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willytex

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Feb 9, 2002, 11:52:18 AM2/9/02
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Thread: Kanchi Mutt
Subject: A vacant lot as recently as the 19th century. .
Author: willytex
Date: 02/09/2002

"The Kanchi mutt people go about saying that Adi Sankarar established their
mutt even before the birth of Jesus Christ but the Government records show
that the place where the mutt stands now was a vacant Inam poramboke land
even in the 19th century.

The bogus Kanchi Sankara mutt is an institution which was brought into
existence by resorting to fraudulent means and third rate methods as it is
certainly not one of the four mutts originally founded by Adi Sankarar. The
four mutts originally founded by Adi Sankarar are Badrinarth in the north,
Sringeri in the South, Puri Jagannatham in the east and Dwaraka in the
west."

Source:

THE MODERN RATIONALIST
http://www.themronline.com/200108idx.html


ColdBluICE

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Feb 27, 2002, 4:39:15 PM2/27/02
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Thread: Kanchi Mutt
Subject: Current Events
Author: willyTex Blaster/ColdBluICEMan

> "willytex" wrote

> Forum: alt.meditation.transcendental
> Thread: Kanchi Mutt
> Subject: A vacant lot as recently as the 19th century. .

- Namaste willyTex
Most Politely, may I adivse for certain facts that pertain directly
to, your many misconceptions. please see link

(http://www.kamakoti.org/peeth/aboutpeetham.html)
More than 2500 years ago, an avalanche of heretic and non-Vedic sects,
with horrible religious practices threatened to wipe away the ancient
Veda-Dharma. In the Bhagavad Geeta, Lord Krishna has told Arjuna that,
whenever there arises danger to Dharma, He (Krishna) will incarnate in
this world to eradicate adharma and re-establish Dharma. In consonance
with his words, the Lord has made partial incarnations during the
course of the present Kali Age… [end]

> <snip> The bogus Kanchi Sankara mutt is an institution which was

> brought into existence by resorting to fraudulent means

- Once again you post disparaging comments regarding the
establishment of this Peetham, see link

(http://www.kamakoti.org/peeth/aboutpeetham.html)
Sri Kanchi Kamakoti Peetham has the distinction of an unbroken line of
70 Acharyas till now. The Acharyas have taken measures for the
protection of Veda Dharma, for propagating the Advaita discipline, and
alleviating the sufferings of the people… [end]



> The four mutts originally founded by Adi Sankarar are
> Badrinarth in the north,
> Sringeri in the South, Puri Jagannatham in the east and Dwaraka in
> the west."

-May I advise you of the recent loss of standing of Sringeri Matha.
As I have maintained at this n.g. for very nearly 2 years now.
The original Mathas established by Sri Adi Shankar were:
Kanchi in the South-(of which Sringeri is a branch Matha)
- Dwarika in the North
- Puri in the east
- Jyosimath/Badrinarth in the north

In a recent Dharm Sansad held in honor of the Birthday of
Shankaracharya Swami Swaroopananda, with Indian Congress President
Sonia Gandhi in attendance, all four Mathas were represented.
However, there were only three Jagadguru Shankaracharya in attendance.

How is it that all four Mathas were represented and yet there were
only three respected Spiritual leaders?:
Nischalanand Saraswati of Puri,
Swami Swaroopanand of Dwarka and
Vijayendra Saraswati of Kanchi

There was no mention of the Sringeri Matha (as this Matha is a branch
Of Kanchi Peth and represented by Vijayendra Saraswati)
And, regarding Jyosimath/Badrinarth (this Matha was represented by
Swami Swaroopanand of Dwarka).

No reference to: Sringeri Matha, nor Swami VasuDevananda is made in
any recent events such as the Dharm Sansad. As numerous recent court
rulings have cited Swami Vasudevananda's claim at Jyosimath as
invalid.

And yet you insist on maintaining your completely ignorant claims on
this topic. (Incidentally, I have discredited all of your posts
regarding this subject matter and the True Teachings of Sri Adi
Shankar).

