25 = 51.4 (range is 15-55)
25 = 21.9 (normal range is 8.9-44.6)
ratio = 2.35
In January my D Ratio was 10.86 (1,25=165 and 25=15.2)...

Can I toot a horn and blow up balloons yet??? I think I will wait and be cautious, but man does it feel good to not be so toxic for the moment.

Thanks again to Trevor and Belinda and all for being there and encouraging me to work through this!

cheers,
wendy

 
 Re: ** SUCCESS stories- ARBs or Antibiotics are fixing me
Author: Admin (---.vnnyca.adelphia.net)
Date:   04-16-03 12:05

Wendy,
I know it has been a very painful few months for you working through the herx.
That magnifies the admiration I have for your persistence. You had the highest 1,25-D of any of us here at Sarcinfo (165pg/ml). Not only did you have a complete suite of Doctors that were (in my opinion) unhelpful, and you had to struggle to work within their dictates, you also had to endure the herx - really bad herx - even from 20mg doses (at the beginning).

Your 1,25-D is still too high (you know that) and you need to keep working on getting your 25-D down by controlling your intake very closely. That will make you feel even better.

Definitely start the celebrations now - you deserve it There will be tough times ahead, but now you have seen the light at the end of the tunnel... focus on it...

..Trevor..

 
 Re: ** SUCCESS stories- ARBs or Antibiotics are fixing me
Author: Bastiana (---.dial.hetnet.nl)
Date:   04-18-03 02:04

Dear Trevor and all! Regards from Holland!

I did not show up for some while, which actually is a very good sign. I learned to master the ups and downs of the herxheimer responses getting milder and milder, myself!

Through all this, being in the 4 months of 50mg minocycline every other day, I can still say that I am on a steady climbing line. Getting better is strange too...as soon as you have regained a part of health you forget the past... I even had sunshine (unliberate) and no big reaction this week! Unimaginable only 2 weeks ago! It would have stroke me on the bed immediately and for long.

Of cource I still can't walk on solid ice, but at least I have my climbing line to look forward to!

I do not work yet and this brought a security docter to the idea that a outing of my pulmonary 'I had refused medication' ...(which I didn't)... would mean that I refuse to get better...he even suggested that all day he had people wanting to be ill, as they weren't...sooo?? It means that here in Holland they are still very confused how to handle indepedant patients; it is like a threat to them... I did not enter this discussion and simply declared we had a different opinion and that next time I visit him there should be a lawyer present. Also I wrote a letter to my pulmonary to inform ME about her opinions before she writes others...and I asked her to settle the conflict.

Of course I imagined a trial...can you all imagine this? Maybe you all come over to support me?

In this 'democratic' country substantial rights have to be gained in a trial, I never could have imagined this! But somehow I gained a new peace in myself, it doesn't bather me much. I could allways start to be a pavement dweller and join in the SDI (Slumm Dwellers International)

I wish you all a pleasant Easter, and for the coming year lots of PROGRESS!!

Warm regards to all of you,

Bastiana

PS: getting better I also start to sneeze again! I couldn't do this, everything was 'stuck' somehow...

 
 Re: ** SUCCESS stories- ARBs or Antibiotics are fixing me
Author: Jillian from North Dakota (---.westriv.com)
Date:   04-18-03 03:05

I was diagnosed with pulmonary sarc about 1979 and have been totally disabled because of it (and other 'weird' health problems which I now believe are mostly sarc related) since the early 1990s.

I was introduced to this protocol when Trevor's simplified summary of the Remission in Sarcoidosis was featured in a newsletter by Joseph Mercola, D.O. last year. After reading it I new I had found THE answer for me. In fact, it was such a "Eureka" moment, that I can even remember the date, the morning of September 15, 2002--and with my sarc destroyed memory that's pretty amazing... . (If you haven't yet read the simplified summary of this paper, there's a link for it on the top and bottom of every page of this site. If you're a sarc patient, you MUST, in my opinion, read it and reread it until you understand it.)

I instantly recognized the sun-induced symptom factors for me. In grade school I used to beg teachers to let me stay in during recess because I was "allergic" to the sun. Needless to say, no one believe me 'cuz, as all adults told me, "You can't be allergic to the sun!"

I have not yet been able to find a cooperative physician to prescribe the meds for me, but I have implemented all the changes I could by eliminating dietary vitamin D and sun/bright light exposure. This alone, has made a tremendous difference.

I didn't realize how much until I 'slipped' a few weeks ago and now am in a sarc flare. I forgot about egg yolks having vit. D and ate a veggie omelet every day for about ten days (and they were only one-yolk omelets), had some egg noodles, a couple of glasses of Vit. D fortified milk (some of my favorite foods), and, because my eyes were so much less sensitive to light, didn't wear my Noir sunglasses in the house.

