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The Rifleman

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Apr 4, 2004, 1:42:12 PM4/4/04
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Any decent DIY suggestions on pulling rotten molars?, I,ve got an abcess the
size of a sodding golf ball round my last upper right molar where a filling
has gone spectacularly wrong, and its going to be days before I can get to
see my dentist, Sooooooo any sensible DIY technique for yanking the damn
thing out ???


Greg

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Apr 4, 2004, 3:23:41 PM4/4/04
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"The Rifleman" <st...@nospamdaily3747.btnet.com> wrote in message
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I'd be damned careful with it - if the abscess is bad enough, the bone is
involved. Ripping out a molar with a decent attachment to weakened bone can
pull bone frags + molar out, leading to even worse problems.

I recall reading about one guy that did it himself - took out two additional
teeth and a sizable fragment of his upper mandible along with them.

Greg


Alan Connor

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Apr 4, 2004, 5:08:54 PM4/4/04
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The inner bark of native willows, fresh, will help with the pain, as
will raw tears of the poppy and the clear 'mucus' at the base
of growing cattails.

Starting now, take several doses of a natural anti-biotic like
goldenseal, echinacea, or oregon grape root over a 6 hour period.

This is something you need help with (like sex :-). Get someone
and a pair of pliers and after you have stoked up on the pain stuff,
have them put you out by cutting off the blood to your head after
the fashion you learned in 3rd grade.

They need to work it gently back and forth for a while, then push
IN and twist as they pull it out.

Keep the wound clean with salt water and stop any excess bleeding by
stuffing the wound with sterile cloth/sturdy paper.

Continue with the anti-biotic for several days and drink lots of water.
(use more pain stuff if you need)

(you can lessen the overall discomfort and make the extraction easier
by working the tooth back and forth in cycles when the pain peaks)

My sympathies...

AC

Perry Noid

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Apr 4, 2004, 5:33:19 PM4/4/04
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The Rifleman <st...@nospamdaily3747.btnet.com> wrote:

Using hydrogen peroxide as a mouth wash would help fight the infection.
Pulling teeth doesn't cost that much. I'd wait to see the dentist.

North

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Apr 4, 2004, 5:57:52 PM4/4/04
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On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 18:42:12 +0100, "The Rifleman"
<st...@nospamdaily3747.btnet.com> said:

First begin a 10 day course of antibiotics.
Goto town and buy some cocaine (if no coke then use tooth ache gell)
numb up your tooth with the coke(by packing it all around the tooth)
and use a dental pick or better a dental hook. Slide the hook along
the tooth, under the gum and up under the tooth and pry it out. Be
careful because you might splinter the jaw bone. Use the dental pick
to pick out the broken pieces of tooth and any bone fragments. Finish
out the 10 day supply of anti biotics and use peroxide or a good
antiseptic mouthwash.

However, If I were you, I'd call around and find a dentist that could
see you ASAP !!! An absesed tooth can kill you.

Ian Stirling

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Apr 4, 2004, 6:10:00 PM4/4/04
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Alan Connor <zzz...@xxx.yyy> wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 18:42:12 +0100, The Rifleman <st...@nospamdaily3747.btnet.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Any decent DIY suggestions on pulling rotten molars?, I,ve got an abcess the
>> size of a sodding golf ball round my last upper right molar where a filling
>> has gone spectacularly wrong, and its going to be days before I can get to
>> see my dentist, Sooooooo any sensible DIY technique for yanking the damn
>> thing out ???
>>
>>
>
> The inner bark of native willows, fresh, will help with the pain, as

Or for the lazy, a fraction of an asprin tablet.
(do not exceed the recommended dose).
Low voltage AC can also help numb the pain, 9V@500Hz IIRC.
Worked well for me.
Applied across the tooth.
Killed the pain totaly for several hours.
(do not exceed the recommended voltage)

Perry Noid

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Apr 4, 2004, 6:21:32 PM4/4/04
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North <nor...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 18:42:12 +0100, "The Rifleman"
> <st...@nospamdaily3747.btnet.com> said:
>

> >........its going to be days before I can get to
> >see my dentist,

> However, If I were you, I'd call around and find a dentist that could


> see you ASAP !!! An absesed tooth can kill you.

A dentist will see you much sooner if you express upon him the ergency
of your situation.

North

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Apr 4, 2004, 6:39:33 PM4/4/04
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On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 22:21:32 GMT, nob...@nowheres.com (Perry Noid)
said:

I went through just what the rifleman is going through. My dentist
tried to blow me off for a couple of days, I told him that I was in a
great deal of pain and that I was going to call around, he then told
me to come right in :-)

Ronny 1

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Apr 4, 2004, 7:23:58 PM4/4/04
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Group: misc.survivalism Date: Sun, Apr 4, 2004, 6:42pm (CDT+6) From:
st...@nospamdaily3747.btnet.com (The Rifleman)

Ronny:
No suggestion for pulling it out unless it is so loose it is just about
to fall out anyway and will come out simply by moving it back and forth
a little. But I strongly suggest you call your dentist first thing in
the morning and tell him or her that you are on your way in to the
office.