See links
http://www.timesofindia.com/articleshow.asp?art_id=1589574&sType=1
Sonia to attend dharam sansad in MP
[ WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 20,2002 9:29:53 PM ]

NEW DELHI: Congress president Sonia Gandhi will visit Dighauri in
Madhya Pradesh on Friday where a multi-religious dharam sansad is
being held, with the Shankaracharyas of four peeths attending…
[end]

http://www.timesofindia.com/articleshow.asp?art_id=1663537&sType=1
Sonia to attend Hindu meet tomorrow
IANS [ THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 21, 2002 3:14:57 PM ]

NEW DELHI: Congress President Sonia Gandhi is all set to meet India's
top Hindu seers on Friday.

Congress leaders said Gandhi would participate in the closing session
of a religious congregation at the tribal district of Seoni in Madhya
Pradesh.

Sonia is also expected to meet the three Shankaracharyas --
Nischalanand Saraswati of Puri,
Swami Swaroopanand of Dwarka and
Vijayendra Saraswati of Kanchi -- and seek their blessings…[end]


http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucgadkw/position/shank-jyot-ascii.html
The latest development from this angle is that
on February 22, 1999, the court at Allahabad, Uttar Pradesh,
has passed an interim order, prohibiting Vasudevananda from
using the title of Sankaracharya to collect any donations,
till the legal case gets resolved either way.
The reasons cited for this order are that his installation is
suspect,
[end]

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow.asp?catkey=-
2128819658&art_id=444328053&sType=1
MONDAY, NOVEMBER 26, 2001
District judge rejects Swami's plea
TIMES NEWS NETWORK
ALLAHABAD: District judge Jagmohan Paliwal dismissed the revision
application of Swami Vasudevanand Saraswati, and upheld the order
of February 13 passed by civil judge (junior division) west,
Allahabad.

The civil Judge, on February 13 this year had dismissed the two
applications of Swami Vasudevanand Saraswati, whereby he had
prayed that contempt proceedings pending against him be rejected
in light of the High Court Order.

Shankaracharya Swami Swaroopanand Saraswati
has filed a suit, seeking relief that Swami Vasudevanand
Saraswati be restrained by the court from proclaiming himself Jagat
Guru
Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath Badrikashram Himalaya.
The Additional Civil Judge (Second), Allahabad on February 22,
1999 had passed a temporary injunction, restraining Swami
Vasudevanand,
not to proclaim himself as Jagat Guru Shankaracharya of Jyotishpeeth
Badrikashram Himalaya and work accordingly.
[end]


You indeed make it very easy to expose your ignorance on these and
other topics!!

will...@yahoo.com

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Feb 28, 2002, 12:13:01 AM2/28/02
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Forum: alt.meditation.transcendental
Thread: Kanchi Mutt
Subject: A dharmacharya sammelan at the ashram of the Jagatguru.
Author: will...@yahoo.com
Date: 02/27/2002

> Willytex wrote
> (...)


> The bogus Kanchi Sankara mutt is an institution which

> was brought into existence by resorting to fraudulent means...
>
>> Steve Perino wrote
>> (...)
>> Most Politely, may I adivse for certain facts...
>> ...the recent loss of standing of Sringeri Matha...

Mr. Perino - There were no valid Shankaracharyas at the meeting with Sonia
because the Shankaracharya of Sringeri and the Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath
were not in attendance. Sonia Gandhi is an Italian Catholic, not a
Shankaracharya.

Forum: alt.meditation.transcendental
Thread: VHP Sammelan
Subject: Dharmacharya Sammelan at Alopibagh Ashram.
Author: willytex
Date: 02/08/2002

ALLAHABAD: The Vishwa Hindu Parishad shall hold its dharmacharya sammelan at
the ashram of Jagatguru Shankaracharya Swami Vasudevanand ji Maharaj on
August 24 at Alopibagh where the seers are to decide upon the final date of
Ram temple construction date at Ayodhya.

