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Nina, 34, a successful business consultant, is wrestling with what feels like an insoluble dilemma. Whether or not to have children. “By the time my mother was my age she had four children. It was a nonissue for her. She met my dad, got married and then had babies,” she says. “But it feels very different for me.”
Nina lives in London with her partner of five years, enjoying an enviable lifestyle of interesting work, plenty of money and a busy social life. But last year she suddenly felt broody for the first time in her life. “I had never wanted children, but suddenly I had this almost overwhelming physical urge,” she says.
So why not just open a bottle of wine, pop some folic acid and let nature take its course? “My boyfriend is five years younger than me and he is launching a new business,” says Nina. “He told me that he’d like kids one day, but I’m 34 already and am scared of trying to have children too late. I didn’t want to issue an ultimatum as I wanted it to be a joint decision, but my clock was ticking. I felt confused.”
Nina’s next decision was, perhaps, a surprising one. She went to see a life coach; one who specialises in coaching women who cannot decide whether or not to have children. Beth Follini, who was a manager and mentor in the voluntary sector before training with the UK Coaches Training Institute, set up her business, www.ticktockcoaching.co.uk, a year ago. She soon realised that she’d hit a nerve with many modern women, for whom starting a family is anything but straightforward. The result of this agonising is that unprecedented numbers of women are not having children. According to the Centre for Research on Families and Relationships, one woman in five now remains childless, with nearly one in three degree-educated woman never becoming a mother.
“In many ways, what I do is a sign of the times, says Follini, 37, a mother of a two-year-old son, who lives in London with her partner. “My clients are both in relationships and single, mostly over 30, often in demanding jobs. Some feel a strong urge to have children but are frightened of the implications, socially, financially and in terms of their career. Others want children, but their partner doesn’t. Some are in their mid-thirties and don’t feel ready, but realise that they may face problems conceiving if they delay. Others have discovered that they have a fertility problem and don’t know if they should have treatment or learn to live with it.
“Some don’t feel broody at all but feel a social pressure to have children and may be scared that they will regret not having them in the future. That there will be nobody to visit them in their nursing home. A lot of them feel stuck. They come to me to find a way through their feelings.”
One of the key problems Follini identifies is that women are often frightened of having children. She says: “They are used to having choices and control of those choices. With a job you can always resign. You can move from one country to another. Today women even marry knowing that it doesn’t have to be for ever. But there is no way to sample motherhood; you can’t try it out to see if you like it. People no longer just assume that things will be OK.”
In fact, with raising a child seeming more daunting than ever, it’s unsurprising that women tie themselves in knots about it. These days parenting is a science, a competitive sport and a vocation rolled into one. It is laced with paranoia about food, education and emotional nurturing. And while some of us feel the fear but do it anyway, others, says Follini, feel worried that they won’t be up to the job. “The pressure to be perfect is huge. You are expected to be beautiful, to lead an exciting life, be young and have an amazing career. They want to be in the perfect house, with the perfect partner, creating the perfect life for their child. But how many people with children can really do that? Something has to give. One subject I often raise is the concept of the good enough parent, the good enough person,” she says.
Perhaps the key problem for Nina, though, is her boyfriend’s unwillingness to take this most fundamental plunge into the unknown with her. It is perhaps ironic that the very liberation that was supposed to set women free to think and act independently has left many feeling at the mercy of men in one of the most fundamental and important parts of their lives. “I feel jealous that my partner can have children later than I can,” Nina admits.
The man-factor is something that Follini acknowledges is at the heart of many women’s baby-making dilemmas. “We live in a kidult culture,” she says. “Some of my clients are in relationships with 35-year-old men who think that they are too young to become fathers. In all the debates about why women aren’t having children, this is the great unspoken problem. Where are the men? Having children challenges their view of themselves as eternal adolescents. Women are not the irresponsible ones refusing to have children, but in many cases men are making it difficult and challenging for them.”
Is Follini, who is patently madly in love with her own son, ever tempted just to tell her clients to get on with it? And do these women not have friends to confide in who will say the same? She laughs. “I don’t bring my feelings about parenthood to the session. What I am trying to do is to discover how my clients feel, to find out what they want. They probably do have confidants, but that’s not what coaching is about. I feel that people should be able to find someone to talk to who isn’t pushing their own agenda.”
For those who wish to pay £38 a session for telephone coaching or £48 for face-to-face coaching, Follini offers a mixture of exercises to root out her clients’ fears and desires. “One of the most powerful is to ask women to visualise their future selves in, say, 15 years’ time,” she says. “This often helps to clarify women’s priorities. If you have an averagely busy life you can get bogged down with your small daily agendas and ignore the larger vision until it is too late. For example, is the most important thing to be in a relationship with children, or is just having children more of a priority? What do you want from motherhood? Connections with other people? Social acceptability? Can you meet those needs in other ways? Do you want to do that?”
She also discusses practical issues. “If a single woman comes to me who wants to have a child but is scared of the implications, we might look at her financial security and ways to develop supportive social networks. I can signpost her to appropriate fertility treatment if necessary.”
