The PC vs Mac ads return - now from the PC’s perspective!
February 5th, 2007We’ve all seen the PC vs Mac ads by Apple, there are plenty of them. But now it’s time for the PC to counterattack, with the help of director Laurie McGuinness, who created four small hilarious clips, with the same character personalities (the PC being older, “boring”, and the Mac being younger and cooler), but this time the Mac doesn’t get the spotlight. What I liked about the clips is that they’re not made in order to harm the Mac, and they don’t deny the qualities portraied in the Mac ads, but they observe the PC’s own qualities, without denying the Mac’s. So, without more description, here are the clips:
At work
Money
The girl
Music
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Comments
Pretty God Damn Funny. Although I didn’t like all the jabs at video editors.
Embarrassing. :-/
Ha, funny, but nothing legit. PC didn’t make any point why it was better, Spreadsheets? Please, my mac does that fine.
Well, its funny, have to give that. Still, Macs are better. And yea, there is no real point about why take PC… Because rich booring people use them? HA!
@Samuel: What do you mean ‘no real point to take a pc’? PC’s do all the profitable stuff for businesses, while Macs makes movies about their Ketchup collection
Ha ha ha ! !
It’s about time there was some near truth to counter all of those funny commercials.
I use both Mac & XP, so I see the humor in both (but seriously, I’ve learned that whatever you want to get done, you just do in XP→ less hassle in the long run).
The best was the last one about the music, for the Europeans; keep up the good fight (against oppressive DRM).
the point that everyone seems to overlook in the whole mac v pc debate is that they are essentially one and the same aside from the operating system now. mac was better in the 80s/early 90s for sure but the edge they had was lost. i will admit that their machines are quite aesthetically pleasing and they impress idiots like nobodies business but it’s really not worth the premium price for what it is. this is coming from a guy at work with a pc in front of him and a G5 to the right of him. i use both and in the end, they’re both about par for the course. they both SUCK ASS really. why cause both apple and microsuck have similar business strategies to lock you into their products. i will say that the CS2 suite crashes like a bitch in OSX. oh and the mac fanboys scare me. it’s like a creepy cult worshipping steve jobs.
Hold on, these videos don’t make any sense, you pretty much wasted your time making them.
Where is the connection with the original commercials?
Oh yeah, PC users are plain and boring!
Oh man, hillarious.
I like Mac but cannot stand Mac users (you know the type), and the original Mac vs PC ads played to that audience’s attitude. Being a “PC Guy” these parodies failed to make me feel proud to use my machines the way my Mac friends feel proud about their machines. I know why i use a PC, and i’m sure everyone else who uses one knows as well. These do a better job of making me want to use a Mac.
Good luck finding cracked software for mac. That’s all I have to say about that.
“Joe Philipson:
Ha, funny, but nothing legit. PC didn’t make any point why it was better, Spreadsheets? Please, my mac does that fine.
”
Well said. :)
This is a really funny series!
I love my Mac so much because it always works. It’s a quality product. It also runs Windows!
LOL thats all i have to say. LOL
Gnat127:
Hmmm, serial box anyone? Or hmmm maybe demonoid?
lol-ing!
Switched to a Mac because I was tired of crash delays.
After two solid years of using Excel, Word, and Adobe CS on a Mac, with no virus issues or fatal error screens - I’ll stay with Mac - and keep my pc for a boat anchor.
haha, this is sooooo true!!!
i have both macs and pcs at my house
(2 mac and 3 pcs to be exact)
and yeah, if you want to get some stuff done, do it on the PC!! mac is just too much eye candy for work, hehe.
lol hmm what macs cant do—>gaming!
plus to upgrade a mac you are stuck paying high premiums…i can build a faster pc then all macs on the market for $500…oh…how much was that mac….$2000 wow talk about getting burned…do you also buy the new ipod every year when it comes out because you want to be cool, have fun paying the extra $200 instead of just getting a regular mp3 player…but its ok, you have an ipod you are cool…………………………………………………………NOT
I feel much better about my PC now.
“I love my Mac so much because it always works. It’s a quality product. It also runs Windows!”
-bigDooky
I’m glad you enjoy having to use two operating systems to do what you need to do. My pc works all the time and I only spent $600 dollars to build an amazing machine that never has a prob.
“Switched to a Mac because I was tired of crash delays.
After two solid years of using Excel, Word, and Adobe CS on a Mac, with no virus issues or fatal error screens - I’ll stay with Mac - and keep my pc for a boat anchor.”
-unsub
So I’m assuming your an idiot. My mom gets viruses on her PC. If you think you know a little about how to use the internet or protect your pc you will never get viruses. Mac just equals idiot proff.
Eat a di*k. PCs f*cking blow.
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This Mac v PC is just silly, yes the videos are funny but what’s the point in arguing what’s better? My PC does what I want it to do, it doesn’t crash, and it cost much less than I would spend on a Mac, which is why I bought it, it might not look pretty but that doesn’t matter to me.
Funny, but not accurate. Except the iTMS part.
-Macs can run accounting software. Duh. The popular small business apps are available (Quicken, QuickBooks, etc.) and heavy duty stuff runs fine, as long as it’s not dependent on a MS server environment. OS X is a *NIX, after all. And the dominance of Windows in the corporate world has more to do with market share based on choices and events in the past than any objective evaluation of the current state of the art and each company’s products.
I’m not a zealot here. I think we’re all moving to a more platform agnostic world, which is a good thing–and something both Jobs and Gates don’t seem to get.
-The girl thing–I don’t get it. Macs are relatively *more* prevalent among young women than young men, in my experience. And, if the idea is that she’s going for maturity/money–well, then she won’t be dating Mr. PC, either. She’ll be dating that other guy, Mr. Convertible, whose computer knowledge is limited to “reading email on yahoo’s internet” and “clicking onto ESPN.”
Mac blows. I run PC for gaming, and that’s about it. Linux and FreeBSD are where it’s at.
check out some more spoofs
http://tv.truenuff.com/mac/
This is a play on stereotypes JUST LIKE THE MAC COMMERICALS. What is better, PC or Mac? Well that depends on personal preference more than anything. For example, maybe Macs dont crash as often as PCs, but Macs get fucking laggy. I was recentlely using a MAC with 2 Gigs of ram that froze after opening 3 windows. Thats BS, and it would never happen with my PC…aw screw it, PCs are better!
Ok, there is no reasn to buy a mac anymore just go download the osx install for an x86 partition and use osx on your pc if you want to feel cool.I even installed it on an old crap machine and it runs great. Macs do run good untill a pice of hardware breaks then good luck repairing it your self, you have to send it in, and by this i mean you cant buy a mac motherboard or other internal parts even if you wanted to..oops i mean “logic board”.
These were good. The original Apple ads were stupid. “What? PC’s can only print pie charts in black and white?” Where did they come up with that? The commercials are stupid, like so many Mac users, so desperate to appear cool.
One of my hobbies used to be lurking on on Mac forums and reading all the complaints about Mac problems that were identical to the things they claim only PCs have.
The point is Mac’s cost way up the ass for it and the only reason they don’t have viruses is that very few people in the world use them compared to PCs, so virus programmers haven’t cared about making one for the Mac, but I’m sure that is coming soon. So you guys can laugh now at PC users and their viruses (even though with todays technology those viruses are easy to stop) and the fact that were not a ’sexy looking machine’, but the point is that PC users greatly outnumber Mac users, PC costs a lot less than Mac and are a lot more effective, all the movie shit you do on Mac one can do on PC, and well people can play games on PC and upgrade it easier than Mac.
“….. are you high???”
LOL, classic.
These are stupid, most don’t make any sense. And by the way, girls like Macs better than PCs.
errorplane wrote (while calling a MAC user an “idiot”):
“Mac just equals idiot proff.”
Should have proff read that one, genius.
Brilliant.
Most people who switch to macs switch to it due to an ignorance in their usage of computers in general. It’s fairly annoying.
Mac OS makes Windows look like a joke. I don’t care that macs look cool, etc. It’s whats on the inside that counts.
And Vista…read the reviews…its not looking so hot.
I agree with DreaMasteR, If you want to run OSX just install it on your PC or run it on a vmware image. if you buy a mac your just wasting money and if you have that kind of money give me some LOL.
Nutso! Nutso! Stick your finger up your Buttso! Buttso!
it’s funny girls prefer macs because i think a lot of guys who use macs don’t even know that females exist.
That really wasn’t funny. The only one I slightly smirked at was the last one. The original ones, while pointing fun at PC’s were still funnier.
I think Bill Gates bailed out apple when they were about to go bankrupt because he would have had no more ideas to rip off.
I guess it may have back fired with Vista though, seeing as it runs better on a mac.
Dunno, im middle of the road on this one
My boss is at the Apple store trying to get his new Mac laptop to work. They can’t figure out what’s wrong. Quality product.
