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I've been trying desperately to sell my immaculate low mileage Rover 827 for the last 2 months.It's a 96 model f/back and I can't even get £1200 for it.Has anybody else struggled with particular makes in the past,and if you did,what did you do in the end?
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i tried to sell a 90H ford scorpio in early 2002 in immaculate unmolested condition for 750 dropped to 400 after 2 months it finally went for 250 quid.this is a fully loaded luxury car!! this says a lot about the market i think, it doesn't matter what car you have after it's passed it's fifth birthday it rapidly becomes worthless regardless of spec, size or condition.
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....it doesn't matter what car you have after it's passed it's fifth birthday it rapidly becomes worthless regardless of spec, size or condition.
Not strictly true. A 5 year old Fiesta/Polo/Corsa sized car stays fairly firm. A large, fully specced bill waiting for somewhere to happen such as a scorpio or 827 on the other hand.....
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i was speaking metaphroically of course,,
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>metaphroically
Is this some kind of whisky favoured by novelists?
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im having same problem, had clapped out alfa 145 cloverleaf, 94k miles,1996, brought it for £400, spent 2 days on it cleaning it up etc and resold for £2250, had about 20 calls on it.
on the other end of the scale, immaculate bright red 1997 polo, loaded with pioneer cdplayer, expensive clifford alarm, alloys etc, 60k miles, had no calls for it at all, priced £3250.
car market is strange at the mo. with all the deals on new cars, second hand stuff has taken a tumble. if you've got £5k to spend you can get so much, so who would want a 6/7 year old car.
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I think we have all done the 50 mile round trip to look at older cars that don't match the description or are unroadworthy.
Never mind home informaton packs, car information packs with an AA survey would go a long to help sell s/h cars.
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>loaded with pioneer cdplayer, expensive clifford alarm, alloys etc, 60k miles, had no calls for it at all
Expensive extras do not recoup their purchase price or any portion of it. They can only be regarded as differentiators (ie two cars, same standard, same price, same area and maybe the buyer will favour the one with the extras)
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They are requirements. (ie big expensive car needs air, auto, leather or it wont sell. - Still dont recoup the cost tho)
A major differentiator is location. People near big towns with a young foolish rich population - ie london - will sell cars like alfa's at inflated prices easily. Try selling a cloverleaf to an ageing population like eastbourne and you will be in trouble.
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i no what you mean, cd player etc has no value. though its still heartbreaking letting it go at a silly price!
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Try selling a cloverleaf to an ageing population like eastbourne and you will be in trouble.
Actually, the 145 cloverleaf is rare enough, and valued enough by the people who want one that you can generally sell them anywhere - people will be willing to travel to buy them. I know of a lot of examples of this, including myself, I drove about 80 miles each way.
I do agree with your post in general though.
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I'ts all supply and demand- look at the inflated prices 10 year old BMW 3 series achieve. There is a limited demand for 827s and any potential buyers will probably be looking for a Sterling, as Sterlings are so inexpensive why accept less? As Renault Family says a large car will need air con, auto ,leather etc.etc to sell. Derek, I can only assumme your 827 is a reduced spec model which has a limited demand.
Why not put it in HJ's classifieds?
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immaculate bright red 1997polo, loaded with pioneer cdplayer, expensive clifford alarm, alloys etc, 60k miles, had no calls for it at all, priced £3250.
Makes me chuckle. I picked up an immaculate 1997 Alfa 155 last June for £1,450. Had a cam belt change done to be on the safe side, but car has performed brilliantly. Insurance £350, petrol 30mpg.
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>metaphroically Is this some kind of whisky favoured by novelists?
yes i think it was(n't) tinyurl.com/35749
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>> >metaphroically >> >> Is this some kind of whisky favoured by novelists? >> yes i think it was(n't) tinyurl.com/35749
Just off for a nice glass of Laphorig.
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>metaphroically Is this some kind of whisky favoured by novelists?
Sir
It is a drink that can look like whisky but is available on tap normally first thing in the morning. it will not normally cost you anything unless you want to use public facilities.
I hope my explanation help clarify the matter!!
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Chop it in as a PX if your buying at a dealer is one painless option. You won't get a good price but at least it will be out of your hair.
Trying to sell my late dad's 406 and will no doubt have to practically give it away in the end. Absolutely nothing wrong with it but worthless as it's over 5 years old.
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I was given a P reg Citroen Xantia Petrol with a dead engine.
