Betreff: That central tabulator computer is a Windows-based PC.It Was All Predicted Months Ago Live On TV! flashbacks and comments on Nov 2nd
Von: "m.e. onullder"
Datum: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 10:06:56 -0800 (PST)

flashback  November 2, 2004 | 5:51 p.m. ET

John Zogby’s polling was generally considered the most accurate during the crazed 2000 election, and if he maintains that measure of reliability, you can go to sleep now.

Zogby’s final tracking poll, state by state, released at 5:30 EST, suggests the prospect of a Kerry win by a margin of 311 Electoral Votes to 213,
with only Colorado and Nevada too close to call
(and representing just fourteen votes between them).


Oh and by the way, he has Mr. Bush winning the popular vote, narrowly - an irony of biblical proportions that one Democratic pollster rated a one-in-three chance just last week.


It should be noted Zogby is doing a lot of extrapolating.  In the two from Column A (Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania), two from Column B (Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin) states, he gives them all to Kerry.  But Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania are listed as “
trending Kerry
” based on exit polling.  The smaller three states show Kerry up by 5-6%.
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flashback  November 2, 2004 | 6:46 p.m. ET

The tone of Norah O’Donnell’s first report from the White House suggested that whatever the Re-Election Campaign is reading in the way of exit polls, they must be similar to the 5:30 ET final Zogby tracking numbers which forecast a Kerry landslide by as many as 100 Electoral Votes (while giving Mr. Bush an absolutely useless popular majority of 3/10ths of one percent).  Norah reported the President and his supporters putting on positive but somewhat forced faces.


And if they heard the first set of nationwide exit polling released by NBC a little after 6 PM, the White House can’t be very hopeful:

54% thought the economy was “
not good”; only 45% “good
.”
46% thought they were worse off today than they were in 2000; only 21% said they were better off;
Only 52% said they thought we were safer from the threat of terrorism now than before; 43% thought we were less safe.
And while 53% said they were somewhat worried about another terrorist attack, just 22% described themselves as “
very” worried
”, a comparatively small percentage.


All of which brings us to what might be a very unpleasant Election Night party in the Ronald Reagan Building in Washington - the President’s soiree.
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A professor at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst, notes that in Florida the vote to raise the minimum wage was approved by 72%, but Kerry got 48%.  "The correlation between voting for the minimum wage increase and voting for Kerry isn't likely to be perfect," he noted, "but one would normally expect that the gap - of 1.5 million votes - would be far smaller than it was."
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My plan now is to compose an explicit summary of what went down and to visit as many news/current affairs/politics sites, but especially american, and paste the facts into whatever 'leave a message/contribute to discussions' they have.  There's a lot ignorant of all this and the message needs to appear as much as possible [critical mass?] so they can educated about what just happened.  Michael Moore might have some ideas so I'll go visit there first.

The new
UP! is good, you manage your apology with style.  What can I say?  I also suspended doubts I should have nurtured from last time [you helped make it all seem hopeful!], but it did seem like the other way.  Lesson, we must never give in to optimism ;-) but keep it in a pocket for when it really can be got out.
Love and peace

Pete Password, Hereford, UK
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Election night, just after midnight, during the 12:20 a.m. Associated Press Radio News feed, I was startled to hear the reporter detail how Karen Hughes had earlier sat George W. Bush down to inform him that he'd lost the election.  The exit polls were clear: Kerry was winning in a landslide.  "Bush took the news stoically," noted the AP report.


But then the computers reported something different.  In several pivotal states.


Conservatives see a conspiracy here: They think the exit polls were rigged.


Dick Morris, the infamous political consultant to the first Clinton campaign who became a Republican consultant and Fox News regular, wrote an article for The Hill, the publication read by every political junkie in Washington, DC, in which he made a couple of brilliant points.


"Exit Polls are almost never wrong," Morris wrote.  "
They eliminate the two major potential fallacies in survey research by correctly separating actual voters from those who pretend they will cast ballots but never do and by substituting actual observation for guesswork in judging the relative turnout of different parts of the state."