I use a Mac at work and a PC at home. The machines are virtually identical in their reliability. I’ve had plenty of OSX lock-ups and crashes, despite what the Mac cult would like you to believe. And yeah, no viruses, but if Mac ever gets more than 5% of the market share, that will change. Bragging about having no viruses on your Mac is a little like a person on a desert island bragging about the lack of door-to-door salesmen. They are just computers. Get over yourselves.
The biggest difference is that I can buy pretty much whatever software I want for my PC.
Did not think they were all that funny. I think what they really show is PC’s ability to copy apple once again.
macs are still better.
You people are completely missing the point.
The point of these videos is NOT to argue that PC is better.
It’s just pointing out how ridiculously stupid apple’s strategy is to use this trendy doofus as a means of raking in impressionable idiots like yourselves.
buddynuts.
i still win. cuz i have a mac. and they’re awesome.
hamham. my comp beats yours.
kay peace!
Ironic, I can do all the video/audio related things on my pc……for half the price…oh yeah, and I can upgrade any and all hardware whenever I’d like. Did I mention the mounds and mounds of software??
These fake ads are about as stupid as the Mac ads(maybe thats the point). The thing i hate about the Mac ads is that they insinuate that to anything creative in the digital world, you need a Mac. they’re trying to create this mentality that PC’s are boring machines with boring owners who push numbers all day long.
I’ve been making money as graphic artist and 3d animator for the last 12 years, and about 75% of the other artists I know use PC’s also. The same creative arts and music software that is available for Mac is also available for PC, except maybe “garageBand” — big deal. BTW, if you wanted to do 3d animation a few years back, PC was the only way to go…MACs totally sucked in that area.
Don’t believe the lies of Apple when they spread their misinformation about PC’s who’s main OS is dominated by Microsoft, who by BTW bailed Apple out back in 1997 when they were about to go tits up. If it weren’t for the ipod, Apple wouldn’t be as powerful as it is today, which is still nowhere near as dominant as PC’s are. Suck it.
The games, why does nobody mention the games?
Mac: Hey PC what are you doing?
PC: Aw well I’m just playing Battlefield 2142, and later I’m going to play some Civ IV to relax from the battle high.
Mac: Wow, I wish I could play those when they come out instead of having to wait a year and that’s if they’re even made for me at all.
PC: Hmmm, sucks to be you I guess.
Mac: Yeah…
And I always thought of Macs as the boring ones which you get specifically just for word processing.
PC>MAC
Just as stupid and boring as the Apple ads. If your so hard up for an OS you’ve got major issues.
I think the people saying that girls prefer Macs are missing the point of that ad, which actually doesn’t surprise me one bit.
The old guy who uses PCs is still able to bag young hot blond skigirls because he is a rich businessman. The Mac guy is too busy in his mother’s basement making laser cat movies to have a girlfriend. All 5% of them.
Copied who? Anyone who knows anything knows bill and the 2daves copied the old fools from xerox.
And its not saying girls like pc or mac better, its saying they would rather date someone with a life, not a mac cultist geek who would rather hangout with a fellow geek.
As for better?
Lets see (if I remember correctly the timeline of the cultists opines)…
Macs are better (but lets use pcs ide)
Macs are better (but lets use pcs memory)
Macs are better (but lets use pcs cpu)
Macs are better (but lets use freebsd os)
So now you have some glitzy pc running freebsd with some pretty mac pics (gui) and the same “over”price tag?
Sounds a lot like “new” coke, if it is/was better why evolve into what a pc always was?
ha ha! F*CK YOU MAC.
funny…
does it really matter?
Good spoofs, though a little insubstantial. And (sorry to say), I agree with many other of the posters… I work with both PCs and Macs, and the PCs have it. Macs definitely have their up points, but they simply can’t out measure PCs right now. Maybe next go around…
Those were really more about the people who use macs and pcs respectively. The only clever one was the music one.
waiting for the day when Macs start getting hit by virus, we’ll see who’s being a fanboy then.
I have a mac right now, a white macbook. I have paid 1100 euros for this. I hate OS X, it seems to be designed for kids! Mac NOT always works; ok it’s cool, but what’s the matter? Sometimes my OS X crashes and I don’t know what to do, there are no ctrl+alt+canc! I have to reebot every time it happens. If you are computers addicted (like me) don’t buy a mac. I have installed Linux Debian on my macbook and it runs very well but next time I’ll buy a REAL notebook, less cool, less tiny but more efficient. To use macs and OS X for me is like trying to dance with both legs banded together. Sorry for my english but I hope you get it.
macs are pretty but theyre for people who dont know how to use a computer.
And, by the way, i’m gonna say something TRUE: if you want to have fun, discover, learn how computers work, coding in any language, developing, “hacking” in the true meaning then Linux > Windows > Mac .
If you want play videogames buy an Xbox 360 or a Playstation 3.
If you buy a Wii you’re more than 40 years old.
The gap between mac and pc has closed drastically. Creative projects can be done on PC or Mac and Office is available on both. Macs have less security threats. This is becuase no one finds the need to attack the 3% of the population that uses macs. There are security flaws in macs but theres no one to exploit them like with PCs. Who is going to get on the news for attacking 3% of the computing population? Also, I have Vista on my machine (P4, 1 GB of ram) and I have no issues running Vista Ultimate, even on a slightly older computer.
Hahaha! You can clearly tell these were made from a PC guy’s perspective, cause they’re not FUNNY. I didn’t even smirk when watching these. They didn’t bring up any points at all about the benefits of a PC! All I’ve taken from this is that, Macs somehow show up late for meetings and are high. Oh, and for some reason the fat, balding guy (obviously PC?) gets the hot chicks. Because that has to do with ANYTHING. If you want to see a REAL ad, check out the new security ad from apple.com, oh, and for those using Vista, make sure to click ALLOW.
macs are designed for arbiters of taste and style - and for those who don’t want to spend all day setting up a wireless network. macs are truly plug-and-play and you gotta love ‘em for that. they also have lots of cool built-in toys (like iphoto, imovie and Windows).
but for pc’s, i have just two words: “right click”.
I use both a pc and a mac, but prefer the pc more since you can easily upgrade it and like ppl said, they have a huge selection of games when compared to the mac.
Good luck trying to play games like Sam and Max, Battlefield earth, Halo, and such on a Mac.
If you think about it, why was the mac commericals made in the first place? I am sure as hell it isn’t created just to boost about how awsome Mac is even though the pc can do the same thing if someone takes the time to install the program.
It is made because they want MORE CONSUMERS! THINK ABOUT IT!! As someone said, that black and white piechart thing is stupid since the PC can do the same stuff as the Mac, but can also play games, something that is limited on a mac.
I don’t see pc companies like Dell making ads to bash macs around just to get ppl’s money. The reason is because more ppl use Pcs than Macs. Why waste money on licensing fees if the major of ppl are buying pcs?
I go to Uc Davis where a lot of 20 something year olds go to, and you know what, they have more pcs than macs at the labs and the for the few macs, ppl hardly use them.
Go outside and venture in the cybercafes and ask ppl there what they prefer to use.
I too, can’t wait till somebody makes a mac virus and screw all you purist over!
Sad.
Here’s a new concept for one of these awesome pro PC ads.
PC: “Hey Mac - have you seen my fancy new Vista operating system? It only took 5 years to make and for a few thousand dollers of hardware upgrades and several hours of frustration some PC users can get it to work - and they LOVE IT!”
Mac: “Lick my balls”
There, now that’s funny. At least as funny as the crap I just watched.
that doesn’t make any sense. pc’s and mac’s do the same things. but mac is just that simple, you can do all you want to. and about the games… sry guys, thats old. install windows on your mac, easy working.
and about programming and stuff like that, you can do it as well on a mac. you can change your osx that it seems you’ve got windows. BUT WHO SHOULD DO THAT? why change a system so that it looks like another while it works simplier and better…
i don’t get it. you just can’t justify about people because of their system on their machine! both work, both work very nice, it just depends on the person who sits behind!
(sry for my bad english)
those are some really really really retarded videos .. none of them conveyed a good point :/
For all you programmers out there:
if (person likes to play games alot) then{
Must buy PC since Macs suck for gaming
};
really pretty simple.
Well first off, the spreadsheet comment is just stupid, considering Excel, PC’s supposed wondertool, is sold for both PC and Mac. I also find it hard to sell me on the “PCs are but business and Macs are for eye candy” gig when Microsoft just spent billions on making their OS look like, hmmm, I won’t outright say like a Mac, I’ll just say “all shiny and jewel-like.” All the potheads I’ve known were all PC heads. And what’s with the “Logan’s Run” wardrobe? And why isn’t there a 60 year old guy with a sombrero walking behind them muttering obscenities about how the Amiga did colors, multimedia and multitasking first?
And another thing, it’s 2007, WHERE’S MY @(*^$&**ing HOVERCAR?!?
What’s a Mac?
he he he, these are funny ads although the stain remains even when laughed at: apple users are cool and trendy while pc users are boring and old fashioned. This axiom has been repeated so much by apple users that no one even bothers to question why and if it is true anymore. PCs have been doing the same stuff since well over 10 years at a fraction of the price a mac costs. and they are a helluva cheaper to service. and they upgrade. and you can customise them to your needs. and they come in nice boxes too now.