I take it your dentist hasn't seen your tooth and abcess,so the first
thing they need to do is get you started on antibiotics. A prescription
for that and one for pain pills.

I don't know if dentists will pull a tooth if it's badly abcessed or if
they wait until the infection goes down? But either way you need to see
your dentist tomorrow. If they do pull them while abcessed,then that
needs doing tomorrow. And if the dentist doesn't want to and or says he
can't fit you in,then you might want to mention had they rather see you
or your lawyer? :-)

If all else fails go to a doctor at your county clinic or the nearest
hospital emergency room. You gotta do something,to at the very least,get
started on antibiotics for the infection.

Love,

Ronny

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Jon Danniken

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Apr 5, 2004, 1:51:13 AM4/5/04
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"North" wrote:
> First begin a 10 day course of antibiotics.
> Goto town and buy some cocaine....

And after you get booked, inform the sheriff that you have a medical emergency, at which time he will arrange to
have the procedure taken care of at the infirmary. :)

Jon

Ronny 1

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Apr 5, 2004, 2:43:08 AM4/5/04
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Group: misc.survivalism Date: Sun, Apr 4, 2004, 10:51pm (CDT-2) From:
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Ronny:
Well,that way would be getting it done! LoL

Canuck In Denver

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Apr 5, 2004, 6:11:30 AM4/5/04
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As strange as it may sound, use a tea bag. I had a molar that needed to
come out and couldn't get into the dentist until the start of the week,
late Friday night is a bad time to have the pain hit :(

After trying a good single malt scotch mouthwash to no avail, a few heavy
duty pain killers (1000mg naproxin, etc) a friend suggested putting a tea
bag as close to the tooth as possible. I was real surprised and damn
happy that the tea bag worked within 10-20 minutes. I wet it first, stuck
it in and made sure that my head was at an angle so that the saliva that
quickly built up pooled around the tooth. Kept the pain away for a few
hours. I guess it has something to do with the tanic acid in tea.

Take the tea bag out a few minutes after the pain is gone.

I had a tooth ache once that only seemed to go away when I held my head
in one position... on my arms on my desk, like a kid sleeping in class.
That and LOTS of ice cold water worked.

Willow inner bark, I've always been told white willow preferably, is
aspirin. Much easier to find aspirin in the store ;-)


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Courts. Not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who
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kbau...@tampabay.rr.com

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Apr 5, 2004, 2:23:47 PM4/5/04
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As strange as it may sound, use a tea bag. I had a molar that needed to
> come out and couldn't get into the dentist until the start of the week,
> late Friday night is a bad time to have the pain hit :(
A wet tea bag is perfect for bleeding in the mouth. There is tannic acid in
the leaves which help the bleeding to stop. It is great when kids bit their
tongue or if you have a tooth pulled and it starts bleeding again.
If you decide to pull the thing out, which I don't recommend, have some
ready for the blood. Are you inaccessible to the dentist or is it that hard
to get in? I have sympathy, I have been trying to get a dentist, they
wouldn't treat me at all last year when I was pregnant, and now, it is a 2
month wait. I sometimes wonder if not having insurance would make life
easier....just pay the bill and go on with life. Of the problem is they
charge top dollar and discount for insurance companies, not something they
do for the uninsured.

Kathy


Neil

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Apr 5, 2004, 3:24:17 PM4/5/04
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On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 18:42:12 +0100, "The Rifleman"
<st...@nospamdaily3747.btnet.com> wrote:

> I,ve got an abcess the size of a sodding golf ball round my last upper right molar where a filling
>has gone spectacularly wrong, and its going to be days before I can get to
>see my dentist,

Steve,

You are UK based if you have an abcess then your local accident and
emergency will see you and may well give you antibiotics. Phone any
dentist and tell them you are in severe pain and they will see you. If
you are stuck for money and need an NHS dentist then NHS Direct can
offer advice. If your are near a dental school try them they offer
free treatment from ( very carefully) supervised students!

Don't pull the thing your self you could end up with a real problem.
For a pain killer use paracetamol or ibuprofen ( if you can tolerate
it). You can take both together they do not interact and are not
related.

N

Rex Tincher

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Apr 5, 2004, 4:34:27 PM4/5/04
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On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 18:23:47 GMT, <kbau...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

<snip>


> I have sympathy, I have been trying to get a dentist, they
>wouldn't treat me at all last year when I was pregnant, and now, it is a 2
>month wait.

<snip>

Try another dentist. Dentists around here (Southwestern Ohio)
schedule routine exams about a month in advance and several will treat
emergencies the same day.