He added: "So, according to ABC-TVs exit polls, for example, Kerry was slated to carry
Florida, Ohio, New Mexico, Colorado, Nevada, and Iowa, all of which Bush carried.  The only swing state the network had going to Bush was West Virginia, which the president won by 10 points."


A few hours after the exit polls were showing a clear Kerry sweep, as the computerised vote numbers began to come in from the various states, the election was called for Bush.


How could this happen?
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It Was All Predicted Months Ago Live On TV!

Several months ago, on the CNBC TV show "Topic A With Tina Brown," Howard Dean had filled in for Tina Brown as guest host.  His guest was Bev Harris, the Seattle grandmother who started www.blackboxvoting.org from her living room.  Bev pointed out that regardless of how votes were tabulated (other than hand counts, only done in odd places like small towns in Vermont), the real "counting" is done by computers.  Be they Diebold Opti-Scan machines, which read paper ballots filled in by pencil or ink in the voter's hand, or the scanners that read punch cards, or the machines that simply record a touch of the screen, in all cases the final tally is sent to a "central tabulator" machine.


That central tabulator computer is a Windows-based PC.

"In a voting system," Harris explained to Dean on national television, "you have all the different voting machines at all the different polling places. All those machines feed into the one machine so it can add up all the votes.  So, of course, if you were going to do something you shouldn't to a voting machine, would it be more convenient to do it to each of the 4000 machines, or just come in here and deal with all of them at once?"


Dean nodded in rhetorical agreement, and Harris continued.  "
What surprises people is that the central tabulator is just a PC, like what you and I use.  It's just a regular computer."


"
So," Dean said, "anybody who can hack into a PC can hack into a central tabulator?"


Harris nodded affirmation, and pointed out how Diebold uses a program called
GEMS, which fills the screen of the PC and effectively turns it into the central tabulator system.  "This is the official program that the County Supervisor sees," she said, pointing to a PC that was sitting between them loaded with Diebold's software.


Bev then had Dean open the
GEMS program to see the results of a test election.  They went to the screen titled "Election Summary Report" and waited a moment while the PC "adds up all the votes from all the various precincts," and then saw that in this sample election Howard Dean had 1000 votes, Lex Luthor had 500, and Tiger Woods had none.  Dean was winning.


"
Of course, you can't tamper with this software," Harris noted.   Diebold wrote a pretty good program.


But, it's running on a Windows PC!


So Harris had Dean close the Diebold
GEMS software, go back to the normal Windows PC desktop, click on the "My Computer" icon, choose "Local Disk C:," open the folder titled GEMS, and open the sub-folder
"
LocalDB" which, Harris noted, "stands for local database, that's where they keep the votes."  Harris then had Dean double-click on a file in that folder titled "Central Tabulator Votes," which caused the PC to open the vote count in a database program like Excel.


In the "
Sum of the Candidates" row of numbers, she found that in one precinct Dean had received 800 votes and Lex Luthor 400.


"
Let's just flip those," Harris said, as Dean cut and pasted the numbers from one cell into the other. "And," she added magnanimously, "let's give Tiger 100 votes."


They closed the database, went back into the official GEMS software "
the legitimate way, you're the county supervisor and you're checking on the progress of your election."

As the screen displayed the official voter tabulation, Harris said, "
And you can see now that Howard Dean has only 500 votes, Lex Luthor has 900, and Tiger Woods has 100."  Dean, the winner, was now the loser.


Harris sat up a bit straighter, smiled, and said, "
We just edited an election, and it took us 90 seconds."


On live national television. (clip on
www.votergate.tv.)  And they’d left no tracks whatsoever, Harris said, noting that it would be nearly impossible for the election software - or a County election official - to know that the vote database had been altered.
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flashback  November 2, 2004 | 9:01 p.m. ET
Exit numbers meaning a Bush exit?