Macs are not the “Ferraris” of the computer world because they are made of the same parts pcs are made (used to be all SCSI back then), are prone to the same failures / shortcomings PCs are but for a smart looking box + a playful interface people think they made a good choice for a TOOL.
It should be apparent to everyone by now that everything apple forks out shouldn’t have mac users creaming in their pants. But it’s a dogma, and as such it is “believe and do not question”.
These could have been so much better. I’m writing this comment because it will make me feel like the 90 seconds I wasted watching those videos will now be worth while.
Just wait until XAML and online applications takeoff. Your will get more games, more business GUI applications such as powerful 2D/3D real-time modeling and simulations. The traditional GUI will be replaced by online GUI applications.
It may take time for the killer online applications are released, but it will be too late by the time they know that they also need to support the killer online applications or multiplayer online-games.
ok, the point of these videos was not to say how much better the PC’s are, it was to show the MAC fan boys how stupid the pro MAC videos are. At no point do these videos realy say why PCs are better but at no point do the MAC videos say why MACs are better. But the MAC fan boys think the MACS b+w pie chart video is funny as hell. But when its from the other point of view, all of a sudden the videos are stuipd and not at all funny.
O yea good point, where the frack is my hover car?!!
Ok after reading all these comments, I find that people don’t just watch these and laugh at it like it was meant to do. Now i may have chuckled at a few…but I, being a primarily Mac user (but have Vista on another computer), don’t really find the Mac ads funny.
Heres the thing about Macs, they are simple. Period. Sure Windows can do everything a Mac does. But years of using Windows and using Mac for three years, I find Mac easier to use, all it takes is a drag and place, no copy and paste or open files or whatever, just drag and place. Now all you hardcore PC users are probably screaming at me cause you think I say that because I must not know how to work Windows properly, but aside from actually hacking another computer, I know almost all the ins and outs of Windows.
Oh and the expensive price for Macs is most likely to supply and demand, since the majority of the world I believe uses Windows, it’s cheaper to make a Windows based computer.
Gaming….ok well while their may not be a HUGE selection of games, but I do not find that Macs are really meant to be a gamer computer. I have World of Warcraft on my Mac and thats enough for me. No lags, no crashing and at the same time have 3 other programs running. By the way I have a great and beautiful girlfriend, probably beacuse WoW and computers in general do not control my life.
Bottom line PC or Mac, it’s up to the user. That’s it. So let’s keep the comments about the ads for now on instead of which is actually better.
Awesomeness!!! An awesome point…
The business world doesn’t use Macs!!!
Hey gamer,
(if gamer? (bootcamp windows) dontbother)
You can write cleaner fake code that that. :p
Maybe these ads don’t say a lot about PCs, but the Apple ads say nothing about Macs either. It’s better if you just ignore the ‘content’ and enjoy the ‘form’. The only thing I’ve learned from these ads is that Macs are a lot cuter than PCs.
Macs are just over-priced Unix machines on decent hardware. If you like Macs so much, get LINUX DAMNIT! It’s free, and BETTER! Well, if you like using a computer that is, if you just like looking at the “interface” (which Apple screwed up!), buy a picture.
Look we have all 20 mac users in the same chat lol …They both do the exact same thing people…get over..ya want to fork out the bucks for something “brand name” do it. Ill have the exact same and batter and pay less…PCs are cheep !!
And y’know “PC” doesn’t mean Windows anyway, so I’ve always wondered who Mac was involvivng in the first place… On the PC side, if they mean Windows, they need to represent him as a 400-pound man, since the requirements to run Vista are so steep (it’s only an operating system, there’s no reason ANY of them should require a gigabyte, look at MenuetOS, that fits on a single floppy disk so tell me what OS X and Vista are doing with that other 998 megs… remember when people actually knew how to program?) 2gigs of RAM? What is it, 15gigs hard drive space? 128megs of video card beefiness?
I’m running Mac’s most recent OS on a 400MHz iMac from 7 years ago. It cost me $25 for the computer and $40 for the OS. Upgrading really hasn’t been much of an issue, and when I need to, a Mac mini goes for $600, far shy of the $2000 I’ve seen quoted here.
“PC” should also be seen as the OS everyone knows, with people walking by and shaking his hand, maybe even walk up to Mac and say “Hello, I heard so much about you and was going to talk to you, but I’m already friends with PC, so..”
Fat guy that everyone knows, is George Wendt available? (Played Norm on Cheers.)
How about showing Mac as the guy that does everything, and is loudly trying to prove this (juggling, dancing, building a scale model of the Eiffel Tower out of floppy disks,) while people walk by him waving to “PC” all along, with the commercial ending on Mac indignantly saying to a user “No, I’m not available for Windows!”
PLEASE READ THIS AND REMEMBER IT….
OSX can be run on a pc with the new x86 hack build and windows can be run on a MAC, so the OS is not the issue here its the hardware and sorry to say it but PC hardware kicks MAC hardwares butt if for no other reason then you can buy your own replacment parts for a PC.
“I was up all night building a website for my cat”, Ouch! PC strikes back, hilarious!
MAC? They aren’t even Apples anymore. They run Intel PC processors on PC motherboards with PC graphics cards, etc.
Heck, it’s not even apple’s own OS, they gave that up and went Linux. Hello! OpenSource but Apple charges for it!
There WAS a time when Mac’s did things PC’s couldn’t (sometimes better). But that was years ago. Yes they do look better, but PCs are more effective in the real world.
Today, there are many things a PC can do that a Mac can’t (mostly because of Apple’s close-minded mentality and extreme licensing policies).
Seriously, Mac’s are now just a PC with apple’s logo and a fancy Linux GUI.
It’s funny that Microsoft wasn’t allowed to release a PC, but Apple is allowed to prevent apple clones and wins lawsuits shutting them down.
Give apple another few years and they won’t make any computer hardware, just applications like MS.
Apple has good marketing. Good marketing and rounded corners. And a very loyal and snooty following. I’d be snooty too if I paid nearly three grand for a laptop.
Good vids.
Well said AppleSpud.
I’m a PC guy and i thought these sucked sadly :(
Macs are dumb Pc´s… go get a Dell XPS if you´re planning on spending $2000 on a computer. Don´t buy a Mac it´s just a toy.
I should know, I´m writing this because im on my stupid sissy iBook…
For all the idiots claiming macs are not good for playing games compared to the pc… why would you play games on a pc instead of an actual gaming system anyways? it doesn’t make a lot of sense… I’ve also had my mac for about a year without a single crash like you all claim… you might be talking about the old macs which crashed all the time.
Most of your pointless arguements just comes down to ignorance
Why haven’t they done this one?
MAC: Hi, I’m a Mac.
PC: I’m a PC. Hey, Mac, looks like you’ve crashed.
MAC: We don’t do that.
PC: Yes, you do. What’s that error code then?
MAC: I have no idea. “BONG”
PC: We’d better put you in your box and send you back to Apple then.
I’ve got a Mac and a PC, and sometimes it’s easy to find out what is wrong with and easily fix a Mac.
Well I agree that the cheapest laptop out now for Mac ($1099) is higher priced than What’s out there in the PC world, but three grand? It’s not that hard to find a comparable lappy with Windows on it for the same amount, if not higher than the $2799 price listed on apple.com for their high end… Sony’s Vaio, model VGN-AR390E is listed on Sony’s website for $3299… In fact, quite a few Sony laptops eke out a tag of $2499 or more. If you’re going to compare prices, at least compare Apple’s high end versus the Windows high end, and low-end for low end. And really, if you’re going for laptops, Apple is new to the Intel market, they don’t have a low end laptop yet. This isn’t to say you’ll be seeing $499 Maclappies any time soon, But you also won’t find your Mac Laptop obsolete when Microsoft decides to do another rewrite. It’s a trade off, and I really don’t feel that either system comes out a winner.
Really, I prefer my Ubuntu Linux-powered laptop, something nice about knowing if I need a program, I can pretty much find it without having to open my wallet. I also like the idea of not having to buy 2 gigs of RAM just to make my system run “ok.”
(Remembers someone saying once that the only think Microsoft could produce that wouldn’t suck is a vacuum…)
You mac fans need serious help. As of a few years ago, MACS AND PCs ARE THE SAME THING. You can run windows on your mac and OSX on your not-mac. Stop making up stupid reasons to be fanboy.
You can shell out your mad money for a prebuilt machine installed with OSX, or you can get a PC, install OSX on it yourself, and save a few hundred dollars for not buying into Steve Job’s eyesore of an advertising campaign.