I should have broken it for spares as there are loads of people out there looking for body panels and spares for both petrol and diesel (body panels and trim etc OK for both).
No, like a turkey I fitted an engine in it, spent money on bodywork etc and got £460 on ebay. I was just fed up with the sight of it.
I would have probably got up to £300 for spares when I first got it!
It even beat that Peugeot 104 disaster that Charles will remember so well, only the loss was 3 figures instead of 2.
Think I'll just stick to property.
Hugo
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it. If it is broke, blame someone else!"
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Had to virtually give away a quite decent, but high mileage, Senator 2.6 a few years back. It's replacement, a Rover Sterling, low miles and immaculate, went quickly enough but only cos I "priced it to sell" (i.e. took a BIG hit).
A friend recently scrapped a Saab, OK it was a bit past it's sell by, but was a well kept and tidy car. Couldn't even get £50 for it...
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Try an Alfa 156 instead. I won't mention the 000's I lost on it (between age 4 and 5) as it will make me cry again.
Mattster
Boycott shoddy build and reliability.
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So all these tales of woe indicate that we are now well past the point where good drivable cars outnumber wishful drivers. Why do the factories keep churning them out, knowing that soon they can't be sold at a profit?
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Trying to sell my late dad's 406 and will no doubt have to practically give it away in the end. Absolutely nothing wrong with it but worthless as it's over 5 years old.
See, I keep telling you to get rid of that Astra instead and keep that car!
I know it would cost more to run but you'd save heaps on repair bills on that Astra!!
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Charles : what colour is this 406? Could be of interest to self.
Happy Motoring Phil I
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Sorry Phil I have just finished eating my hat!
Put dad's 406 in the Autotrader last Wednesday via the net. Thursday had a call. Friday night viewing and test drive. Saturday collection.
Job done!
Mother now wants to change her car.....!
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I have a couple of friends trying to sell cars at the mo'.Both have advertised the car with the big two.One had one call the other has had no response at all.The cars in question are 4 wheel drive autos with all the bells and whistles,one priced at £7,995 the other £11,995.Perhaps everyone is up to the limit on their plastic/mortgage top-ups?
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You're all seeing this as a negative: why not see it as an opportunity to get great cars for stuff all cash.
And, out here in the capitalist dog-eat-dog world, supply and demand rules, so a car will only sell for what someone is prepared to pay. A non selling car is either poorly advertised or wrongly priced.
V
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And, out here in the capitalist dog-eat-dog world, supply and demand rules, so a car will only sell for what someone is prepared to pay. A non selling car is either poorly advertised or wrongly priced.
Or badly presented. The next big thing for TV series after everyone's had their houses madeover to sell: CarDoctor! An expert comes around to look at your car with some T-Cut and an industrial size bottle of Back To Black and it sells the next day!
Only kidding (I hope)
Gareth
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> Or badly presented. The next big thing for TV series after
> everyone's had their houses madeover to sell: CarDoctor! An
> expert comes around to look at your car with some T-Cut and an
> industrial size bottle of Back To Black and it sells the next
> day!
Wasn't this at least a third of the programme for "Wrong Car, Right Car" with Jason "Oirish bloke" and Dominic "the bald one"?
"Lets take your heap of a car, and with just a bit of Autoglym and a hoover, you'll get thousands more on the part-ex..."
mike
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You're all seeing this as a negative: why not see it as an opportunity to get great cars for stuff all cash.
Some of the prices being quoted here make these cars pretty much disposable items. At these prices, you could scrap a vehicle everry few months and take much less of a hit on depreciation than buying a newer car -- without ever having to worry about ptotecting your "investment" from theft, damage etc (nowt invested, nowt to lose).
So what's the formula for choosing a bargain car? Any particular models worth looking out for?
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Wouldn't need tax or insurance either. Have a prang just run away! If the Council tow it away just get another.
This is of course just a "joke".
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No joke - This is motoring practised in the uk by a significant number of people
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Before this heads off down the "Hangin's to good for 'em" line, can we make an effort to stay on-topic please? Nothing wrong with what has been posted so far, but I have a feeling of deja-vu with these things....
No Dosh
mailto:Alan_moderator@honestjohn.co.uk
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Moderation by anticipation?
Straight out of "Minority Report" ...
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Hawkeye
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Stranger in a strange land
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All comparisons to Tom Cruise gratefully received.
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No Dosh looks like a well known TV personality. Fact.
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No Dosh looks like a well known TV personality. Fact.