For days now I've had symptoms that I very easily forgot I used to have day in and day out! Back to the severe-constipation-alternating-with-diarrhea cycle, headaches, irritableness, and the horrible mind-numbing fatigue and disturbed sleep patterns. In fact, my sleep has been so disturbed again that I'm writing this at 3 a.m. after another bout of diarrhea and then laying in bed tossing and turning for hours. Then there's the not being able to get warm, blurred vision, rashes, etc., etc., etc.

I'd like to encourage those of you that are new to this protocol and may that have doubts about it's efficacy and are hesitant to speak to your Doc about it, to do as I did for a couple of months and see your symptoms reduce.

I'd also like to encourage everyone to keep a journal of ALL the symptoms you have before beginning the protocol and how they recede as we get healthier. That'll give us plenty of things to write about in this thread in the future. I didn't think I'd have to write my symptoms down because who would forget! Well, I found out it's easy to forget these miserable symptoms once they're gone!!!

And, I also want to encourage all of us having a hard time finding a cooperative, out-of-the-box thinking doctor that will partner with us in our health not just in our sickness, that it's worth the continued effort it takes to understand this protocol and find a Doc that does too! I feel the amount of energy, time and money (and that's not only my money, but your's too, because I'm on Social Security Disability) I've had to spend fighting for getting better is a crime!

'til later,
Jillian

 
 Re: ** SUCCESS stories- ARBs or Antibiotics are fixing me?
Author: wendy (---.stcgpa.adelphia.net)
Date:   04-21-03 08:40

Hi all -

Follow up... Wanted to share more good news.


I made it to 10mg of the prednisone. Coming down from 15mg has been a rocky road, but DONE.

I had miserable days with all symptoms returning, and fierce. The most worrying part was the chest pain and cardiac symptoms. Difficult to sleep,with intense shooting, sharp pains waking me at night and no position seemed to ease it. (This symptom is different from the "pressure" in my chest I get from the Herx)

I punched through, however, and did NOT up my prednisone dose as I was tempted to do. Frankly, I think the reason I could make it through was that I am now not so toxic with Vit D, so the symptoms were tough, but not unbearable.

Am holding steady on 200mg Minocycline and 10mg prednisone. Feeling VERY GOOD! More energy and less --cloud over the head, Eeyore feeling. My twilight garden is laid out and I await a frost free night to plant my seedlings.

Hold steady!

Wendy

 
 Re: ** SUCCESS stories- ARBs or Antibiotics are fixing me
Author: Sheila S (---.gci.net)
Date:   04-28-03 00:49

I don't know if I am a success story or not. I just know that I don't feel like total garbage anymore. And not because I have a great pulmonary specialist ha, no it is because I have a gynological nurse practioner and a chiropractor that was willing to read. In fact the pulmonoligist wouldn't even discuss the treatment nor did she think that I was out of remission. Even though she did admit that I did have clear lesions on left upper and right lower lobes of my lungs and that the walls of the lungs were starting to thicken and harden. I started the doxycycline 100mg mwf and so far so good. It comes at the same time as certain food allergy testing came back and said that I was highly reactive to most of the foods I was eating. I've been off all the (reactive) foods for about a week now and I am feeling better and better. After six weeks I will start the elimination phase of that program to find out what it is that I really am allergic/sensitive to. What is really interesting (more like funny weird) to my doc and me is that most of the reactive foods are great sources of Vit D. I am staying out of the sun even though it is hard to. I live in Alaska so I am a sun worshipper - we don't get much sun. But I believe that like all things good and bad this too will pass. I have started riding my bike to work and walking regularly. I no longer have as much problem breathing as I did even a few weeks ago. I am also starting to use as much home remedies as possible and hopefully strengthen my immune system with a good old fashion boost.
Oh well thanks to all that made this quest for health easier with your knowledge. I've yattered on enough.

Smiles
Sheila

 
 Re: ** SUCCESS stories- ARBs or Antibiotics are fixing me
Author: Di (---.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
Date:   04-30-03 08:13

Just to let you all know how I'm doing.