Well computerbuilder, that’s only partly true, to run OSX on ‘not-mac’ you need a little bit of skill in running a hack or two, and I think we can all agree that the whole PC vs. Mac and Mac vs. PC arrangement only appeals to the non computer savvy, those folks who just found out the ‘cup holder’ is actually the CD tray. To them, OSX on “PC” isn’t even an option. I use six different OSes at last count, and if you want to count old school emulators, make it nine or so. I happen to prefer Mac. I like XP too, but I also think that Windows has actually stunted the growth of the industry, in the same way the auto industry quells new technology. Apple may be responsible for a little of that too, of course :)
Understand I used to be an Amiga user (remember Commodore?) And if there was one thing I got used to is being told how much my computer sucked by both IBM users and Mac users. Truth was a 7MHz Amiga could outperform a 66MHz IBM Compatible on many levels (cue the guy in the sombrero I mentioned earlier..) Guess the makes me sadder than even a Mac fanboy. But just you wait, someday I’ll get my hovercar and you’ll all pay.
haha, this is just as un-fair as the mac commercials, They had no backings either, just because you can’t be a total retard and use a PC doesn’t mean you can’t do anything on it.
all mac really has is a good video editor, and…lack of viruses.
I have a PC, and I have never made a spreadsheet…
Joey Bananas
its not hard to install OSX on a PC anymore just use partition magic to make a MAC partition and go download the latest install image from a torrent site, it was acctualy easier then installing XP because you dont need a key code beccause the OSX thinks that if you have the OS then you own a MAC and therefore Have a license to use it. I would incurage all MAC users to give it a try.
although yes if the MAC commercials acctualy made you go out and buy a MAC then you migt not want to try it because your probaly not the sharpest tool in the shed. not to say if you use a MAC you are, just if the commecials are the reason you have one.
I use PCs. In my opinion, Macs are good for a couple of specific things like multimedia. PCs can do them too, just not as well.
PCs are great/better for just about everything else. ;-) They each have their strengths, but I still like a PC better.
I love watching the mac vs pc commercials. these PC rebuttals here were a breath of new air, but not as sharp as the mac commercials.
In my opinion, future PC rebuttal commercials should include plugs about the variety of commercial (and free) software available on a PC compared to a Macintosh.
If vulnerabilities are in question, true there are more for the PC, but still some just as serious for the mac. The hackers go to where the popularity is. There would be just as many on the mac if everyone had a mac. If done properly, this could be portrayed as well to be understood by all.
Not to mention the variety of hardware (not pretty, overpriced hardware), which also means competition and lower prices.
And the popularity of PCs within the (quite large) gaming community (lan parties, competitions, just plain fun, etc). This is also yet untapped in the rebuttals.
Keep up the great ads, let the war commence for our entertainment! ;-)
MAC: Hey, PC! Whatcha doin’?
PC: Oh, hey. Well, I’m getting ready to head down to the software store to pick up some new apps, maybe a game or two. Hey, wanna come along?
MAC: Uh…well…
PC: Oh, that’s right. Hey, I think the store has a shelf for Apples.
MAC: Naw, I’ve got all those…
PC: Oh. Sorry. Well, have fun.
MAC: Yeah. Right.
These, as well as the commercials seen on TV aren’t much. Mac, after years of giving computers to schools with only marginal product loyalty as a result, is simply attempting a less costly adversiting tack. It may work, but probably not. Turns out Mac should have been manufacturing only tiny music players all along.
these are pretty funny…its about time im sick of the stupid mac commercials….macs are pieces of shit its the truth they do nothing profitable, and mac and apple are a huge rip-offs…nice work pc
If this is your benchmark for “hilarious,” you need a serious sense of humor adjustment. These ads aren’t funny, they’re lame. And right, the ads “observe the PC’s own qualities, without denying the Mac’s” - spreadsheets? Seriously?! That’s the best the PC has to offer? And they “don’t harm the Mac,” they only accuse Mac users of being drug fiends. Nice.
Pathetic.
Oh yeah Mac now does windows ?? I thought windows was evil?? Truth is Mac was so behind everyone else they had to support Windows, jump to PC hardware, they had to become more compatible with what everyone else is using or die the slow death. People who brag about their macs brag about what car they drive too, or what clothes they wear, they are designer people, infatuated with brand names. If Apple really wanted to save the world from Microsoft and Evil Bill they would release their OSX for PC and give the world a legitmate choice for an alternative OS, linux doesn’t count as its not user friendly enough yet.
I’ve just spent way too much time reading the previous 98 posts! You people are way funnier than any ads. I’ve been supporting computers since the days of CPM and IBMDOS. I even remember when the Mac first came out, of course is wasn’t called a Macintosh, it’s name was Lisa (after Job’s girlfriend). Even before Windows, the business world chose the IBM compatable over Apple. Maybe they should have chosen the Amiga! ;-}
These comments are quite interesting. I’m a Boomer so I have a wider perspective. I have worked in the Electronics field for 30 yrs. so I’ve worked with vacuum tubes,transisters and I.C.’s etc.all through the consumer electronics revolution.I have seen it so many times, in this world marketing wins every time. Gates beat Job’s right from day one because he understood this and Jobs did not. Gates knew that a tech. advantage is temp. but a market share advantage is the golden egg!
These ads truly point out the ridiculousness of the Mac ads we all see on TV, and I think that was the point.
When I get into the Mac v. PC debate, I have trouble defining exactly what is being debated. Today, the Mac is built on a PC architecture with a BSD based OS (OS X). For those who do not know, BSD is a Berkley Unix derivative which has no relationship with Linux other than the fact that Linux is loosely based on the Unix OS.
Linux embraces the Unix philosophy of developing small components which do one thing superbly, and stringing these components together to accomplish greater things. Sadly, Mac’s OS X has hidden this philosophy beneath layers of simplicity and conformity.
Originally, Apple’s Mac was built on a superior architecture to the PC.
In the simplest terms, the Mac placed the BIOS, and OS, etc. at the bottom of memory, then back-filled video space at the top of memory. All the RAM in between was used for programs.
The PC on the other hand originally supported only one Megabyte (1024 kilobytes) of RAM. The BIOS and OS went to the bottom of RAM, and all hardware drivers went into the top 384 KB, resulting in 640 KB of RAM for programs.
Apple developed the Mac with a ‘closed’ architecture, preventing third party innovation, or the development of ‘Mac clones’. This permitted Apple to maintain a tight control over what went into their computer, but limited the evolution of the Mac.
IBM originated the PC with an ‘open’ architecture intended to encourage third party innovation. This resulted in ‘PC clones’ and unlimited evolution.
Today, there is no Mac v. PC dichotomy, since the Mac is in reality a PC. The only remaining difference is the OS, so the real debate is not Mac V. PC, but Mac V. Windows V. Linux, etc.
Since the Mac OS is based on BSD, it may be superior to Windows if Apple has not abandoned the Unix philosophy in the development of their OS. Standard PC hardware may not be supported by OS X since Apple has no obligation to support hardware not licensed by them. The only real developmental philosophy I can discern from the Mac is an ‘all mine!’ attitude in Apples business model.
Microsoft was the original developer of the DOS operating system for the IBM PC. They developed Windows for the PC (Windows ran on top of DOS) and Windows NT (New Technology). They published selected Application Programming Interfaces so third party developers were able to produce software for DOS and Windows. I have heard the Microsoft developmental philosophy described as ‘Make everything part of the OS to gain better performance’.
The Linux OS was originally developed over the WEB by the Open Source Community with Linus Torvalds’s ‘Unix clone’ kernel after he published the source code on the Internet. Linux continues to be developed with the Unix philosophy described above, as a multi-user, multi-tasking OS. Because it is an Open Source OS, developed as a ’string’ of small components, each of which works superbly, it is the most ‘customizable’ OS available. You can even build your own custom kernel which will contain only the elements you select. This results in what may seem to be a nearly limitless variety of ‘flavors’, some targeted for the “geek freak”, some for the basic user, and some for specific purposes (including servers). In the end, they are all developed from the same Linux kernel source code and the same collection of Open Source Programs, so they are all still Linux.
In the end, the debate over which is best boils down to the question “What do you want?”. Each OS offers advantages as well as disadvantages. For me the answer is Linux because of its stability combined with its flex-ability. I see the Mac as a ‘Johny-come-lately’ since they adopted the BSD underpinnings of OS-X, and I see Windows as a seriously limited effort. I have not seen Vista yet, so my opinion could change, but I do not think this is likely.
LMAO Very funny! It doesn’t really give that much reason to use a PC, other than The Girl, but I laughed anyway.
unsub said:
Switched to a Mac because I was tired of crash delays.
After two solid years of using Excel, Word, and Adobe CS on a Mac, with no virus issues or fatal error screens - I’ll stay with Mac - and keep my pc for a boat anchor.
Peng replies:
That’s pretty much why I switched to Linux. No crashes, and while it’s not as good as MS Office OpenOffice.org works fine for me. And when I need to work on a spreadhseet I just fire up Wine and load Dreamweaver or Fireworks and rock on.
reason to use a PC:
- Linux, Vista, XP and a ton of OS choices
- Tons of cool software (freeware, shareware)
- Choice of Hardware
- Modding
- Gaming
- Sweet graphics (DirectX)
- Price
- Customization
- Compatibility
- Drivers
- oh the list just goes on (feel free to contribute)
reasons to use a Mac:
- Podcasts
- Being smug
- No viruses? My socks don´t have viruses, why would I pay $2000 for socks?
