Match: #3
Message: #20265
Date: Oct 07, 2004
From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <b.nuckolls(at)cox.net>
Subject: Re: Horizontal contactor
Re: Horizontal contactor
The contactor orientation issues came to a boil more than 10 years ago when some airshow performer landing and discovered a trashed starter and chewed up ring gear. Theory was at the time that g-loads during the show teased the contactor shut and welded it. In all likelihood, the performer was concentrating on the task ahead and did not notice that the starter contactor stuck when the engine was started . . . he probably flew the whole event with the starter motor engaged. Let's noodle through how these things work: The battery contactor has a fairly light spring and yeah, one MIGHT be able to tease an OPEN contactor CLOSED with g-loading . . . but we fly with this contactor already engaged. You're NOT going to drive it OPEN with g-loading. Starter contactors have much heavier springs (for the express purpose of driving contacts open even when they may have stuck a little bit). Starter contactors usually mount on the firwall with their axis of operation parallel to waterlines. Not only is the starter contactor relatively immune from effects of g-loading due to much heavier spring, it's mounted in the airplane such that it doesn't experience g-loads due to aero-maneuvers. Consider further that many folks don't have battery boxes. The battery sets in a shallow tray on a horizontal shelf. There are no vertical surfaces upon which one might mount the battery contactor . . . I sure wouldn't build a bracket for the sole purpose of standing the battery contactor up. That puppy lays down on the shelf right beside the battery. Is there an "ideal" mounting position? Perhaps for the battery contactor . . . a vertical mounting with the business end down will have a very small operating benefit. The greater benefit is to gather condensate in the lid away from the contacts. I might even drill a #40 drain hole in the lowest part of the lid. I'll suggest that 99% of the worrying about contactor orientation adds no real value and will at best influence service life by perhaps +/- ten percent. Since we're designing failure tolerant systems from the get-go, I wouldn't loose any sleep over contactor service life. Bob . . . > > >In a message dated 10/7/2004 1:27:40 PM Central Standard Time, >mick-matronics(at)rv8.ch writes: > >Hi Bob, > >You may want to update the B&C guys on this issue, >since I asked them this question a couple of hours >ago, and they said that I should mount the contactor >vertically. > >I didn't like the answer, so I searched through the >archives, and found this Q&A. I'm happy to hear >they don't have to be vertical! > >Mickey > > >Good Afternoon Mickey, > >For What It Is Worth. I had an Essex 8449 contactor in service for about >twelve years that I had mounted with the coil horizontal. It started >to become >intermittent. I contacted the manufacturer and asked about the old mounting >rumor. I was told that it should have been mounted with the coil vertical >and the business end down. I switched to that when I replaced the contactor >about three years ago. So far so good, but who knows for real? > >I had about two thousand hours of flight time with the coil horizontal. > >Happy Skies, > >Old Bob >AKA >Bob Siegfried >Ancient Aviator >Stearman N3977A >Brookeridge Airpark LL22 >Downers Grove, IL 60516 >630 985-8502 > > >--- Bob . . . -------------------------------------------------------- < Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition > < of man. Advances which permit this norm to be > < exceeded -- here and there, now and then -- are the > < work of an extremely small minority, frequently > < despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed > < by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny > < minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes > < happens) is driven out of a society, the people > < then slip back into abject poverty. > < > < This is known as "bad luck". > < -Lazarus Long- > <------------------------------------------------------> http://www.aeroelectric.com ---
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