The one on the left or on the right?
news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1280000/images/_1282160_tes...g
Gonna get banned for this.....
Gareth
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All way off the mark so far.
Nice Pic Gareth. Slightly disturbing that you should know where to find it, but nice pic.
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Ahem, motoring please.
ps, try here snipurl.com/58tp
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Richard is off on an extended holiday from this site, but this seems like an opportunity to plug his site:
bangernomics.tripod.com which will tell you exactly how to run a car on no money at all.
I run a beautiful Mercedes estate with 105k that cost me a three figure sum. The 'obvious' alternative would be a company car that would cost me thousands in tax & forfeited salary. There's no choice, is there!
It may very well be only a step away from a big expensive problem, but if so... I'll get a 'new' one just the same, and swap my new tyres etc. over. The old one goes on eBay.
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I run a beautiful Mercedes estate with 105k that cost me a three figure sum. The 'obvious' alternative would be a company car that would cost me thousands in tax & forfeited salary. There's no choice, is there!
Did you ever get to the bottom of the vanishing oil or did you call it a day and find another Merc? I was puzzled when you posted that the car wasn't smoking, as with that consumption I would normally expect to see quite a lot of blue smoke.
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SEP, not my car (pointed out seller's duty under SOGA/Misrepresentations Act, and he found someobdy else who wanted to restore it to sell it to!! and made more profit out of him!!!) I didn't get to the bottom of it. Smoke wasn't really what was coming out; more that if the car was stopped in the same place for 2 minutes with the engine running then there was a patch the size of a dinner plate on the ground where oil droplets had landed.
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But as you correctly point out, at that price, it would have gone on ebay.
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Glad to hear you got that one resolved.
Looking out my window right now, I suspect any car leaking oil would not be on the cyclists and biker's favourite list right now. Looks like central London is about to get rather damp. Handy, as I may just use that as an excuse to divert to the Barrow Boy after work today. :o)
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Thanks to the help of the BR, yes. Sold it back to the bloke for what I paid for it. In fact, I sold it to somebody else whom he'd arranged. Person hadn't seen it; knew it needed major engine work (more than cost of car); and paid more for it to the bloke than I'd paid. Work that one out if you can!
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Work that one out if you can!
I think I can work it out, but I would need to comment on the other bloke and his intellectual abilities in terms that I suspect the mods will object to!
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Going back to the original thread subject,
A mile away from me is a scrapyard that mainly takes cars off the road. The chap doesn't really brake them, but just processes the metal. It's a good place for cheap tyres and batteries though, and he may be pursuaded to part with the odd component on a good day.
The cars that come in to him are increasingly new and less damaged. Once there was a Mistibushi Galant, OK it was quite old, but it had 10 months MOT service history etc and was in fine condition, but just needed a new battery and replacement front pads. For £30 anyone could have got that normally sought after model on the road. The chap who owned it had just decided to get rid once some more money needed spending on it.
It just went straight in the crusher!
The chap who owns the yard changes his car every few months for one that has come it with MOT remaining. Sometimes he doesn't even have to tax it. When the MOT runs out it goes into the yard for processing and he usually has a range to choose from.
Don't know if he still does, but he used to flog them for up to £100 with MOT remaining, and then take them back free of charge when they're done.
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Hard to sell car?
Try a 2000 'W' 406 HDi Rapier with 69,000.
I've had it up privately for £4500 - knowing that top trade part-ex is £4200.
I've even been round the local cab firms seeing if they want it. No. It's been on the side of several main roads with no luck.
I'm going to have to try the local paper!
I've just had an idea. See Classifieds
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Have to say I have some sympathy for you DB.
At £4,500 its a fairish price but not a good price, £4,000 would make it a good price but who are you going to sell it to?
Taxi drivers obviously but if they are not interested who?
£4,500 buys you a hell of a lot of car these days, can't see many private buyers lusting over a 406.
Its 3 1/2 years old and heading for that 5 year cliff.
Think you might have to drop below £4,000 to get rid.
Having cheered everybody up I'm off to bed...
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interview in today's Dly Mail with head of Reg Vardy Group, Sunderland-based which sold £1.75bn of cars in 2003, says it all. One quote from the man: ""It is very different from when I got my first car. Young people buy new cars now, fuelled by the free insurance the makers offer. We can supply insured used cars for £30 a week. The insurance would cost them £30 a week anyway, so they are more or less getting the car for nothing."
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