These are lame. But this is funny, Crash Different. http://jeremy.zawodny.com/media/bitch.mpg
The company that makes those “so easy a caveman could do it” ads should make some of these ads. Mac extremists have that same look of indignation that the caveman has.
“Looks like somebody got his floppy stuck.”
The Dude
Didn’t realize it had gotten so easy, last time I “Mac’ed my ride” It took some extra steps, I assumed nothing had changed in four months, my mistake. Looks like I’m taking another look at OSx86.
Hmmm… another case of the PC getting there late, and copying a concept.
IN MY WORDS
WELL WERE DO I BEGIN,
WELL I ONLY BEEN ON THE PC SEEN ‘XP’ 2 BE SPECIFIC FOR GOING ON 8 YEARS NOW AND IN THAT TIME IVE BECOME JUST SHORT OF A HACKER, WHAT I MEAN IS I CAN DIAGNOS AND FIX ANY PC I COME ACROSS AND I CAN BUILD PC’S FROM SCRATCH AND KNOW ALOT FROM SCSI,RAID.NATIVE COMMAND QUEIUNG, CHIP ARCHITECTURE LIKE THE DIFFERNCE BETWEEN HYPER THREADING AND DUAL CORE, TO SAY THE LEAST. AND I CURENTLY OWN 3 PC 2 SERVERS AND 3 LAPTOPS, ALL INTEL AND HP OR BUILT BY ME AND ALL RUN XP OR SERVER 2003.OH AND I ONLY RUN CUTTING EDGE HARDWARE LIKE THE RAPTOR OR 320 SCSI 10K &15K DRIVES IN MY MACHINES. ENUFF ABOUT ME “PC VS MAC” WELL WILL AGREE THE EYE CANDY OF MAC IS A LITTLE INTRIGING AND THERE OTHER POSITIVES THEY WORK, THERE SMALL/COMPACT, THE EASE OF INTERFACE SOME CLAIM,LESS CRASHING, BUT THATS WERE MOST OF THE MAC ENDS AT I CAN STATE THE OBVIOUS LIKE MAC LACK OF SOFTWARE AND GAMES, MAC NOW USING PC’S INTEL CHIPS, MAC RUNNING WINDOWS AND THERE APPS, VISTA COPIED MAC LOOK BUT MAC COULDN’T EVAN MAKE THERE OWN OPERATING SYSTEM, MACS ARE PRICEY, MACS ARN’T UPGRADABLE, WHO AND WERE DO YOU GET SERVICE FOR MACS, THESE ARE ALL DISPUTIBLE. MY OPION BOTH MICROSOFT AND APPLE PUT OUT THERE OPERATING SYSTEM THAT WORK. OSX , AND XP BOTH EXPERINCE LESS CRASHES THAN EARLIER VERSIONS, IF YOU DO GET A CRASH/BLUE SCREEN CHANCE ARE YOU HAVE SOME FAILING HARDWARE CAUSING IT AND YOU REALY CANT BLAME MICROSOFT OR OSX MAKERS OR OTHER OPERATING SYSTEM. NOW XP NOT REALY A FAN OF VISTA BUT LESS SEE 95% WORLD USE IT COMPATIBLE WITH 99% OF CAMERAS, SCANNERS, PRINTERS ,MP3 PLAYER, THE IPOD, TV TUNERS, FLAT MONITERS , HDTV. NOT TO MENTION ALL THE SOFTWARE AND FREEWARE. DUAL MONITOR SUPPORT UP 2 16 MONITORS, THE ONLINE MULTIPLAYA GAMES WITH OUT EXTRA GAME SYSTEM CONSOLE THAT ARE OUT DATED EVERY 2-3 YEARS, UPGRADABLILITY LIKE VIDEO CARDS 4 MONITORS OR THE TERABYTE OF SPACE I HAVE SO I CAN DOWNLOAD ALL THE FREE SOFTWARE I LIKE, SUCH AS ROXIO AND NERO WHICH IM SURE WILL BLOW MICROSOFT MOVE MAKER AS WELL AS IMAC MOVIE MAKER, TV TUNER SO I CAN RECORD TV, I CAN COPY DVDS AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ALL THANKS 2 MICROSOFT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE ALL OF THIS WORK ON XP FLAWLESSLY IF YOU HAVE HIGH END PARTS. NOT LOW END PARTS LIKE DELL USE SOMETIMES THAT CAN FAIL AFTER WHILE. MAKING PEOPLE BELIEVE WINDOWS IS THE PROBLEM WHEN ACTALLY SEAGATE OR MAXTOR OR WESTERNDIGITAL AND LEAST FAVORITE HITACHI. AND MANY RETAIL COMPANYS ARN’T TRUSTING MACS FROM A BUSINESS POINT OF VEIW A FEW LIKE BEST BUY AND CIRCUIT CITY BUT YOU DONT SEE DELL, OR HP, GATEWAY, AND THEM SELLING MACS. ALSO MAC USERS USALLY WHEN YOU ALL 2000 OF YOU 5% OF THE WORLD LOL CONNECT TO THE INTERNET CHANCE ARE YOU ARE CONNECTING TO A WINDOWS BASE SERVER, WERE’S IS MACS SERVER EDITION MAYBE IN THE YEAR 2050 LONG AFTER WE HAVE HOVERING CARS.OH YEA MAC HAS LESS VIRUSES WELL I CAN DOWNLOAD FREE SOFTWARE TO PROTECT ME AGAINST THOSE, IN MY TIME I NEVER CAUGHT A VIRUS BUT DO CLEANING FOR OTHERS THAT DONT KEEP UPDATED WITCH IS THE KEY TO BE VIRUS FREE. IN THE END THE BOTH WORK BOTH HAVE PLUS AND MINUSES AND DEPEND ON OPINION LIKE ATI VS NIVIDA INTEL VS AMD ATT&T VS VERIZON OR COMCAST FOREIN VS DOMESTIC WELL I KNOW WERE I STAND I CAN HAVE 3 PC FOR THE PRICE OF 1 MAC
MrDr Zack: “Mac blows. I run PC for gaming, and that’s about it. Linux and FreeBSD are where it’s at.”
What, you didn’t know Mac OS X is built on FreeBSD? The code is written by the same people, look:
http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/unix/
You really need to read-up on your slashdot and digg. Shame on you!!
HAHAHA! Love the ads! How so very true!
“Why don’t you share?”
“Okay, you can listen.. for a buck.”
LMAO!
God … people … its just a piece of hardware. Pc’s/Mac’s .. Potato… Potatooo … Go get a life everyone!
I’ve used them both and really .. I can’t see much of a difference.
For Mac addicts … PC’s can do the same things as the mac’s can. Get over it.
For PC owners. Yeah .. Girls love Macs, they look beautifull and they are used by creative teams. Does that make PC’s more or less creative? Off course not, so get over it.
You all need to get out more :)
If PCs are so amazing, then how come every single person I know who has used a Windows PC for years and years, and then switched to a Mac, has not wanted to go back to using Windows?
I’m talking about people who know what they’re doing when it comes to computers here, not morons. Everyone who has used my iBook has loved MacOS so much they’ve wanted to use it themselves.
I’ve also had it for nearly 3 years now and I’ve not had a single problem with it. Nothing at all. It’s only ever crashed twice and that was because I was seeing if I could make it crash!
My advise… save your money and buy a Mac and an iPhone in June!
Hmm.. I use a PC at home and a Mac at work. I have been a diehard Windows user for year, but will definitely buy a Mac for home next purchase. Seems to me that Windows is copying the Mac ads the way Visa is copying OSX?? ;)
All I’m saying is I can’t wait for Vista! Imagine an operating system with such advanced security measures, such powerful digital rights management, that it takes half or more of your CPU cycles! It’ll help us Linux folk out too! How cool will it be to spend more on hardware because they have to make it “Vista-compliant?!” I’ll feel safe knowing I’ve spent more in order to make sure I’m protected from myself and my want to pirate!
Remember its just a matter of time possibly a few years before we see the demise of Apple as we know it. Amiga WAS the computer of choice and its LONG gone. Bill knows how to market and he does it well. 10 Years ago Mac WAS video, audio, imaging and MS was WAY behind.
Now the gap is so blurred with the PC catching up and possibly excelling in Audio and Video.
In short Apples once monopoly is no more and no longer needed.
THAT IS FACT !
Y’know Amiga isn’t totally gone, go to www.amiga.com and see what I mean… Sure, it’s been in a coma for 10-15 years after hemorrhaging for about 5 years before that, but it’s not quite dead yet. My point about the whole thing is, Amiga was the best out there (and yes, I’ll admit Atari had promise and pretty colors too,) but they were pretty much crushed my Microsoft, who don’t even sell computers, only operating systems… H*ll, Amiga ran MicroSoft Basic (as did Commodore 64, and dozens of other computers out there at the time!) Just shows you that superior hardware doesn’t mean a thing, not compared to marketing.