In the case of a client who enjoys being child-free but would like to have children in her life, Follini might explore options such as mentoring children. “I have sometimes discovered that a woman who says she is undecided actually doesn’t want children, but is worried about how she will be perceived. A man of 47 with no children is often admired, but a woman may well be pitied or thought of as hard and unfulfilled.”
One problem that many of her clients share is a fear of the cost implications. In a world where having children has gone from being seen as a social duty to being regarded as a luxury lifestyle choice, the perceived financial burden of parenthood can be terrifying. “House prices are a big issue for some of my clients,” says Follini. “They feel they will need a house if they have a family and cannot imagine how they will afford it. They also worry about the impact on their career and earning capacity.”
She admits that previous generations probably worried much less about this, and Nina agrees. “I’m sure my parents didn’t sit down with a spreadsheet when they decided to have me and my siblings. But it seems more important now. Perhaps because we have children later. I know that if I wait until my partner’s business is more established we will be in a better financial position to have a child. I will have paid off my mortgage in five years’ time. But the downside is that we will be older and my parents will be older, too, and might be too frail to be the kind of grandparents that I had.”
Nina says that she is finding the counselling insightful and useful. “Sometimes it throws up more questions than answers, but I have clarified my choices, which are to have a baby regardless, think about adoption if that doesn’t work out, to decide to remain childless or to see what happens in two to three years’ time. V Is deciding to have a baby difficult or should women just get on with it? Tell us what you think: body&soul@the times.co.uk
Time for baby? The questions to ask when making the decision on whether or not to have children
What is important to me about having children? What is important to me about being childfree? What are the values/ feelings that you associate with having children? How can you have those values/ feelings without having your own biological children? Close your eyes and visualise your self in 20 years’ time; what is her life like? What does she look like? Who is around her? How does she seem? Ask her a question; how do you get from where you are now to where she is? If the issue is that your partner doesn’t want children, list the values that are important to you in a relationship. Ask your partner to do the same and discuss what comes up. If you are single and want children but are worried about doing it on your own, write down all your fears or worries about having children on your own. Then list the actions that you can take to address your fears/worries. Beth Follini, a “baby coach”, will be holding workshops on having children in London in June. For further details and information, visit www.ticktockcoaching.co.uk or phone 07793 554228. You can also e-mail Follini on beth@ticktockcoaching.co.uk
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I'm a hardbitten career women who spent considerable amount of time in a relationship with a man who wanted children. When I was diagnosed with endometriosis at the age of 30 and warned that I'll probably have big time problems conceiving if I put off motherhood for much longer, my partner (also 30) said he wasn't ready for a baby. we quarreled a lot, but he wouldn't give in. so left with no choice I tricked him into pregnancy. do i feel bad? not at all. If his moral right is to try stopping his partner from being a biological mum and at the same time still have unprotected sex with her, then it's my moral right to lie about contraception.
I won't probably have more kids because of my condition
mm, SPlit, Croatia
I am thirty nine and happily married. We own our own home in one of the nicest areas in the country. We are not considered wealthy, but we enjoy our lives together, along with our family and friends. I love being an aunt to my two little nieces. My problem is that although I have a sense of happiness with my life as it is, people tell me that I am unfulfilled. I can't tell you how many times I have heard from a co-worker that I must have a child, and I feel as if they are pitying me. It's as if I am happy until someone tells me I should be sad. There is not enough information out there in our society to help explain that it is okay to not have children. Their ignorance can be so overwheliming sometimes. If anything, these people should feel grateful that I am not contributing to our overpopulation problem. Besides, aren't I paying for their childrens education with my taxes? I just would like people to learn to accept different life choices of other people.
Gina , San Jose, USA/CA
I believe you should consider all of your options. Having children is the best experience of ones life, if that is what you desire, as long as you can provide a stable relationship and framework.
By having children you are starting a new life, not only for yourself but for your baby too, good luck!
becca, liverpool,
I became a father at 26, and it was something that my partner (25 at the time) and I didn't plan for. For a long time, I was shell-shocked; we had just come to London and I had this whole idea of how amazing life was going to be for us as young professionals etc etc.
But you know, I have tried - very hard - to imagine what life would be like without our 3-year-old. More disposable income? Yep. More spontaneous social life? Uh-huh. But now, because of our son, my wife and I are a much stronger couple. Our present and future just seems to have so much more meaning. And besides, it's not like our lives are over: kids > babysitter/auntie > adult fun!!
It can be difficult, but the joy, love and sense of purpose is beyond anything someone without children can imagine. You can never be FULLY prepared for it though, and things don't have to be 'perfect' (how boring). All your baby wants is love. Long office hours, fleeting friendships and lonely old lives? Has it's time, but very overrated.