Secaucus  The exit polling is sometimes easy enough to read that even I can figure it out.


The NBC information released at 8:23 indicates numbers crushing for the president’s hopes of gaining significant votes based on the war in Iraq.

Only 12% of voters nationally agreed that things were “
going well” in Iraq, and only another 32% said things were going “somewhat well” there.  55% were clearly negative, saying things were going “badly.”


More significantly perhaps, the President’s argument that the war in Iraq is a component of the war on terror, was only partially successful with voters - 52%.  45% said the two elements were separate.

Overall, the exit polls show voters evenly split about the wisdom to go into Iraq in the first place, 48-48.

And most strikingly, when asked if the action in Iraq improved our security or harmed it, only 43% said it had improved it  54% felt otherwise.


No wonder Norah O’Donnell’s latest report refers to more grim faces inside the White House strategy and war rooms - what we liked to call the “
interior numbers” would suggest that the fundaments of the President’s re-election strategy haven’t succeeded, and the Zogby forecast of a Kerry 100+ Electoral College vote looks ever-increasingly plausible.


And those “
interior numbers” in Ohio fascinate.  The NBC exit polling there suggests the state saw 800,000 new voters  13% of the entire electorate there - and they went 56-44 Kerry (58-41 Kerry among those under 30), with the only demographic group going for the President in Ohio being those 60 and over.


But Ohio still shows the closeness of the votes-in-hand.

As of 8:15 EST, out of the 40,367 absentee ballots cast in Franklin County  that’s Columbus, the President led Senator Kerry by exactly 267 of them.  That’s not the case in Cuyahoga (Cleveland), where Kerry got nearly two out of every three absentees (49,816 to 27,770).     
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Fox's Dick Morris, wrapping up his story for The Hill, wrote in his final paragraph, "This was no mere mistake. Exit polls cannot be as wrong across the board as they were on election night.  I suspect foul play."
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When the majority of Americans realise they’ve been conned (again) surely there has to be some massive civil disobedience. The majority of Americans who voted for Kerry should do something, like refusing to pay their taxes that are used to fight an illegal war in order to bolster Halliburton’s already ill-gotten profits.

And why not?  This would be more effective than complaining about the result. Or - how about everyone begs OPEC to switch oil trading currency to the Euro, that would create a "run" on the US dollar (kinda like what happened to Argentina) - thus bringing the war machine to a grinding halt. . . . just a thought, and admittedly it is quite extreme, but so is another four years of Bush madness!!!

marc deeley, glasgow.
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Ehhh Frrrazer,
A bit of a half drunk night mail, my semi forbidden semi Pitbull dog invaded my armchair and I am typing on the floor.  I am sitting here, shifting some of my meagre remainders of past Internet investments to Solar Energy Stocks.  Why I do this?  Because Oil Peak will hit soon... IT WILL!  And the UP! brought my attention back to this long known and rather unavoidable FACT!

The thing that annoys me is that the re- enthroned Government of the u-dot-s-dot and their cronies profit most from the crisis - a crisis that is not a coming one but one that already is in full bloom.

The oil price will rise, rise and ever rise from now on (well - it will wax and wane and go up and down to create this and that illusion to fool those who are unable to extend their memories and their foresight beyond 3 months) but otherwise REALITY will take over and the oil price will go up and up and up and up. 

And those who have oil - as little as that may be - will profit from that rise.  If I were a Texas Oil well owner, I'd put my pumps all on halt and WAIT. WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.  The best investment I could make!  Because it will not be long before people will sell their souls for the rotten remainder of oily sludge that rests in my hypothetical ground....  Let us not forget that
Oil Peak means a major shift of...  EVERYTHING.  Well -  not really of everything.  The astronomer in me tells me that the universe at large will remain rather unimpressed.  But for us little Earth dwellers everything will be at stake.  And this shift is happening.  Right now.  Right here on the one and only planet Earth, and not somewhere in some anti utopian novel fantasy. 