--
Emergency preparedness and survival information:
http://www.tincher.to/

Sue

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Apr 5, 2004, 8:44:47 PM4/5/04
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On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 18:23:47 GMT, <kbau...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

>
> As strange as it may sound, use a tea bag. I had a molar that needed to
>> come out and couldn't get into the dentist until the start of the week,
>> late Friday night is a bad time to have the pain hit :(
>A wet tea bag is perfect for bleeding in the mouth. There is tannic acid in
>the leaves which help the bleeding to stop.

When I had a couple of wisdom teeth pulled out I was advised to bite
down on tea bags. I was still bleeding several hours later so called
the dentist. I was told to bite harder which I did. The tea bags
both broke. Yuk. But, it worked.
Sue


>

Mike

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Apr 5, 2004, 9:00:48 PM4/5/04
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If a tooth is well and truely absesed and infected no amount of bark
or natural fairy dust crap will do anything.

Eventualy that tooth will come out by your own hand or someone elses.

The pain will cause you to do crazy stuff when need be.

Only heavy duty narcotic pain relievers will touch this pain.

The Tom Hanks scene in castaway is about as real as it gets.

It wasn't that long ago self extraction was widely done.

Mike

kbau...@tampabay.rr.com

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Apr 6, 2004, 8:00:23 AM4/6/04
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>
> Try another dentist. Dentists around here (Southwestern Ohio)
> schedule routine exams about a month in advance and several will treat
> emergencies the same day.
>
> --
> Emergency preparedness and survival information:
> http://www.tincher.to/
>

I tried every one in town, same story. Here in Florida lawyers rule with
fear.I admit to being stubborn, I could have gotten a consent from my doctor
and might have gotten in, but dentists have plenty of training to not needed
this. I never had this problem in any other state we lived in. One
receptionist told me it was the law....I asked her for the statute and she
couldn't provide it...the dentist stuck his head in and said it was office
policy.
Kathy


Stormin Mormon

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Apr 6, 2004, 2:11:59 PM4/6/04
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According to my medical books, paracetamol (what we call "acetaminophen" in
the US) and ibuprophen do increase each others pain control ability.

However, they also increase each other's liver damage ability. (My book
disagrees with Neil.) But when the tooth is killing you, who cares about
your liver in several years?

antibiotics are also a very good idea. That was my first thought, others had
suggested that before I read your question.

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Ian Stirling

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Apr 6, 2004, 2:33:58 PM4/6/04
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Stormin Mormon <cayoung61-#spamblock*-@hotmail.com> wrote:
> According to my medical books, paracetamol (what we call "acetaminophen" in
> the US) and ibuprophen do increase each others pain control ability.
>
> However, they also increase each other's liver damage ability. (My book
> disagrees with Neil.) But when the tooth is killing you, who cares about
> your liver in several years?

Be extremely careful.
If you screw up, you may find yourself dying painfully in hospital in
around a week from liver failure.
On the plus side, I believe it's so painfull you won't even notice the
toothache.

Neil

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Apr 6, 2004, 4:22:44 PM4/6/04
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On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 14:11:59 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
<cayoung61-#spamblock*-@hotmail.com> wrote:

>However, they also increase each other's liver damage ability. (My book
>disagrees with Neil.) But when the tooth is killing you, who cares about
>your liver in several years?


At normal doses in a normal individual there is no problem, If you
have dodgy liver function you can have a problem.

I have re checked the BNF ( British National Formulary) March 2004
edition ( it is republished every 6 months) they list no interaction
between paracetamol and NSAIDS ( ibuprofen family) in normal usage ie
at the doses and durations listed on the packet.

If you want a drug reference book BNF is hard to beat. For UK docs and
pharmacists it is the standard desktop reference.


The Rifleman

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Apr 7, 2004, 6:04:49 AM4/7/04
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> I,m alternating between Brufen, Paracetamol and Co proxamol, though I have
finally found a dentist who will pull it this AM


Neil

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Apr 7, 2004, 3:59:59 PM4/7/04
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On Wed, 7 Apr 2004 11:04:49 +0100, "The Rifleman"
<st...@nospamdaily3747.btnet.com> wrote:

>
>>
>> I,m alternating between Brufen, Paracetamol and Co proxamol, though I have
>finally found a dentist who will pull it this AM
>
>


Steve be REALLY careful with that mix. Coproxamol contains
paracetamol. Usually one tab coproxamol equals one tab paracetamol
check the boxes.Max dose is a total of 4 grammes paracetamol in any 24
hour period. Coproxamol contains dextropropoxyphene which is a very
weak opiate ( weaker than codeine)

N

Bodie

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Apr 11, 2004, 2:17:16 AM4/11/04
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Again having missed the opening statements of this tread, I can only
assume as to the content.
however, it seems to center around dental / medical issues.
If the cavity is open/accessible, then clove oil will stop any/all
pain AND disinfect the gum area.
As for extraction, you should avoid that at all costs, except as a
last resort.
Cheers.


Bodie..

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