Gregory Morgan, London, UK
Quite frankly, if you try to look at all the implications of having children in one fell swoop, no one would ever do it. There are so many possible problems - look at the poor parents who were bludgeoned to death by their personality disordered teenage son! Having children is a leap of faith, without any guarantees. The rewards can be immeasurably high - the problems heartbreaking. But be aware - children are not like a pet. They are new people - individuals who will go their own way, over whom a parent has very little if any control. Having children is about giving a new person life then the best start possible.
Helen S, Liverpool,
Somewhat tongue-in-cheek: 1) do what many women in their 30s do now (and was done to me) find a man in his 50s who's now relaxed about life and no longer bothered about silly lifestyle-issues 2) an older man will have fewer fertility/sexuality problems 3) make sure he's not having to work too hard and has his own place with a low mortgage and few outgoings 4) an older man will have those most precious assets: time and patience 5) don't expect him to be a 'modern man' but at least he will be there and once he's got used to the idea of children he'll be devoted 6) if he says no to children give him a time-limit before leaving him to have children as a single mum.....he'll panic, get angry, resent you, think about it, get used to it, and eventually love the idea 7) do not skimp on the sex and he'll agree to anything
Chris Thomas, Oxford,
A refreshing article that really brings to light the problems modern women face - is there any chance of life-coaching today's teenagers (and pre-teens) to think about responsibility and commitment before they start "families" of their own?
M, Pimlico,
I am not a hardbitten career woman, but all the same, I have to earn a living like 99.9% of women these days who don't have Daddies to pay for them, and also, I enjoy it! its fun getting money in return for hard work.
I'm 27 & I would like children probably within in the next 10 years. I'd like a few, maybe four. Is that selfish? Or is it selfish to not have children? Can I rely on the state (to whom I have been giving a fair portion of my hard earned cash) to provide even one child of mine with a decent education? What about housing this potential family? Or even the matter of finding a guy who is in my peer group to persuade to have a family? I do not know one man out of my friendship group who wants children before 35, most of the girls do.
As a woman you're damned if you do ("women always taking advantage of maternity leave" etc etc) or damned if you don't ("these selfish, immature women who won't have kids"). Enough guys - its a bl*ody impossible situation!
V, London, UK
I imagine there is certainly a demand for such counselling and it sounds marvellous. Thinking carefully before starting a family should be applauded. Yes our parents or others may have "plunged" and good for them. It may be right for some to "plunge", it may be right for others to "plan". Either can end in disappointment or delight, and there are no guarantees. Good luck to all those contemplating the change.
N Tate, Birmingham,
Glad to see you have something else to blame the lads for, ladies.
Keep growling about men who are "afraid to commit" while feminist groups lobby for more and more unjust financial awards to the ex-wife in divorce while they refuse to even contemplate joint custody standards in Family Court.
If you want to see who's got relationship problems, just look in the mirror.
Parson Jim, San Diego, CA, USA
There is never a right time but if a single mother on benefits can raise a brood, then why can't a high flyer?
What's the big deal? Just do it!
JD, babies'r'us, nosleep
I am afraid this whole metropolitan child angst thing leaves me feeling halfway between wanting to bang people's heads together and sorry for the lost generation. My wife and I started a family in our late 30s, three children later we are dazed but very happy. Point 1, there is never a right time to have kids 2, family planning my foot, babies come along when they feel like it, 3 you will never be in the kind of financial position you want to be in when you have kids. You will find that £100K a year goes almost nowhere when nannies and school fees are taken into consideration. Forget foreign holidays, hello cottages in Cornwall and Scotland, which you will travel to in your people carrier (having traded in your sports saloon), full of discarded food, bags and bags of kit and screaming kids. Is it worth it? You bet it is, kids are the best thing that can happen to you, they make a good marriage a great one. Just be realistic, you can't have everything or do everything you want.
Andy, Bury St Edmunds,
I agree with the point re: men being the sticking factor in the kids decision! So many articles have come out in the last few years where doctors reproach women for leaving it until later in life to have children, for wanting to "have it all" in having a career first and children later. But even if I *did* want to have children at the age of 25, when I'm "biologically" best-set to have them, where is the man I'm supposed to have them with? He's down the pub with The Lads, revelling in his endless boyhood. Which, fine, but it's hardly my fault for not getting knocked up at the biologically optimal time.
liz, horsham,
I made the decision to put off having children until my thirties. The usual excuses of financial security, freedom and not feeling old enough to do the "job" properly. Then, shock horror, when my husband and I finally decided to give it a go, nothing happened. We tried for a couple of years, at which point we abandoned the idea, resigned to the fact that everything else in our lives seemed perfect. In January just before my 39 birthday I found out I was pregnant and far from being overjoyed I was stunned and reticent at the major changes that were about to occur in our lives. And this I believe is why many of us are delaying starting families. The older we get the more we manage to fool ourselves that we are in control of our destinies. The thought of launching yourself into the unknown and seemingly fraught world of parenting is too daunting. Once we resigned ourselves to the fact that we were on the train and couldn't get off it suddenly became so easy and exciting!
Philippa Dyble, Stafford, Staffordshire