FAA says: see a UFO, call Robert Bigelow

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FAA says: see a UFO, call Robert Bigelow

Postby professorpan » Wed Dec 23, 2009 4:35 pm

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Postby Nordic » Wed Dec 23, 2009 4:55 pm

Wow. One thinks of James Bond villains.

Does he own a white cat that sits in his lap?
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Postby Jeff » Wed Dec 23, 2009 5:03 pm

Bigelow Aerospace owns Skinwalker Ranch.

Interesting development, pp. I imagine "official" study of high weirdness has been outsourced for quite a while.
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Re: FAA says: see a UFO, call Robert Bigelow

Postby hanshan » Wed Dec 23, 2009 5:04 pm

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professorpan wrote:This is very, very interesting:

http://gizmodo.com/5430338/faa-issues-o ... -sightings


Re: FAA says: see a UFO, call Robert Bigelow

would sooner call the devil hisself


will check out the article

tx prof


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Postby Nordic » Wed Dec 23, 2009 5:12 pm

Jeff wrote:Bigelow Aerospace owns Skinwalker Ranch.

Interesting development, pp. I imagine "official" study of high weirdness has been outsourced for quite a while.


Wow, Jeff!

This emoticon's eyes aren't quite wide ENOUGH:


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Postby Hammer of Los » Wed Dec 23, 2009 6:27 pm

Bigelow's always been known for government connections.

Jacque Valee worked with him, didn't he, at NIDS.
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Postby Wombaticus Rex » Thu Dec 24, 2009 12:18 pm

I am under the impression Vallee is very much still on the payroll.

Fascinating. I wish those self-satisfied bastards would go public with, oh, any of the evidence they collected in the past 20 years.

SR: On those connections – you were a member of the scientific advisory board for the National Institute of Discovery Science during the investigation of the so-called ‘Skinwalker Ranch’. The recent book by George Knapp and Colm Kelleher on this investigation featured a great deal of anecdotal evidence for anomalous craft, strange beings and poltergeist-like phenomenon. From your point of view, do you feel this investigation was a success, and were there any aspects that were of particular interest to you?

JV: I am still a member of that Board, now restructured under Bigelow Aerospace, so I feel bound by the non-disclosure agreement I signed.

source link: http://www.dailygrail.com/node/3252


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bigelow

Also very interesting is their "Space Habitat" research, Genesis I and Genesis II. I'm amazed how often people don't know about those when I bring them up: people who are enthusiastic about space travel/colonization and don't realize there's a major private effort already underway and in orbit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_I

To me, the most significant lines in the article Re:Bigelow's UFO Hotline were these here:

BAASS is headquartered in Las Vegas, Nevada. We are seeking experienced scientists to join our research teams. If you are an inquisitive outside of the circle thinker, who is detail oriented and who is looking for a challenge, this is a unique and exciting opportunity to advance your career and to be a part of cutting edge research.

A Masters or PhD in a relevant field is a plus. [b]Candidates must qualify for secret and top secret clearances and must be willing to submit to a thorough background check.[/b[

For all positions, some travel - both nationally and internationally - may be required.
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Postby Wombaticus Rex » Thu Dec 24, 2009 4:05 pm

Via Jeff's "Bad Medicine, Part 2"

There does appear to be a thread in need of untangling which connects the US military, high weirdness and Native American tradition and land, particularly sacred sites. The San Luis Valley of Colorado for instance, where Maurice Strong and his then wife built their "Valley Of the Refuge Of World Truths," is a holy place for many indigenous nations, including the Navajo. There's Indio's Cabazon Indian Reservation, notorious for Casolaro's Octopus and now also the trial of Richard Hamlin. (Hamlin's father-in-law Sidney Siemer, whom he accuses of ritually abusing his wife Susan, "freely admits" having worked there in the 1980s during the time of Wackenhut and PROMIS. Before she recanted her testimony, Susan claimed to remember her father subjecting her to mind control torture in an Indio warehouse.)
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Postby Blue » Thu Dec 24, 2009 4:37 pm

Cute little alien logo on the home page of his aerospace site.