My issue with Vista lately, however, is that Microsoft seems to be running into the same hubris-driven snag that IBM did when Bill Gates originally stole the show.
You’ve got to think MS thinks themselves nigh-invincible if they’re releasing a DRM (digital rights management) driven nightmare on the world. I don’t and never will like the thought of a company telling me what I can and cannot do with my computer.
I know I’m sounding like I’m on the soapbox here, but if I buy an OS, I want to own it, not ‘borrow’ it, and I DEFINITELY do not want an OS policing me and crippling my system because it thinks I’m doing something wrong. Worse still, if it decided suddenly that a piece of my hardware isn’t secure enough, it will deactivate it (Please correct me if you think I’m wrong on this, but this is what I’ve been reading since playing around with a Vista Beta copy.)
I think “I’ll let you listen to my music for a dollar” is a p*ss-poor retort (from the final ‘comeback commercial’) if Windows is just going to say “Ok I think you’re listening to something you shouldn’t, resolve this or bye-bye OS”
Windows Vista is about to shut down and lock you out of your computer for 23 hours a day, (A)ccept, or (T)ough &@*$^ for you
Thanks for doing this!
I used to subscribe to Apple’s advertising by e-mail just to learn about their developments, but I cancelled it after watching too many of their commercials maligning PCs (and told them, too). Like many of the other posts, I have used both platforms extensively and found them to be very similar in apps and ease of use except for navigation through the OS for problem-solving; I’ll take a PC any day!
You should correct the misspelling of “portrayed” in “… and they don’t deny the qualities portraied in the Mac ads …” in your introductory paragraph.
*Reinforces classic stereotypes, which was a large part of the strategy that made the original MAC ads appealing - whether those stereotypes were factually accurate or not.
* One ad in this satirical (?) series, ‘The Girl,’ especially reinforces the stereotype that women are genetically predisposed to select the more financially secure male as a potential partner. An accurate presumption - so perhaps that ad is social commentary, not satire…?
* Also note - even though satirical, the fact that the MAC OS reigns supreme in creative pursuits is not challenged but reiterated… Several times.
1. These aren’t funny; the Mac ads are. First rule of parody: You must be at least as clever as the subject of the parody.
2. They don’t make sense.
– “Work” I know way more burn-out, show up late, slacker PC users than Mac users. Probably because burnout slackers can’t afford Macs — oddly enough a point that is made by the “Money” sketch but it has it backwards.
– “Money” I work in the tech industry (gaming) and all of the executives at my company use Macs at home. If anything, the pro-PCrs should have gone after the higher Mac price tag instead of this confusing premise. Furthermore, almost everyone I know who has a Mac at home and isn’t a millionaire has used it to make money on the side doing freelance web design, video editing, graphic design or sound/music editing. Most of the people I know that have PCs just play games on them and surf myspace. The ones that do make “creative stuff” make just as many websites devoted to “ketchup” and other stupid crap as anyone else.
–”Girl” What? This just doesn’t make any sense at all. Yeah, cause I know so many computer geeks who have models throwing themselves at them.
I guess this is supposed to follow a throughline from the “Money” sketch that pretty girls go for guys that have more money? If so it plays on a faulty premise and implies that the only way PC users can get girls is to get rich. That’s kind of ugly and reinforces some really lame stereotypes. Do you really want to be “loved” for your money?
–”Music” this is the only one that makes any sense at all because it’s about the product and not the user. It’s still a little shaky but ok — if you want to share songs for three plays only for free instead of having to plug your friends mp3 player into your computer — fine, buy a zune.
And just as a final note: All Mac users are not “idiots”. That is a very mean way to tear down people who haven’t had the chance to catch up to the relatively small portion of the world who is extremely tech savvy because they’ve been out living lives — see the “Girl” ad and then reverse it.
Funny…but not really as good as the originals. It was just really random and didn’t really say how the PC was better then the Mac in reality
Sense of humor? Gotta be a unix PeeCee.
http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/7196/ggggggggggggggggggggggghd8.png
closest i could find, mac dosent seem much more expensive but i like my pc alot more. no particular reason they are all basically the same thing i just like xp and i really don’t like that lower bar in macs (people seeing whats in my minimized windows isnt my idea of fun)
Also to everyone who says if you want video games get a console, i cant play wow GB (xbox cs sucks) and theres no bf2 or anything like that. plus i have to pay money for those games, emulators ftw
People by PeeCee’s because they are cheap.
Gaming? Ha . . . kind of contradicts the whole bogus message of one of those ads—the one that implies PeeCee’s are for *serious* work.
Forget the fact that Mac’s run everything that PeeCee’s can run now.
Price? The cheapest PeeCee’s will always be cheaper than the least expensive Mac.
Everybody I know (I know hundreds) that runs Windoze hate their computing experience. Really. And they are so ignorant.
Like . . .”what? I didn’t know you could run Excel on a Mac!”
Seriously.
And the malware?
Like “well, I didn’t install that! where did that program come from?”
We are still waiting for the first virus to successfully break into OS X.
Bring it on . . .
Now, go back to your *games* while listening to your iPod. ;-p
BTW, When you are already cool, a slick MacBook is just icing on the cake
Don’t forget the only reason why PeeCee is cheaper is sheer volume, when you’re making 20 PCs for every Mac out there, it makes sense that you’d get a price break… Computers and OSes get punished for not being Windows. Like I’d said, hardware is going to have to be Vista-Compliant from now on, so if I run Ubuntu or Solaris, I’ll have to pay extra for functions made specifically for Windows. Functions that would allow hardware to cripple itself if Vista so chooses it to. But don’t worry, Microsoft is a benevolent god, it only has your best interests in mind! As any large company that has no clue or care who you are does!
Not the sort of power I want to hand over. I paid for it, I should get to choose what I do with it.
Ironic that an OS based on shutting you down if it doesn’t like what you’re doing, an OS that wrests control out of your hands, like some Big Brother, ironic it would be named after wide open spaces (Vista.) Unless theyre just alluding to the fact that “it’s pretty.”
Oh, and as for buying a console for games, try playing Halo on the XBox, and then the version for PC or Mac, there’s no comparing the control you have on a keyboard/mouse with a dinky little joypad. Aiming with something as intuitive as a mouse (it’s called a pointing device afterall!) puts you ten steps ahead of the guy trying to pull his plasma rifle on you with a thumbstick :)
well…the argument here is insignificance, Mac and pc has it’s won strength, for me I like mac, but I got pc on my table too…I use when I work on some “Boring” stuff, but enjoy the mac while I am blogging or presenting.
Again, I think this ad is stupid, and infamous copy, I don’t like it.
that’s about all I have to say.
Funny as hell, add another video but have the penguin come in and own them all.
I wrote and directed the four spots. I enjoyed reading your take on the spots, even the people who didn’t like them.
The spots are not about computers. they’re about the original ads, and the stereotypes they traffic in. I just wanted to point out that there’s two sides to that coin.
btw they were written on my iMac, and cut on a PC, using Sony Vegas, which is outstanding.
Then you did a pretty good job, biftar ;)
Congratulations.
Biftar, my apologies, you obviously put work into these and it shows, I also understand (better now that you’ve mentioned) what you’re trying to get across, but I just don’t “get it.” Either way, thanks for giving us something to fill the our-picks servers with!
What would you rather do make videos or make enough money to pay someone to make videos for you?
No problem. I got a kick out of the back and forth.
Huge point to mention: 5 - 13% of the male population are left handed/right brained. I.E. the genius element (Einstein, Gandhi etc.) and the MAC is representative of that. That’s why many a genius, artist or woman (right brained = creative/yin/feminine/simultaneous global thinker) are attracted to MACs. Left brained = science/logic/power-hierarchal obsession/sequential linear thinking represents the PC. These computers are representative of your intelligence, or its limits. We have 2 Pcs and 2 Macs. We use the MAC for design/internet/work and the PC for games, where many RIGHT BRAINED designers (IE. MAC people) have made the PC look stunning (I.E Halflife). Nuff said. ps. At least ALIENWARE are trying to make the ugly PCs look better. CHOOSE GENIUS AND ARTISTIC SENSIBILITY TODAY! :-)
These videos don’t make fun of Mac’s, but they do make fun of Mac users. Oh. And btw proff is slang.
That’s an awfully large jump you took, ‘many a genius, woman, etc…’. Any actual numbers to back that up? The original Mac ads infuriated PC users because those ads imply the same thing. A computer is a machine, like a car, and doesn’t say anything at all about the user, as much as the user might hope it does.
And all those left hande/right brained types only jumped to Mac because te Amiga went under, due to it being run by right handed/left brained management.
Hmmm… That sounded good until I typed it… That ever happen to you? :)
about every other time I type something. I thought it was funny.
I don’t understand these at all… they imply that you can’t do serious work with a mac.