I've been taking Minocin since last September and I have COMPLETELY STOPPED COUGHING. I had such a bad cough last year that I could get a seat on the bus even in the London rush hour! (I'll have to fake it now). The mucus and swallowing problems are much better, my hair and nails have started growing again and my skin has cleared up.
I have also stopped taking Pred. after nearly a year with practically no side effects, although I still use an inhaler now and again. The only strange things is that, whereas I hadn't put any weight while taking Pred., I have gone up a couple of pounds since I stopped. Perhaps this is just due to the fact I'm feeling well instead of constantly faintly nauseous.
I am still tight chested and short of breath on exertion, like Jan. I think I have some hyper VitD symptoms, but as I haven't been able to get any British 'health professional' to do the tests I can't be sure. I get giddy and tired, plus digestive problems and headaches. However, I am prone to migraines and was told I had benign positional vertigo and also IBS years before I was diagnosed with sarc., so what's causing what is a difficult question.
There was no change on my last chest xray and my peak flow hasn't improved but I'm feeling much, much better!

Di

 
 Re: ** SUCCESS stories- ARBs or Antibiotics are fixing me
Author: Admin (---.vnnyca.adelphia.net)
Date:   04-30-03 08:22

Di,
That's great news!

On my PFTs I found that FEV1 was the parameter that improved. Also, the migraines went completely away with Diovan. Have you been able to try that yet?

The herx does come and go - I had a coughing spree start up for a month or so after increasing my dose to 200mg qod - so there is hope for your bus seat yet..

..Trevor..

 
 Re: ** SUCCESS stories- ARBs or Antibiotics are fixing me
Author: Eileen (---.client.attbi.com)
Date:   05-09-03 08:16

Well all the results are in!!!!!!!!!!!
2 months ago my blood results were
ACE 69.8
D-25 14
D-125 40

My NEW results, and mind you, I have not ever been on steroids, etc...

ACE 26.8

D-25 15

D-125 33

The enlarged lymph node in my neck is half the size, the pea sized nodule in my arm (that I have had for 7 years now) is gone.
I am so happy!!!!!!!! Thank you Trevor!!
Eileen

 
 Re: ** SUCCESS stories- ARBs or Antibiotics are fixing me
Author: Kathleen Stuart (65.121.96.---)
Date:   05-18-03 18:23

Hello all -

I haven't checked in for a while, and I wanted to update the success thread!!

I recently had a few weeks of really feeling crummy; as Trevor suggested, I stopped the Minocin until I was feeling better. I am now better, and have am back on the every other day regimen. While this isn't necessary "success", I look at it as the fact that while I really felt bad, I knew it wouldn't last - before when I got sick, I just got sicker - none of that annoying wellness to worry about!!! But now, despite bad days, or even weeks, I know it is getting better!! (I saw my doc during this feeling icky period, and even then he was encouraged with my progress!!!)

So following those few weeks, I am working more and better again, and I even bought some new clothes - I am certainly larger than I was, but since I really love clothes, I thought I would try to find my style, and this will also help me feel better!! And just a few months ago, I really couldn't have cared less about my appearance!!!!

Once again, God Bless You, Trevor - I even feel like going to a ball game (at night, of course!!)

Kathleen in Wyoming

 
 Re: ** SUCCESS stories- ARBs or Antibiotics are fixing me
Author: Jillian from North Dakota (---.westriv.com)
Date:   06-20-03 18:05

An update.

I discovered Trevor's papers, thanks to Dr. Mercola's newsletter, in September 2002. I emailed Trevor and he gave me the link to this site. I studied the papers, printed them out, and went with great excitement to my GP with the info. She agreed to the D tests, but because my D ratio was not excessively high, she did not feel I needed medication. (BTW, her mentor and good friend is the pulmonologist she had sent me to, I've wondered how much influence he may have had in her position...)

Then I went to Doc #2, who wouldn't do the protocol, then Doc #3. In May, Doc #3 prescribed the Minocin because I have acne; he gave me a three-month presciption. He agreed to this after two visits, but at both he told me over and again about the miracles of Pred as treatment for Sarc. (I have never taken Pred and told him that unless I was at death's door I wouldn't. He was very upset at that.) He would not do the ARBs at the dosage required for Sarc (he'd only start me at the lowest Benicar dosage per day that is used for mild hypertension), so I refused the ARB prescription. (See Trevor's papers on ARBs if you don't understand why that dosing is inappropriate.)

As I'm eligible to get meds at no cost from the manufacturer (I'm on Social Security Disability due to the Sarc), it takes 4-6 weeks to get the meds. In the meantime, someone told me about Doc #4 who they felt was open minded and caring. I was hoping he'd do the ARBs and any futher care I'd need. He may be open minded about some things, but he didn't want to do this protocol either!!!

Needless to say, it's been VERY frustrating! My chiropractor has called an MD friend of his who has agreed to follow up with the Minocin with me. I'm going to approach him about the ARBs too and see what he says, but at least I know I can get follow up care!