For being so wealthy his site is pretty crappy looking and what's with the Games section?

http://www.bigelowaerospace.com/

Edited to add this weirdness about BAASS from the "Careers" page.

Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS), a sister company to Bigelow Aerospace, is a newly formed research organization that focuses on the identification, evaluation, and acquisition of novel and emerging future technologies worldwide as they specifically relate to spacecraft. BAASS is headquartered in Las Vegas, Nevada. We are seeking experienced scientists to join our research teams. If you are an inquisitive outside of the circle thinker, who is detail oriented and who is looking for a challenge, this is a unique and exciting opportunity to advance your career and to be a part of cutting edge research.

Numerous positions are available in various fields


Impressive candidates will need to have 10 or more years of research and hands on experience in the disciplines related to aerospace sciences, specifically including:

* Astrophysics
* Biochemistry
* Microbiology
* Nanotechnologies
* Physics
* Propulsion
* Stealth Technologies
* The Engineering Disciplines

If they're working on "novel and emerging future tech" how could anyone have 10 or more years experience, hmm? I didn't think real nanotech "hands on experience" had been around that long.

Wonder what the jobs pay?
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Postby Wombaticus Rex » Thu Dec 24, 2009 4:47 pm

Blue wrote:If they're working on "novel and emerging future tech" how could anyone have 10 or more years experience, hmm? I didn't think real nanotech "hands on experience" had been around that long.


A clever point, but it's so that you'll have the background knowledge to interpret what you're dealing with.

Whether that's a paradigm most people don't know about yet, or actual ET artifacts to reverse engineer, or just some hog-wild, sweet-ass Boening Skunk Works technology under a new hangar....who knows.

Then again, McLuhan had great points on the value and necessity of fresh minds. I'll try and find those quotes.
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Postby Blue » Thu Dec 24, 2009 4:57 pm

Yep, you're right. It sure looks like he has a lot of job openings although very specific in nature and by requiring the security clearance/background check it seems to narrow it down to military types.
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Re: FAA says: see a UFO, call Robert Bigelow

Postby barracuda » Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:59 am

Okay, I know it's American Chronicle, but also check out the New York Times article referenced in the article below.

    Bigelow Aerospace, lethal extraterrestrial UFOs, and alien battle tales revealed


    Dr. Jack Sarfatti, the maverick San Francisco physicist, relates a story he was told about a battle with the aliens.

    (STARpod.org) -- It sounds like a Hollywood plot for a 21st century remake of Earth versus the Flying Saucers.

    San Francisco physicist Dr. Jack Sarfatti claims to have heard the rumor while visiting London in 2004, while in the company of Nick Cook, the well known aerospace journalist from the private intelligence publisher Janes Information Group.

    "I was asked by the 'CIA' not to pursue the story in 2004, but now Bigelow has (allegedly, it seems) opened Pandora's Box on the story."

    Sarfatti came forward with the rumor following a remark made by billionaire space maven Bob Bigelow to the New York Times about the dangers of UFOs:

    "People have been killed. People have been hurt. It´s more than observational kind of data."

    The New York Times had interviewed Bigelow about his recent efforts to build a private space station. In the article, Bigelow was quoted about the lethality of the UFO phenomena, but the basis for Bigelow's statement was not pursued.

    According to Sarfatti, the rumor of a battle between Bob Bigelow's employees and otherworldly beings was provided by a mysterious French woman, who was accompanied by a body guard carrying a mystery briefcase allegedly containing "some kind of 'psychotronic' weapon based on alien ET technology."

    Sarfatti says the woman claimed to be part of a semi-secret Paris UFO group, and the woman attributed the story to Jacques Vallee, the internationally famous researcher who inspired the French UFO researcher Claude Lacombe in Steven Spielberg's classic UFO film Close Encounters of the Third Kind.

    Sarfatti quickly added, "Allegedly Jacques Vallee denies the story, but now Bob Bigelow seems to have gone public with it -- albeit without the details."