Senior VHP activist Triveni Mishra said the Sri Ram Janambhoomi Nyas has
completed preparations for temple construction and final decisons to this
effect will be taken at the sammelan.

The dharmacharya sammelan was held on Monday, August 20, 2001.

Source:

The Times of India
Times News Netwirk

Forum: alt.meditation.transcendental
Thread: Kanchi Mutt

Subject: Fraudulent means and third rate methods.
Author: willytex
Date: 02/09/2002

"If we accept the fact that we are Hindus, we will also have to accept the
fact that we are sudras and concede the fact that we are the lowly fourth
castemen and bastards born of brahmins, as that is the fundamental concept
of the Varnashrama system or the caste system. We shall have to carry on a
statewide propaganda and give wide publicity to it through wall posters all
over the State.

The Sankara mutt people go about saying that Adi Sankarar established their

mutt even before the birth of Jesus Christ but the Government records show

that the place where the mutt stands now was a vacant land even in the 19th
century.

The bogus Kanchi Sankara mutt is an institution which was brought into

existence by resorting to fraudulent means and third rate methods as it is

certainly not one of the four mutts originally founded by Adi Sankarar. The

four mutts originally founded by Adi Sankarar are Badrinarth in the north,
Sringeri in the South, Puri Jagannatham in the east and Dwaraka in the
west."

Source:

Forum: alt.meditation.transcendental
Thread: On the QT
Subject: Hindu religious leaders blast BJP.
Author: willytex
Date: 02/04/2002

The Tribune
Lucknow, February 1

Hindu religious leaders today lambasted the BJP for putting off the Ayodhya
issue till 2004, stating that success of the Ram Temple movement did not
depend on any political party.

Jagadguru Ramanujacharya Swami Purushottamacharya, a senior member of the
Ram Janmabhoomi Trust, said in Ayodhya that the issue might not be important
for the BJP but was a matter of self-respect and faith for devotees of lord
Rama.

He also lambasted BJP president K. Jana Krishnamurty for making a statement
"against the VHP". Mr Krishnamurty had yesterday said if the VHP did not
accept the court verdict, legal action would follow. The Jagadguru said the
BJP should introspect its stand on the Ayodhya issue to resolve the matter.

Baba Dharmadas, another member of the trust and the Mahant of Hanumangadhi
at Ayodhya, said the movement was a religious and cultural issue, supported
by overwhelming Hindus.

"The statement of the BJP president is condemnable," he added.

VHP media in charge Sharad Sharma said, “Devotees would start the
construction of the temple after March 12 in accordance with the decision of
saints (top religious leaders). "He lamented that the issue was pending
before the court for long. "The government should return the encroached land
to Hindus. Only then can the issue be resolved" he claimed.

According to a report from Kanpur, VHP Awadh province executive president
Ramnath Mahendra condemned the statement of Mr Krishnamurty. He said the VHP
was prepared to face any eventuality for its "sacred cause," but warned the
BJP that its new stand on the issue would invite the people’s wrath.

In Allahabad, Jyotishpeethadishwar Jagatguru Shankaracharya Swami
Basudevanand Saraswati said the Ayodhya issue should not be politicised as
it was a matter of faith for the entire Hindu community.

Addressing a gathering after inaugurating a medicare camp at Magh Mela, the
swami hoped that the temple would surely be built at Ayodhya. UNI

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2002/20020202/nation.htm

ColdBluICE

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Feb 28, 2002, 11:21:29 AM2/28/02
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> willytex wrote in message
> Thread: Kanchi Mutt
> Subject: A dharmacharya sammelan at the ashram of the Jagatguru.
> Author: will...@yahoo.com
> Date: 02/27/2002
>
> > Willytex wrote
> > (...)
> > The bogus Kanchi Sankara mutt is an institution which
> > was brought into existence by resorting to fraudulent means...
> >
> >> Steve Perino wrote
> >> (...)
> >> Most Politely, may I adivse for certain facts...
> >> ...the recent loss of standing of Sringeri Matha...
>
> Mr. Perino - There were no valid Shankaracharyas at the meeting with Sonia