I got my Minocin and, to date, have had 8 doses.

A mere 8 doses of Minocin and, even with the herx'ing, I feel better than I have in 10 years!!!! In fact, I was amazed that for me there were good changes right from dose one.

One major change was that for the past year I've basically only been able to eat bland carbs because of terrible GI problems. That mostly changed after the first dose. (It is good to eat a variety of food again .)

Also, the fatigue is not as bad. (It's not anywhere near normal, but I'm more than thrilled with any change for the better. Used to be that most days I hardly had enough energy to brush my teeth and get dressed.) This last week I helped a friend clean out and organize her art studio--we worked about six hours a day for four days straight, then a couple more on day five. Just a few weeks ago that would have been impossible.

The herx's, in general, have not been a whole lot worse than my normal symptoms. I must admit that the last couple of days have been tough, migraines more on than off for three days, but knowing that they're short lived and a sign of healing makes it all worth while.

The anticipation of being a normally healthly, working person again is thrilling. I can't wait!

Thank you again, Trevor, for your continued time, support and energies that you put into this site and to helping us all. Also, thanks to the moderators here that support us too! I appreciate you all more than you'll ever know.

'til later,
Jillian

 
 Re: ** SUCCESS stories- ARBs or Antibiotics are fixing me
Author: Meg (---.188.232.59.euc.wi.charter.com)
Date:   06-20-03 19:59

Jillian,

You are an inspiration. I'm so impressed with your determination and persistance. You will give others the confidence to stand up for what they believe in and not to give up. I'm delighted that the minocycline has affected positive changes already. Now that you've proven the existence of occult microbes in your body with the Herxheimer reaction, perhaps your new MD will order the Benicar so you won't have to suffer so much.

Congratulations!!

Meg

 
 Re: ** SUCCESS stories- ARBs or Antibiotics are fixing me
Author: Belinda (---.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net)
Date:   06-20-03 20:21

Jillian,

I am so happy you are finally getting treatment! Way to go!

When you speak to doc #5, be sure to mention the bad migraines you've been having. Perhaps this will convince him to allow you a trial of ARBs because they are being used to prevent migraines.

Maybe it will help to show your new doctor this article about the non-hemodynamic effects of ARBs.

Good work, Jillian.

Belinda

 
 Re: ** SUCCESS stories- ARBs or Antibiotics are fixing me
Author: Kathleen Stuart (65.121.96.---)
Date:   06-22-03 18:19

Hello all -

A quick update of continuing success...last week I was having some pretty bizarre herxheimer - hallucinatory things - such as spider webs over my face when I woke up, and seeing things that weren't there...however, I persevered with the Benicar, and stayed on the minocycline 100 mg every third day, and this week I am doing FANTASTIC!!!

I had my annual job review, and it went great! My employer is very, very pleased with my progress - my improving attention span and cognitive ability, and the fact that I can work more hours. I am incredibly blessed to have an employer that will accomodate my illness and need for as little sun as possible, and a tolerance for my changing ability to do work.

I feel wonderful and energetic; and am truly becoming interested and involved in life again!

Thanks to everyone and your posts - you are all also a vital part of my recovery - it is such a comfort to be able to share both good times and bad - and get such excellent and helpful advice. And thank you Trevor, Belinda and Meg!!!! .

Y'all take care!!!! (the y'all for Tammy - I love Texans!!)

Kathleen in Wyoming

 
 Re: ** SUCCESS stories- ARBs or Antibiotics are fixing me
Author: Jillian Holston (---.ne.client2.attbi.com)
Date:   07-14-03 07:32

I didn't think an active life was going to be possible for me again before I read the information on this site!

But, after being basically bedridden in North Dakota for nearly 10 years with sarc symptoms, and after only a couple of months on minocycline, I'm visiting friends in Boston and the seacoast area of Maine (where I had lived for years).

I'm not only able to stay up all day, but yesterday we went for brunch, toured the seacoast, spent the afternoon and evening talking and laughing with friends (I had forgotten that it's easy to laugh and socialize when you feel good), then topped the evening off with walking Long Sands Beach in York, Maine. I, personally, at the end of the day, walked a good 45 minutes on the beach! Frankly, that action alone deserves an Olympic Gold metal! And, walking it wasn't due to some extraordinary effort, I just did it. (Before minocycline I didn't have the energy to shower every day. Walking to the mailbox at the end of the driveway was sometimes all I could muster the energy for.)

And, with all the bright sunny skies and reflected light from the ocean, I've had no D surges, not a single one! (Yes, I still wear a hat and my Noir sunglasses, but I've had to stop using the darkest pair of Noir sunglasses I have because they are just too dark. When I'm outside now I wear the Noir sunglasses that were required indoors pre-minocycline!)