In under a year I have paid for my MacBook Pro from the consulting jobs performed on it… and no, I’m not a graphic designer or artist. It is an awesome platform for programming.
My Windows XP box only gets used to play a few games here and there… and I could install bootcampl and do that on my MBP too.
Of course you can do serious work on a Mac. Just like you can edit video and music on a PC, which the original spots implied you can’t. We just swapped one stereotype for another. Again, these spots aren’t about computers. They’re a reaction to the original ads.
dgm, that’s the idea, basically. The next step is to analyze the Mac commercials and realize the same thing — that it’s self-aggrandizing and showing PC as the inept black and white 5-ton takes-up-your-entire-basement wood-burning computer it actually is :) Like I’d said though, that’s how I happen to feel about Windows (not PCs) anyway.
In reality, the OS shouldn’t mean a &@^#* thing when it comes to your needs. There’s really nothing you can do on one OS that you can’t on another.. Speed is determined about 60 by the hardware, and about 30-35% by the person/people who wrote the program. The OS should be nothing more than the platter a good program is served on. The reason Windows is good for games? Because game programmers are smarter who’ll work for the larger market share. That’s it. Why is Mac for creative people? I dunno, maybe if you sell a pretty box, it gets looked at by creative, ‘pretty’ people. Mac smugness? Maybe it’s just that person who’s cornered in a room with 19 Windows users who think sheer numbers makes an OS ‘the best?’ I’d rather run a program on a Mac, or on Linux, but that doesn’t mean Windows is a piece of steaming crap to me… Wait a minute…. I forgot about Vista. Ok, Vista is a steaming pile of crap, but XP is fine.
Still waiting on that hovercar….
“I don’t understand these at all… they imply that you can’t do serious work with a mac.”
I dont understand why Mac implys that you can’t do fun things on a PC.
the debate spirals on but to no real detriment to either platform only users with chips on their shoulders. I think its truly a matter of personal preference and comfort. being as that i was “raised” on mac, thats where my trust lies. however, they both have unmistakeable drawbacks and attributes. i own/use both. without a doubt, the mac pro fully loaded is possibly the most impressive machine conceived to date. if anyone here knows anything about pro tools TDM, they would understand just how extraordinary a machine it would have to be to out-perform a pro tools hd system under comparable conditions {this is a fact}. but at no time in the near future could i possibly invision going to Fry’s Electronics to pick up Apple components and assemble a powerful system for less than $500. and lets face facts, both platforms have so many problems. i work in service IT and have dealt with both.
…half the time i say to hell with them both. more frustration that i don’t need.
biftar, I think the deal is that they’re saying you can edit video and music ‘right out of the box.’ Windows Movie Maker (comes with the box) is about as good a video editing tool as a three week old potato clock. Whereas the jolly, red, candy-like iMovie can make little Johnny a director all of a sudden. Go figure!
Sure there’s freeware (Audacity is great for sound editing and the like, for instance,) but again, it’s not supplied with the computer.
People also seem to forget that these are supposed to be the Computers themselves doing the commercial, not the actual user. I’d personally yank the extensions right out of my mother’s hair should she have decided to name me “PC,” for instance.
The Mac commercials are to appeal to those people who buy a computer and that’s it, they don’t go looking for extra software until a computer tech tells them otherwise (with zany results!) You have to pay extra money to get video editing software for PC, so guess what, you can’t do good video and music editing with a “PC.” A “PC” with Adobe Premiere, sure, but not with a “PC.”
And yes, I know when you buy an iMac with the iLife package, you pay extra for it, but it’s not like you get XP for free. And if Windows wanted to shut up Mac, all they have to do is what they usually do. Buy out a video editor software company, absorb it, package it ‘free’ with their computers, driving up the price, and then call it Microsoft’s “Latest Innovation.”
I didn’t get the point of half of them, some were funny, but the lack of originality is just… strange.
Dumb stuff. PC, stop bitchin’ :)
someone aasked earlier about not getting the whole girl thing. The whole point was you are so wierd about your cultish freinds you only spend time with them and don’t know how to interact with females because you are so consumed with figuring out how great your machine is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! weird!!!!!!!!!
Yea I love it! Great stuff, although macs can help movie editors make a lot of money too. Mac just barly came out with running Windows, it took them how long? And now that all these campaigns and people switching over, Mac is going to be big and its going to get viruses and stuff so enjoy having no crashes and viruses for the time.
I bet this website is hosted on a Windows Server box, as well as pretty much the majority of all networks in existance are using Windows Sever, maybe some mac clients lol.
Well lets see..a few things a mac is absolutely horrible at. Gaming, Networking, Business, less software, less hardware, and an operating system, which can be stable, but horrible to use. If you have windows xp, a decent virus detector, and you take care of it you won’t have any problems with your PC. Pcs are easy to upgrade, and easy to work with. Have a greater span of uses other than graphic and music editing. Macs only exist because Microsoft is forced to let them exist since there are monopoly laws.
http://mvpc.ytmnd.com/
lol
@LaWl : Nope, it’s not a Windows Server ;)
It’s Unix.
And not one person goes to bat for Vista :)
Microsoft VISTA Ultimate with Shiny Buttons and 3D Prettiness to Hide the Fact that It’s Trying To Control The Way You Use A Computer And “To @&(! With Morality,” You Bought It And We Choose What You’re Allowed To Do With It Edition has detected a little bit of spinach in your teeth. Failure to take action immediately could result in the crippling of functionality in your webcam. Do you choose to (R)emove it with a finger or maybe a toothpick, (U)pgrade to Vista Unkempt Slob Edition, or (T)urn yourself in for the bootleg copy of Weekend at Bernies III you obviously copied illegally, because really, who would pay for that movie, and shouldn’t he be nothing more than a puddle of glop and a skeleton at this point, and…. errr… Windows VISTA digresses…. Oh, go clean yourself up before I zap you with your own optical mouse.
Fin.
Any similarities, expressed or implied in the making of this posting is purely representational, err, I mean coincidental. Use of the title “Weekend at Bernies III” is without the expressed written consent of Major League Baseball. No spinish was injured in the writing of this post, although I did chip a tooth on the toilet bowl.
Hey guys great stuff. As some said never mentioned PC greatness. Here is one simple one everyone forgets. GAMES! Why would I wait eons to play the newest games on a MAC? Or have to run them through an emulator slowing things down? That alone is best part.
Those MAC ads are so much crap. Go into any data cnter and you will see stacks of blade centers running our administrivia. YOu will see no Apple’s. Now Apple finally started using UNIX and quit mucking wih an attempt at an OS.
Again, the only reason Windows has all the games is because they own the lion’s share of the market. Granted, it’s a great reason to buy an XP system, it’s why I own one, Doesn’t mean Mac is less capable in that department, but I’m with you 100%. Just stay away from Vista and we’ll all be just fine :)
Oh, and by the way, Mac running Windows is at full speed, it’s not an emulator, which is why you find Macs getting viruses now :)
Pointless, kind of like using a PC.
I would definitely prefer to spend the weekend with a blonde than with a computer geek
True, and if the techhies learn anything in tech school, it’s that you get more women buying a cheap Windows machine than a Macintosh. What’s scary is that they actually have tech schools… whole flocks of then running around, bumping into light posts, trying to pick up hotties and having to settle for mating with roughly mailbox-shaped women, wearing humorous t-shirts with statements like “tech geeks do it dirty with SCSI ports, only normal people can’t understand it because it’s written in ancient coptic, and the tech geeks aren’t quite sure about the meaning of the double-entendre “do it.” The way they tease the norms as they walk down the street, yelling things like “Yo I heard your mama can’t do no cross-tabulated spreadsheet!” and “suck mySQL!”
sigh…. good old class of 2002 (holds back a tear)
I’ll get my women the old fashioned way… a hairpiece and a Ferarri.
A lot of folks obviously miss the point of the girl one. It’s not saying that girls like pcs better or are more attracted to pc users. I think it’s making the point that the streotype mac zealot is so obsessed with their mac that they’d rather spend a weekend with another mac fanboy than have a real life.
Well if you’d look at the Mac in that commercial, he’s none too happy about his decision, so the “rather spend…” comment falters a little bit there. Lucky !*&$^@ PC probably has my hovercar, too (See #68, 92, and 145 for that reference, although frankly, I’d just let it go as the ramblings of a madman who never gets to write his own Mac vs. PC commercials.)
Y’know there’s another point. If anyone decides to make a Mac vs. PC commercial (considered a rite of passage into manhood in some tribes near the Amazon basin,) please include more than two people, preferably adding that old guy with a sombrero I mentioned for the Amiga, a midget for D*mn Small Linux or MenuetOS, and an extremely polished turd with lips for Windows Vista. Lips the turd never uses because it’s so busy re-purchasing licenses for all it’s “Premium Content” media.
And while you’re at it, confirm my reservations at the ski resort, there’s a blonde I’d like to present some spreadsheets to…
The whole point of the Apple ads was to get people talking about them …
Guess what? It worked!