- Namaste Sir Willy,

So, please tell me-, &#8216;which of your lies/truths am I to
believe?&#8217;

You wrote to John Manning on Oct. 18, 2001 and explained in very
certain detail, the Jagadguru Shankaracharyas of Kanchi and Puri and
Dwarika. It well appears the three Shankaracharyas you in fact cited
in Oct. were indeed presence, at the recent Dharn Sansad, held in
honor of- Shankaracharya Swami Swaroopananda&#8216;s Birthday.
Please read *YOUR OWN POST* dated 2001-10-18

> >> From: willytex (will...@yahoo.com)
> >> Subject: Re: Brahmachari Devendra
> >> Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
> >> View: Complete Thread (32 articles) | Original Format

> >> Date: 2001-10-18 10:12:13 PST
> >> Forum: alt.meditation.transcendental
> >> Thread: Bhogi Alleges
> >> Subject: Pure hearsay and unsupported speculation.
> >> Author: willytex
> >> Date: 10/18/2001

> >> > John Manning wrote
> >> > In the case with MMY, the Shankaracaryas
> >> > with the exception of the one MMY gives money to,

> >> John - Unsupported allegations. Apparently, you John Manning,
> >> have never even set foot in Mother India, and have never
> >> come within five thousand miles of a "Shankaracharya

> >> 1) Please provide excerpts from the transcripts of your
> >> conversations with the following Shankaracharyas:

> >> Sri Jayendra Saraswati Swamigal
> >> Sri Swami Nischalanand
> >> Sri Swami Swaroopanand


> because the Shankaracharya of Sringeri and the Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath
> were not in attendance. Sonia Gandhi is an Italian Catholic, not a
> Shankaracharya.

-Ya sure, first you told me-, "Indian Congress President Sonia Gandhi
was not Indian".
Now you tell me Sonia Gandhi is Italian Catholic,... why then did she
attend Kumbha Mela last year. And seek teh Blessings of Shankaracharya
Swami Swaroopananda?

- Read the headlines today regarding the
*Dregs of the Indian Populist Movements*, the VHP??
It seems 57 of favorite radical fundmental Hindus were *lit up* by
some angry Muslims in Ayodhya yesterday!!
The VHP insists on agitating the Muslims on the Sri Ram Temple
construction issue.

Now the Indian P.M. has dispatched the army to quell the ensuing
riots.
Why do you continue to support these violent confrontational militant
terrorists-(VHP)??

> Date: 02/08/2002
>
> ALLAHABAD: The Vishwa Hindu Parishad shall hold its dharmacharya sammelan at
> the ashram of Jagatguru Shankaracharya Swami Vasudevanand ji Maharaj on
> August 24 at Alopibagh where the seers are to decide upon the final date of
> Ram temple construction date at Ayodhya.
>
> Senior VHP activist Triveni Mishra said the Sri Ram Janambhoomi Nyas has
> completed preparations for temple

> Subject: Hindu religious leaders blast BJP.
> Author: willytex
> Date: 02/04/2002


> Hindu religious leaders today lambasted the BJP for putting off the Ayodhya
> issue till 2004, stating that success of the Ram Temple movement did not
> depend on any political party.
>
> Jagadguru Ramanujacharya Swami Purushottamacharya, a senior member of the
> Ram Janmabhoomi Trust, said in Ayodhya that the issue might not be important
> for the BJP but was a matter of self-respect and faith for devotees of lord
> Rama.
>
> He also lambasted BJP president K. Jana Krishnamurty for making a statement
> "against the VHP". Mr Krishnamurty had yesterday said if the VHP did not
> accept the court verdict, legal action would follow. The Jagadguru said the
> BJP should introspect its stand on the Ayodhya issue to resolve the matter.
>

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