In fact, I'm feeling so well that I believe within the next couple of months I'll be well enough to work again. I've been on Social Security Disability for 10 years. Employment opportunities within my line of work are difficult to find in rural North Dakota, so I'm going to be moving back to New England. (Before the minocycline treatment, even the concept of moving would have been overwhelming...)

So, Trevor, I am greatly endebted to you! Thank you. (And, Trevor, if you need to contact me, please use this email address because I'll be changing ISPs when I move.)

I don't expect to be back very much to sarcinfo because I intend to be out and about living my life to the full as much as I can.

'til later,
Jillian Holston

 
 Re: ** SUCCESS stories- ARBs or Antibiotics are fixing me
Author: DJ (---.nas5.billings1.mt.us.da.qwest.net)
Date:   08-02-03 18:56

Hi all!

Just an update on how ARBs and antibiotics are helping me.

I was diagnosed by biopsy with Sarcoidosis in February of this year. By that time my symptoms were so severe I had quit working and was virtually bedridden. I was taking strong pain killers, NSAIDs and anything else that would help the pain. Fortunately by the time the diagnosis was confirmed, I had discovered SarcInfo and was able to discuss the most current research with my general practitioner. Although he made the usual recommendation of prednisone treatment (which I refused) he agreed to sign on as primary doctor for my sarc care.

After one month of sunlight/vitamin D reduction my symptoms began to let up a bit. D- ratio at this time was 1.65, ACE 47, ESR 50, Ca normal, BP averaging 145/90. I started Minocycline and worked my dose up to 200 mg QOD which is the level that significant herx occurred. My symptoms slowly began to improve and I was able to discontinue all NSAIDs and pain killers.

After about 7 weeks of antibiotic treatment, I was able to get a prescription for Benicar 40mg 3xday. My doctor wanted me to start out slowly - only one dose a day for a while. This was a big mistake as it made me feel horrible! It took about 3 weeks of ARBs at full dose and I noticed a large drop in my sun sensitivity and other symptoms. Before Benicar, I was still sleeping half the day, and unable to venture out of my darkened house during daylight except for doctor's appointments. Even a few hours outside would put me back to bed for a a day or two. My blood pressure stabilized at 107/78 and has remained close to that regardless of what dose of Benicar I take.

At 3 months of Minocycline treatment my D-ratio was down to 1.36, and the individual D levels close to optimum for sarc patients. To test my progress I discontinued both Benicar and the antibiotics for a couple of weeks. I was virtually symptom free, although my BP went back up and I could not tolerate as much outdoor time as I had before.

Now at 5 months of treatment I am back to work full time. Herx reactions or prolonged sun exposure will still bring back minor symptoms, but if I behave myself I feel almost 'normal'! I consider this amazing progress when my doctor gave the prognosis of 2 to 5 years for the mythical "spontaneous remission," or possible life-long degeneration.

My story is not yet finished. I am continuing on Minocycline and ARBs, with occasional courses of Bactrim which still give me major herx reactions. I am learning to tailor my treatment to fit the demands of my schedule and the responses of my body. There have been no negative reactions to this treatment and I have no qualms about continuing it as long as necessary to bring true remission. Thanks to Trevor, Liz, and the SarcInfo team for restoring my hope and my life!

DJ

 
 Re: ** SUCCESS stories- ARBs or Antibiotics are fixing me
Author: Ms Dale (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   08-03-03 18:41

Many of you already know me, and for those who don't, you will by the end of this post. 

For years and years I have been so very sick from Sarcoidosis.  I have experienced bizarre symptoms and physical challenges - from minor nuisances - to very severe.  I, like many of you, have tried every drug from A to Z to try and combat this affliction of Sarcoidosis.  I have swallowed, injected and been injected, with more drugs than I like to think about - as it makes me shudder......

Then came about Dr. Trevor Marshall - with his protocol of Antibiotic and ARB (angiotensin receptor blocker) therapy - and claiming it was an answer of relief for those being beaten up by this unrelenting disease.  Skeptical?? - you bet I was!!
( I see many of you nodding your heads as you are/were also!)
But I thought - what the heck?  I have put about every other drug into my body that has been tried on Sarcoidosis....why not something surely LESS evil than the drugs I have taken in the past and present.  Besides...I have been told that I have chronic form Sarcoidosis - which has been hell bent on the destruction of my body and the quality of my life thus far.  So - what do I have to lose??  Nothing can be worse than what I have already swallowed - injected - or been injected with !! 