    Apparently Sarfatti, who in recent years has consulted to Dr. Ron Pandolfi (for the Office of the Director of National Intelligence) on speculative ideas related to reverse engineering hypothetical extraterrestrial technologies, also knows more of this rumor than he is willing to make public.

    "I am not divulging details only the general nature of the remarks. In any case Nick Cook heard them also."

    In the 1990s, Bob Bigelow funded UFO investigations under a group he founded called the National Institute of Discovery Sciences, also known as NIDS.

    Among the many investigations conducted by NIDS was the mysterious case of the so-called Bigelow Skinwalker Ranch in a remote region of Utah, where a variety of paranormal phenomena had been reported.


    One experience made public by former NIDS personnel was the report of a nearly invisible being emerging from a tunnel that appeared to float in thin air, which led to speculation of an opening from another world -- a star gate -- built from a spacetime wormhole.

    According to Sarfatti's account, the French woman "claimed an actual gun battle at Bigelow Ranch with Bob's paramilitary against aliens out of the wormhole with dead and wounded humans. She was very convincing and Nick Cook heard the strange tale at his private London Club with me and another witness. I debriefed Kit Green and Ron Pandolfi soon after and the story caused a big stir."

    Pandolfi and Green are well known for their interest in unusual phenomena and their history of employment with the CIA.

    Given the many reports of pilots who have lost their lives pursuing UFOs beyond the safe operating range of their aircraft, Bigelow's comments to the New York Times may have a more mundane explanation.

    Until Mr. Bigelow comes forward with a more detailed explanation for his comments about lethal UFO encounters, Sarfatti's expose' of the rumor will only further inflame allegations of a cover-up among the fringe elements of the UFO community.

    Update: Following the release of the original version of this article, Jack Sarfatti issued his own release in which he states:

    "Bob Bigelow is like Howard Hughes. He has his own private satellite and has funded UFO research. He owns a Utah Ranch where it is alleged that ETs pop out of Star Gates and have had battles with Bigelow's armed staff. We do not know if these rumors are true, but Bigelow's alleged recent remarks to the New York Times seem to support the rumor...We are not claiming the story reported by Bekkum here is true, only that it is very strange and Bekkum does accurately report what I was told in London in late March of 2004 in the same room with Nick Cook."

    Sarfatti also confirmed that his reference to "CIA" was actually a reference to Pandolfi and Green. The association and past employment of Pandolfi and Green to the CIA has been reported by the mainstream media, including the New York Times, The Washington Post, and PBS.
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Re: FAA says: see a UFO, call Robert Bigelow

Postby elfismiles » Mon Jun 14, 2010 1:15 am

Thanks for this link Cuda.

I think the bolded part is the most important.

Though the bit referencing Vallee and psychotronic devices also warrants further digging.

barracuda wrote:Okay, I know it's American Chronicle, but also check out the New York Times article referenced in the article below.



Given the many reports of pilots who have lost their lives pursuing UFOs beyond the safe operating range of their aircraft, Bigelow's comments to the New York Times may have a more mundane explanation.

Until Mr. Bigelow comes forward with a more detailed explanation for his comments about lethal UFO encounters, Sarfatti's expose' of the rumor will only further inflame allegations of a cover-up among the fringe elements of the UFO community.

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Re: FAA says: see a UFO, call Robert Bigelow

Postby barracuda » Mon Jun 14, 2010 1:31 am

It does seem odd that you can say something like that in the New York Times and be met with utter incuriosity by your interviewer. Well, maybe not that odd. And I realise that may not be entirely what actually happened, because you know, basically, anything may have - a further inquiry cut out by an editor, an off the record comment by Bigelow... we just don't know. But Scarfatti's Vallee attribution here is too good to resist, even from Am Chron.
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Re: FAA says: see a UFO, call Robert Bigelow

Postby Nordic » Mon Jun 14, 2010 2:17 am

Skinwalker Ranch, huh?


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