Would have been nice to see something about games in this.
Also, the payday, the PC should have suggested to sell his or return his mac. That should last him two or three months rent being as pricey as they are.
lol Good observations, but he can’t sell his Mac because he is the Mac. And I think the commercials aren’t supporting the “PC” as much as it’s lampooning the commercial. I think the title of this article is a little misleading, as this isn’t supposed to attack the Mac so much as the commercial, am I correct on this, Biftar (he wrote/directed these spots.)
They already have many viruses for the Mac, I myself have seen the code for it. And, guess what? IT WORKS! Guess what, Mac users? Now you probably have viruses as well! Besides, if you are a responsible PC user, you will get barely any viruses. I know someone, a Mac user, who is completely reckless while using a PC. He thinks that he can just download anything without viruses! Ha!
I’m not trying to bash Macs here, I just don’t like them. The users think they are so cool because they have a Mac. I mean really, if you are that passionate about your computer, you are definitely not cool. I like some features on Macs, but honestly, I can get all of those for free off the internet. Such as that cool dock you Mac guys have, guess what, I’m on a PC, and there’s one on my screen right now!
Also, I use my computer for everything. I download a lot of things that Mac users can’t because of their OS, and they’re all like, ‘oh it’s okay, because I already have cooler programs than that.’ Oh yeah? What do you guys have cooler than Halo or RPG maker XP?
I have an iPod, yes, and i have a PC yes, not a Zune, an iPod. I like the iPods, and not the Zunes, but guess whats worth more than an iPod? Windows Vista. And guess who has 90% of the computer market? Microsoft. So, who do you think makes more money?
There are so many great features about Windows, so don’t even try to insult it. I could go on and on, but I have better things to do than continue arguing with idiots that will keep trying to defend something that is completely un-defendable. Macs are like PCs retarded older brother.
One of you Mac guys are probably going to respond with the stupidest response ever with no facts to back it up and it will probably be a paragraph at most. Try not to do that, okay Macster?
http://technology.guardian.co.uk/online/security/story/0,,1712275,00.html
Mac virus, guys!
Hmmm, let’s take the Mac side of this. And I’ll restate for the record that I use many OS’es, and I don’t condemn people for using their OS of choice. I also like a user that doesn’t mind using ported functionality, like Mac’s dock or XP’s Start bar. And let me add that I agree with your point that Mac doesn’t have the nearly the scope of games that Windows has, but your choice of Windows games…. Halo is available for the Mac, and it’s smooth as glass, just like the PC.
Not taking a counterpoint yet, mind you, just clarifying.
Also your mention of a friend, “I know someone, a Mac user, who is completely reckless while using a PC. He thinks that he can just download anything without viruses! Ha!” Possible he only acts that way because… Macs don’t get viruses like Windows. They have viruses, just not like Windows. But being in 90% of the home, I guess we can just say viruses are aiming for the same big, shiny target that game producers go for. Why make a game or virus that only affects 5% of the market?
Then again, the Zune player already has a virus and it’s only got what, 2% of the MP3 market?
So maybe market share isn’t the only deciding factor.
Again, not taking a counterpoint yet, just clarifying.
Now. I use Mac, XP, Linux, and a few other OSes that still aren’t at version 1.0 yet. And I will say I prefer Mac’s interface, it’s speed of execution, and it’s look. A look that Vista is creating their own version of (whether it’s copying or not, it’s just good business sense to be as pretty as the competition, afterall.)
My point is that if you like Vista, then you need to know a few things. One. It’s slower than it should be. Does is work fast? With 1-2 GB of RAM, sure, but then, anything runs fast with that much RAM. Mac? You can run OS X off of 128MB, (truthfully, 256MB to make it painless.) This is just to run the OS. Mac can do the same thing with 1/4 of the RAM. This should tell you that Vista should perform a little better. Also, any OS will look gorgeous with a 256MB graphic card, too…
Fast is, to run Vista, you need a pretty high powered machine, and with Macs using Intel processors now, that should tell you that Mac’s OS outperforms Vista on equal machines. At least it tells me that.
Now for the scary part. Vista is the only OS out there (that I’m aware of at least) that will reduce functionality if it feels you could (read that, could. Doesn’t matter if you ever did) use the computer to copy DVDs or CDs.
Even worse, let’s say someone out there makes a hack that allows a person owning a specific video card to reproduce copyrighted materials. If Microsoft finds out about it, and you happen to own that video card, then guess what? Your computer’s next Microsoft update includes telling Vista to ignore your video driver. Hope you enjoy 640×480, or an artificially blurred display, since that could be what you’re stuck at in a worst-case hacking scenario. This would last until your video card company gets around to updating their drivers to block that hack, or you get fed up and buy a new video card. Let’s hope your next tech support call isn’t due to someone in Finland or Kiev whatever city’s on the other side of the world to you, that really wants a copy of “Harry Potter 7: The Septuagenarian Years” in full “Premium Content” color.
This driver updating problem could be tougher than it used to be though, since sending debugging info from your computer to the company that makes your card is now considered a hack risk, so it’s no longer allowed.
Isn’t that great? Now your card company has to guess what’s ailing your computer and fix it near-blindly! This should be interesting, but then, what would Microsoft care at this point? They’re blameless!
You can consider me a “Mac Guy” at this don’t I suppose, Thomas. Note I didn’t say a single bad thing about XP, except that it’s little brother Vista is the retarded little brother, not Mac. But don’t worry, Vista looks good, so he’ll do just fine.
And here’s an article just chock full of fun little facts (well-researched facts, at that) that back my more than one paragraph nicely.)
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html
Oh, and once more, 90% of the market proves nothing. If the majority was always right we’d all be speaking Mandarin right now. Am I calling Mac owners the ‘enlightened few?’ no, but I do think a sales receipt for Vista is a ticket for a one-way ticket to the Silicon Valley equivalent of the dark ages. Stick to XP.
Ahhh, can I have a “take two” on that post? I don’t like that run-on sentence toward the end. And I said “Fast is” when I meant “Fact is.”
And when I said you can consider me a “Mac Guy” at this don’t I suppose? I meant “at this point.”
Biftar, does your copy editor do freelance work? Is your copy editor that blonde? Will she wear a redhead wig while she corrects my spelling errors? Nothing but respect here, but “I likes me some redheads.”
Maybe I should just buy a copy of Office 2007 instead.
why is it I am always bailing out MAC users? Why is it that supposed Windows users are crashing their systems twice a day? I always creatively “out-produce” MAC users, I am always explaining the 101 options I have with my PC that MAC users are oblivious to - because it didn’t come in their stupid iLife bundle. My Windows XP OS NEVER crashes, but my colleague who runs a top of the line MAC Pro has to restart his system REGULARLY due to system instability. To be fair I think he is among MAC users who believe they can push their system to the absolute limit and still efficiently run processes - which honestly seems to be about 90% of all MAC users I’ve met. Bottom line - I avoid working with MAC users because they are absolutely delusional when it comes to computing. I think MACS are fine, I use an older MAC Pro dual G5 with 8 Gig of RAM - the only problem I have is that a PC (windows) with one fast chip and a Gig of RAM performs EXACTLY the same way. Nice try MAC but at the end of the day you’re just pretty PC.
I’m sorry, Joey Bhananas, she’s not a copy editor. She’s not even an actress; she books the studio where we shot the spots.
Your guys PC/Mac slap fight reminds me of people arguing about cars back in the 70’s; MoPar man, no Chev. It’s the argument without end…and we can all use more looooong arguments that settle nothing, no?
Jesus, it’s not the box. It’s the guy using it. A great carpenter is not made by his hammer. He’s a great carpenter no matter what he drives the nails in with.biftar
You know that you can install certain things called OSX on an INTEL based x86 Computer if you look at this website
http://www.osx86project.org/
!!!!
Building your own computer is always cheaper. and Macs just dont really work for being cheap.
The videos have no depth to them and are a poor attemp at trying to make a point.
But isn’t imitation considered the sincerest form of flattery? And painful users come in all flavors, Mac, Windows, Linux… how about the guy that thought has computer’s CD try was a cup holder? Spilled coffee everywhere. Then there was the woman who thought her mouse was a foot pedal. And let’s not forget the guy that tried using his computers built in fax, put his document on the monitor’s screen, but just couldn’t find the send key on his keyboard.
True stories? Hope not. I hope they’re all urban legends. But let’s all agree there are people ‘knocking on the door’ of that level of stup…. errr… let’s call it a more tame ignorance. My point? I have no point, I just like to watch users like that. And god love ‘em, they come in all flavors and OSes.
I have a feeling you’re dealing with newbies. iLife has it’s charms, but some of those tools aren’t exactly for professional use.. Nothing worse than a person who thinks they’re an expert. Now if you’ll excuse me, I have coffee stains to clean up out of my foot pedal.
And biftar, if you’re right, then why does our (the U.S.) buy $1,700 hammers? Our Navy has the best carpenters in the world, and I’m on my lunch break.
Can she wear the wig for me anyway?