On the QT - I started the Antibiotic - Minocin ( November 2002 )  -- and then the ARB -  Benicar ( January 2003).  I am doing so well - that to list ALL the positives that have taken place for me - I would surely run out of space on this post. Having had several months behind me in taking the Minocin and Benicar, I now feel ready to shout  - how much better I am feeling and progressing in physical performance - ( with my doctors backing me up)!

I know many of you are frustrated just trying to GET the doctors attention regarding this protocol Trevor has discovered.  Trust me...it has not been easy for me either.  But lets be honest - what HAS been - in struggling with Sarcoidosis??  I am not immune to having had to fight for myself. 

First - I had to get a doctor to go along with it.  I pounded papers off from my printer and did some heavy duty verbal convincing.
Then, when I got what a wanted... Sheesh! I went through Herx flares that put me on the couch - OUCH! - but made me even MORE determined to stick it out....as I was getting proof I could not ignore - that the Antibiotic was having an affect -  and then it all started to get better.....I am slowly improving more and more.

The first results that were most dramatic was my LAB tests.
Dr. Marshall has found that the lower the LYMPH count the sicker the patient is with Sarcoidosis.  My LYMPH count was at 5% (low) on a
reference range of 20.0 to 50.0% and the NEUT was 91% (high) on a reference range of 45.0 to 74.0%  ----

I had not a clue that these findings had anything to do with Sarcoidosis and how I was feeling. But I sure knew I was sick!! The immediate results after starting the Minocin and after years of abnormal lab tests - were amazing - they are now NORMAL.  I have not only started to feel better -- I have had so many positives happening - my doctors are "stunned" (quote) with how well I am doing.

And because those who know me, also know, that I speak my mind... I would like to go on to say... Dr. Trevor Marshall has been treated not so very kindly by many... - given the oh "Phooey" on what he has discovered and tried to publish - but I will say to you -do not knock it - unless you have tried it.

To those who have tried it and are not "quite" sure it is for them (very few) - lets be honest here and leave some room for possible patient and doctor error. (This information may be helpful for anyone considering trying this protocol also.) Was the drug Rx'd properly? (the amount that is suggested in this protocol? - be it the Anti-B or the ARB?)  How long did you stick with it?  Did the fight to get refills on the RX from your doctor - out win giving this protocol the best shot possible?  Really think about it....  I am not saying this to question what you felt or did not feel or what you did or did not do ( and this includes your doctor also)  -- all I know is that for me it did not happen over night.

Or maybe you can think of areas where you did feel "a little better" when you started the AntiB -- but maybe went off the drug because you were expecting and wanting more immediate results - which eventually over powered your patience. Yet - lets be honest - we have been willing to put much worse medications (other than an Antibiotic and/or an ARB) into our bodies for years... and taking some for months as we waited to see results - which never happened.

Or maybe you were experiencing not so pleasant results while on the Antibiotic. Were you experiencing Herx flare symptoms?- but because you have been feeling so lousy, for so long, with symptoms galore from the Sarcoidosis - that you automatically just figured your Sarc was on the attack or getting worse - so decided the Antibiotic cannot be working- and you stopped.   It could have been the Herx - you know - where the "Antibiotic" was on the attack - which would have been a positive result....although I know it does not feel so positive when you are actually going throught it. You think - that all your Sarc symptoms are returning with a vengeance.  Just decrease or go slower on your dosage of the Antibiotic. Time... can make all the difference.  One of my most favorite sayings is.
Patience... in time, even grass becomes milk.

So, why not give the Antibiotic and/or the ARB the time it may need to make a difference in your body - before you say anything negative about this protocol.  Sarcoidosis did not do all that messing around in your body in a day - a month or even a year.  I ask you to be patient -  I was - and it "is" making a difference.

Lastly, I would like to address the "stirring" of the medical professionals when they learn or are approached by their patients regarding this protocol -- I say - you are NOT the ones dealing with feeling so sick and having the hellacious symptoms - so listen to what is being proclaimed to work by those who have actually tried it and are having success. Write the RX's when your patients ask to "try this" - as they have nothing to lose - except a few less doctor appointments.

Dr. Trevor Marshall has made a HUGE discovery and difference in the treatment of Sarcoidosis. He shall see his protocol become worldly accepted and essential in the medical treatment regarding Sarcoidosis.
He has my profound gratitude for the work he has done.