 
I am wondering if there is any credibility to the stories related to
the voting machines.  Although I am a Geographer and Astro Physicist who sank down (after the shadowy bankruptcy of a long forgotten world company named Commodore International) to the levels of being a mere writer, I did once in the early ‘90s own a company specialising in Systems Security.  And therefore, yes - I assume this ballot betrayal is well within the realm of the possible
 
 But to quote one of my heroes, the great Richard Feynman: "The question is not whether something is possible. The Question is whether it actually is going on..."  What would be worse: if George Bush were re-elected by manipulation, or if despite his records he were re-elected by an actual popular vote of the people of the United States of America? 

 
Now it is time to throw my dog out of the armchair and go to sleep.  Like most of the rest of the PLANET.

Stefan Thiesen, Westphalia at night, Germany, EU
www.mindquest.de
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flashback  November 2, 2004 | 10:35 p.m. ET
It's 10 p.m., do you know where your spin is?


Secaucus  How right have we been tonight about the distress in the White House?  The re-election campaign admitted a pool camera and still photographers to the residence to videotape images of Mr. Bush and his family sitting around stiffly on a couch, he in a white shirt and a tie, smiling towards the media and saying “I believe I will win. It’s going to be an exciting evening.”


Well, the night Titanic sank was an exciting evening.

The President’s men had begun whining about the exit polling and its interpretation since shortly after 7 PM tonight.  Norah O’Donnell’s 9:50 EST report had referred to “
anxiety” from Republicans out in the field, and perhaps the odd photo-op was designed as much to reassure them as to counter-effect the exit polling with which the White House so fervently disagreed.


Brian Williams offered the astute observation that the White House did need to influence photo and videotape selection.  Mr. Bush had been captured with stern and/or exhausted looks on his face at yesterday’s pre-election events, and today’s voting - and that’s the last thing the campaign wanted to project.  Hence, in Norah’s phrase, the decision to “
put the President out.”


As I write here Mr. Bush is up by around 80 Electoral Votes, and just about that many from the promised land.  But the Zogby forecast from 5:30 EST tonight - which ends with Senator Kerry getting at least 311 and the President no more than 227 - has performed flawlessly through the first 32 NBC state projections.
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On Friday I received a phone call from a good friend who works at CBS.  I've known her for years and she is a producer for some of the news programs, one well known one in particular.

She tipped me off that the news media is in a "lock-down" and that there is to be no TV coverage of the real problems with voting on Nov. 2nd.  She said similar "lock-down orders" had come up last year after the Iraq invasion, but this is far worse - far scarier.  She said the majority of their journalists at CBS and elsewhere in NYC are pretty horrified - every one is worried about their jobs and retribution Dan Rather style or worse.

My source said they've also been forbidden to talk about it even on their own time but she was pissed and her journalistic and moral integrity as a gov't watchdog requires her to speak out, albeit covertly, and she asked me to "spread" the word...She said journalism and truth are at stake.

She said another friend of hers, a producer at MSNBC, told her an anchor by the name of Keith Olbermann
[see several entries from him in this UP!] had raised it on his show on Friday eve and the axe came down.  At least he’s fighting back and talking about it on his "Blog", but she said people there are worried he's going to be fired. 
She said the only way the "real news" was going to get out at this point is if the people start talking and made a big enough stink about it to our elected officials, the FEC, and "noise" to the international media, that our own media won't have any choice but to cover it.  (Yes, this is really happening in the good ole' supposed "democratic" free press of the US of A).  The only place you'll see this talked about right now is on the internet and on AirAmericaRadio.

 


Everyone - this is serious....I can't emphasize it any more than saying if there was ever a time to speak up and take action it is NOW.  If you are feeling sick to your stomach (like me) about the possibility of 4 more years under Bush and the future of our country, and yet you feel helpless, here's your opportunity to take action.  Imagine if you saw a loved one drowning - what do you do?  Well, our country's democracy is drowning and she needs us.

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