Sincerely and respectfully submitted:  Ms Dale ( aka Ms Dale C. Thurlow)

 
 Re: ** SUCCESS stories- ARBs or Antibiotics are fixing me
Author: Jan Lewis (---.lgeenergy.com)
Date:   08-04-03 11:08

I haven't written in awhile. Reading how sick so many are with sarcoidosis made me realize how truly lucky I've been overall. Despite Dr. Marshall's warnings about "supplements", I truly was blessed to have found a whole food neutraceutical with enough scientific evidence backed with journals, websites, magazines and textbooks to convince me it was ok. I eliminated sarc symptoms within 3 months and lived a very normal life for 2 years. In late December of 2002, I learned I had two kidney stones and the sarc had further spread. I went on Minocin in January, Benicar in February. Continued to have pain in my right side which I was attributing to my liver. However, after much thought and process of elimination, I now believe that continued pain in my side over the course of the past two years has been due to repeated kidney infections. (An article in our paper now indicates that these bacteria "colonize" making them difficult to eradicate.) I stopped Benicar around 6-8 weeks ago, I think it was. My BP was extremely low and causing me extreme dizziness. However, I am grateful for their usage in getting my D levels to my current 1% ratio now. I am in the sun whenever I want, have added some D foods back to my diet, and still take 200mg. of Minocin every other day. I am not getting as many kidney infections although they are still occurring now and again. I have managed to overcome the worst of the pain in my neck/shoulders with the aid of PT, chiropractor care, massage and muscle relaxers.

Now if I can get my hormones straightened out!

Anyway, the good news is I feel fine. But, have really not had so many of the issues others have had. I've had little herx episodes, mainly just in the first few weeks of adding Benicar.

I am uncertain how CT scans will turn out as I haven't had any now for 8 months. But, other than a tad bit of a wheeze which comes and goes as the mood seems to strike it, I seem to be ok.

Best wishes to all with continued thoughts for your speedy recovery and many thanks to Dr. Marshall once again.

Jan Lewis

 
 Re: ** SUCCESS stories- ARBs or Antibiotics are fixing me
Author: Louis (212.42.171.---)
Date:   08-05-03 01:13

I'm on day two of my second week of taking minocycline, in which I have increased the dose from 50mg to 100mg a day. There have been a few herxy moments thrown in, but thanks to the warnings provided on this site I had cleared my schedule and toughed them out. I'm prepared to skip a day or two if it gets to difficult.

The discomforts of herx don't come close to overriding the fact that I am feeling physically and mentally good, for the first time in years. It's quite a different feeling from being symptom-free: my energy levels are right up, I feel less giddy, my nose is magically working, my short term memory does what it ought to and my all round mental ability are much improved.

It's very early days, I know, but I am beginning to think this could really be the end of a difficult few years struggling hopelessly with this illness. Thanks to Trevor and the rest of those in the know for showing me a better way to go about it. I will be sure to report back further down the line.

My very best wishes to everyone with sarc and those who care about them.
Louis

 
 Re: ** SUCCESS stories- ARBs or Antibiotics are fixing me
Author: Lowelle Messner (---.73.183.180.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net)
Date:   08-08-03 05:14

I haven't posted in this section, because I wanted to give the Benicar/Minocycline some time to show results. It has been about 3 months, since I started this therapy.

My Sarc was found in January of this year, through a biopsy of an enlarged lymph node in my groin and tissue taken from a very large tumor on my hip. It was determined that I have Sarc in my lungs, spleen, liver, lymphatic system, neuro and behind my right eye. My Pul-monologist (I should say X-pul-monologist!) put me on 40mg of Prednisone/day. Shortly after being put on that awful drug, I found SarcInfo.

My quest to have someone listen to me and help me start this therapy, drove everyone around me absolutely crazy. Not one person could understand that I knew what I needed for my own body. It took me 4 months to find a Doctor who finally heard me.

Since I started on this therapy, my life has improved greatly! Over the past 5 years, I had been given so many different meds to help me deal with the problems, which no Doc could diagnose. As of today, I am totally off of Prednisone, have reduced Neurontin from 2600mg/day - 1800mg/day and Vioxx is down from everyday to 2x week. I have lost 8 or the 25lbs that I gained on the Prednisone! The back brace, that I have worn for the last 3 years, has been in the closet for a month! I am able to train horses again! Everyday there is an improvement.

Yes, I have herx. I listen to my body. When I need to take it easy, I do. Because my body is so involved, I understand that this will be a long process, but I know that there is a remission waiting for me.

The work that Trevor has done for us is a wonderful thing! My hope is that the Medical community will finally open it's eyes to the possiblities.

Lowelle

 
 Re: ** SUCCESS stories- ARBs or Antibiotics are fixing me
Author: Admin (---.vnnyca.adelphia.net)
Date:   08-12-03 22:20

The following was posted in the Neurosarcoidosis thread on 12 Aug 2003 by MsDale

Yvonne,

I was greatly physically challenged due to what was referred to as
Sarcoidosis in my nerve roots. I also have had the full spine MRI's
and etc's -- to verify the severe degree of ( granulomas) in which the inflammation was causing major havoc in my ability to physically function and produced the horrible pain I have endured for years... throughout my spine and down into my leg (sciatica)

I began the protocol of Dr Trevor Marshall's - introducing the anitbiotic
Minocin 100 mgs every other day in November 2002. I am now extremely mobile - my wheel chair and walker both collecting dust - and my doctors "stunned" at how well I am doing.
I also added the ARB (Benicar) in January 2003.

Were anyone to approach my medicine cabinet in the attempt to steal these drugs from me - I am now physically capable to beat them to a pulp with my cane.
And I honestly feel - that someday in my near future this cane will also find its new home -- resting in a corner against the wall. I have been able to enjoy life more than I have in eight years since being diagnosed with
CNS Sarcoid involvement. And have improved in all areas of physical well being since my first "abnormal" chest xray showing Hilar Adenopathy in
1980. I ask for anyone to read in depth, the alternative drug therapy introduced within SARC INFO.com -- before making a decision on what treatment you are considering subjecting your body to.

I have swallowed, injected and been injected with drugs far more evil than the Antibiotic and ARB I now smile with, as they glide down my throat.
And I will tell you and anyone else - that I will be forever grateful to "Trevor" for giving me back some normalcy to my life.

Ms Dale (aka Ms Dale C. Thurlow)

 
 Re: ** SUCCESS stories- ARBs or Antibiotics are fixing me
Author: Admin (---.vnnyca.adelphia.net)
Date:   08-12-03 22:23

The following was posted in a "Benicar - Wow" thread on 11 Aug 2003 by John

Just a quick visit to check in and report back results so far.

On the therapy since the end of May. Dramatic improvement across the board.

The Benicar is amazing in the relief I get from the muscle pain and fatigue. The first pill I took had almost complete relief within minutes after taking it. Unfortunately, after being on the 3 times a day 40mg for three weeks, I decided to stop the Benicar because it lowered my blood pressure too much. I do a lot of bending and knelling and I felt dizzy all the time. By this time I had moved up to the full dose of minocycline @ 200ml every other day and was doing ok with the herx. I do take one pill on occasion when I get a bad day mostly right before bed as it relieves the pain fast. As I live at the Beach and spend a lot of time outdoors, the bad days are caused mostly by a lot of Sun (several hours). Starts with the dry cough and then the body aches kick in big time. Even this is alleviated for me with a Benicar. I know it is not suppose to work unless you take it all the time but it does for me.

After a couple weeks of felling so much better on this therapy, you start to think that you may be free and clear of this thing once and for all. But those out in the sun days remind me that it is still there. lol

I might add that I would presume a lot of people that try this therapy and get the positive results may not come back to this site and report in as they get on with their life. When you're feeling like crap all the time, your focus is on getting better and all the searching one has to do to find the answer. So when you get the kind of relief I have received, there is a tendency to live your life much more which is understandable. But, please remember the others that have just now found this site need some positive feedback and the more that post the results here the more courage the newbies will get when the decide to give it a try.

Although time will tell if this therapy works in the long run, I am cautiously optimistic as this is the best I have felt in years so far. We will see but in the meantime, I am enjoying the ride.

Later all

 
 Re: ** SUCCESS stories- ARBs or Antibiotics are fixing me
Author: Belinda (---.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net)
Date:   09-17-03 18:58

I want to share with everyone my recent chest CT results. My lungs have improved considerably. The radiology report said,

"The current study demonstrated considerable improvement in the confluent mediastinal lymphadenopathy noted on the prior exam. The interstitial thickening noted on the prior exam is also considerably improved. Right interlobar soft tissue attenuation thickening noted on the prior exam study has nearly completely resolved on this current study. Nodularity is noted on this current study but has considerably improved since the prior exam."

I have not had any prednisone or inhalers since I was diagnosed with sarcoidosis in April 2001, after suffering for some years. Due to the extent of involvement in my lungs, doctors repeatedly recommended oral Predisone, but I was afraid of the well-known side effects and refused that treatment. The only medication I have had, other than cough and pain medicine the first month or so, is the special dosing of minocycline, Bactrim DS and Benicar discussed on SarcInfo. I have been on the low-dose alternate day minocycline for one year now, and Benicar for nine months.

I am thrilled with my progress, which is visible both on CT and X-ray film and in my life. The results are better than I had hoped might be possible.

My best wishes to everyone.
Belinda